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  1. if the committee wants to it will declare Texas' "eyetest" destruction of tech trumps duck and that's why we move ahead a slot this week, with that contoversy buried behind the slotting of bama at 5, again, to telegraph what they intend to do with a bama win over georgia BUT WE'RE STILL NOT GOING because wulaw can't lose a fucking parlay to save his life don't shoot the messenger
  2. The real question is if they will leave out the SEC completely if Bama beats Georgia? Can't see it happening but that result will create the most "chaos" because you know Georgia is going to lobby they still deserve to be there. If the committee wants to have no chaos or controversy, they would just hope for Georgia, Wash, Michigan, FSU all win. 4 undefeated conference winners. No other undefeated P5 teams. If those results happen, Oregon and Bama are done. Georgia, Mich and Wash all in without a doubt. That would leave FSU vs Texas for the 4th spot. Right now, obviously anyone with a pulse knows Texas is the better team and would win by 20+ with FSU not having their QB. FSU was able to beat Florida because they were able to get the run game going . I can't see them doing that against us. And we would make that spare backup's day a nightmare.
  3. conversely, when bama beats dawg, and bama lands at 2, fsu will jump to 3 because michigan is 1 and draws dawg at 4 PEOPLE WE ARE NOT GOING LET'S WIN THIS FUCKING LEAGUE AND PRAY NO TULANE
  4. Plenty of playoffs to come. We already have the 4-team semi replacing two Bigass Bowls, so the expanded shit will claim another group - four games to get from 12 to 8, then four more games to go from 8 to 4, two more games to get from 4 to 2, and the Grand Finale to crown the survivor. So that's what, ten more "Bowl" games. Not gonna be any lost games. You finish - oh, let's say 5th - and let's say you actually win it all... You start with already having played 13 games, then you play round 1 four games from 12 teams to 8, round 2 four more games from 8 to 4, round 3 two more games from 4 to 2, and the Grand Finale makes four games for a team rated 5-12 and you've played 17 games for the season. Finish 4 thru 1, and you get there with one fewer games, which seems like an unreasonable advantage just for being in the top 4 bikini winners. And... we're still in the Beauty Contest bidness other than the P5 P4, right? All things bowly considered, we go from three games to thirteen. No bowls gonna shut down, just some bowls gonna have a little less say in who gets to play.
  5. Anyone want to tell Longhorn Board where we likely play our next game if we win but the rest of the Championship Games go chalk and we aren't in the playoff?
  6. We pretend they are good because the narrative of SEC dominance started rolling when they won 7 in a row after our 2005 win. in the ensuing 17 seasons SEC has had 19 representatives, at least 1 rep in 16 of 17, and they have won 13 of the 17. they have been top heavy for sure, and an SEC bias has led to 2 teams in the finals 3 times, but they still have to go win the games and 5 different teams have done so. ACC has 3 wins and B1G has 1. That’s it. if anything I would say B1G has been the biggest underachiever based on 1 team going 1/4 with no other contenders while getting hyped up and making more money than the others.
  7. I have not looked at the conference records in depth, but I think a lot of the love for the Pac 10 as a conference is based on early season wins over Florida and TCU.. At the time those were considered statements. Today we know TCU and Florida is not going anywhere. I would guess the computers are giving Big 12 some credit for their game play vs Oregon (tech) and Utah (Baylor),
  8. Look here sister fucker, get it straight. Aggies are an embarrassment we love to laugh at but have to share a state with. We hate you guys because y’all come to Texas once a year and drag your ass across the carpet, but you’re our rival and you’re a blue blood program who has been to the mountaintop more times than we have. We still own the series, though you have been closing the gap at an alarming rate over the past few decades. 4 of our past 5 coaches had us doing donuts in the desert while you had John Blake for a few years.. How many times have you backdoored into the playoffs with a loss only to shit all over yourselves? We probably have the horses to win it all this year yet still took the Loss to y’all, and we are on the outside looking in to the CFP because the rest of the country tired of falling for the B12 banana in the tail pipe. But at least most of you go back to your trailer park meth labs for the other 364 days a year, so there’s that. Anyway, heres Aggies making fools of themselves repeatedly, we can certainly agree to laugh at them. Cheers!
