The Guitar Pron Thread

[noharleyyet 2837]

15 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

 

GC'd give tree fiddy....

[Chad Fuck 17566]

I often wonder the same thing Chad, with classic cars too.

That’s exactly what I think about classic cars all the time, considering I have one that really belongs to a generation before me. But guys like me enjoy toying with them. On the other hand, that thread isn’t as long it varied in participation as this thread.

[Chad Fuck 17566]

Bunch of gear that will likely never be played again in any useful situation. Sad, really.

George Washington’s axe will never cut down anymore cherry trees. But it’s still George Washington’s axe.

Gilmour would be the first to tell you that there are people out there creating on their own axes right now. The world of guitar players was never going to miss these. Hell, they may serve more as inspirational pieces in a museum somewhere at this point.

[hullabelew 3705]

I just bought a 5420t. I suck as a player.  I'll just toss that out there right off.  But I can comment on build to a degree.  The factory strings wouldn't stay in tune at all. I replaced them with #10 flat wound D'Addarios.  There was a plating problem with the chrome on my front pickup volume knob. Gretsch sent a new one quickly.

But on the left side, where the head stock meets the neck, the binding was sanded through to bare wood then the polyurethane was applied and the guitar was finished and shipped out like that. I don't think anything would be done about that.  Nobody will ever see it.  But I do.

 

Those generally need some work from the factory. Plenty of stuff on www. First will be to replace the factory nut with a bone one. The factory ones are shit. A lot of people glue down the floating bridge as well. Most also suggest putting a roller bridge to help the Bigsby.

 

All are pretty cheap fixes.

 

Then, when you get better, swap out the Blacktop Filtertrons for some TV Jones... And it's off you go.

 

[Buzzrock 14871]

New auction records set for Gibson, Fender, Gretsch, and Martin at the Gilmour auction. $21.5M all in. Cheapest item I saw was an electric mandolin for $32,500.

[BoomMF 1398]

Can only imagine...

[Deej 76568]

1 hour ago, BoomMF said:

Can only imagine...

Yeah, it's been long expected Page's #1 will set the record when the time comes. 

[Handcruser 2805]

65 silver tone. So sweet.




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[jimmyjazz 45560]

15 minutes ago, Deej said:

Yeah, it's been long expected Page's #1 will set the record when the time comes. 

I don't follow this stuff all that much . . . what would be today's expected auction prices for Clapton's "Blackie" (~ $1M in 2005), Jimi Hendrix' Woodstock Strat (~ $1.2M late 90's), Stevie Ray Vaughan's "Number One" Strat, Angus Young's iconic Gibson SG, Chuck Berry's Gibson 335???

I gotta believe the Clapton, Hendrix and SRV guitars would also top Gilmour's auction price.

[DougO 5239]

Eddie is fixin' to be at Dime's grave with a shovel.

[Deej 76568]

24 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I don't follow this stuff all that much . . . what would be today's expected auction prices for Clapton's "Blackie" (~ $1M in 2005), Jimi Hendrix' Woodstock Strat (~ $1.2M late 90's), Stevie Ray Vaughan's "Number One" Strat, Angus Young's iconic Gibson SG, Chuck Berry's Gibson 335???

I gotta believe the Clapton, Hendrix and SRV guitars would also top Gilmour's auction price.

Page also has in his favor a 59 burst. Not a lot of those around. I think the number made in 59 was 643. 

[UTCzech III 2901]

https://www.gearnews.com/david-gilmours-guitars-shatter-records-at-auction-in-new-york/

Jim Irsay the Indianapolis Colts owner picked up three items at the David Gilmour Guitar Collection auction at Christie’s New York salesroom. Turns out he is a huge Pink Floyd fan and so he bought not one, but three items at the auction. Spending a total of $5.245 million on the lot!'
 

A 1969 black Fender Stratocaster known as “The Black Strat” for $3.975 million.

A 1969 Martin D-35 acoustic guitar for $1.095 million. (used to write Wish You Were Here)

The travel case used for “The Black Strat” for $175,000.

[AnotherUTFan 9681]

Here it is, a sampling of what we've been working on.

A year ago this month I started writing songs on my couch, mostly unplugged. Pretty soon I had a cool ass bass player coming over once a week to work on them with me. Then a drummer we were considering found a studio we could afford, so we hired him and moved production to there. Now we have a singer and a complete Rock and Roll band, so it really starts now.

