The Guitar Pron Thread

[Goredho 17,247]

1 minute ago, Chad Fuck said:

I have a friend I’ve been playing music and checking out guitars with since 6th grade. He’s like a savant. I think he’s on the spectrum. First he traded records until he built his perfect collection. He got tired of that and now he’s doing guitars. I’ve posted pics of his stuff here before. Anyhow, when he says, “You want in on this deal?” I jump. Hoping he gets into real estate eventually. He just has the knack to find and make deals.

BZZZZT!  Correct answer was Jimmy Page.

[Chad Fuck 17,415]

BZZZZT!  Correct answer was Jimmy Page.

Yep. My first guitar hero

[Deej 76,291]

1 hour ago, Chad Fuck said:

So soon to be NGD for me.  My buddy and I just won an auction on these two.  He's taking the one on the left, I'm taking the one on the right.  

Have I told you how much I hate you, lately?

[Chad Fuck 17,415]

Have I told you how much I hate you, lately?

But you already have a fancy flame LP. And a Marshall. I don’t yet have a Marshall.

[Celery Man 20,809]

this one is yours right? Man that's a good one. A fucking good one. I would love to see how the burst looks as you move the guitar around in the light. I love the grain + the flame. Badass. You should put some klusons on it though.

[Deej 76,291]

28 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

That sure is pretty. 

[Chad Fuck 17,415]

this one is yours right? Man that's a good one. A fucking good one. I would love to see how the burst looks as you move the guitar around in the light. I love the grain + the flame. Badass. You should put some klusons on it though.

Thanks Celery. Original Klusons come with it. I’ll see how I like the Grovers before making any changes. I mean, if they were good enough for Jimmy...

[topochico 1,048]

18 hours ago, Goredho said:

BZZZZT!  Correct answer was Jimmy Page.

"If I played guitar, I'd be Jimmy Page. The girlies I like are......." Well, this song did not age well.

Seriously, that is an amazing guitar Chad. I think you go the better of the two by far. We will need a lot of NGD pics once it arrives. 

Edited March 13, 2021 by topochico

[AnotherUTFan 9,606]

Whats the details on this one Chad? Sure is a good looker.

[Chad Fuck 17,415]

2 minutes ago, AnotherUTFan said:

Whats the details on this one Chad? Sure is a good looker.

2001 Gibson Custom Shop R8.  So it has the fatter neck.  It has Grovers instead of original Klusons and has "new pots."  Not sure what "new pots" means specifically - but it doesn't really matter because all the original bits come with it.  I'm pondering dropping a Jimmy Page wiring harness into it anyhow, as that's a fairly inexpensive mod.  But it may be that's what "new pots" means.  I don't know, but the guy was auctioning off the two LPs for way less than you could get them individually. And my buddy is going to pick them up in person for cash.  So we avoided tax and shipping which was not insignificant.  That's what sold me on the deal. I wasn't in the market for a retail LP right now.  But one that's something like $5-600 cheaper than I can find anywhere else?  And it already has the depreciation taken off of it for modding, but comes with all the original bits and case candy?  Man, that was just too good not to take the chance.  

[AnotherUTFan 9,606]

Mine's a 2014 R8. I love the fat neck so much amI built a Twlecaster with a similar one. Congrats. Can't wait to hear your review.

Reminds me, I need to take mine out. Its been a minute.

[Chad Fuck 17,415]

Just now, AnotherUTFan said:

Mine's a 2014 R8. I love the fat neck so much amI built a Twlecaster with a similar one. Congrats. Can't wait to hear your review.

Reminds me, I need to take mine out. Its been a minute.

Post pics when you do.  Refresh our recollection.  

[jimmyjazz 45,319]

7 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

But you already have a fancy flame LP. And a Marshall. I don’t yet have a Marshall.

How does a guy named Chad Fuck own a LP but not a Marshall?  That ain't right, man.

[tbone_ 14,016]

Agreed. Plus that thing needs to be strung correctly.

[Chad Fuck 17,415]

55 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

How does a guy named Chad Fuck own a LP but not a Marshall?  That ain't right, man.

Two LPs and one on the way.  Can't wait to take that family portrait.  What can I say?  Life takes us down crazy paths.  

