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  1. Great, where do you put him? How high and why? I have no idea where he lands for me yet. I literally never seen him play until I watched two big plays on YouTube today. Hard to rank something you wen't alive to see. When I was watching football early in my life it wasn't like there was a YouTube to go pull up the film. You read about it, if that. The people commenting that I am wrong didn't watch it either. I only know what I know and what I see. I see stats that outside of wins are terrible in comparison to what we have been used to since Texas ditched the wishbone. My top 4 right now is 1. VY 2. COLT 3. QUINN 4. SAM
  2. No, I'm not. I just have a difference of opinion. Not that it belongs in this thread to begin with. What is the fucking criteria? There isn't any, it is all subjective thereby it is just fucking opinion. I have mine, you have yours thereby I'm wrong because you own the place. No need to be a dick. So, it doesn't matter what the stats are? How do we choose who is the greatest, who belongs on that list? Is it favorite number? You can't say, no one is saying. Vince IMHO was the greatest, why, because he put the team on his back and did whatever was needed to win. Colt was second as he eventually did the same thing until he got injured. I didn't watch Street play and neither did you so all I have to go by are statistics. Those don't look very good outside of wins. That includes running the football. All that being said it isn't fair to compare them because it is different eras that had completely different expectations for QB play. James Street was never asked to go dominate the other teams defense and win a football game. he was never asked to show the ball 40 times and run it 15 in one game. It just isn't a fair comparison and you know it. I already said pre-modern football he was the greatest QB in longhorn nation. What else is it you want me to concede? I can't in good faith say overall he is high on that list and I'm not sure many other people are either. If I have to include him based on football that I have watched in my lifetime with what I know about how the game is currently played, he is behind a number of QBs. Quinn being one of them.
  3. Keep in mind we played Georgia to OT and they absolutely had help from the refs. Give ASU some credit here too, because their coaches had three weeks to prepare and scouted us to perfection. Likewise, it wasn't just Skattebo that made life difficult. Leavitt is one hell of a QB that people understimated. Indeed, I see most here on this board still talking about Skattebo and few mentioning Leavitt's contribution to that game. They don't make it happen without him. It takes a tremendous amount of defensive energy to stay on top of a QB as slippery and twitchy as he is. He is more evasive than Milroe. So, said another way, ASU was no joke. Also, multiple no-calls allowed them to make their comeback and yet still Texas managed to grit it out and win the game. Our guys never gave up like they would have in the past. Sark and Flood need to fix the OL blocking though. Georgia and ASU cracked our code and they need to fix that problem. Other thought is, we have tended to play to the level of our competition. If that still holds, our play will elevate with the perceived threat faced. Our D is going to be a step above what OSU has faced. Our offense just has to produce and to do that, Quinn must be protected. I just hope the ACC crew is better than Big12, Big10 and SEC refs have proven to be this season. If they call it even, we should be good.
  4. Let me give you a little insight into why Quinn seems to eat against stronger opponents such as Michigan, Bama, etc. Most teams that play Texas say.. "Fuck this, we need to keep everything in front of us." So Quinn has played against the three high safety look the majority of his career in Austin. Certainly the B12, but teams did it a bunch against us this year as well. However, when you find teams that say "We are good enough to guard them, we will play them in single or two high looks", then Quinn suddenly goes off. He is hitting worthy for moonshots all day against Bama, he is torching Michigan's secondary, etc. When Quinn wasn't running for his life against Georgia, he started putting together some nice downfield throws. He has been far more accurate the last three games down the field and outside of the numbers. Now he just needs to not float the ball and we could see a true offensive explosion. I predict that he is going to hit some big plays down the field versus tOSU. Knowles is one of the better 3 high defensive coordinators out there, but he doesn't run that concept all the time because they have the athletes to cover in man. Once they go man, I expect Quinn to carve them up. When they roll back into a 3 high look, I expect us to try and run the ball with the wide zone. If Quinn breaks 300 yards against tOSU, I think we win that game.
