The Guitar Pron Thread

[Deej 76301]

11 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

Shit man, sorry to hear about the divorce.

Sorry? Hell, he may end up with a bachelor pad/ studio above a bar in San Francisco. 

Just ask AUTF.

[tbone_ 14016]

Thanks. Scottsdale, but yea maybe

[AnotherUTFan 9613]

Ya man. Good luck tbone, I had no idea. Hope it was a good thing. It gets better.

[Napoleon 8586]

11 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

Did you ship any of them? I’m curious what that costs. I haven’t had a nibble on the FFTH since the initial guy (bailed) but I only have it listed on Fb Marketplace.

 

I shipped all of them. 

I sold them all via eBay and I was surprised how easy and moderately priced it was. 

If you ship them in the guitar box west of the Mississippi River, the cost is usually about $18 via FedEx Ground if you set it up through eBay, but that only covers $100 worth of insurance. To cover the rest, it is about $3 to $4 for a guitar that sells for between $150 and $250. 

If it crosses the Mississippi, it is a little more. 

I charged a $39.99 flat fee for the new guitars and $29.99 for the used ones. I bought new packing tape and some bubble wrap and found some styrofoam and yada-yada-yada to cover some of the costs, plus printing the slip and driving the item to the FedEx office. 

For the 338, I went to town on adding additional padding all over the box and supporting the neck, because those things were packed like shit. Stevie Wonder could have packed the 338s better than the factory in China did. The LPs & DCD came with a fitted styrofoam base and top, but I still added some bubble wrap and added a layer of cardboard in areas that had been pierced by UPS’s shit-tastic shipping matchines and delivery personnel. For the FFTH, I found a different guitar box and then taped the guitar to a separate piece of cardboard over padding (of course you don’t tape a guitar) and then slid that piece into the box with padding underneath it as well. 

Guitar Center and other guitar shops (Sam Ash...) will likely have empty boxes in the back of you need one. 

[Napoleon 8586]

On 8/31/2020 at 10:34 AM, tbone_ said:

Re: FF338s

Man, I have tried but I just cannot wrap my brain around a $150 guitar not being a pos.

The guitars are comparable to a $300 to $400 guitar, but...

1) They sell direct (Or through Amazon), so there’s no store markup. 

2) They are relatively new, so have to sell for less than what a comparable guitar would cost wholesale. 

3) Their advertising consists of sending a guitar to a YouTube reviewer, or even one of their fans sending one to Canada for Darrell Brown to review, because they don’t even ship out of the US. They have ZERO marketing budget. 

So for now, they make some guitars in a slave labor factory in China, ship them to the USA, sell them out, and then pay for another order of guitars. Their “planner focus group research“ consists of having one of the Facebook group’s moderators asking:

”What new colors would you like to see?” ...or...

”What classic style would you like to see Firebird Music produce next?”

And then someone in California and/or China reads the responses and does a cost analysis to see if that is what they want to do next. 

Sometimes they go a little cheap with a component, because everyone plans to upgrade them anyway, but then maybe next time they upgrade the component in China and charge a bit more for the guitar. 

Edited September 2, 2020 by Napoleon

[Buzzrock 14790]

Sorry? Hell, he may end up with a bachelor pad/ studio above a bar in San Francisco. 
Just ask AUTF.

I don’t have to ask him: I was there earlier this year!

[tbone_ 14016]

Hulla - here’s some pics

 

 

 

 

Vocals go through the TC Helicons. I don’t really use the doubler or the echo, but they have really good Reverb, slight compression, and de-essing. Use a little bit of pitch correct, seems to smooth things about a bit.

 

Guitar goes into the eq and the Venue DI. I use the mixer Reverb for the guitar but not the vocals. Then all of it into the mixer and to the QSC (which is fucking phenomenal btw).

