The Guitar Pron Thread

[Deej 76566]

All those early 50's Tele's going to disappear into the hands of collectors, or Joe Bonamassa. Sad.

[Buzzrock 14871]

I’m not greedy, I’ll take the red 80s Strat with the EMGs. 

[tbone_ 14021]

Some of those estimates values seem low to me

[Chad Fuck 17565]

Maybe it's normal, but those estimates look low to me.

That’s what gives people hope enough to bid. It’s going to be two or three times the estimated amounts on most of those.

[Chad Fuck 17565]

To wit: I still get out my Les Paul auction catalog and flip through the pages wistfully.

It took me until noon the first day of his auction to figure out that that one straight off the wall of GC “modernish” looking LP that would go for $2500 or so on the street, but that actually went for $5000 at 9:30am (on a workday no less) before the auction really got going, was my sole shot at owning a Les Paul that had been owned, however fleetingly, by Les Paul. They were all five figures and up after that.

I literally couldn’t afford to buy a box of his nuts.

Yes I said it. Yes they sold them. No, I seriously couldn’t afford them. Like $500 to buy a box of bolts that literally looked like it had gone straight from a shelf at Ace to LPs work bench.

[Buzzrock 14871]

Yeah I expect everything to be five figures and up. I mean it’s David Fucking Gilmour.

[BoomMF 1398]

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[VABuckeye 2472]

Yeah.  I'm pretty stretched out on the third step right now.  Strumming isn't a big deal so far but the patterns are basic.  Piano hands help with that.

[hullabelew 3700]

16 hours ago, VABuckeye said:

Yeah.  I'm pretty stretched out on the third step right now.  Strumming isn't a big deal so far but the patterns are basic.  Piano hands help with that.

One thing I told a buddy years ago who decided to pick up the guitar late in life.....   When you are changing chords, and you don't have the chord 'fingered' correctly, just keep strumming just the same.   He would always stop until he formed the chord, then start strumming again.  Hell, the majority of the time, it will sound perfect anyway, but one you pause the strumming hand, it just slows you down..    If that makes any sense.   

[Chad Fuck 17565]

17 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

Yeah I expect everything to be five figures and up. I mean it’s David Fucking Gilmour.

I think I may sign up and give it a go.  It was fun bidding against guys like Slash last time around.  There are a couple of sleepers in that bunch.

 

[hullabelew 3700]

35 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

I think I may sign up and give it a go.  It was fun bidding against guys like Slash last time around.  There are a couple of sleepers in that bunch.

 

Outstanding!  We need a Gilmour guitar in our group.  

[Chad Fuck 17565]

8 minutes ago, hullabelew said:

Outstanding!  We need a Gilmour guitar in our group.  

If it's anything like LPs auction, then there's little hope.  But I've learned from that experience, so let's see what happens.

 

[VABuckeye 2472]

1 hour ago, hullabelew said:

One thing I told a buddy years ago who decided to pick up the guitar late in life.....   When you are changing chords, and you don't have the chord 'fingered' correctly, just keep strumming just the same.   He would always stop until he formed the chord, then start strumming again.  Hell, the majority of the time, it will sound perfect anyway, but one you pause the strumming hand, it just slows you down..    If that makes any sense.   

Thanks for that advice.  It's funny how quickly I can change from A to D just to do it and ring the chord and how much it slows down when I'm strumming.

[Mojo Hand 4580]

18 minutes ago, hullabelew said:

One thing I told a buddy years ago who decided to pick up the guitar late in life.....   When you are changing chords, and you don't have the chord 'fingered' correctly, just keep strumming just the same.   He would always stop until he formed the chord, then start strumming again.  Hell, the majority of the time, it will sound perfect anyway, but one you pause the strumming hand, it just slows you down..    If that makes any sense.   

100%.   One of the main things I've learned over the years is to be musical above all else.   That means playing within the rhythm.  If your fingers can't keep up, play the whole song slower, but always approach it as a song rather than a dry technical exercise in making chords or fretting specific notes. 

[Chad Fuck 17565]

1 minute ago, Mojo Hand said:

100%.   One of the main things I've learned over the years is to be musical above all else.   That means playing within the rhythm.  If your fingers can't keep up, play the whole song slower, but always approach it as a song rather than a dry technical exercise in making chords or fretting specific notes. 

To echo this sentiment, I think it was Keef who said, "Try to start together, try to finish together, but definitely keep going together in the middle even if you aren't playing the same thing." Or words to those effect.  

If you keep chugging the rhythm while you try to find where you are in the song, you're still playing music.  Maybe badly, but you're still playing.  When you stop to find your chord, well, you've stopped.  Then you're no longer playing music.  

