The Guitar Pron Thread

[Buzzrock 15136]

Gibson responds in the new whacky guitars battle. 
 

https://www.premierguitar.com/news/gibson-theodore
 

I don’t like that. Looks like something that Prince would have had made.

[DougO 5266]

To me it looks like a ripoff of the Taisco Tulip. 

 

 

[Scooter Monzingo 821]

9 hours ago, DougO said:

Gibson responds in the new whacky guitars battle. 

 

https://www.premierguitar.com/news/gibson-theodore

 

That is a weak effort to recognize Ted McCarty. 

[Goredho 17656]

I’m not down with the Georgia O’Keefe signature model.

[Anton Chigurh 3335]

[DougO 5266]

The hockey stick headstock doesn't work with it at all. It should be pointy like the guitar, as it is in the original sketch. Then it would almost be weird enough to work in a small niche sort of way.

 

Edited March 19, 2022 by DougO

[Deej 77834]

And fuck that pickguard. 

[jimmyjazz 47212]

That's an ugly guitar.

[Butch Had Not 3061]

Ok that meteora is a fucking banger compared to the Gibson. 

[Scooter Monzingo 821]

3 hours ago, Deej said:

And fuck that pickguard. 

You know, I really didn’t notice that until you pointed it out. But yeah, that looks like a scrap piece.

[Chad Fuck 18135]

You know, I really didn’t notice that until you pointed it out. But yeah, that looks like a scrap piece.

Should be a teardrop like a Duo Jet.

[Buzzrock 15136]

I’m so glad we all hate it!

[Goredho 17656]

Now we just need to reach a consensus on the Silver Sky.

[Deej 77834]

It's one of rock's most iconic guitars. So much history.

 

[tbone_ 14449]

Now we just need to reach a consensus on the Silver Sky.

[DougO 5266]

18 hours ago, Deej said:

And fuck that pickguard. 

 Correct. If they're gonna pay tribute to the original why did they make changes that made it look stupider?

[DougO 5266]

It looks like it would be uncomfortable to play, as well. Watching that Rhett video it seems like the points would be jabbing his thighs and flabby pecs.

Sounds good, though.

[jimmyjazz 47212]

2 hours ago, Goredho said:

Now we just need to reach a consensus on the Silver Sky.

We did, as long as we define "consensus" as "everybody minus one".

[Deej 77834]

26 minutes ago, DougO said:

It looks like it would be uncomfortable to play, as well. Watching that Rhett video it seems like the points would be jabbing his thighs and flabby pecs.

Sounds good, though.

Nobody on Surly has flabby pecs. 

[Bogeywon 2548]

26 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

We did, as long as we define "consensus" as "everybody minus one".

I hope I’m the one because I fuck with PRS and have one on order! Like I said I believe in a few things lawlessness when it comes to posting ALL guitar things amps pedals guitars in this thread, I love the silver sky as well as the PRS Head stock, the cock the pussy and long wet kisses that last three days! Letttsss gooooo

[DougO 5266]

I have one guitar with the hockey stick headstock, a super cheap old Epiphone Strat copy I got for $10. It was my first strip down for attempting a guitar design project. I never put it together, though, it's still in parts. I started to a couple of times but the body is so thin I can't find a bridge with a block short enough that it won't be sticking out the back of the guitar. I wasn't going to put the shitty original back in, and really wanted a black one anyway, never could find a solution.  The body design turned out kidna cool in a cheesy hair metal sort of way but I don't have a photo of the finished version. I need to slap this thing together one day soon and give the Vagicaster some company in the DougO Hall Of Fail.

 

Edited March 20, 2022 by DougO

[Deej 77834]

7 minutes ago, DougO said:

I started to a couple of times but the body is so thin I can't find a bridge with a block short enough that it won't be sticking out the back of the guitar.

Make it a hardtail?

[DougO 5266]

3 minutes ago, Deej said:

Make it a hardtail?

I could, but that guitar screams for whammy.

[Deej 77834]

Quote

A Jaguar/Jazzmaster trem is probably the closest to the original that's easily available off the shelf, and only needs a body depth of about an inch - although you would need to be careful not to leave the rear wall too thin and fragile

https://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/73810/tremolos-for-thin-bodies

 

Maybe?