 

People continually remark how good the sound is when we play. Which imo is half the battle in doing what we do. Some guy that used to tour with Bonnie Raitt even gave us a compliment the other night on it. I hear so many systems like this that sound like shit including most of the open mics I played. It’s not hard and all of that stuff is pretty cheap, except for the QSC.

 

 

[AnotherUTFan 9613]

Shuffleboard AND Pinball.

How many watts is that QSC? I'm trying to figure out what I'm gonna do for vocals in my apartment setup. Right now I'm just plugging a mic into a guitar amp. It works for now since we havent written any lyrics.

[tbone_ 14016]

I think something stupid like 2,000. Doesn’t matter. What matters is it’s clarity. It’s insane. But plenty loud. There are others that are as loud but not as clear for less. This one was like $8-900 I think.

[dcbc 14355]

On 8/31/2020 at 5:41 PM, AnotherUTFan said:

I installed the Pure Vintage 64 pups in my Telecaster last night. I was stoked with its new sound when I cranked it this morning, until I plugged that Squire in. That Squire still sounds night and day better. I think I'll be pulling the Squire apart to find out whats inside. I actually prefer the neck on the Squire too.

I've got an AV 64 and really like the pickups (I assume they're the same).  Perfect amount of tele chime/twang.  I had the C/S twisted tele pickups in my AV 52 and didn't care for them.  Swapped for the C/S 51 Nocaster pickups and am much happier.  But somehow, the ones in my '90 Tele have their own special thing going.  88--90 (before the new factory went online) is a special, underrated era of Fender guitars.  Hand picked woods, basically hand built instruments, and really great sounding pickups.

[noharleyyet 2827]

Saw on Reverb.....64 Trini Lopez ES  Reissue...can't like the diamond holes and headstock

Edited September 3, 2020 by noharleyyet

[Chad Fuck 17430]

1 hour ago, noharleyyet said:

Saw on Reverb.....64 Trini Lopez ES  Reissue...can't like the diamond holes and headstock

Would.

 

[Deej 76301]

The rug really ties the room together. 

[Buzzrock 14790]

TC Helicon makes some cool shit. They have one pedal that listens to your guitar and auto pitch corrects you to whatever key you’re in.

[Deej 76301]

8 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

TC Helicon makes some cool shit. They have one pedal that listens to your guitar and auto pitch corrects you to whatever key you’re in.

I'm willing to bet my shitty playing could fool it. 

[tbone_ 14016]

TC Helicon makes some cool shit. They have one pedal that listens to your guitar and auto pitch corrects you to whatever key you’re in.

I have that. Mine is called Play Acoustic Live or something like that. Used it for a while but the LR Baggs di sounds better for the guitar.

[Lhorn 4863]

I'm willing to bet my shitty playing could fool it. 

I’d also need it to correct for fret buzz, strings not muted like they should be and strings accidentally muted when they’re not supposed to be.

[Deej 76301]

Is this the thread where y'all don't talk me out of a '57 Champ Reissue, or do I need to go to the amp thread?

[Celery Man 20814]

16 minutes ago, Deej said:

Is this the thread where y'all don't talk me out of a '57 Champ Reissue, or do I need to go to the amp thread?

i don't know if you can handle that much tone. better not.

[DougO 5238]

Fecebook today...

 

 

[Buzzrock 14790]

NGD



Plays the best of any of them so far straight out of the box, but still needs new strings and the fret board oiled. Makes me wanna learn some Kings of Leon songs.

I need more guitar straps.

[Napoleon 8586]

2 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

NGD



Plays the best of any of them so far straight out of the box, but still needs new strings and the fret board oiled. Makes me wanna learn some Kings of Leon songs.

I need more guitar straps.

Are you planning on taking the plastic off of the pickups?

[Paul Wesley 3273]

20 hours ago, Deej said:

Is this the thread where y'all don't talk me out of a '57 Champ Reissue, or do I need to go to the amp thread?

I won't talk you out of it on whichever thread you prefer.

[Paul Wesley 3273]

2 hours ago, DougO said:

Fecebook today...