Up until now I've always played Fender amps and put pedals in front of them.  But some talk about Mesas (specifically the Electrodyne) on one of the other threads, has me on the look out for a good one.  But they're quite expensive.  And every time I start thinking about new amps...seems like a guitar deal I can't pass up happens.  

[Chad Fuck 17,415]

53 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Agreed. Plus that thing needs to be strung correctly.

I take it you're an around the tailpiece guy?  

[jimmyjazz 45,319]

3 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

I take it you're an around the tailpiece guy?  

Looks strung correctly to me.

[Chad Fuck 17,415]

Just now, jimmyjazz said:

Looks strung correctly to me.

There's this whole this side/that side thing in the LP world about stringing straight through the tailpiece, or wrapped around the tailpiece.  Last time I took my R6 to get set up, the fella did the over the tailpiece method.  It seems easier to bend now.  Maybe that's just me.  My Custom, taken to a different luthier, is set up with the straight through method and seems not noticeably different.  

Anyhow, while you're pondering that, I found this while looking to see whether Jimmy Page did the over or through method.  Pretty interesting article.  One day I hope to have such problems.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/1959-gibson-les-paul-guitar-real-or-fake-jimmy-page-slash-cheap-trick-nashville-11594412649

 

[jimmyjazz 45,319]

I do have to admit that I've spent the lion's share of my life on Fender-esque electrics, but still, my acoustics are all strung the way you show.

Got an image of the alternative?  

[tbone_ 14,016]

I take it you're an around the tailpiece guy?  

Yep. I wasn’t until I was. Has a better feel to me. My setup guy says better angle to the bridge that way. That’s why it bends easier.

Re: the electradyne, I love mine. Best amp I’ve ever played straight through. Needs no pedals to my ear. I bought a head off Reverb actually from the Mesa store on Sunset blvd for like $800. Bargain compared to what one could spend on amps these days. It is loud AF though.

[Chad Fuck 17,415]

4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I do have to admit that I've spent the lion's share of my life on Fender-esque electrics, but still, my acoustics are all strung the way you show.

Got an image of the alternative?  

https://www.seymourduncan.com/blog/tips-and-tricks/string-theory-what-is-top-wrapping

[jimmyjazz 45,319]

Oh, well fuck me running.  I completely missed "tailpiece".  I was looking at the tuning knobs.  Carry on.

[Chad Fuck 17,415]

1 minute ago, tbone_ said:

Yep. I wasn’t until I was. Has a better feel to me.

Re: the electradyne, I love mine. Best amp I’ve ever played straight through. Needs no pedals to my ear. I bought a head off Reverb actually from the Mesa store on Sunset blvd for like $800. Bargain compared to what one could spend on amps these days. It is loud AF though.

I saw a 1x12 for $800 and I balked.  $800 for a 1x12?  Then I haven't seen one since for less than $1200.  Haven't been playing a lot of guitar gigs lately, so I haven't been overly motivated to freshen up or get a new rig.  Though apparently that doesn't stop me from buying guitars?

[tbone_ 14,016]

Couple on reverb now for $1,100.

I went with the head which was harder to find because combos are too heavy. Plus I can use various heads with one cabinet.

If you can ever find a studio .22 caliber + head with the 5 band eq, I’d highly recommend that too. I have one and it’s awesome. 22 watts. Still loud af but very easy to carry. I just use the clean side with pedals.

[AnotherUTFan 9,606]

I wrapped my around the tail piece on my Les Paul years ago, but there's not big enough difference to do the same to my other Gibsons, and not enough to swap it back on the LP.

The break angle will effect how the strings feel, ie bendiness, but you can adjust that more precisely stringing through the stop piece normally and adjusting the height with the big screws on either end of the stop bar; that's why they are screws.

Billy Gibbons claims more tone with the stop screwed all the way down against the body, requiring the wrap - but my ears don't hear it.

None of the experts at Gibson over all these years have seen enough benefit in the wrap technique to ship them that way.

[tbone_ 14,016]

None of the experts at Gibson over all these years have seen enough benefit in the wrap technique to ship them that way.

They may be experts but they ain’t the Reverend!

[Chad Fuck 17,415]

10 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

 

They may be experts but they ain’t the Reverend!

 

This is true and they know they're going to sell X numbers of Les Pauls wrapped around or through.  Don't make no difference to them.

[AnotherUTFan 9,606]

Ok. None of the experts at Collins or any of the other builders.