  5. So we are going by wins? It is settled, he is the greatest Longhorn QB of all time then. Or is it Colt who won what 44 games? Or is it Vince, because he won the National championship? Are you seeing my logic now? See, there are differences in opinion. I'm not saying you are wrong, even though I don't agree with your opinion. Why am I wrong because of mine? I'm not the one with flawed logic.
  6. The Pate podcast was a pretty depressing listen and hard to argue with much of it. People try to compare this to the Texas/USC game but it's not remotely the same. Sure, the media talking head predictions may be the same but for those of us that watched every snap that season there was a ton of confidence based on actual X's and O's. That Texas team flat out dominated damn near every week including destroying Colorado in the Big 12 championship game. If anything USC was similar to Texas in that year in that they underachieved much more frequently despite winning (although they, along with Texas, played their A game in the Championship). This Texas team hasn't put a complete game together really since Michigan (well UTSA/ULM if you want to count poor competition). Starting with MSU we fucked around and have done it every game since. Florida was the best performance and even that took a 4th down conversion inside our own 25 YL to wake the damn offense up. I think it's absolutely fair for talking heads (and everyone) to wonder if Texas has an "A" game in them at this point as it really isn't "recency bias" as much as wondering if this is just who Texas is. That being said, for OSU, I think the jury is definitely still out whether they really are the team we saw the last 2 weeks (i.e., as Josh Pate stated, have they turned into LSU 2019 buzzsaw that is just that much better than anyone) or will they revert to the mean. I'll be fascinated to see how Sark coaches this game given the dynamics in play and given that we don't have a ton of matchups on paper that we love. There is absolutely still a path for Texas to win but going to need to somehow put it all together for 4 quarters. I don't disagree with Pate's assessment that we either have to be able to run the ball consistently or win the turnover battle by 2 or more to win.
  7. Quinn needs to play well above his norm the next two games to win a title. But to engage in the hypothetical and the QB debate, I assume your #2 ranking bumps him in front of Colt, and behind Vince. So between Colt and Quinn, it really depends on how much weight someone in this debate puts on a championship. Even if Quinn plays like Superman over the next two games, it's going to be hard for me to put him in front of Colt. Yes, Colt has no titles, and Quinn would have one. But Colt's overall body of work as a QB is much better than Quinn's. We won a lot of games because of Colt. We also won a few games in spite of Quinn.
  8. There is a ton of recency bias going around. If this game were right after the season ended, we may very well be favored, but tOSU has looked dominant in two games against what were considered top teams and Texas eeked out a win against ASU, so everyone things that will continue.
  9. Hey all - OSU fan living in Austin, long-time lurker and first-time poster. It’s either a perfect or horrible time for me to initiate contact….either way I suppose it’s a win for the internet. TX has the right talent in the right positions to win this. Primarily - your superb DL vs our suspect OL. Now the OSU OL has actually been playing out of its mind during the CFP, and I hope it continues. But the depth is very thin and most guys are playing out of position - this is your best opportunity to derail our offense in the same way Michigan did. Get pressure on Will AND slow down the running game with your front 4, and your back 7 has the talent to disrupt our offense enough to make this game a barnburner. But you have to do it with your DL first; mixing in blitzes and such is great but it has to be supplementary to your line pressure or Howard will pick you apart. (Fortunately for us, at this point I don’t expect Day/Kelly to gameplan an offensive attack that plays directly into our opponent’s strengths - that was a special kind of pain reserved for the current hell of The Game). I know your secondary is great and you have historic reasons to doubt Howard, but he’s been phenomenal for OSU and a boost to this team in every game but one. On the other side of the ball, you have great talent at the skill positions and I’m a Ewers believer; you’ll hit a few big plays over the course of the game. But your OL needs to play to its full potential. OSU’s defense is actually its biggest advantage, especially on the DL and at safety. This combo is going to test Quinn something fierce but I know he’s capable of standing in the heat and making plays. I have great respect for Blue but I don’t think you’ll be able to establish a consistent running game - you will need to take situational advantage of the right circumstances to pop enough plays in the running game. I do think Sark is capable of this and the chess match vs Knowles will be fascinating. A quick final note - the only offense to really stress the OSU defense this year has been Oregon’s and that primarily because of Gabriel’s scrambling ability to extend plays and buy time for the OSU secondary to finally break. It’s the only offense to score a passing TD on OSU in the latter 2/3 of the season. This particular skill is not a facet of Ewers’ game, so as much as I respect the guy and think he needs to be your primary engine (given his experience and command of the offense) this is one area where Arch might be really helpful for you given his mobility. It would need to be within specific circumstances and he can’t just be a running back - gotta let him be a full QB threat or OSU will shut it down. But I can see him helping you if Sark smartly deploys him. My guess is 31-21 OSU, where we look a lot more pedestrian than in the previous 2 games but pull out enough plays to win it. Turnovers and whatnot (at which your D excels) could easily change this. Anyway, Go Bucks.