Edited March 20, 2022 by Deej

[DougO 5266]

3 minutes ago, Deej said:

https://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/73810/tremolos-for-thin-bodies

The Les Trim looks cool, but it would cost about 300X the value of the guitar.

[Deej 77834]

1 minute ago, DougO said:

Les Trim

What is something Surly members will never admit to getting?

[tbone_ 14449]

I have one guitar with the hockey stick headstock, a super cheap old Epiphone Strat copy I got for $10. It was my first strip down for attempting a guitar design project. I never put it together, though, it's still in parts. I started to a couple of times but the body is so thin I can't find a bridge with a block short enough that it won't be sticking out the back of the guitar. I wasn't going to put the shitty original back in, and really wanted a black one anyway, never could find a solution.  The body design turned out kidna cool in a cheesy hair metal sort of way but I don't have a photo of the finished version. I need to slap this thing together one day soon and give the Vagicaster some company in the DougO Hall Of Fail.


 

That’s bad ass

[DougO 5266]

Here is the body as it exists from a photo just taken. I can't locate the neck at the moment. I know it's around here somewhere in the junk room.

 

[tbone_ 14449]

I’d buy that if you want to sell it

[Scooter Monzingo 821]

2 hours ago, DougO said:

Here is the body as it exists from a photo just taken. I can't locate the neck at the moment. I know it's around here somewhere in the junk room.

 

You really did a good job on that. It has a real Tim Burton thing going without over cooking it. 

[Buzzrock 15136]

We did, as long as we define "consensus" as "everybody minus one".

*two

[DougO 5266]

3 hours ago, tbone_ said:

I’d buy that if you want to sell it

 

2 hours ago, Scooter Monzingo said:

You really did a good job on that. It has a real Tim Burton thing going without over cooking it. 

Thanks, y'all! I don't think I would ever sell it. I did it with Prismacolor alcohol based art markers and it would probably fade with much light exposure and usage. The clear is just acrylic spray carefully misted to keep from blasting the color off, put on after the ink was really dry and lightly sanded. And it's such a crapass low end guitar I would hate to pawn it off on somebody. I still hope to get it functional and halfway decent playing, though. 

[Butch Had Not 3061]

I came across All in One guitars. They have some pretty nice guitars (and some really different ones that are not my cup of tea).

https://www.allinoneguitars.com/aioelectric

[Scooter Monzingo 821]

6 hours ago, DougO said:

 

Thanks, y'all! I don't think I would ever sell it. I did it with Prismacolor alcohol based art markers and it would probably fade with much light exposure and usage. The clear is just acrylic spray carefully misted to keep from blasting the color off, put on after the ink was really dry and lightly sanded. And it's such a crapass low end guitar I would hate to pawn it off on somebody. I still hope to get it functional and halfway decent playing, though. 

Actually, besides the fact it was cleaver to use the prismacolor pens. You obviously know how to use them. I have some of those things, and like all mixed media they require some skill. 
 

The overall color/contrast transition really pops in that photograph. It flat catches your eye. Especially the yellow/orange/red area on the horn. That really photographed well.

 

[DougO 5266]

5 hours ago, Scooter Monzingo said:

Actually, besides the fact it was cleaver to use the prismacolor pens. You obviously know how to use them. I have some of those things, and like all mixed media they require some skill. 
 

The overall color/contrast transition really pops in that photograph. It flat catches your eye. Especially the yellow/orange/red area on the horn. That really photographed well.

 

I didn't have much experience with those markers before that, but it was what I was playing with at the time. I found that on a hard surface like the paint on the guitar you can blend the colors easier, as it stays a bit wet for a while. I might try something similar with acrylic paint, but I never really learned that skill, so it would probably be completely different.

[Buzzrock 15136]

I came across All in One guitars. They have some pretty nice guitars (and some really different ones that are not my cup of tea).
https://www.allinoneguitars.com/aioelectric

What’s the story with those? The relic white SSS is cool.

[Buzzrock 15136]

I was driving home tonight listening to James McMurtry’s live version of “Choctaw Bingo” at high volumes. If you ever needed a track to demonstrate the “sound” of a tube amp vs the “feel” of a tube amp, you could do a lot worse. You make a lot of things sound like a tube amp, but only a tube amp feels like one.

It also made me wonder if a “Songs that exhibit the Surly vibe” thread would be a good idea.

Got damn that’s a great song.

