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  1. Colt threw more INT’s as sophomore than Quinn may throw his entire career. Colt couldn’t beat Aggy or k-state consistently to save his fucking life. His deep ball was awful. He was just a gamer tho, will to win like no other but he was not some transcendent qb that college football drools over. He’s a legend at Texas but most of college football has forgotten him already. If Quinn played all 4 years here under Sark he would leave with every record possible and a couple heisman visits. I say all that to agree with you and disagree with Derka lol.
  2. Colt was literally the most accurate passer in football history when he played. His 2008 completion percentage was 76.7%. That is fucking nuts. He connected on more than 3/4 of his pass attempts. And his passes were on the numbers in stride, that dude could fucking sling it. I guess my point is that comparing Quinn Ewers to Colt is as silly as comparing Sam Ehlinger to Vince Young. Colt wasn't just good, he was one of the single best players in college football history. That he didn't win a heisman is a fucking travesty. It's not like Colt was merely good. Colt McCoy was all-time great.
  3. Well, I'm okay with the hate as well. Either way, but then again, a lot of people hate the Cowboys, so how did they become America's team? They had some unique qualities that we might just see in UT as it rises from obscurity - starting with a couple of pretty cool QBs. Throw in a Heisman candidate RB (there'll be one), a great TE, a few beasts on the Defense - a team coming from one of the coolest cities in America, a mascot, colors, logos that just aren't the same old same old - and a team that retains some of the American flyover country aura... then comes the dynasty... and voila - America's Team II. There's probably a better name for it - that too is on the way. Put on your thinking caps. Well, I'm okay with the hate as well. Either way, but then again, a lot of people hate the Cowboys, so how did they become America's team? They had some unique qualities that we might just see in UT as it rises from obscurity - starting with a couple of pretty cool QBs. Throw in a Heisman candidate RB (there'll be one), a great TE, a few beasts on the Defense - a team coming from one of the coolest cities in America, a mascot, colors, logos that just aren't the same old same old - and a team that retains some of the American flyover country aura... then comes the dynasty... and voila - America's Team II. There's probably a better name for it - that too is on the way. Put on your thinking caps. Well, I'm okay with the hate as well. Either way, but then again, a lot of people hate the Cowboys, so how did they become America's team? They had some unique qualities that we might just see in UT as it rises from obscurity - starting with a couple of pretty cool QBs. Throw in a Heisman candidate RB (there'll be one), a great TE, a few beasts on the Defense - a team coming from one of the coolest cities in America, a mascot, colors, logos that just aren't the same old same old - and a team that retains some of the American flyover country aura... then comes the dynasty... and voila - America's Team II. There's probably a better name for it - that too is on the way. Put on your thinking caps.
  4. Ewers is about to unleash his true potential this season. He'll be in NY by the time the Heisman rolls around. I want to believe Carson Beck is really good, but I just can't. He had arguably the best TE with WR speed in the country that he leaned on. It'll be interesting to see what he does now. Their RB isn't anything special, and they can't just rely on Etienne, he's not a 3 down back. I agree with Gerry they're losing at the very least 1 game this season, and it will be to us. Not to mention their other RB just came back from a broken kneecap, which is dangerous. They've fallen hard in the RB room for the last 4-5 years.
  5. what at all have you seen from QE that leads you to believe he’s an NFL qb? he’s not even a particularly notable college qb despite being surrounded by elite talent and elite QB coaching. he’s also making the same mistakes and showing the same poor mechanics as he was last year, despite being coached by the best QB coach in the country. in an era where freshman QBs win heisman trophies and put up obscene numbers while playing spectacularly, QE being a 3rd year guy who isn’t in the top 50% of best players in his own offense does not portend well for his future as an NFL qb.
  6. just because the QB gets assigned the win and the loss doesn’t mean he won or lost the game. i’m struggling to remember a single Texas game ever where QE was the most consequential player in leading us to victory, something VY and Colt did regularly. VY and Colt were the best and most impactful players on their teams. as i’ve just said, QE is a borderline top 10 player on this team. he is not the one leading us to victory week in and week out. with what? are you saying he deserves to be a heisman candidate simply because the QB of a good team, even though he’s nowhere near the best or most impactful player on his own team?
  7. it continues to absolutely baffle me that people keep bringing up sam ehlinger's freshman struggles with the framing of, "hey Sam struggled as a freshman and look what he became!" he became Major Applewhite if Major went to Westlake HS. stop acting like he was Colt McCoy, and definitely stop it with the, "we've never had anyone like him! maybe VY?" nonsense. god this fan base is delusional when it comes to that kid. he was a good-not-great qb with moxie who went 28-16 at Texas. quit talking about him like he was a two time all american, heisman winner who's just waiting for his statue to be built.