Listen to 6-19-19 By myself.m4a by Racer5 #np on #SoundCloud

Listen to 6-19-19 goodbye.m4a by Racer5 #np on #SoundCloud

Listen to 6-19-19 Mediocre.m4a by Racer5 #np on #SoundCloud

Listen to 6-19-19 paralyzed.m4a by Racer5 #np on #SoundCloud

Listen to 6-19-19 waiting goodbye.m4a by Racer5 #np on #SoundCloud

I should note that Mediocre's lyrics were written by her. The rest by me. There are a few others not as far along. Hopefully we'll be playing live by September and working on a record by Thanksgiving.

Now to name it.

[DougO 5239]

How much for a game used pick?

[AnotherUTFan 9681]

Double post

[Deej 76568]

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[JoseMedinaDeJesus 207]

11 hours ago, hullabelew said:

A lot of people glue down the floating bridge as well. Most also suggest putting a roller bridge to help the Bigsby.

 

Was going to replace the nut and saddle when I have the setup done. That is after I get my acoustic back.

 

As far as the bridge, my bridge is pinned.  Why would I glue a secured bridge?  I'm not being a cunt.  I am honestly asking.

[Pato del Muerto 52342]

On 6/16/2019 at 7:51 AM, hullabelew said:

Looking for a wireless solution for guitar. Both for around the house and also at practice. Looking at the Nady U-1100..... But someone had another setup they really liked.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013AVGMXY/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=wirerealm-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B013AVGMXY&linkId=bd930d42b9187035182978b214be00a9

Saw this as a Facebook ad and thought about your post. Not a rec, obviously. 

https://amposo.com/products/wirelesssystem?fbclid=IwAR0qDQhFJrQYjgUXrZeyapfzhGQ0UlbO9D5SvXQkc-qxyNWKsevvVl4dubM

[VABuckeye 2472]

Just so you fuckers know I haven't given up already.  A couple of vacations are getting in the way but I'm still learning.  As a diversion from chords, finger exercises, scales, etc. I'm working on learning Wish You Were Here which at or near the top of the list of songs that I love.  Perhaps one day I'll master it and dub both parts together and post it.  Don't hold you breath.  It will take quite a while. 

The Taylor 317E is sounding better and better and I'm noticing on some guitar forums that people are loving the Grand Pacific guitars so it would seem that I made a good choice.  I love the resonance of the guitar.  It just sounds good on that rare occasion when I put a few notes together properly.  Learning guitar is the definition of it's a marathon not a sprint.

[Buzzrock 14871]

AUTF I’ll get back to your stuff shortly. But first I wanna say: if I won one of those $100M+ lottery prizes you best believe I’d be raiding those collector auctions. I don’t care about Ferraris and yachts and whatnot but I’d love to create a museum of the great guitars and amps (and be able to play them myself whenever I want). Like a new branch of the Smithsonian.

[Buzzrock 14871]

I’m contractually obligated as a GT fan to be drawn to anything gold/yellow. But I’m not sure what to think of this:

[tbone_ 14025]

The dots on the bottom of the fretboard would fuck with me. But I like the look of the rest of the guitar.

 

 

[Celery Man 20886]

Yeah AUTF - sounds good.  I've been meaning to come back around and give them a more active listen, but I'm jealous.  Nothing's as much fun as doing the whole thing live.

[Buzzrock 14871]

Digging the garage band AUTF. Very reminiscent of 90’s era alt rock to me. The guitar sounds awesome, what’s your rig rundown on those tracks?

[AnotherUTFan 9681]

Thank thank you both. It's still a work in progress getting it tight, but it's a lot of fun working on it. We had a very good practice yesterday. It will come together.

Buzz, base sound is the Les Paul on neck pickup into slight compression, chorus, delay, and reverb into the 50w Plexi jumpered for both channels. For leads I usually add some Shaggy Screamer and flip to bridge pickup, but I think I'm too bright. I've been rolling the tone off from the guitars pot, but still finding it. For the song Waiting I use a Big Muff for the heavy parts and an Octavizer on some or the scale run stuff.

Like I said, it's all a work in progress. It is incredible to hear all these little ideas I had sitting around my apartment grow into full songs. I cant wait till they are finished.

[Celery Man 20886]

1 minute ago, Celery Man said:

Man it is.  Chalk this under one of those songs I never thought to learn

shit, I want that guitar.  xposting to Guitar Pron....