 

[VABuckeye 2472]

Yeah.  I seem to remember from my lab band days that the only people that usually know you fucked something up are you and your band mates.  The audience generally doesn't have a clue.

[noharleyyet 2837]

21 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

To echo this sentiment, I think it was Keef who said, "Try to start together, try to finish together, but definitely keep going together in the middle even if you aren't playing the same thing." Or words to those effect.  

If you keep chugging the rhythm while you try to find where you are in the song, you're still playing music.  Maybe badly, but you're still playing.  When you stop to find your chord, well, you've stopped.  Then you're no longer playing music.  

 

[Chad Fuck 17565]

2 hours ago, noharleyyet said:

My favorite part in that movie is when in the middle of a song Chuck rolls up to Keef and Keef starts violently shaking his head "no."  And then in the after, Keith says that Chuck wanted to modulate, just because, even though they'd never practiced and you'd surprise the 10 other guys on stage.  What a train wreck that would've been.

Edited May 2, 2019 by Chad Fuck

[the idoit 165]

To echo this sentiment, I think it was Keef who said, "Try to start together, try to finish together, but definitely keep going together in the middle even if you aren't playing the same thing." Or words to those effect.  
If you keep chugging the rhythm while you try to find where you are in the song, you're still playing music.  Maybe badly, but you're still playing.  When you stop to find your chord, well, you've stopped.  Then you're no longer playing music.  
 

You’ve perfectly encapsulated my style...

[Deej 76566]

6 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

To echo this sentiment, I think it was Keef who said, "Try to start together, try to finish together, but definitely keep going together in the middle even if you aren't playing the same thing." Or words to those effect.  

If you keep chugging the rhythm while you try to find where you are in the song, you're still playing music.  Maybe badly, but you're still playing.  When you stop to find your chord, well, you've stopped.  Then you're no longer playing music.  

 

When I first started trying to sit in with some buddies, I was a nervous wreck. One of them told me to just turn the amp all the way down to start, and just play away. Nobody would hear me. It made me learn that lesson right away. As I played, I'm watching the guy across from me play, seeing him make little mistakes but powering on through them. Hmmm...still sounds good to me. Up came my amp volume.

[DougO 5239]

What was that advice my guitar gurus pals would tell me when you get lost? Go to D and wait. Something like that.

[hullabelew 3700]

As Todd Snider say, "Just wait...it'll come around again".

[Buzzrock 14871]

If you play a wrong note, play it again. It will look like you did it on purpose.

[Chad Fuck 17565]

If you play a wrong note, play it again. It will look like you did it on purpose.

If you play it three times in a row it’s a blues lick.

[noharleyyet 2837]

[SwanderedTalent 5761]

On 5/2/2019 at 10:41 AM, VABuckeye said:

Yeah.  I seem to remember from my lab band days that the only people that usually know you fucked something up are you and your band mates.  The audience generally doesn't have a clue.

I always thought that was something nice they tell musicians so we don't feel bad when we fuck something up onstage-- I think it's more accurate to say the audience generally doesn't CARE, more than they don't notice

or maybe I am just extremely creative in the mistakes I make, because there is no way my last one didn't get noticed

[tbone_ 14021]

Whether or not a note is wrong is determined by the note you play after it.

[noharleyyet 2837]

58 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Whether or not a note is wrong is determined by the note you play after it.

..yep, you're either back in the parade or on the bridge alone.

[jimmyjazz 45557]

My band played what turned out to be a horrible gig at a local "themed fun run".  For some reason, I got sideways on the chorus of a song and started playing the wrong chord progression.  I realized I was off the first time through and instinctively decided to keep playing the wrong progression throughout the chorus.  After the show, which about 50 people watched, a buddy of mine came up and said "hey, I like how you rewrote that one tune, that was cool".

In general, the audience is going to think you intended to do what you did unless you give them a reason to believe otherwise.

[SwanderedTalent 5761]

2 hours ago, tbone_ said:

Whether or not a note is wrong is determined by the note you play after it.

where does muttering "aw fuck" into the microphone put me?

post script, while that was a cute attempt at humor, I did not do that-- I'm not allowed near a microphone due to a horrible allergy to carrying a tune

Edited May 3, 2019 by SwanderedTalent

[hullabelew 3700]

30 minutes ago, SwanderedTalent said:

while that was a cute attempt at humor, 

I really hope you did this on purpose.  My fucking hero.  

[jimmyjazz 45557]

I've seen a few guys deftly step up to the microphone after a particularly bad note, say "jazz", and move on.  That works too.

[noharleyyet 2837]

The old "we've had several requests but decided to keep playing" usually worked. Well, that and the fact we were embarrassingly cheap...