  10. I see this season as a win/win no matter what happens. If we win, awesome. I will always be excited to watch UT hoops make it to the big dance. If we lose, it could help usher in a new staff who will probably (but not certainly) be better. The aggy game was pretty much a perfect storm worst case opponent for us. They are #1 in the country in offensive rebounding and we are a bad rebounding team. They were getting 2nd chance garbage points all night long. They are also very good defensively, both on the perimeter and down low. I don't think we are as bad as we looked in that game. I liked that we saw some lineups with Pope/Larry + Johnson + Mark + Kent + Kaluma. We need that more going forward.
  11. That was the refrain in 2005 when Texas won there. i think most Texas fans think we can win but won’t be surprised if we lose. I wouldn’t expect it a toss up, I’d go 60/40 tOSU wins. Reasons? Elite WR, somehow the tOSU Oline protects just enough and Texas licks the pole and gets its tongue frozen stuck in the third quarter like they kid in the Christmas movie - or put another way - Texas steps on its own dick in the third quarter and can’t pull out the W in the 4th.
  12. I was at a party a few days ago that was mostly High Church type people who got themselves indignantly worked up over whatever they'd last heard on NPR. The French Army in 1940 had more chance of winning than these people. Zero tactics, no clue as to why their arguments weren't selling to people, just that they were better. They weren't even kind and gentle. One turtle-necked malcontent dropped a "You must be a redneck" snark at me because I had on a (warm) plaid shirt and I sound more like Webb Wilder than I do a piccolo. That's Transplanted Northumbrian English, baybee. I coulda come back that her butt was big, but I just thought it. So anyway, that happened. I'll go back to hanging with my liberal artist friends who have paint under their fingernails, as we sell our stuff to anybody who knows how to act in public. Fuck it. Where's my damn Trump check.
  13. Said we are going to do something fun- here it is- @Gut Wagon gets 3 votes, I get 2 votes and @Fico gets 2 votes, @Mudcat35- all the other winners get 1... Majority vote as of Tuesday at Midnight controls: 1) Closed prediction contest for the winners (gut gets 3 guesses, FICO, mudcat and me get 2 and everyone else gets 1) and winner of the week (if texas wins the game) gets 2 tickets to the championship game on me. If Texas loses it all goes to Burnt Endz 2) Closed prediction contest for the winners (gut gets 3, fico, mudcat and me get 2, everyone else gets 1) and the winner of the contest gets $1,000 cash. 3) Donate it all to Burnt Endz 4) $50 to game winners, $25 to prop winners 5) Everyone that won a contest and wants one (because they are going) gets a free ticket to the tailgate party at the cotton bowl, we have a closed prediction contest for the Cotton Bowl and whatever extra money is left after buying tailgate tickets goes to the winner of that game. Voters: @conVINCEd, @Fico, @mvlonghorns@EZ$, @Rudy Rutabaga, @Gut Wagon, @bangkok, @TexArcher, @FloridaHorn, @t_eight, @Mudcat35, @SuckitKevin, @D3zii, @Nueces River Rat, @Dr.Dre, @DoobieWah, @TheAuditor, @Mr. Drummond, @BigOrange1, @satyanash, @Texasborn91, @Sgt Hulk, @Rex Kramer IF you don't vote I assume you went with Muledick.