 

 

Wow.  Spitting image.

[Buzzrock 14790]

Are you planning on taking the plastic off of the pickups?

As soon as I’m sure I like it.

[Deej 76301]

1 hour ago, Napoleon said:

Are you planning on taking the plastic off of the pickups?

Is it vintage plastic? If so, I'd leave it on. 

[dcbc 14355]

1 hour ago, Paul Wesley said:

I won't talk you out of it on whichever thread you prefer.

@Deej I'll talk you out of it in favor of a Harvard (5f10) in a 1x12 configuration from a good builder (Fender hasn't reissued that one) instead.  Just one more knob than the Champ and 'bout 11(t)350 times better.

Edited September 4, 2020 by dcbc

[Deej 76301]

[dcbc 14355]

2 minutes ago, Deej said:

I gots me 5 tweed amp era type amps plus a 73 DR.  You're speaking my language. 

Family portrait (minus the Harvard, which arrived later).

 

The Ha'va'd

 

 

 

[Deej 76301]

Just now, dcbc said:

 

 

[dcbc 14355]

2 minutes ago, Deej said:

 

 

P.S.  Magic 5e3, Lil Dawg 5f10, Clark 5f4, Fender C/S Low Power Twin (5e8-A), and Victoria Bassman (5f6-A).

Edited September 4, 2020 by dcbc

[Napoleon 8586]

6 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

Re: Removing plastic from pickups
As soon as I’m sure I like it.

I never took the plastic off mine and ultimately sold them all. I might buy one in the future, but not sure. 

Edited September 5, 2020 by Napoleon

[DougO 5238]

 

 

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[jimmyjazz 45325]

That's not a bad deal at all.  Nice looking guitar, too.

[DougO 5238]

I love the color. Really wish I had it in a Tele, though i don't need either.

[AnotherUTFan 9613]

If it was a Tele I'd be all over it.

[Buzzrock 14790]

Need ain’t got nothin to do with it.

I don’t think I have a single guitar with a maple fretboard. What’s the difference in playing and sound?

[Deej 76301]

I prefer maple. Mainly because I'm lazy and I just have to clean them and not oil them.

Supposedly, maple provides a bit brighter tone. 

[Celery Man 20814]

are we supposed to be oiling and cleaning our fretboards?

isn't this how you get the funk?

[jimmyjazz 45325]

To me, while maple is a bit brighter sounding, it's also "stickier".  

It's also harder to refret, to the point where some guys won't even try it.

[noharleyyet 2827]

On 9/4/2020 at 6:53 PM, dcbc said:

I gots me 5 tweed amp era type amps plus a 73 DR.  You're speaking my language. 

Family portrait (minus the Harvard, which arrived later).

 

The Ha'va'd

 

 

 

Tweed, do want.

[noharleyyet 2827]

[DougO 5238]

Stupid deal of the hour today at musiciansfriend. Right now it's those Hercules wall hangers again, but can be had at the sale price all day if you put it in your cart.

[Bogeywon 2518]

Only 140 days till new rickenbacker day

[Buzzrock 14790]

To me, while maple is a bit brighter sounding, it's also "stickier".  
It's also harder to refret, to the point where some guys won't even try it.

Yeah I like the “dryness” of rosewood and its cousins.

[DougO 5238]

I tend to prefer rosewood, but I like maple just fine if the fretboard isn't lacquered and glossy, which makes it feel sticky to my fingers. Pau Ferro usually looks like a turd. Some body combos look better with rosewood, some with maple. I think the tone difference is mostly imaginary.

[BrickHorn 18131]

20 minutes ago, DougO said:

I think the tone difference is mostly imaginary.

[jimmyjazz 45325]

19 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Oh no, you released the Kraaken.

[AnotherUTFan 9613]

BrickHorn! Seems like a while since you've posted here. Welcome back.

[Buzzrock 14790]

I love that that’s how Brick makes his return.