  8. What horse shit mental gymnastics. Can’t compare colts sophomore year because he was hurt the year before, but Ewers playing through an injury in the year he is hurt and he is who he is. Colt lost his NFL line but Ewers has one? (I disagree with the amount of bitching about or OL, but that’s an another thread. People were calling for colt to be replaced his sophomore year. Probably the same morons like you shiting on Ewers now. Ewers had made tremendous improvement. He has injury issues. If he comes back a third year and stays healthy he’ll be a heisman candidate. He was already being discussed before his injury. ewers colt
  9. i apologize, but i’m failing to understand the point of the posts directed at me that are mentioning other unanimous no.1 recruits. tim tebow, adrian peterson, jadaveon clowney, trevor lawrence, etc etc. i’m genuinely asking, because i don’t understand what point y’all are trying to make. all of those guys were far better college football players than QE has been which only supports the point i’ve been making, specifically that QE’s hype- the fan expectations, the heisman talk, the projected first round draft grade, etc- are a product of his HS rankings (and the fact that he has arm talent) and not based on his actual body of work as a college QB.
  10. I was only considering collegiate production. In Vince, then Colt, we had two of the best back-to-back starting quarterbacks in the history of college football. One should've won the Heisman and the other was in the top three in back-to-back seasons. Yes, I know we had a couple of years while Colt matured into the juggernaut he was in 2008 and 2009 but let's be honest, if he hadn't gotten hurt his freshman year, the Longhorns would've won the Big 12 title and gone into the bowl season with just the one loss to Ohio State. OU went from Baker Mayfield to Kyler Murray to Jalen Hurts, then Spencer Rattler before Caleb Williams, which is pretty remarkable. I'm sure there are other examples but I'm having a hard time coming up with them.
  11. Since getting back from injury in the RRS last year Quinn has now played a full season + bowl worth of games and is 10-3 while throwing for 3176/23/6 and adding another 6 TDs on the ground. If he keeps up his current rate this season and we reach the CCG he will finish around 3530/26/3 with 13 TDs on the ground. I am assuming the rushing TDs trend doesn't hold so it will likely get to 30+ TDs in the air and ~7 on the ground. Unless USC stumbles multiple times in the regular season the Heisman will belong to Caleb Williams again. Can Quinn get to NYC with a Big 12 title, 3500 yards and ~40 TDs, and 11+ wins?
  12. Y'all in here really bitching about Quinn coming back? Really? I've seen a lot of dumb shit on this board but this is way, waaaaay up there. Ewers was good this year. Not perfect, but he improved dramatically from 2022. He's going to continue to improve and be great next year. He has legitimate Heisman potential. Manning isn't going anywhere. He will be QB2 and continue to learn and improve. Even if there were going to be an off season QB competition - and there won't be - he would not take Quinn's spot. The staff does not have a schedule for these guys that does not take into account variability. Guys get hurt, guys transfer, guys have developmental delays. The staff has shown they know how to handle it so maybe don't worry so fucking much. Goddamn guys.
  13. Calmer than you are dude. It’s a bad argument if you can’t call a guy who finishes in the top 5 as a Heisman and goes high in the draft after going something like 30-6 in games he starts and finishes as a starter a longhorn legend. Because that’s where Quinn is going to finish up. go read my Sark thread from last year. Or my Milroe comment from Tuscaloosa. And know that my Ewers comment is going to be as prophetic as that. he played fine as a basically true freshman. He’s playing really good as a sophomore this year. Same progression and he’s going to be awesome next year. Anyone expecting more out of him at this stage in his career was doing it wrong. I posted- something like 50 pages ago, all the numbers for true freshman QB’s that won a Heisman and they were uniformly garbage. Quinns were better than them all. I guess you can argue he wasn’t a true freshman but I’d say starting in August after camp was 2 weeks old at Ohio state and transferring to Texas and playing in his first year in the program made him closer to a true freshman than a redshirt freshman, but it would probably be fair to split the difference. regardless, there’s nothing surprising about him getting a ton better between last year and this year and there will be nothing surprising about him making a big leap next year. A big leap for him means we go 10-2- he wins hardware and he goes top 5 in the draft. And that’s all longhorn legend territory.
  14. absolutely i will. the heisman thing i can see happening because it’s a bullshit award and we should be very very good next year, not to mention that Sark is going to get every ounce of production that he can out of QE. do i think QE will be one of the 3-4 best players in the country next year? no i do not. i hope he’s top 4 on his own team. as of today do i project him to have a successful career in the nfl? again, no i do not. not even a little bit. nfl QB is the hardest job in sports, and QE is so, so far removed from having mastered his own college position and craft that i do not see him having any sort of successful nfl career, barring major improvemt in the offseason/next year.