Edited May 3, 2019 by noharleyyet

[VABuckeye 2472]

38 minutes ago, SwanderedTalent said:

where does muttering "aw fuck" into the microphone put me?

post script, while that was a cute attempt at humor, I did not do that-- I'm not allowed near a microphone due to a horrible allergy to carrying a tune

I remember young me mouthing "I fucked up" to the drummer during a song.  It was all he could do to keep playing.  I think we were about 16.

Edited May 3, 2019 by VABuckeye

[jimmyjazz 45557]

Buddies of mine were in a pretty decent band that gigged some around Austin -- not too far apart from The Hickoids, etc.  Country punk.  The drummer was hilarious and the guitarist and he just did not get along well, although they were ostensibly "friends".  One night the drummer took the stage in a flannel shirt, the band started playing, the guitarist started bitching about something, turned around to yell at said drummer who had disrobed to unveil a hand-scrawled white t-shirt that said "The guitarist licks his balls like a dog".  Things went downhill from there.

[AnotherUTFan 9680]

I have a new song I wrote in the key of E and just wrote a solo for it last week, most of our songs dont have solos but some call for it. Saturday was the 1st practice where I could try the new solo with the band.

Get to practice and we're playing another song with a solo, in the key of A. We're jamming and get to the solo and everything falls apart. I stop it and say let's start over. Get to the solo and it falls apart again. This time I just plow through and it all comes together and we finish it ok.

Afterwards the drummer and bass player are laughing their asses off me. "Dude, we were playing the A song and suddenly you started playing the solo for the E song, so we just followed you and finished with the E song!" As the temporary singer, I didnt even realise I had switched songs halfway through.

Then they decided it was a pretty cool transition and that we should consider integrating those two songs together like that. I haven't listened back to it yet to have a comment.

[tbone_ 14021]

Buddies of mine were in a pretty decent band that gigged some around Austin -- not too far apart from The Hickoids, etc.  Country punk.

Honky?

[jimmyjazz 45557]

1 minute ago, tbone_ said:

 

Honky?

 

Nah, smaller than that.  Good though.

[Buzzrock 14871]

Not sure which I liked better this afternoon, Liz’s skin tight green pants or the gear on stage. Strat, Mustang, ES-Whatever, Tele, Fenders, Matchless...

Good stuff.

[jimmyjazz 45557]

Where was this?  How did she sound?  She was pretty rough around the edges when she first released "Guyville" but I assume she at least became competent.  (Just talking as a live act, I love 2 or 3 of her records.)

[Anton Chigurh 3318]

Where was this?  How did she sound?  She was pretty rough around the edges when she first released "Guyville" but I assume she at least became competent.  (Just talking as a live act, I love 2 or 3 of her records.)

I assumed Shaky Knees and indeed it is. Their lineup is always on point and hasn’t yet become a pop festival like most others have.

[Buzzrock 14871]

Yeah Shaky Knees. Saw her, Face To Face, Oh Sees, Incubus and Tears for Fears yesterday.

 

Liz always had an indie vibe and she still does, kinda garage bandish. I think it’s part of her appeal. She’s never been a top tier singer or guitar player but she writes cool songs. I enjoyed her set.

 

[DougO 5239]

On 5/3/2019 at 11:19 AM, SwanderedTalent said:

I always thought that was something nice they tell musicians so we don't feel bad when we fuck something up onstage-- I think it's more accurate to say the audience generally doesn't CARE, more than they don't notice

or maybe I am just extremely creative in the mistakes I make, because there is no way my last one didn't get noticed

Most of them don't know, they aren't musically inclined, which is why so many shitty bands and artists make a lot of money selling bad music to them.

[VABuckeye 2472]

2 hours ago, DougO said:

which is why so many shitty bands and artists make a lot of money selling bad music to them.

So, you're saying there's hope for my budding career?

[Buzzrock 14871]

I think this young man has a future in this business. Will try to find a pic of the ass whipping triple P90 Flying V.

[Buzzrock 14871]

I’ve seen a few guys the last two days just getting searing tones out of Jazzmasters. That might have to be my next stop on my lifetime tour of not buying a SSS Strat.

[DougO 5239]

8 hours ago, VABuckeye said:

So, you're saying there's hope for my budding career?

If Jack White can make it, so can you.

[Anton Chigurh 3318]

Yeah, but Jack White is awesome.

I get that some don’t like him and that it’s been discussed plenty, but the hate is dumb.

[Deej 76566]

Now, Meg White...

[Grandioso 2592]

$799 on Reverb. Accepts offers. Epiphone SG in bass boat sparkle with upgraded bridge pickup.

Be a badass and buy this. 

https://reverb.com/item/13907161-epiphone-sg-standard-bass-boat-blue-sparkle