I was posting in the guitar playing thread about this guys YouTube page which I really like (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTCS78UpWHrkHhS2-2oX6ag/videos?disable_polymer=1)

then I was thinking that that's a really cool little budget looking guitar he's playing, but it sounds too nice (maybe got a good one and had it set up well?).  little sleuthing and...

https://www.waterlooguitars.com/wl-14-boot-burst/

how have I not heard of Waterloo Guitars?  Made by Collings in Austin, inspired by vintage guitars of that design.  Not a budget brand (from what I can tell) but lower price point than regular Collings.  For as much as I love my little body Martin, and I've always kinda liked the idea of having a Collings (but not enough to pay the entry fee), I could actually see this being a guitar I go out and get the next time I have a nice bonus or some such thing

https://www.austinvintageguitars.com/store#!/2019-Waterloo-WL-14X-“Boot-Burst”-2996/p/134264950

actually I want to go play this one.  no idea what a 12 fret would even feel like

https://www.austinvintageguitars.com/store#!/2018-Waterloo-WL-12/p/114392007

shit...

[Celery Man 20886]

AUTF -  guitar doesn't necessarily sound too bright to me, but if you're listening to the recordings and obsessing over the sound from that I wouldn't.  I can maybe hear it if you're talking about the leads, but it sounds like you guys mic'd up a room and recorded (and sounds great for that), which isn't necessarily representative of how it would come across in a bigger louder room.  Listened again, sounds good.  Can definitely hear some of the stuff you've been working through.  Jealous there myself, as I've never really been a lyrics guy and would love it if I could tap into some of my stuff instead of just... going on a Jason Isbell thing.

[noharleyyet 2837]

On 6/21/2019 at 5:54 PM, AnotherUTFan said:

Here it is, a sampling of what we've been working on.

A year ago this month I started writing songs on my couch, mostly unplugged. Pretty soon I had a cool ass bass player coming over once a week to work on them with me. Then a drummer we were considering found a studio we could afford, so we hired him and moved production to there. Now we have a singer and a complete Rock and Roll band, so it really starts now.

Listen to 6-19-19 By myself.m4a by Racer5 #np on #SoundCloud

 

Listen to 6-19-19 goodbye.m4a by Racer5 #np on #SoundCloud

 

 

 

Listen to 6-19-19 Mediocre.m4a by Racer5 #np on #SoundCloud

 

 

 

Listen to 6-19-19 paralyzed.m4a by Racer5 #np on #SoundCloud

 

 

 

Listen to 6-19-19 waiting goodbye.m4a by Racer5 #np on #SoundCloud

 

 

 

I should note that Mediocre's lyrics were written by her. The rest by me. There are a few others not as far along. Hopefully we'll be playing live by September and working on a record by Thanksgiving.

Now to name it.

 

..envious. Good work AUTF

[DougO 5239]

Stupid Deal of The Day at MF is the G&L ASAT ash/natural tele type thing for $299.

[tigol 2383]

On 6/23/2019 at 9:58 PM, Celery Man said:

I was posting in the guitar playing thread about this guys YouTube page which I really like (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTCS78UpWHrkHhS2-2oX6ag/videos?disable_polymer=1)

then I was thinking that that's a really cool little budget looking guitar he's playing, but it sounds too nice (maybe got a good one and had it set up well?).  little sleuthing and...

https://www.waterlooguitars.com/wl-14-boot-burst/

how have I not heard of Waterloo Guitars?  Made by Collings in Austin, inspired by vintage guitars of that design.  Not a budget brand (from what I can tell) but lower price point than regular Collings.  For as much as I love my little body Martin, and I've always kinda liked the idea of having a Collings (but not enough to pay the entry fee), I could actually see this being a guitar I go out and get the next time I have a nice bonus or some such thing

https://www.austinvintageguitars.com/store#!/2019-Waterloo-WL-14X-“Boot-Burst”-2996/p/134264950

actually I want to go play this one.  no idea what a 12 fret would even feel like

https://www.austinvintageguitars.com/store#!/2018-Waterloo-WL-12/p/114392007

shit...

Lukas Nelson is a fan.

[Deej 76568]

So Fender is replacing the Classic Series MIM with the Vintera Series, along with a price hike. 

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/search.php?s=vintera

[Mileslong 4715]

Was just going to post this, here is Andy and friends playing them

[DougO 5239]

I can see shitty pau ferro all over that lineup. What a turrble choice.

[Deej 76568]

Yep.

 

[Buzzrock 14871]

What’s wrong with PF?

That Stones jam above is tasty. Fender is tempting me lately. I still don’t have a proper SSS Strat, but the Sixty-Six and that Jazzmaster are talking to me.

I need to take the pick guard off my HH Strat and see how it’s routed. Changing it to a HSS might satisfy my single coil urge.

[Buzzrock 14871]

Question for the group: what are you paying for when you go for a $3,000 American Strat (custom shop or whatever) vs a sub-$1000 MIM Strat?

[Celery Man 20886]

The first $500-1k you spend over the MIM strat you're paying for better components and quality control.  Which may translate into some functional stuff (better tuners) and some cosmetic stuff (wood) and some quality stuff (the guitar stays put together for decades with minimal maintenance).