  14. Lay back and enjoy it if we suck this year. That will get us a new staff. This staff is never going to win anything. I have no idea who the right hire will be going forward, but there are enough people that care about the program and enough advantages that a competent coach will have us just fine, and a good staff should be able to compete for punchers chance to win it all. This too shall pass.
  15. I know every team at this part of the season can engage in this exercise to some extent, but just think of how much more consistent and efficient this offense would have been with a healthy Baxter and Bond all year. I think if we had Cam Williams for the ASU game it would have helped our run game enough to stave off the late comeback. College football has always been a war of attrition, but now that it takes 17 games to win a national championship, consistently great recruiting to build depth is more important than ever. We’ve just stacked four straight top-5 classes, so we are well-positioned to keep competing at the highest level going forward.
  16. I'll take OSU now over a game with ND or PS. I think the results of the previous 2 games for OSU and Texas and the seeding going forward are ideal for Texas. Texas coming off a struggle and OSU coasting to wins could help give us an edge. I'd rather meet OSU now rather than the final and I don't really care about making it to the final if we aren't going to win it. Playing OSU now is our best shot at them. I think we'll be the more motivated team and it's in Dallas. None of that will be enough if both teams continue playing like they have, but that's not typically how football works. I'm not counting on OSU shitting the bed, but they are only 2 games out from a really crappy loss. I love that OSU has been anointed the unstoppable team of the century while nobody is giving Texas a shot just a week after we were considered the favorite to win it all (right or wrong). Most fans and sports writers have the attention span of puppies. Nobody really knows how it will shake out, but there is a lot of rat poison being fed to OSU right now and that's a good thing in my opinion.
  17. This shitty roster is on Terry and going after two Indiana st guys from a team that didn’t make the tourney last year then acting like we added two studs is laughable. No big men when we needed big men and here we are. We can’t rebound and we go through large stretches of games and can’t score. When we do win it’s because we play hero ball offense and need someone to go off for us to have a shot. And you watch, if we win one of these games at home it will be because tre johnson or kaluma go off and the Terry defenders will say Terry is great. We might win 4-6 sec games this year.
  18. This season could quickly become be a total disaster. We have a poorly constructed roster that is shaping up to get bent over in conference play and a demonstrable lack of interest in the program (which I personally put much of the blame on Terry for the weak ass non conference schedule he put together). Having our two toughest opponents at home in TN and Auburn while the students haven’t come back from break or are otherwise not back from the Cotton Bowl is going to limit any sort of home court advantage, if you would even call it that. I have been going to games for 25 years and don’t recall an atmosphere as lame as we consistently have. I hate hero ball, but it seems like Tre getting hot and pouring it on is the only way we are going to be able to win some games.
  19. It’s interesting. He was trusted in a win or go home game two weeks ago. But that wasn’t the original play call either. I understand the lack of trust regarding fumbles. That does seem to be more of an issue in the game versus pass game though. Sark is unpredictable so certainly would not predict Blue with another big play or two, but I won’t be surprised either. We have not seen that angle route lately.
  20. game is going to boil down to one thing and one thing only. can the oline block. if they give the backs a decent running lane and quinn some time. we win. if not we get oregon'd
  21. We are going to win Friday, and on the 20th. Pundits will make $$$ clicks blowing tOSU (and whomever next) and dogging on Texas. They will make money, we will win a title.