I think im like Brick Horn with tone wood on this one. Its fine if you do it, I have one like that. It just doesn't make a difference imo.

I do believe in tone wood though.

[tbone_ 14,016]

I actually agree with you on the tone, I don’t hear it. But I do feel the slinkiness.

[Deej 76,291]

Speaking of stringing, I love Fender split-shaft tuners. Easiest things to string ever.

I discovered they make three-on-a-side split-shafts. Some more research and my Gibby may be getting new tuners. 

[Chad Fuck 17,415]

1 hour ago, Deej said:

Speaking of stringing, I love Fender split-shaft tuners. Easiest things to string ever.

I discovered they make three-on-a-side split-shafts. Some more research and my Gibby may be getting new tuners. 

I used these on two of my Warmoth projects.  I like them better than the split shafts, especially for guitars with tremolos. 

https://www.stewmac.com/parts-and-hardware/tuning-machines/solid-peghead-guitar-tuning-machines/gotoh-locking-vintage-oval-knob-6-in-line-tuners.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=2021-03-gp&gclid=CjwKCAiA4rGCBhAQEiwAelVti_OQqzkW05wRtL5fi8_y56WtzQ4uG_pN58kXcuTpbBy2i2c1eRfC1RoCfYEQAvD_BwE

If you have a quarter, you can just open it up, shove the string in and you're done.  If you're fancy, you clip the ends.  

[noharleyyet 2,826]

Team Collings CL wrapped, R6 unwrapped...

[Paul Wesley 3,273]

9 hours ago, tbone_ said:

I can use various heads with one cabinet.

That’s where I’ve landed too. 

[Chad Fuck 17,415]

That’s where I’ve landed too. 

I am being persuaded. What’s your cabinet of choice? Open? Closed?

[tbone_ 14,016]

I have 2 2/12 cabs. 1 open and 1 closed - same speakers in both. Honestly the only difference I can tell is the closed sounds a little tighter with a high power head (like my dual showman). But it’s really close to a push. Every combination I have sounds great.

[Paul Wesley 3,273]

Me and tbone leading parallel lives.  I also have 2 2x12 cabinets.  One open (the 65amps one with the blue badge and two different speakers) and a closed Orange 2x12.  I agree that the difference between open and closed is subtle.  It's a more subtle difference than you'd assume from listening and reading other guitarists talk about cabinet preference. 

I have shot them out side-by-side in the studio, and the closed-back Orange wins (tighter) on aggressive high-gain stuff.  Otherwise, I prefer the open back.  If I had to pick one, it would be the open-back cabinet, and it would be a very easy choice.

It's a lot less money and space to buy heads than combos.

[jimmyjazz 45,319]

Does the open 2x12 weigh significantly less than a closed version?

[Paul Wesley 3,273]

Mine are within a few pounds of each other - the open backed on is actually heavier, but it has a handle on the top... so an easy one-arm carry.  The Orange cabinet has recessed handles on the sides, so you definitely need two arms, and you have to lift it almost to chest height to move it around.   

[Buzzrock 14,790]

[AnotherUTFan 9,606]

Couple on reverb now for $1,100.

I went with the head which was harder to find because combos are too heavy. Plus I can use various heads with one cabinet.

If you can ever find a studio .22 caliber + head with the 5 band eq, I’d highly recommend that too. I have one and it’s awesome. 22 watts. Still loud af but very easy to carry. I just use the clean side with pedals.

I think I mentioned before, I played through another guys 22 caliber at a jam once. That was a great little amp. That one was a combo. A nice clean channel and an aggressive gain channel. I used both.

I'd do the head, small cab thing but so many of my amps are vintage combos. My place is overrun with them. I have to keep some of it in the practice space. In fact, thats all I really use that space for these days. I should get real and start calling it what it is, storage space.

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[Chad Fuck 17,415]

39 minutes ago, AnotherUTFan said:

 

 

I think I mentioned before, I played through another guys 22 caliber at a jam once. That was a great little amp. That one was a combo. A nice clean channel and an aggressive gain channel. I used both.

I'd do the head, small cab thing but so many of my amps are vintage combos. My place is overrun with them. I have to keep some of it in the practice space. In fact, thats all I really use that space for these days. I should get real and start calling it what it is, storage space.

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But how can you practice with them if they aren't there?