Above that I would assume you're paying for getting exactly the strat that you wat.  I could envision a world in which I bought a custom shop Fender.  If I did that, it would be because I was getting exactly the color, neck profile, pickups, finish, etc that I wanted.

[Paul Wesley 3277]

6 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

 

Changing it to a HSS might satisfy my single coil urge.

 

I believe I speak for the board when I say, "You'll buy another Strat and like it."

[jimmyjazz 45560]

26 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

The first $500-1k you spend over the MIM strat you're paying for better components and quality control.  Which may translate into some functional stuff (better tuners) and some cosmetic stuff (wood) and some quality stuff (the guitar stays put together for decades with minimal maintenance).

Above that I would assume you're paying for getting exactly the strat that you wat.  I could envision a world in which I bought a custom shop Fender.  If I did that, it would be because I was getting exactly the color, neck profile, pickups, finish, etc that I wanted.

This is exactly the reasoning that leads me to build my own guitars from aftermarket parts.  I have zero doubt I can hit Custom Shop quality at well less than half the price, and that includes a luthier (which I am not) to set the damn thing up. 

If you're looking for your dream tool, and have no interest in resale, there is no good financial or aesthetic reason to buy from Fender.

[VABuckeye 2472]

So you buy the body where?  Do you buy the base Fender and have it modded?  This is interesting although it's a long way out for me.

[Celery Man 20886]

29 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

This is exactly the reasoning that leads me to build my own guitars from aftermarket parts.  I have zero doubt I can hit Custom Shop quality at well less than half the price, and that includes a luthier (which I am not) to set the damn thing up. 

If you're looking for your dream tool, and have no interest in resale, there is no good financial or aesthetic reason to buy from Fender.

 

[jimmyjazz 45560]

1 minute ago, VABuckeye said:

So you buy the body where?  Do you buy the base Fender and have it modded?  This is interesting although it's a long way out for me.

I'm a big fan of Warmoth for the body and (especially) the neck.  After that, it's a smorgasbord of options for everything else.  I'm a fan of Sigler Music because they offer pre-loaded pickguards of almost every imaginable configuration, which means maybe one solder joint left to make (output jack).  Warmoth, Allparts, etc. all sell tons of tuners, bridges, tremolos, pickups, knobs, whatever.  If anyone needs help walking through the process I'll be happy to oblige.

[BoomMF 1398]

A momentary lapse of reason.

 

More on the guitars:

 

Because this is still a story to me, that's why.

Edited June 26, 2019 by BoomMF

[noharleyyet 2837]

Good segment...he gets to the point and stays on topic. Damned interesting...I'm partial to the white strat

[tbone_ 14025]

This is exactly the reasoning that leads me to build my own guitars from aftermarket parts.  I have zero doubt I can hit Custom Shop quality at well less than half the price, and that includes a luthier (which I am not) to set the damn thing up. 
If you're looking for your dream tool, and have no interest in resale, there is no good financial or aesthetic reason to buy from Fender.

Counterpoint: Celery is right on the first $500-1k over MIM. The upshot of what he mentions is that they will stay in tune, play better, and stay setup up better. Another way to achieve custom shop quality is to buy good Am Std (whatever they call that now) and take it to a good tech guy and get the neck planed and frets set perfectly true. Then set up exactly the way you like it. I’ve done this on both my strat and tele and I’d put them up against any custom shop guitar anywhere playability wise. Cost about $500 each.

[SwanderedTalent 5761]

the new Strat is supposed to be arriving today, but it's not here yet

someone should write a song about how the waiting is the hardest part, or something

[AnotherUTFan 9681]

You have to realize that FedEx and UPS drivers recognize guitar boxes and always wait till the end of the day just to fuck with us.

[Deej 76568]

21 minutes ago, AnotherUTFan said:

You have to realize that FedEx and UPS drivers recognize guitar boxes and always wait till the end of the day just to fuck with us.

Or maybe they are being nice and trying to maximize the chance you made it home from work.

(No, they're fucking with you.)

[Buzzrock 14871]

For sure part of the problem is that I don't know what I want. I've played since I was fifteen and can't tell you the difference between a 50s/60s/70s C/V/U neck shape, or what to expect from the umpteen different pickup options out there. I just play things and if I like them I like them. The analysis paralysis of picking the "right" Strat is real, and probably why I don't have one yet (aside from my aforementioned HH, in which case I kinda cheated, it's hard to go wrong with an American Strat with Seymour Duncan '59 and Pearly Gates on board).

[Deej 76568]

I say go find one that feels good. Pickups and electronics can be swapped out, if you find one that is a player. It's hard to go the other direction.