The Guitar Pron Thread

[noharleyyet 2853]

Alternate tunings make me appear more musically inclined than I am....mitigates the suck

[Paul Wesley 3299]

2 hours ago, topochico said:

So, own one guitar per song? I am comfortable with this plan. 

[tbone_ 14259]

So, own one guitar per song? I am comfortable with this plan. 

I’d be all for it if I have a guy dialing them in and handing them to me one by one.

 

Tom Petty seemed to have this system down pretty good.

 

That said, I enjoy that I can play every song our band plays with my HSS strat, one pedal, and a volume knob. The less I have to think about the better.

[Deej 77173]

If you play any open tuning regularly, it's just easier to have a dedicated guitar for that tuning. Particularly for an Open G tuning. It's easier without the low E string, so it's not like just re-tuning. I keep a Tele in 5-string Open G at all times. 

[noharleyyet 2853]

35 minutes ago, Deej said:

If you play any open tuning regularly, it's just easier to have a dedicated guitar for that tuning. Particularly for an Open G tuning. It's easier without the low E string, so it's not like just re-tuning. I keep a Tele in 5-string Open G at all times. 

I see what you did there...micawber.gif....it's settled then, tele acquisition necessary

 

[tbone_ 14259]

Which e do you get rid of, the fat one or the skinny one?

[Deej 77173]

15 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Which e do you get rid of, the fat one or the skinny one?

Low. Fat one. Top string. not necessary and actually lets you attack that 5th string harder. 

[tbone_ 14259]

Do you need an action adjustment after doing that?

[tbone_ 14259]

Do you need an action adjustment after doing that?

[Deej 77173]

No, and no. 

[AnotherUTFan 9824]

Low. Fat one. Top string. not necessary and actually lets you attack that 5th string harder. 

The Kieth Richard's special!

In his book he says he got irritated when he found somebody else doing it. "Hey, that's MY thing!"

I should do it to one. What's the point of all these guitars if they're all in standard tunings?

[Deej 77173]

https://www.guitarplayer.com/technique/keith-richards

and as you can see from the following, the 5th string is the root, and the sixth string is just in the way.

https://www.guitar-chord.org/articles/open-g-tuning.html

Edited February 17, 2020 by Deej

[tbone_ 14259]

I may just do that to for once in my life correctly play the start me up riff into a cranked old fender amp.

[Celery Man 21026]

It's Presidents Day, so you're going to need a new SG and Explorer as well

[AnotherUTFan 9824]

https://www.guitarplayer.com/technique/keith-richards

I use the fuck out of that 2 chords in one move Kieth talks about there (with Start Me Up, Brown Sugar, and Honky Tonk Women as examples). Malcolm Young uses it a hell of a lot in the earlier AC/DC albums (Rock and Roll Damnation, Up to my Neck in You, etc), but in a standard tuning. I know a couple Thin Lizzy Tracks that use it too, their Rosalie version is almost exclusively that move.

It's just an effortless way to move the V chord on out of the I chord. There is so much Rock and Roll still yet undiscovered in that well. I go to it all the time for but riff ideas and fill/flavor ideas. Like Malcom, I use it out of standard tuning and just play the 2nd through 4th strings.

[AnotherUTFan 9824]

Changing the subject. Help me with changing strings.

I've been changing strings for 35 years now and I still cant consistently get the 3 wraps around the two heavy posts as I was taught you should early on. I either have too much string and I get more than 3 and the sting piles up at the headstock plate, or I get 2, 2 1/2.

It's even harder on the LP because it has vintage correct shorter posts.

About 20 years ago I learned to get the 1st wrap above the stub that gets trimmed, both locking the string in place and giving you additional space for the wraps under it.

Anybody master this and have any tips? Here's my process while stringing the Martin yesterday, which is what got me to thinking about thus. Not a bad attempt, I got 3 on the A and 2 1/2 on the E.

[tbone_ 14259]

I’m no help. 41 years of playing and mine still look like ass every time.

[Deej 77173]

I always just get two wraps on the top two strings. I ain't fucking with trying to get a third. 

[Celery Man 21026]

we're supposed to get three wraps?  I think I aim for like 1.5 but not sure where I got that in my head.

[Chad Fuck 17843]

Three wraps beneath. It can be done.

[Anton Chigurh 3321]

Locking tuners. Ain’t need no wraps!

[Foggy Notion 1202]

I’ve been using Taylor’s guide for restringing acoustics with good results. They recommend 2-3 wraps on the bass strings and 5-6 wraps for the treble strings. For the low E, A and D, cut the string one post length past the tuning key. For the G, B and high E, cut the string at one and a half post lengths past the tuner. 

https://www.taylorguitars.com/support/strings/changing-steel-strings

[jimmyjazz 46476]

Huh.  I wrap the string and cut it after I tune it up.

