The Guitar Pron Thread

[tbone_ 14,181]

Your reverb link didn’t work for me. Regardless, you should buy it.

[Goredho 17,422]

Looks like a cool guitar, @Buzzrock.  I don’t know if $700 is a good deal.

[Foggy Notion 1,202]

5 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

Gooooooot dammit.

Due to the aforementioned expenses I was just coming here to ask the gang if $700 - $750 for this is a good deal. Seems like it is:

https://reverb.com/item/40758611-fender-road-worn-stratocaster-2018-white?utm_source=rev-ios-app&utm_medium=ios-share&utm_campaign=listing&utm_content=40758611

$700 for a nitro finished Fender is a pretty good deal these days. So is $750 when you consider that the new Vintera version of this guitar is now $1199. This one is a 2018 that probably sold for $950 new. This one is the 60s road worn. Should have 7.5 radius with vintage style frets, pau ferro fretboard and Tex-Mex pickups. Fender switched pickups in these in 2019 when it became part of the Vintera line. I’d ask about fret wear which isn’t really visible in the pics. 

[topochico 1,049]

7 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

I ask for feedback on an actual Fender Strat and get nothing, Bogey posts the most hated guitar on Surly and gets covered up in replies. Cmon man!

Wolf music is having 25% off most things sale and 30% off in the store for Father's day. This Vintera 50's Strat is listed at $1099 and is $825 when you add it to your cart. Free shipping. 

Wolf is in Boerne if you are close by you can drop in and take another 5% off. 

https://www.wolfmusiccompany.com/products/fender-vintera®-50s-stratocaster®-maple-fingerboard-sonic-blue?variant=41587441631395

[Buzzrock 14,948]

Definitely not close by but I could pick up that other guitar I linked.

What’s the difference between a 50s and a 60s model? I think it’s the neck. Can someone explain how the difference makes the guitar play and feel?

[topochico 1,049]

Fender changes this up a lot but the 50's has a soft V neck and the 60's has a C shape. Both have a 7.5" radius. The links describe the neck profile

Here is a 60's in Firemist Gold for $900
 

https://www.wolfmusiccompany.com/products/fender-vintera-road-worn-60s-stratocaster-pau-ferro-fb-firemist-gold-1?variant=41581704872099

Edited June 17, 2022 by topochico

[Bogeywon 2,519]

8 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

I ask for feedback on an actual Fender Strat and get nothing, Bogey posts the most hated guitar on Surly and gets covered up in replies. Cmon man!

The power of PRS

[noharleyyet 2,852]

10 hours ago, Deej said:

Ugliest headstock ever. 

 

[Goredho 17,422]

19 minutes ago, topochico said:

Fender changes this up a lot but the 50's has a soft V neck and the 60's has a C shape. Both have a 7.5" radius. The links describe the neck profile

Here is a 60's in Firemist Gold for $900
 

https://www.wolfmusiccompany.com/products/fender-vintera-road-worn-60s-stratocaster-pau-ferro-fb-firemist-gold-1?variant=41581704872099

Mid C neck profile on the 60s will be thinner/smaller than the 50s thick soft V profile.  If you prefer chunkier necks, you will probably like the 50s.  If you don’t, you’ll probably like the 60s.  Only way to know for sure is to play them both, but if you order online without playing I’d use that to decide.

Other diffs neck wise would be maple vs pau ferro (rosewoodish) fretboard.  If you prefer one over the other, that may be important.  I think it’s mostly cosmetic.  At least I’ve played great guitars with both and never thought “if only this had an X fretboard...”

The pickups are different between the models, and I guess aim at a tone from the period that might be slightly different from each other.  I can’t tell you how they might differ, though.  Again, playing side by side would be the way to know.

Unless you live in Marfa, you probably have a music store nearby that sells Vinteras if you want to play 50s vs 60s.  Austin Vintage Guitars sells both, not sure what they have in stock at the moment.

[Buzzrock 14,948]

I guess I should look up what my late 90s American Strat has, I like that.

[Butch Had Not 2,994]

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Fender/Player-Stratocaster-HSS-Pau-Ferro-Fingerboard-Limited-Edition-Electric-Guitar.gc

 

200 off on this MIM STRAT

[AnotherUTFan 9,791]

I just turned around my office / music room / guest bedroom. Moved the mixer near my work desk, the drums & amps to the opposite wall, and had a Murphy bed installed. I have a little shuffling left to do, but the room's big enough to serve as small venue and we can record here. I think im gonna host a house party here in August.