  22. An Aggie buddy of mine is really taking this angle of things hard. He was very confident that we'd come into the SEC and be taught a rough lesson and humbled. Crowed about Georgia beating us the first time and was generally insufferable. He let it go for a while when the inevitable A&M collapse/Texas resurgence happened and he's kind of reduced to angrily whining about conference drama. - Very upset with me and others in the group chat for laughing at the SEC's bowl woes, admonishing us to have conference pride - Seems brainlocked at the concept of viewing Ohio St/Texas through his promoted prism of conference pride when confronted by Florida buddy (never me, picking on Aggies isn't even really fun for me in real life unless they start it, and even then kind of boring). The Big 10 call from within Aggie fandom is just a re-manifestation of the same sad, pathetic impulse that led them out of the Big 12. There is no faith within them that they will ever be anything worth attention, so they think they need coattails to ride or to be in near proximity to a shinier object to get its reflected light. It's not even in their heads that they could either (a) be the leader or (b) be focused on themselves and their own achievements/failures outside of regularly comparing against others. And really, a lot of this is our fault. If you make fun of little brother enough, he believes it and it becomes his personality if he isn't mentally and emotionally strong. Aggies are neither. I'd like to respect them, but they have to make themselves respectable (win) and then act respectably (stop fucking whining all the time and seeking Good Boy points and praise and validation from others) over a consistent period of time. If not winning -> shut up If winning -> act like its expected and be outwardly non-plussed and gracious repeat for 20 years and maybe, MAYBE we can start to look at you like you're a Big Boy
  23. I’ve had an issue with our receivers sitting down in zone all year. I’m not sure what they are being coached but I feel like they run a route vs adapting to coverage more often than not. Sometimes those routes are long developing too and had they sat in a soft part of the zone we could get easy completions. additionally I think the script is out on attacking our offense… double LB blitz in the A gap. It’s what ASU tried on 4 and 13 and we fortunately saw it before it fired off. But we struggled with it against UGA too. Some of our plays are too slow and it allows for blitzing defenses to blitz without abandon. Clemson almost achieved this in that lucky screen pass from Ewers to Helm. sark thinks the slow developing will hold defenses and confuse them, however defenses have decided to fore go reacting and instead just come blasting in to disrupt everything. The defenses are starting to win if they can time it up with snap cadence and not allow us to check protections.
  24. My first paragraph was in reference to the season on the whole. Play action is Sarks idea of offense. It’s going to continue. Posters here get their drawers all bunched up about shit. If you’re talking the two missed FG drives and the two OT drives, you’re only talking two scoring drives. The easy TD was play action. The other was a great play but incredibly stupid defensive play call. One was a two minute drive so not standard offense. The other, yes, was a missed FG from 48 yards out, but we didn’t put it in the end zone. And it wasn’t a short field goal either. We can win many ways. Even if the run game is not successful, the opponent respects it. We can certainly be successful throwing it too. Sark may frustrate you, but the first and last TDs were direct results of his philosophies and tendencies.
  25. I get it but I think you went a little strong there calling him a "trash human". He's a weird/complicated dude and my love for him has honestly waned a bit the past couple years - but some of that is just me emotionally separating and being at peace with how his career has come to a close. Holistically I think what should define his legacy almost more than anything is all of the USAB stuff. We don't win in Tokyo if he doesn't commit. I'm not sure we squeak by Serbia if he doesn't commit again. That shit is a big fucking deal and I think gets glossed over BECAUSE we didn't lose either year. You're in a fucking dogfight with Serbia and the best player on the planet - you have your two biggest superstars of the past 15 years out there who - by the way - are two of the greatest 10 players to ever touch a basketball. In the last minute of the game you need a bucket to quiet things down and escape and cap off a huge comeback and who does the ball go to? Who do you trust to take maybe the biggest shot in USAB history? And does he ice that shit or does he come up short? That's who Kevin Durant is. Strange guy. Strange legacy. Burned a lot of bridges and collected a lot of haters along the way. He's a hooper's hooper and he's unapologetic about it. From that same Olympics he produced another one of my favorite clips of all time when he embraced and consoled a teary-eyed Wembanyama after France came up short. That's not a trash human being - that's some genuine shit. YMMV. I'm incredibly biased but I will always defend the guy and he will remain one of my favorite athletes of all time. In a lot of ways he deserves the hate but he also deserves the love that he gets from fans like me. There will never, ever be another Kevin Durant. For better or worse. He is and will remain one of one.
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