  9. If Bama loses, we aren't going to get in over Oregon if that is what it comes down to. Only way we get in over Oregon is if Bama wins. There is also a very small chance we get in over Bama. Georgia will drop behind us, and that is all that matters.
  10. Calmer than you are dude. It’s a bad argument if you can’t call a guy who finishes in the top 5 as a Heisman and goes high in the draft after going something like 30-6 in games he starts and finishes as a starter a longhorn legend. Because that’s where Quinn is going to finish up. go read my Sark thread from last year. Or my Milroe comment from Tuscaloosa. And know that my Ewers comment is going to be as prophetic as that. he played fine as a basically true freshman. He’s playing really good as a sophomore this year. Same progression and he’s going to be awesome next year. Anyone expecting more out of him at this stage in his career was doing it wrong. I posted- something like 50 pages ago, all the numbers for true freshman QB’s that won a Heisman and they were uniformly garbage. Quinns were better than them all. I guess you can argue he wasn’t a true freshman but I’d say starting in August after camp was 2 weeks old at Ohio state and transferring to Texas and playing in his first year in the program made him closer to a true freshman than a redshirt freshman, but it would probably be fair to split the difference. regardless, there’s nothing surprising about him getting a ton better between last year and this year and there will be nothing surprising about him making a big leap next year. A big leap for him means we go 10-2- he wins hardware and he goes top 5 in the draft. And that’s all longhorn legend territory.
  11. We are not going to talk about it anymore," Elko said Monday, "we are going to be about it." "We will become the absolute best version of ourself as quickly as possible, because the best version of Texas A&M football wins the national championship,"Elko said. "The best version of Texas A&M football, our way, wins the national championship." Says they aren’t going to talk about winning the national championship anymore. The proceeds to talk about winning the national championship. They are the gift that keeps on giving, an early Christmas miracle
  12. Under Mike Elko, Texas A&M is going to take the stairs Gone are the custom cowboy boots, the TBD national championship plaques and the $75 million guaranteed contract. In are a "blue-collar mentality" and a little bit of competitive humility. ZACH BARNETT 59 MINUTES AGO This time around, there was no ceremonial pair of cowboy boots. There will be no national championship plaque with the year to be filled in later. And there will be no $75 million, fully-guaranteed contract. Texas A&M's dismissal of Jimbo Fisher and its hiring of Mike Elko, his former assistant, as his replacement was many things, but most of all it was an admission that building a championship program was more than just hiring a coach who'd done it before and assuming the rest would take care of itself. "We are not going to talk about it anymore," Elko said Monday, "we are going to be about it." "I say this to my players all the time: there is no button you push to get to the top of college football," he said later. "There's a stair that you have to climb every single day to accomplish what you want to accomplish." In the two weeks between the firing of Fisher and the hiring of Elko, Texas A&M AD Ross Bjork said he spoke to 30 coaches and more than 25 ex-players -- some of those, like Lions head coach Dan Campbell, are both -- which, he said, "helped crystalize the identity of the ideal candidate." However, the most instructive activity Bjork and his team undertook, as he recounted Monday, was a research project that studied how each national champions in the SEC are built. "The more you look at it, the simpler it gets. The majority of the winners have these things in common: a defensive-minded head coach, a championship-level culture, recruit and acquire elite NFL-type talent, play great offense and score a lot of points with a high-level quarterback," Bjork said. Texas A&M's own history, the halcyon "Wrecking Crew" days of the 1990s under R.C. Slocum (himself a former A&M assistant before taking over the program), also led Bjork back to Elko. "When is Kyle Field at its best? When the defense plays at an elite level," Bjork said. Elko's return is interesting because it's equal parts a fast-track hire and a slow-burn hire. He was the defensive coordinator when A&M recruited its record-breaking 2022 recruiting class, who now enters its junior season in 2024. No SEC schedule will ever be "easy" moving forward, but the Aggies avoid Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss and Oklahoma in 2024. Their toughest games (Notre Dame, LSU, Texas) are all at home. With the Playoff expanding, there's no reason A&M shouldn't, at minimum, be part of the conversation this time next year. "We will become the absolute best version of ourself as quickly as possible, because the best version of Texas A&M football wins the national championship," Elko said. "The best version of Texas A&M football, our way, wins the national championship." At the same time, what are fair expectations for a program whose lone national title came in 1939? Whose last conference championship came in 1998? How much time should a program that's 12-12 over the past two years spend talking about national championships? "We also embrace who we are right now, where we need to work and where we need to improve to get where we want to go... No one will hand us anything -- not in this conference, not in this country, not in this era of college football. We're going to have to go out and get it. We're going to have to understand that there are no shortcuts to success." Texas A&M will take the stairs under Mike Elko, and they'll do so in tennis shoes, not custom cowboy boots.