[Goredho 17,422]

That’s sweet as fuck, @AnotherUTFan

[tbone_ 14,181]

Love the green

[Bogeywon 2,519]

19 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

I ask for feedback on an actual Fender Strat and get nothing, Bogey posts the most hated guitar on Surly and gets covered up in replies. Cmon man!

also no idea about the strat but imo:

1. Buy it

2. post pics

3. profit

[Buzzrock 14,948]

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Fender/Player-Stratocaster-HSS-Pau-Ferro-Fingerboard-Limited-Edition-Electric-Guitar.gc
 
200 off on this MIM STRAT

Thanks but can’t do red (see avatar)

[Fastbreak 3,996]

I like the PRS. It actually feels really good for my hand size/shape, but I prefer a real silver sky

[Bogeywon 2,519]

12 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

I like the PRS. It actually feels really good for my hand size/shape, but I prefer a real silver sky

Fact: Leo left his own company because the quality stunk 

 

 

 

 

according to a podcast I listen to 

 

Beautiful guitar! I love them all tbh I really want a custom shop but always buy something else with the money.

Edited June 18, 2022 by Bogeywon

[tbone_ 14,181]

Also fact: Leo invented the damn things so he can copy them all he wants at a different company.

Paul invented his own thing, which is plenty unique and well received. But then for some reason just decided to become a Leo rip off artist.

[Deej 76,946]

3 hours ago, tbone_ said:

But then for some reason just decided to become a Leo rip off artist.

He wanted to expand his customer base to more than just dentists. 

[DougO 5,256]

Almost Dollar Tree NGD day, but I knew it wouldn't pass the Deej test.

 

 

[tbone_ 14,181]

He wanted to expand his customer base to more than just dentists. 

I get it but I don’t hate on his regular stuff. Just his rip-off stuff.

[Deej 76,946]

I actually am not a fan of the way flamey tops on a lot of the regular stuff. I'm actually a fan of some natural flaws showing. 

[hullabelew 3,724]

Even shipped it from France…,

That is Italian.

[tbone_ 14,181]

So I am watching the movie Endless Summer. The surf music in this movie was played by a group called The Sandals. I bought my 1970 Dual Showman head (which apparently was developed for Dick Dale) from The Sanadals drummers’s son off Reverb. Couldn’t have been used in the movie though since it was released in 63. Great tunes in the movie btw. /csb

On a related note, always surprising to me surfers don’t die way more often while surfing.

[dcbc 14,525]

1 hour ago, tbone_ said:

So I am watching the movie Endless Summer. The surf music in this movie was played by a group called The Sandals. I bought my 1970 Dual Showman head (which apparently was developed for Dick Dale) from The Sanadals drummers’s son off Reverb. Couldn’t have been used in the movie though since it was released in 63. Great tunes in the movie btw. /csb

On a related note, always surprising to me surfers don’t die way more often while surfing.

I saw Dick Dale twice at the Satellite Lounge.  What an absolute badass!

[Celery Man 21,003]

Cleaning up one from the back of the closet. Need to get a new selector knob and replace the stupid strap locks I put on it when I was 17. Need to get it a proper setup too.

[Lhorn 4,968]

On 6/16/2022 at 6:33 PM, Deej said:

Ugliest headstock ever. 

Edited June 19, 2022 by Lhorn

[tbone_ 14,181]

Cleaning up one from the back of the closet. Need to get a new selector knob and replace the stupid strap locks I put on it when I was 17. Need to get it a proper setup too.

Damn that’s cool

[Chad Fuck 17,811]

Cleaning up one from the back of the closet. Need to get a new selector knob and replace the stupid strap locks I put on it when I was 17. Need to get it a proper setup too.

Beauty.

[Paul Wesley 3,289]

Nile approves.

 

[Napoleon 8,700]

23 hours ago, tbone_ said:

…Paul invented his own thing, which is plenty unique and well received. But then for some reason just decided to become a Leo rip off artist.

Something is either unique or it isn’t. 

There is no such thing as: “somewhat unique”, “kind of unique”, “really unique”, or “plenty unique”.

Is Paul’s creation unique? or not?

[tbone_ 14,181]

You know what I mean

[dcbc 14,525]

I had the reissue 72 Tele thinline (Japan) when I was in college.  Pretty cool guitar.  The switches and pots were crap though, and I ultimately traded it toward something else, my 1970 335 IIRC. 

[Scooter Monzingo 821]

On 6/18/2022 at 10:28 AM, Bogeywon said:

Fact: Leo left his own company because the quality stunk 

 

 

 

 

according to a podcast I listen to 

 

Beautiful guitar! I love them all tbh I really want a custom shop but always buy something else with the money.

Leo sold Fender because CBS threw ridiculous money at him. 
 

[Superhero 8,845]

On 6/16/2022 at 8:16 PM, Buzzrock said:

I ask for feedback on an actual Fender Strat and get nothing, Bogey posts the most hated guitar on Surly and gets covered up in replies. Cmon man!

People are predisposed to looking at and reacting to train wrecks. 

[Superhero 8,845]

My search for a practice amp is over

[DougO 5,256]

5 hours ago, Superhero said:

My search for a practice amp is over

I have one of the MK-1 versions I got on sale cheap at Guitar Center a few years ago, but it was a GC exclusive sold without the input for MP3 or whatnot. It's a neat amp that growls. It really kicks ass if you can hook it up to a larger speaker, like the 12 cab I have. 

