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6 hours ago, Bogeywon said:

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these any good? I need 2 new chords. I use monster the last 20 years and these cables are about 17 years old 

I'm a believer in the "silent" sleeve thing.  I've had a Mogami cable with that feature for 15+ years, and I'll never go back.  

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Welcome home, my love. New Tele American Pro II (stupid fucking name, fender)

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My daughter got her bumblebee telecaster today.  She was stoked, and so was I.

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52 minutes ago, Bogeywon said:

Just opened the new guitar at my office. It’s beautiful! I need a fender tweed case for it though the molded case does nothing for me... will post pics when I’m out of the dentist. Can’t wait to plus this thing in and rip!

Which model PRS does your dentist have?

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Probably going to need a pic to be sure.  That said, if you're going to move it around a lot, then you probably don't want tweed as they get messed up a lot easier than the Tolex.  
 
Beat up tweed looks awful.

Wait...wut?

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Been off the grid for a week due to the city clusterfuck of total dumpsterfire incompetence on my road, severing all communication to the inter-netherworld and beyond. But maybe karma was repaying me a bit when I stumbled on a beautiful Epiphone Viola "Beatles Bass" for $160. Always kinda wanted a Beatles Paul bass type, and the Epi is way better than the affordable Hofner version. It's even getting vintagey, since the serial lookup showed it originating from Korea in 2004. I need to find a bag for it. Plays great, even sounds decent through my little Blackstar Fly 3 guitar amp. The bass amp is buried under too much junk to dig it out right now.

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4 minutes ago, DougO said:

Been off the grid for a week due to the city clusterfuck of total dumpsterfire incompetence on my road, severing all communication to the inter-netherworld and beyond. But maybe karma was repaying me a bit when I stumbled on a beautiful Epiphone Viola "Beatles Bass" for $160. Always kinda wanted a Beatles Paul bass type, and the Epi is way better than the affordable Hofner version. It's even getting vintagey, since the serial lookup showed it originating from Korea in 2004. I need to find a bag for it. Plays great, even sounds decent through my little Blackstar Fly 3 guitar amp. The bass amp is buried under too much junk to dig it out right now.

All these beautiful words.  

Yet no pics. 

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3 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

All these beautiful words.  

Yet no pics. 

I haven't made an attempt at pics yet due the the shitty attitude dealing with the construction shit, the mud and the rain. I'll see if I can grab a shot and post up in a while.

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37 minutes ago, Bogeywon said:

It’s like a gold 

What about the body color? I've never seen a Montego Black guitar in person.

Is it a metallic color? If so, are the metal flakes gold? One description I read online said it has flakes that look red and green in certain lighting. 

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So. I have decided to begin by borrowing a friend’s guitar.  He has five (he’s a drummer so go figure) and he’s going to bring an easier to play guitar for me to start messing around with and get a feel for the instrument.  Then at least when I decide to buy one I’ll have an idea of what it feels like in my hands and what’s comfortable to me  

Baby steps. 

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12 hours ago, VABuckeye said:

So. I have decided to begin by borrowing a friend’s guitar.  He has five (he’s a drummer so go figure) and he’s going to bring an easier to play guitar for me to start messing around with and get a feel for the instrument.  Then at least when I decide to buy one I’ll have an idea of what it feels like in my hands and what’s comfortable to me  

Baby steps. 

This is a good move.  Also start stopping by guitar stores and just trying different guitars out.  Remember that action (how far the strings are above the fretboard) can affect a lot and that's an easily adjustable thing.  Further, not all guitars are made the same (i.e., just because you didn't like that one Tele, doesn't mean the one right next to it doesn't fit your hands just right).  

I've seen many beginners chuck a guitar to the side that was otherwise just dandy simply because they didn't know the action could be adjusted.  I've also seen people say "I don't like Teles/Les Pauls/etc. because I play one this one time I didn't like."  That's like saying "I banged this girl who looked fine but was an idiot so I gave up fine girls."  While this may work for Vic, it does not work for guitars. Or something like that. 

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There's an interview out there somewhere with John Mayer where he talks about the difference between 5 "identical" guitars.  He boils it down to string tension ("slack"), or at least that's how he verbalizes it.  I'm not sure what he's really getting at, but like Eric Johnson, he's a good enough player to apparently sense things that most of us would be oblivious to.  Or, he's full of shit.  