  15. tons of reasons for Quinn to stay and why his draft stock isn't higher. he's behind a stacked class of upperclassmen that is more crowded than usual due to covid extra years (Penix, Nix), pro-style versus dual-threat types like CW and DM, NIL deals, durability, Quinn needs one full season without injury (he finally learned to slide), he's just 20 years old, unfinished business, improve mechanics. but to say he's not a stellar college quarterback is just dumb. if he improves next year like you would expect he will be a heisman front runner and put texas in the playoffs with a solid chance to make a deep run to a championship . now if he doesn't improve like that then we can revisit the difference between a stellar QB and a game manager.
  16. What a shock an idiot fan that posts on OB. Shocked I tell ya. I’m also veeeerrrrryy shocked Quinn is going through growing pains as a true freshman. SHOCKED!!! Who could have seen this coming? I do like that he seems to be taking some personal responsibility and looking at how to correct his accuracy issues. He’s just not seeing the field very well right now. He is definitely not getting much help from his oline and especially his receivers. I’m reminded why everyone in the country wanted him when he flashes just how good he can be but when he has setbacks the expert “fans” lose their shit. It’s frustrating for sure but not in the least because bit surprising. If they win the last two games and the bowl game these same dipshit expert fans will claim him the frontrunner for the Heisman Trophy for next year. Everything is zero sum.
  17. Ok, now I can finally talk. Sark mentioned to me last week that the offense will be two QB sets running, about 85 to 92% of the time, what he called "my super special trick-aroni TD play," -- snap to Ewers, backfield toss to Arch who throws it back to Ewers for the TD. In a first ever they're awarded a dual Heisman due to "exceptional kick-assery" before defeating Georgia in the national championship, 136 to 9. A slight disappointment from the regular season 294 to 3 game but nevertheless fairly satisfying for most UT fans. Then Ewers goes pro. Arch takes over. Horns go undefeated next two seasons, rinse and repeat. He said he didn't care if I spilled the beans here, as long as it was after the Ewers announcement. "Just let them all know this is all part of my master plan so that they'll shut the fuck up already. Thanks bruh."
  18. It saddens me not only that there are so many stupid people...but that they choose to display their stupidity so publicly. Quinn is QB1. He's a RS-Soph returning as the Heisman frontrunner who had a season stat line of 272 of 394 for 69.0%, 3,479 yards, an 8.8 ypc, with 22 TD against 6 INT and a 158.6 passer rating, but, more importantly, a 12-1 regular season with a Big 12 championship and 0:01 and one misread pass away from playing for a national championship in a game where the other team had a nearly perfect outing until the very end of the 4th quarter. If you want Arch over Quinn for next season right now, you probably still think John Chiles should starts and VY should be moved to WR. Kindly go fuck your own faces so you can stop the noise pollution coming from your own mouths but, in any event, pretty please with sugar on top, shut the fuck up.
  19. I’m not disagreeing with you at all. I do think QBs need time. With that said, - Trevor Lawrence: supplanted Kelly Bryant in his 2nd game as a true freshman and led his team to a national championship during his college career. - Bryce Young: looks like a future NFL star and Heisman winner. Has looked this way since day 1 of his RS freshman year. - Tua: beats out Jalen Hurts and out plays him his freshman year. - Caleb Williams: beats out Spencer Rattler his RS freshman year. Rattler may be a douche but he’s going to get drafted. Quinn in his RS freshman year looked worse than Hudson Card most of the year and I don’t think very highly of Card’s ability… I do think Quinn is talented and can be a good P5 starter and game manager. I do not think Quinn is the 5 star generational talent we thought he was. Those guys show it early on.
  20. QE came from a bit of money already and is cashing in quite nicely. This is not a kid from an impoverished background so “don’t judge him for being all ‘show me the money’” type of deal. I don’t judge anyone for wanting to make money. Good for them! Make as much as they can for as long as they can. If Quinn stays he has a chance for a Heisman and perhaps be an overall top pick. that is not happening for him this year. Gets one more year with Sark to work on things and bulk up more. Most good HCs have said (bc I read and watch the draft) they don’t like it when a QB leaves early. Period. Quinn can do what he wants but I think he’s getting bad advice to leave this year. If that’s what he’s being told. That’s my opinion. If you think different, great! You’re entitled to your opinion. Ofcourse if QBs just want to avoid Chicago this might be the year to go pro. I don’t see how Caleb sidesteps a lot of the shitty shitty teams no matter what his dad says or thinks.
  21. My little brother stuck around for seven years and changed majors a dozen times and this is the reason why. Only other places I've seen with consistently equivalent talent: Tceh and Texas State. Back on topic, 10 rookie QBs started this season in the NFL, a new record. The previous record was just four years ago (Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones, Dwayne Haskins, Gardner Minshew, Drew Lock, Devlin Hodges, Will Grier, Ryan Finley, and David Blough). You couldn't pick some of those guys out of a lineup if the other people in the lineup were all dressed as team mascots, and at least four of those guys, and maybe six, had nothing like the arm Quinn has. If people think Quinn isn't getting drafted...what the fuck are you smoking and did you buy it legally? If it's me, I'm thinking my contract could be $9-$12 million now and there's no telling whether I get tossed into the fire rookie season and I'm out of the league due to another injury, or I could stick around, maybe win a Heisman behind the best OL in college, make another seven figures in NIL money, have my career insured by Lloyd's, and my first contract could be $33-$35 million...among the other, ahem, perks.