Edited June 20, 2022 by DougO

[Superhero 8,845]

35 minutes ago, DougO said:

I have one of the MK-1 versions I got on sale cheap at Guitar Center a few years ago, but it was a GC exclusive sold without the input for MP3 or whatnot. It's a neat amp that growls. It really kicks ass if you can hook it up to a larger speaker, like the 12 cab I have. 

I wanted it for 2 reasons. 1) To practice at home because the Blues Junior is just too loud; 2) Wanted something lighter to lug to church with me. The BJ is 30 lbs. The Blackstar is 12 lbs. It’s only 1W, but I mix up anyway so I shouldn’t be drowned out.

 

[Deej 76,946]

I had a 1 watt head. It was still loud turned up all the way. 

[Superhero 8,845]

2 hours ago, Superhero said:

I wanted it for 2 reasons. 1) To practice at home because the Blues Junior is just too loud; 2) Wanted something lighter to lug to church with me. The BJ is 30 lbs. The Blackstar is 12 lbs. It’s only 1W, but I mix mic up anyway so I shouldn’t be drowned out.

Oops.

I only replaced them 1-2 years ago, but I think the tubes on my BJ are giving out. I had to crank it more than usual to get any volume. Hopefully it's just a Sunday gremlin (we seem to have them every other week) because tubes are freakin' expensive.

 

1 hour ago, Deej said:

I had a 1 watt head. It was still loud turned up all the way. 

Good. I still want some oomph when the kids aren't around.

[JSB 677]

18 hours ago, Superhero said:

2) Wanted something lighter to lug to church with me.

 

This reminds me of something I've been wondering for a while now. Some of the larger churches around here have a 6 piece band (drums, keys, bass, acoustic, rhythm, lead) plus a few backup singers with them. I feel a little strange asking them this, but are these people paid, or are they just talented members, a mix of both? How does that work? 

[Chad Fuck 17,811]

I wanted it for 2 reasons. 1) To practice at home because the Blues Junior is just too loud; 2) Wanted something lighter to lug to church with me. The BJ is 30 lbs. The Blackstar is 12 lbs. It’s only 1W, but I mix up anyway so I shouldn’t be drowned out.
 

This is funny because I love my Lone Star and I’m hauling it to a gig tonight. But it was 75 lbs and lives upstairs at my house. Im getting tired of hauling it up
and down the stairs.

I’m looking for something in the 30 lb range as a lighter alternative!

[jimmyjazz 46,225]

47 minutes ago, JSB said:

This reminds me of something I've been wondering for a while now. Some of the larger churches around here have a 6 piece band (drums, keys, bass, acoustic, rhythm, lead) plus a few backup singers with them. I feel a little strange asking them this, but are these people paid, or are they just talented members, a mix of both? How does that work? 

I think they often pay ringers who aren't members of the church, but a lot of those folks are just doing it because they want to.

[Celery Man 21,003]

17 hours ago, Superhero said:

Oops.

I only replaced them 1-2 years ago, but I think the tubes on my BJ are giving out. I had to crank it more than usual to get any volume. Hopefully it's just a Sunday gremlin (we seem to have them every other week) because tubes are freakin' expensive.

 

Good. I still want some oomph when the kids aren't around.

i'm sure we've discussed it at some point in here but... yeah man Russia invading Ukraine and becoming an exile state has completely fucked the tube market. I don't think guitarists are being given enough credit for standing in solidarity with Ukraine.

44 minutes ago, JSB said:

This reminds me of something I've been wondering for a while now. Some of the larger churches around here have a 6 piece band (drums, keys, bass, acoustic, rhythm, lead) plus a few backup singers with them. I feel a little strange asking them this, but are these people paid, or are they just talented members, a mix of both? How does that work? 

Bit of both. I played bass in the cross section orchestra at my church when I was a teenager, and apart from the pianist/organist we were all volunteer. At the same time, the leader of the praise band for the youth group and then the more "modern" worship service was Chris Tomlin, who was definitely paid (and I imagine his band was as well, and he's now sold several million records). I'm a member of a local musician's group on Facebook and see a lot of worship band postings - they seem to be a mix of paid and volunteer.

[Deej 76,946]

13 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I think they often pay ringers who aren't members of the church, but a lot of those folks are just doing it because they want to.

TDPRI has an entire forum devoted to worship players. Some very interesting dynamics at play a lot of the time in those situations. 

[Chad Fuck 17,811]

TDPRI has an entire forum devoted to worship players. Some very interesting dynamics at play a lot of the time in those situations. 

What’s the Cliffs version?

[Deej 76,946]

Just lots of bitching about being underappreciated and under-utilized...more bitching about the worship leaders not appreciating their gear and set-ups...like a regular band but with more God. 

Lots of extra guilt from guys over quitting because they should be putting up with shit because they are giving back to God and the congregation....

Edited June 21, 2022 by Deej

[Goredho 17,422]

Notice the ordained headstock

 

[Deej 76,946]

Jesus knows Paul Reed Smith is a blasphemer.