  13. I think there’s a bit of misunderstanding about sark’s offense. If you look back at history of Sark as an OC and HC he always makes the rb’s look really good but not all the qb’s he’s had put up impressive numbers. He’s had a 1k yard rusher every year he’s been a head coach. Jake locker, Keith Price, Casey Thompson and Hudson card did not set the world on fire. Bishop sankey, Chris Polk, javorius Allen, and now Jonathan brooks put up great numbers because sark’s offense attacks the run. That history still has people running that 3-3-5 against Quinn, even with all the guys on here saying he’s inaccurate, he can’t read defenses, his pocket presence is awful, etc. If defenses decided to give Quinn the looks that Maalik got he would put up “video game” numbers and win a heisman. Shit if we had a wr like Burton, Luther from Missouri, that kid from Florida state, Harrison jr or nabers then Quinn would have better numbers. Mitchell is good but he’s soft, worthy is not a 50/50 guy, and Whittington isn’t blowing the top off a defense. All our so called threats are dangerous as long as our qb gets the ball in a good spot, if not then they kind of disappear. Those other guys I watch go make play for their qb routinely. McCord is a shitty qb but Harrison bails his ass out A LOT. I have no idea who the Missouri qb is lol.
  14. This game isn't going to be close. It won't be Tech easy but we'll beat OSU by double digits. This team is focused on the prize, which since the end of last year is to win the B12. Unless Quinn throws 3 picks or we fumbled/turnover the ball 3 times, we roll.
  15. SOS isn't based on top 25 rankings. It is based on the entire schedule. The vast majority of the teams we played turned out to be solid. Rice, 6-6, going bowling (4 close loses) Alabama, 11-1, potential CFP Wyoming, 8-4, going bowling Baylor, 3-9 (hahaha) Kansas. 8-4, going bowling Sooners, 10-2, going bowling Houston, 4-8 BYU, 5-7 Kansas State, 8-4, going bowling TCU, 5-7 Iowa State, 7-5, going bowling Texas Tech, 6-6, going bowling 2 of the 4 teams we played that aren't going bowling are just barely missing out. 8 of the 12 had records that were .500 or better. The composite win percentage of our opponents is 57% (81-61). In comparison, Oregon: Portland State, 5-6 (FCS) Texas Tech, 6-6, going bowling Hawaii, 5-8 Colorado, 4-8 Stanford, 3-9 Washington, 12-0 Washington State, 5-7 Utah, 8-4, going bowling Cal, 6-6, going bowling USC, 7-5, going bowling Arizona State, 3-9 Oregon State, 8-4, going bowling Only 5 of Oregon's opponents are going to a bowl game. Combined win percentage of exactly 50% (72-72). And an FCS team was thrown in the mix for good measure. Alabama Middle Tenn, 4-8 Texas, 11-1 South Florida, 6-6, bowling Ole Miss, 10-2, bowling Miss State, 5-7 Aggy, 7-5, bowling Arkansas, 4-8 Tenn, 8-4, bowling LSU, 9-3, bowling Kentucky, 7-5, bowling Chattanooga, 8-4 (FCS) Auburn, 6-6, bowling Combined win percentage, 59%, with the caveat that there is an FCS team in there AND every SEC team schedules an additional out of conference cupcake over other conferences.
  16. Other than one small nit (addressed in a minute), I agree. Prior to last Friday/Saturday's games, it's clear that the committee thought Oregon's resume was superior to ours. Both teams pummelled their opponent at home, but Oregon played a tougher team (Oregon State > Texas Tech). They are not going to jump us ahead of Oregon tomorrow night. When it comes to conference championship games, an Oregon win over Washington will be seen as superior to a Texas win over Okie State. Same story. They will not move us ahead of Oregon. The only way we will move ahead of Oregon is if Oregon loses. (That's my nit -- "And nothing will change in between now and Sunday in our favor." Not nothing, but nothing if Oregon wins.)
