The Guitar Pron Thread

[Deej 77810]

11 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

Shit man, sorry to hear about the divorce.

Sorry? Hell, he may end up with a bachelor pad/ studio above a bar in San Francisco. 

Just ask AUTF.

[tbone_ 14438]

Thanks. Scottsdale, but yea maybe

[AnotherUTFan 9981]

Ya man. Good luck tbone, I had no idea. Hope it was a good thing. It gets better.

[Napoleon 8828]

11 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

Did you ship any of them? I’m curious what that costs. I haven’t had a nibble on the FFTH since the initial guy (bailed) but I only have it listed on Fb Marketplace.

 

I shipped all of them. 

I sold them all via eBay and I was surprised how easy and moderately priced it was. 

If you ship them in the guitar box west of the Mississippi River, the cost is usually about $18 via FedEx Ground if you set it up through eBay, but that only covers $100 worth of insurance. To cover the rest, it is about $3 to $4 for a guitar that sells for between $150 and $250. 

If it crosses the Mississippi, it is a little more. 

I charged a $39.99 flat fee for the new guitars and $29.99 for the used ones. I bought new packing tape and some bubble wrap and found some styrofoam and yada-yada-yada to cover some of the costs, plus printing the slip and driving the item to the FedEx office. 

For the 338, I went to town on adding additional padding all over the box and supporting the neck, because those things were packed like shit. Stevie Wonder could have packed the 338s better than the factory in China did. The LPs & DCD came with a fitted styrofoam base and top, but I still added some bubble wrap and added a layer of cardboard in areas that had been pierced by UPS’s shit-tastic shipping matchines and delivery personnel. For the FFTH, I found a different guitar box and then taped the guitar to a separate piece of cardboard over padding (of course you don’t tape a guitar) and then slid that piece into the box with padding underneath it as well. 

Guitar Center and other guitar shops (Sam Ash...) will likely have empty boxes in the back of you need one. 

[Napoleon 8828]

On 8/31/2020 at 10:34 AM, tbone_ said:

Re: FF338s

Man, I have tried but I just cannot wrap my brain around a $150 guitar not being a pos.

The guitars are comparable to a $300 to $400 guitar, but...

1) They sell direct (Or through Amazon), so there’s no store markup. 

2) They are relatively new, so have to sell for less than what a comparable guitar would cost wholesale. 

3) Their advertising consists of sending a guitar to a YouTube reviewer, or even one of their fans sending one to Canada for Darrell Brown to review, because they don’t even ship out of the US. They have ZERO marketing budget. 

So for now, they make some guitars in a slave labor factory in China, ship them to the USA, sell them out, and then pay for another order of guitars. Their “planner focus group research“ consists of having one of the Facebook group’s moderators asking:

”What new colors would you like to see?” ...or...

”What classic style would you like to see Firebird Music produce next?”

And then someone in California and/or China reads the responses and does a cost analysis to see if that is what they want to do next. 

Sometimes they go a little cheap with a component, because everyone plans to upgrade them anyway, but then maybe next time they upgrade the component in China and charge a bit more for the guitar. 

Edited September 2, 2020 by Napoleon

[Buzzrock 15136]

Sorry? Hell, he may end up with a bachelor pad/ studio above a bar in San Francisco. 
Just ask AUTF.

I don’t have to ask him: I was there earlier this year!

[tbone_ 14438]

Hulla - here’s some pics

 

 

 

 

Vocals go through the TC Helicons. I don’t really use the doubler or the echo, but they have really good Reverb, slight compression, and de-essing. Use a little bit of pitch correct, seems to smooth things about a bit.

 

Guitar goes into the eq and the Venue DI. I use the mixer Reverb for the guitar but not the vocals. Then all of it into the mixer and to the QSC (which is fucking phenomenal btw).