Or, I let the long ends wiggle about like I'm as lazy as I really am.  One day I'll poke my eye out.

[tbone_ 14259]

Same

[Deej 77173]

So, is this not correct?

[tbone_ 14259]

That’s exactly what mine always look like

[Deej 77173]

"Why would they make the strings that long if you aren't supposed to use all of them?" - tbone

[Deej 77173]

This is never a problem with vintage-style split shafts. Leo Fender was the best.

[Deej 77173]

Ok, really digging the white binding tape with that red. Plus, I wish Fender would use more of that darker Pau Ferro on their necks. Seen some really light, streaky necks out there.

Edited February 17, 2020 by Deej

[Chad Fuck 17843]

Locking tuners. Ain’t need no wraps!

This is the correct answer for new guitars.

[Buzzrock 15026]

I’ve been using Taylor’s guide for restringing acoustics with good results. They recommend 2-3 wraps on the bass strings and 5-6 wraps for the treble strings. For the low E, A and D, cut the string one post length past the tuning key. For the G, B and high E, cut the string at one and a half post lengths past the tuner. 
https://www.taylorguitars.com/support/strings/changing-steel-strings

Why does it matter?

[AnotherUTFan 9824]

This book told me that my guitar would stay in tune better with 3 wraps and always tuning up to pitch, never down. .

[Deej 77173]

Always tune up to pitch. This is known. 

[tbone_ 14259]

Team up

[Bogeywon 2543]

1956 relic custom shop. 2799.99 used I want it. I came into look at a 1978 Marshall head and it doesn’t work.




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[hullabelew 3724]

23 hours ago, tbone_ said:

I may just do that to for once in my life correctly play the start me up riff into a cranked old fender amp.

Brown Sugar and Can't You Hear Me Knockin' can scratch that itch as well.  

[Chad Fuck 17843]

This book told me that my guitar would stay in tune better with 3 wraps and always tuning up to pitch, never down. .

All hail the holy book!

[Chad Fuck 17843]

Brown Sugar and Can't You Hear Me Knockin' can scratch that itch as well.  

Can’t you hear me knocking it the best Stones guitar song because it’s really two songs. Keef riffs into Taylor solo. The best.

[topochico 1049]

7 hours ago, Bogeywon said:

1956 relic custom shop. 2799.99 used I want it. I came into look at a 1978 Marshall head and it doesn’t work.




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So, how does it sound at home?

[Bogeywon 2543]

2 hours ago, topochico said:

So, how does it sound at home?

Like a dream. I want it bad! I know the sales guy there and he said they will lower the price of it sits soon. If they do I might have to

[Gil Bang 26099]

Do you cats use a winder?  I don't play enough anymore to restring often, but when I did, I found a crank winder dealie helped me do it quicker and cleaner.  

[tbone_ 14259]

My tech guy uses one on a drill.

[Chad Fuck 17843]

Do you cats use a winder?  I don't play enough anymore to restring often, but when I did, I found a crank winder dealie helped me do it quicker and cleaner.  

Can you do it without one?

I’ve always used one.

[jimmyjazz 46476]

I always use a winder.  Most of the time I get too zealous, it slips off, I knock my hand on something sharp and curse my damn luck.

[noharleyyet 2853]

12 hours ago, Bogeywon said:

Like a dream. I want it bad! I know the sales guy there and he said they will lower the price of it sits soon. If they do I might have to

Offer.....do it

[Goredho 17510]

13 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I always use a winder.  Most of the time I get too zealous, it slips off, I knock my hand on something sharp and curse my damn luck.

At the risk of sounding like a stupid newb, how much string-changing value are you getting out of a winder.  I've never used one and don't know what I may be missing.

[Bogeywon 2543]

10 minutes ago, noharleyyet said:

Offer.....do it

They don’t give deals on used gear anymore and I don’t think it has the original case. That’s why I have to wait

[Goredho 17510]

I'm really, really digging my ES-330 right now, which is my first hollow-body guitar.  I've been recording a new song using it exclusively and it has very rich and complex tonality.  Individual notes are more interesting than with my solid body LP.  It may be becoming my favorite of the two, and I *love* the LP.  Others here have a similar experience?

Edited February 19, 2020 by Goredho

[jimmyjazz 46476]

5 minutes ago, Goredho said:

At the risk of sounding like a stupid newb, how much string-changing value are you getting out of a winder.  I've never used one and don't know what I may be missing.

It's just easier on your hands, and quicker.  You can wind a string up 2-3 full turns in a few seconds.

[Goredho 17510]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

It's just easier on your hands, and quicker.  You can wind a string up 2-3 full turns in a few seconds.

Will have to pick one up next time I head to Denver.