If he's not, then the effects of setup height would probably be so gross to him as to void even entering the discussion.  For us mortals, it's a good lesson -- don't draw sweeping conclusions based on quick demos of roughly similar guitars in different environments.

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After much consideration, I've ordered some Lindy Fralin hum-cancelling p-90s for the jazzmaster.   I've learned a lot about pickups in the process.  For anyone who is interested:

Standard single-coil, each of the pole pieces is an individual magnet, and the coil wraps around all of them:

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Typical Jazzmaster single coil, same basic design but much flatter and the winding (and magnetic field) goes wider, which senses a wider swath of the string, producing a different tone:

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Now, the single coils in the jazzmaster I just got are a newer design that is much closer to a strat pickup, as you can see below from its height and relative lack of width.  And they sound a lot like a strat pickup.  JM enthusiasts apparently hate them and think that Fender is just homogenizing them to sound like Strats so that they sell better to a customer base that is used to the strat sound.  I considered getting real JM pickups for my JM, but I generally don't love the classic jazzmaster tone like some people do.

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Now, a p-90 is also a single-coil pickup, but differs in that the pole pieces are just steel, not individual magnets.  The magnets in a p-90 are two bar magnets that use the steel poles as passive magnetic conductors going up to the string.   The polepieces are also individually adjustable up or down.   The sides of the bar magnets actually face each other in the same direction (north to north or south to south) and slightly repel, but the purpose is to transmit a single polarity into the steel screws.   If the steel screw has two north sides of bar magnets on each side of the bottom, it will induce the bottom of the screw to have a south polarity and the top of the screw to have a north polarity:

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The diagram above doesn't show the winding, but it goes sideways around the shim holding passive pole pieces, between the bobbin top and bottom, with the bar magnets underneath:

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The Lindy Fralin hum-cancelling p90s I just ordered are a bit different.  You can see below that it still has passive steel pole pieces in the center that go down through bar magnets on each side.  But instead of one winding going horizontally around the pole pieces, these have two windings, one coil around each bar magnet, going vertically.   The two coils are wired out of phase, which results in the hum-cancellation like a humbucker.  Technically, these aren't single coil pickups, but rather "sidewinder" humbucking pickups:

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If you are wondering what distinguishes these from PAF humbuckers, the answer is the single row of polepieces with two magnets (Fralin hum-cancelling p-90) versus two rows of polepieces with one magnet (PAF).    A PAF has side-by-side single coils with two rows of passive polepieces and a single magnet underneath both.  Each of the two coils is wired out of phase, plus have opposite magnetic polarity because one row is touching the north side of the magnet and the other is touching the south.   For one thing, the two rows of polepieces sense slightly different parts of the same string, resulting in the cancellation of some frequencies and a smoother sound; the Fralins, by contrast, keep the single row of polepieces common to p90s and single-coil pickups and all of the frequencies sensed at that part of the string.   For another, the opposite magnetic polarity in the PAFs creates an additive effect, whereas the Fralins (like all P90s) just have one magnetic polarity on the single row of polepieces.

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Beyond this, there are many other factors that affect the sound, including the number of winds, thickness of the coil wire, height of the bobbins, different metals used, etc.

tldr:  The Fralins are technically humbuckers, but with only one row of passive pole-pieces like p90s, and fine-tuned in various other ways to sound like classic p90s.  They sound pretty great to me on youtube, so I'm looking forward to trying them out.

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On 4/3/2019 at 9:30 AM, Jograves said:

When I decided to start playing a few years ago, my friend told me two things. 1) if you want to eventually play electric, learn on an electric and vice versa if you want to play mostly acoustic. 2) buy a guitar that feels comfortable. Strum several and don't get your heart set on one particular guitar before going. You may not like how it feels and if you don't, you won't want to learn. 

Truth.

The thing that sold me big time was the feel and the tone.  Probably the main reasons I bought one of the ugliest electrics you could imagine.  I remember the first time I played it it felt like heaven in my hands, and oh God the sound.  Still in love with it 19 years later.

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Turned 50, today. My goal this year is to find an amp or guitar that was made during my birth year. Amp would probably be cheaper. Guarantee it will be in better shape than me.

I expect a PM from Foggy in the next hour telling me he found something on Craigslist.

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7 minutes ago, Deej said:

Turned 50, today. My goal this year is to find an amp or guitar that was made during my birth year. Amp would probably be cheaper. Guarantee it will be in better shape than me.

I expect a PM from Foggy in the next hour telling me he found something on Craigslist.

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