  17. SEC Championship - You know an SEC team is getting in, that is either 13-0 Georgia or 12-1 Alabama The SEC and PAC champions are both getting in even if it is Oregon and Alabama.* Our only hopes are on Michigan and/or FSU losses * There is an outside chance of jumping 12-1 Oregon or Alabama if they play like shit and win a 5-3 OT game while we cruise over OK St. Spots will go to teams in about this order: 13-0 Georgia 13-0 Michigan 13-0 Washington 13-0 FSU 12-1 Alabama 12-1 Oregon 12-1 Texas
  18. Of all the insane shit about Aggy that I'll never understand, perhaps the one thing that is most mystifying is why they insist on being so declarative about shit that can be so easily factually disputed or disregarded based on historical performance. "We don't have a plan B. We identify our top target and go get him" - You literally hired your backup plan when the original backup plan was mocked by your fanbase. "This is not an 8-4 job" - Your historical performance over the past 25 years is 8-4 and you hired a guy that fell short of those middling expectations in the ACC. The plaque. That's all. The plaque. NONE of that shit needed to be said or done. They're so fucking obsessed with projecting their own (hilariously inaccurate) manufactured sense of confidence and superiority that they continue to do and say unbelievably stupid shit. They publicly state that one of the main things they were looking for in a coach was his ability to keep their illustrious #1 class of all time intact. Never mind that from a program-building perspective the class was comically weighted to one position group, filled with character risks and out-of-state mercenaries that aren't ever likely to succeed. Who from that class has turned into a "must retain" stud? Name one. You can't. Walter Nolan? He's a good player. He's not a dude opposing OCs have to scheme around. Evan Stewart? He's gone. Bryce Anderson? Maybe he'll get there? If you're wanting to rid yourself of the festering rot of mediocrity that has plagued your program for 25 years none of those guys should matter. Project cautious confidence in the capability of the new guy and give him time to build the program the way he wants to. But no, you can't do that. You're making decisions that will reverberate for decades hoping against all odds that you win one game next year. This is how stupid people run shit. It's fucking absurd.
  19. I understand the rationale from Texas fans saying that we could/should go over a 1-loss Bama SEC champ, but you’d have to completely disregard the SEC bias of the last 10-15 years and there’s just no chance the committee does that. There would be a lot of commentary on Texas getting a raw deal, but it wouldn’t change anything. There is no chance the SEC champ misses the playoffs this year. There’s a better chance that Georgia goes instead of Texas even if Georgia loses than Texas going over Bama if Bama wins. The SEC bias is the strongest influence in CFB.
  20. I swear some of y'all would rather be right than happy. Vegas had us at 9.5 wins. Most of the guys on IT had us going 10-2 at best. These aren't cagey fans or battered longhorns. They are industry people who, by a huge margin, did not think we would win more than 10 games and were more likely to only win 9. We have overachieved and it's okay to be happy about that.
  21. I disagree with this premise. I think Texas would go unless Bama boatraces Georgia (win by 14 or more) and we look like shit against OSU (winning by 10 or less).
  22. Has anyone alerted the coaches that the next game is in Arlington? If we fail to show up, we are not going to have a chance to win the conference.
  23. I mean, they really should go 8-4 at worst next year. Their schedule is super favorable. No Alabama, Georgia or Ole Miss, and their four toughest games (ND, LSU, Texas and Missouri) are all at home. ND and LSU are relatively down, and although we should be better than A&M on paper, it's worth acknowledging that we have to replace a fuck ton of talent on both sides of the ball next year. If they can't get to 8 wins next year, it's a really bad sign for them.
  24. Just an FYI, literally all of the Bama board is resigned to the fact that they will not get in over Texas because they lost head to head. So I definitely think the SEC can and will get shut out. If Texas looks good in their win against OSU and it comes down to Bama vs Texas, we are going over them. Because, you know, that game was played on the field and we won.
  25. I still think we have a small shot even if Oregon wins, probably depends on how each of us look in CCG Louisville or Iowa wins - 95%+ Texas is in with a win Bama Wins - ~70% Texas is in (again depends on how those games go down) Oregon Wins - ~20% Texas is in (another eye test)
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