 

People continually remark how good the sound is when we play. Which imo is half the battle in doing what we do. Some guy that used to tour with Bonnie Raitt even gave us a compliment the other night on it. I hear so many systems like this that sound like shit including most of the open mics I played. It’s not hard and all of that stuff is pretty cheap, except for the QSC.

 

 

[AnotherUTFan 9981]

Shuffleboard AND Pinball.

How many watts is that QSC? I'm trying to figure out what I'm gonna do for vocals in my apartment setup. Right now I'm just plugging a mic into a guitar amp. It works for now since we havent written any lyrics.

[tbone_ 14438]

I think something stupid like 2,000. Doesn’t matter. What matters is it’s clarity. It’s insane. But plenty loud. There are others that are as loud but not as clear for less. This one was like $8-900 I think.

[dcbc 14644]

On 8/31/2020 at 5:41 PM, AnotherUTFan said:

I installed the Pure Vintage 64 pups in my Telecaster last night. I was stoked with its new sound when I cranked it this morning, until I plugged that Squire in. That Squire still sounds night and day better. I think I'll be pulling the Squire apart to find out whats inside. I actually prefer the neck on the Squire too.

I've got an AV 64 and really like the pickups (I assume they're the same).  Perfect amount of tele chime/twang.  I had the C/S twisted tele pickups in my AV 52 and didn't care for them.  Swapped for the C/S 51 Nocaster pickups and am much happier.  But somehow, the ones in my '90 Tele have their own special thing going.  88--90 (before the new factory went online) is a special, underrated era of Fender guitars.  Hand picked woods, basically hand built instruments, and really great sounding pickups.

[noharleyyet 2864]

Saw on Reverb.....64 Trini Lopez ES  Reissue...can't like the diamond holes and headstock

Edited September 3, 2020 by noharleyyet

[Chad Fuck 18134]

1 hour ago, noharleyyet said:

Saw on Reverb.....64 Trini Lopez ES  Reissue...can't like the diamond holes and headstock

Would.

 

[Deej 77810]

The rug really ties the room together. 

[Buzzrock 15136]

TC Helicon makes some cool shit. They have one pedal that listens to your guitar and auto pitch corrects you to whatever key you’re in.

[Deej 77810]

8 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

TC Helicon makes some cool shit. They have one pedal that listens to your guitar and auto pitch corrects you to whatever key you’re in.

I'm willing to bet my shitty playing could fool it. 

[tbone_ 14438]

TC Helicon makes some cool shit. They have one pedal that listens to your guitar and auto pitch corrects you to whatever key you’re in.

I have that. Mine is called Play Acoustic Live or something like that. Used it for a while but the LR Baggs di sounds better for the guitar.

[Lhorn 5090]

I'm willing to bet my shitty playing could fool it. 

I’d also need it to correct for fret buzz, strings not muted like they should be and strings accidentally muted when they’re not supposed to be.

[Deej 77810]

Is this the thread where y'all don't talk me out of a '57 Champ Reissue, or do I need to go to the amp thread?

[Celery Man 21094]

16 minutes ago, Deej said:

Is this the thread where y'all don't talk me out of a '57 Champ Reissue, or do I need to go to the amp thread?

i don't know if you can handle that much tone. better not.

[DougO 5264]

Fecebook today...

 

 

[Buzzrock 15136]

NGD



Plays the best of any of them so far straight out of the box, but still needs new strings and the fret board oiled. Makes me wanna learn some Kings of Leon songs.

I need more guitar straps.

[Napoleon 8828]

2 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

NGD



Plays the best of any of them so far straight out of the box, but still needs new strings and the fret board oiled. Makes me wanna learn some Kings of Leon songs.

I need more guitar straps.

Are you planning on taking the plastic off of the pickups?

[Paul Wesley 3313]

20 hours ago, Deej said:

Is this the thread where y'all don't talk me out of a '57 Champ Reissue, or do I need to go to the amp thread?

I won't talk you out of it on whichever thread you prefer.

[Paul Wesley 3313]

2 hours ago, DougO said:

Fecebook today...