  22. Alabama team passer rating by year, OC, and starting QB(s) 2014 - Kiffin - Sims (SR) - 156 2015 - Kiffin - Coker (SR) - 144 2016 - Kiffin - Hurts (FR) - 143 2017 - Locksley - Hurts (SO) / Tagovailoa (FR) - 156 2018 - Locksley - Tagovailoa (SO) / Hurts (JR) - 197 2019 - Sarkisian - Tagovailoa (JR) / Jones (SO) - 200 2020 - Sarkisian - Jones (JR) - 191 2021 - O'Brien - Young (SO) - 167 2022 - O'Brien - Young (JR) - 150 First, damn that's one hell of a stretch of good QBs. Outside Lincoln Riley, those team passer ratings in Locksley's last year and Sark's 2 years would have been the best ever 3 year stretch in FBS history. Probably, not sure how to look that up. It's hard to call a Heisman year a drop-off, but based on passer ratings, Young's 2021 season was a step down. And judging by the dropoff from last year to this year, largely enabled by 2 first day draft picks at WR. Sark had similar (better?) talent at WR but his teams were a lot more efficient passing the ball. Sark + non-freshman QB looks like a good combo. Ewers is painful to watch this year but looking forward to the combination of Sark and sophomore Ewers.
  23. the reason: Texas fans. i remember when quinn committed how all of my friends who follow recruiting were basically acting like we’d just signed tom brady, when in fact we’d simply gotten a verbal commit from some doughy, goofy looking 26 year old kid from SLC. from the day he verbally committed to Texas our fans talked about him the way beano cook talked about ron pawlus. it was as if quinn’s commitment was a guarantee of heisman trophies and national titles. our fans never learn. nope, no matter how many 5*, can’t-miss studs we sign who flame out, or how many underrated 3* guys become AA’s and award winners, our fans will always cling to the next big commit as if VY is walking back through that door. and once that happens, it’s just easier for all of them to completely ignore reality/anything negative, lest their world view be shattered. easier to just keep deluding yourself than to admit that you got all of your hopes up only to be let down again (never mind that your irrationally high hopes are to blame for your disappointment much more so than QE and/or Sark).
  24. oh look, another lazy take, bereft of substance, full of platitudes and an air of smugness. "geez guys, he's a freshman, he's obviously going to become a really qb eventually, and freshman qbs all suck and struggle their first year anyways. gah guys, it's like everyone has forgotten what we knew back in normal times." lol indeed. first off, quinn is terrible. he is so far away from being a big xii level QB it's scary. he needs so much improvement in so many areas that i won't be surprised to see Sark go find a new starter in the portal this offseason, if only to allow Arch to redshirt. Quinn isn't just having some trouble adjusting as a freshman, he is nowhere near qualified in any way to be the QB at Texas. second, we ain't "back in normal times" anymore. been that way for awhile now. this isn't 1998. freshmen have been able to be good at QB for some time now. i'll remind you again that at this exact same stage in his career that colt mccoy was in second place in the rocky mountain news heisman poll. that was 16 years ago. not only have there been plenty of great freshman QBs since then, there have been about a million freshman QBs who were better than quinn ewers. this isn't about him being young and going through growing pains, this is about a guy who is straight up not good enough to play for Texas. not even remotely close.
  25. i remember when QE first committed to Texas. it was years ago, and iirc it was during/after his sophomore year at SLC. i don't follow recruiting at all, but i vividly remember how everyone was just dreaming themselves over the commitment. this kid was the next great HOF QB, can't-miss prospect, generational talent, gonna-win-three-heismans guy, and Texas fans should start making plans for the playoffs every year. it was as if God had come down from heaven and impregnated a virgin with the Jesus Christ of college football in her belly. now here we are today, after this guy had a redshirt year and then transferred to Texas where we supposedly have the QB Whisperer, and The Chosen One has about a thousand obvious holes in his game and is wrapping up an underwhelming debut season where he was downright awful for entire games, and suddenly it's unfair to hold him to a higher standard than anyone else. suddenly we're comparing him to freshman Sam Ehlinger, as if QE having a similar freshman season to the one sam had is some great success. that makes sense to y'all? yeah. i think football fans just might be too fanatical for me to ever understand. you prop a guy up to be the greatest thing ever, and then when he's bad you get all angry and defensive about people who are critical of him. you can't have it both ways.
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