BTW, it seems upon reading many Mesa descriptions this Sunday afternoon, they are the TexMex food of amps.  That is, where Tex Mex is essentially tortilla/beans/rice/meat mixed and served in different fashions, the Mesa is Fender/Vox/Marshall sound mixed and served in different fashions.   Like I was first looking at the Electradyne, then the Trans Atlantic, then the Lone Star, then the Filmore....and my sense is they all do pretty much the same thing, just in slightly different fashions.  I didn't look at any that did the dual rectifier thing becuase I just don't need a metal amp (now at least).  Am I reading it correctly?

 

[tbone_ 14,016]

I think so. The best way I know to explain it is that every mesa I’ve played (owned a recto, .22, electradyne, played Lone star and Mark V) have something to their sound that is uniquely Mesa. Even though they all do different things they still all have this common Mesa dna if that makes sense.

They’ve all sounded great to me. I think that’s the reason I like the electradyne so much is it’s a mesa’ized version of a twin and a hot rodded Marshall, which are pretty cool combinations.

[Scooter Monzingo 820]

On 3/12/2021 at 5:23 PM, Chad Fuck said:

So soon to be NGD for me.  My buddy and I just won an auction on these two.  He's taking the one on the left, I'm taking the one on the right.  

You chose wisely. That quilt pattern will take your breath away. Very well done. Can you share the year?

[Chad Fuck 17,415]

4 hours ago, Scooter Monzingo said:

You chose wisely. That quilt pattern will take your breath away. Very well done. Can you share the year?

That's high praise coming from you Scooter.  

2001 Gibson Custom Shop R8

As to the choice, there really wasn't much to it.  My buddy just said, "I want the one on the left, you want the one on the right?"  He seems to like the late 70s/early 80s Gibsons.  I have an '82 LP Custom (the first guitar I paid for with my own sweat) and it's a great guitar.  I wouldn't trade it for anything.  But I think both Fender and Gibson are putting out as fine of guitars today as they ever have.  Sure, they don't have the mojo of 70 years patina - at least, the non-relic'd ones don't - but they great instruments.  I think he likes the allure of old.  But come to think of it, while 2001 doesn't seem that long ago to me, it is a while in guitar years.

[Celery Man 20,809]

yeah it's fucked up to me that my strat is... ~23 years old

[Chad Fuck 17,415]

3 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

yeah it's fucked up to me that my strat is... ~23 years old

Time keeps on tickin'...tickin'...tickin'....

[tbone_ 14,016]

My Les Paul will turn 25 this year

[Bogeywon 2,518]

12 hours ago, tbone_ said:

I think so. The best way I know to explain it is that every mesa I’ve played (owned a recto, .22, electradyne, played Lone star and Mark V) have something to their sound that is uniquely Mesa. Even though they all do different things they still all have this common Mesa dna if that makes sense.

They’ve all sounded great to me. I think that’s the reason I like the electradyne so much is it’s a mesa’ized version of a twin and a hot rodded Marshall, which are pretty cool combinations.

i have a single rec head over a Marshall 1960a and the tone I get gives me a boner. Also run it through my new orange 2x12 cab. Both vintage 30s. I bought the head in the early 2000s when I worked at GC. Got it used for like $150 and the 1960a used for $75. I bought them both for the store and the way the discount worked was we got everything at cost. Best purchases I’ve ever made

[noharleyyet 2,826]

37 calendars..added the gold guard and dirty blond pups. I don't play it enough...sounds and plays wonderfully

 

Edited March 15, 2021 by noharleyyet

[AnotherUTFan 9,606]

Post pics when you do.  Refresh our recollection.  

Made it home this morning and took it out for the 1st time in a while. Ill think ill restring and plug into the Marshall O50 today.

All this Les Paul talk got me thinking about the friend's R8 that drove me to buy mine. I believe his is from 2001 like the one Chad's getting. Anyway, I texted him to confirm the year this morning and he responded that he's considering selling it - thats his way of justifying new gear now that's he's retired - and that I'm 1st on the list per our longstanding agreement.

I guess I have decision time coming up soon. Its a good one.

1st pic is from the day I got mine in 2014. The other is from this morning.



Edit - confirmed his is from 2001 SN 8-1399 - 399th R8 built in 2001. It'll be interesting to see the SN on yours Chad.

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