 

 

Wow.  Spitting image.

[Buzzrock 15136]

Are you planning on taking the plastic off of the pickups?

As soon as I’m sure I like it.

[Deej 77810]

1 hour ago, Napoleon said:

Are you planning on taking the plastic off of the pickups?

Is it vintage plastic? If so, I'd leave it on. 

[dcbc 14644]

1 hour ago, Paul Wesley said:

I won't talk you out of it on whichever thread you prefer.

@Deej I'll talk you out of it in favor of a Harvard (5f10) in a 1x12 configuration from a good builder (Fender hasn't reissued that one) instead.  Just one more knob than the Champ and 'bout 11(t)350 times better.

Edited September 4, 2020 by dcbc

[Deej 77810]

[dcbc 14644]

2 minutes ago, Deej said:

I gots me 5 tweed amp era type amps plus a 73 DR.  You're speaking my language. 

Family portrait (minus the Harvard, which arrived later).

 

The Ha'va'd

 

 

 

[Deej 77810]

Just now, dcbc said:

 

 

[dcbc 14644]

2 minutes ago, Deej said:

 

 

P.S.  Magic 5e3, Lil Dawg 5f10, Clark 5f4, Fender C/S Low Power Twin (5e8-A), and Victoria Bassman (5f6-A).

Edited September 4, 2020 by dcbc

[Napoleon 8828]

6 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

Re: Removing plastic from pickups
As soon as I’m sure I like it.

I never took the plastic off mine and ultimately sold them all. I might buy one in the future, but not sure. 

Edited September 5, 2020 by Napoleon

[DougO 5264]

 

 

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[jimmyjazz 47133]

That's not a bad deal at all.  Nice looking guitar, too.

[DougO 5264]

I love the color. Really wish I had it in a Tele, though i don't need either.

[AnotherUTFan 9981]

If it was a Tele I'd be all over it.

[Buzzrock 15136]

Need ain’t got nothin to do with it.

I don’t think I have a single guitar with a maple fretboard. What’s the difference in playing and sound?

[Deej 77810]

I prefer maple. Mainly because I'm lazy and I just have to clean them and not oil them.

Supposedly, maple provides a bit brighter tone. 

[Celery Man 21094]

are we supposed to be oiling and cleaning our fretboards?

isn't this how you get the funk?

[jimmyjazz 47133]

To me, while maple is a bit brighter sounding, it's also "stickier".  

It's also harder to refret, to the point where some guys won't even try it.

[noharleyyet 2864]

On 9/4/2020 at 6:53 PM, dcbc said:

I gots me 5 tweed amp era type amps plus a 73 DR.  You're speaking my language. 

Family portrait (minus the Harvard, which arrived later).

 

The Ha'va'd

 

 

 

Tweed, do want.

[noharleyyet 2864]

[DougO 5264]

Stupid deal of the hour today at musiciansfriend. Right now it's those Hercules wall hangers again, but can be had at the sale price all day if you put it in your cart.

[Bogeywon 2548]

Only 140 days till new rickenbacker day

[Buzzrock 15136]

To me, while maple is a bit brighter sounding, it's also "stickier".  
It's also harder to refret, to the point where some guys won't even try it.

Yeah I like the “dryness” of rosewood and its cousins.

[DougO 5264]

I tend to prefer rosewood, but I like maple just fine if the fretboard isn't lacquered and glossy, which makes it feel sticky to my fingers. Pau Ferro usually looks like a turd. Some body combos look better with rosewood, some with maple. I think the tone difference is mostly imaginary.

[BrickHorn 18447]

20 minutes ago, DougO said:

I think the tone difference is mostly imaginary.

[jimmyjazz 47133]

19 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Oh no, you released the Kraaken.

[AnotherUTFan 9981]

BrickHorn! Seems like a while since you've posted here. Welcome back.

[Buzzrock 15136]

I love that that’s how Brick makes his return.