[Deej 77834]

"Why does everything sound like shit?"

*Checks Amazon history to see when last ordered strings*

Edited March 22, 2022 by Deej

[Butch Had Not 3061]

1 hour ago, Buzzrock said:

What’s the story with those? The relic white SSS is cool.

I really don't know but they have some pretty nice budget friendly guitars and the YouTube reviews are pretty positive. 

 

 

 

[DougO 5266]

45 minutes ago, Deej said:

"Why does everything sound like shit?"

*Checks Amazon history to see when last ordered strings*

I make it a point to re-strang about every other presidential administration, like clockwork.

[jimmyjazz 47212]

Fuck it, I tried to quote you but I couldn't get it to pare down w/o the video.

I totally get what you're saying about McMurtry's tube amp.  I had the privilege of recording Alejandro Escovedo one night at my dumpy little studio.  It was supposed to be his "orchestra", but he brought along his rhythm section "just in case".  Before I knew it all hell had broken loose and I had to stick his guitarist -- Joe Eddy Hines -- in the airlock between my "studio" and the greater Travis Heights neighborhood.  Those fuckers just got louder and louder as the night wore on, to the point where his string players just gave up.  We overdubbed them a couple of weeks later.  

The point is, take a player like Joe Eddy Hines, jam his guitar into a little but loud Fender amp, and you will hear God.  Goodness, the tone.  It was just brutally huge, and perfect.

[ERhine 1938]

I was driving home tonight listening to James McMurtry’s live version of “Choctaw Bingo” at high volumes. If you ever needed a track to demonstrate the “sound” of a tube amp vs the “feel” of a tube amp, you could do a lot worse. You make a lot of things sound like a tube amp, but only a tube amp feels like one.

It also made me wonder if a “Songs that exhibit the Surly vibe” thread would be a good idea.

Got damn that’s a great song.

I also listened to Choctaw Bingo tonight. That’s all I got.

[Chad Fuck 18135]

9 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Fuck it, I tried to quote you but I couldn't get it to pare down w/o the video.

I totally get what you're saying about McMurtry's tube amp.  I had the privilege of recording Alejandro Escovedo one night at my dumpy little studio.  It was supposed to be his "orchestra", but he brought along his rhythm section "just in case".  Before I knew it all hell had broken loose and I had to stick his guitarist -- Joe Eddy Hines -- in the airlock between my "studio" and the greater Travis Heights neighborhood.  Those fuckers just got louder and louder as the night wore on, to the point where his string players just gave up.  We overdubbed them a couple of weeks later.  

The point is, take a player like Joe Eddy Hines, jam his guitar into a little but loud Fender amp, and you will hear God.  Goodness, the tone.  It was just brutally huge, and perfect.

Which version of Fender's Little But Loud line was he using?

[jimmyjazz 47212]

25 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

Which version of Fender's Little But Loud line was he using?

He brought something in, but ended up on a 68 Princeton of mine that had been hot-rodded.  It was technically a silverface, but had blackface components.

[Scooter Monzingo 821]

I have always believed that the best guitar tone ever recorded, was the live side of Fandango. Not the quality of the songs in the medley, just the guitar sound. Obviously everyone has their own thing. But, for me it is that sound. I have tried to duplicate it many times, no luck.

I have read many contradicting interviews about what was used to record that. So it is anyones guess what we are really hearing. But it is wonderful…

[Celery Man 21098]

to my 8 year old's ear, the most monster fucking powerful tone of all time was jonny greenwood going "CHUKKKA.... CHUKKA" after "you're so fucking special" on Creep. And of course that was his shitty little solid state Fender 85 with a Marshall shredmaster.

[tbone_ 14449]

to my 8 year old's ear, the most monster fucking powerful tone of all time was jonny greenwood going "CHUKKKA.... CHUKKA" after "you're so fucking special" on Creep. And of course that was his shitty little solid state Fender 85 with a Marshall shredmaster.

[jimmyjazz 47212]

3 hours ago, Scooter Monzingo said:

I have always believed that the best guitar tone ever recorded, was the live side of Fandango. Not the quality of the songs in the medley, just the guitar sound. Obviously everyone has their own thing. But, for me it is that sound. I have tried to duplicate it many times, no luck.

I have read many contradicting interviews about what was used to record that. So it is anyones guess what we are really hearing. But it is wonderful…

On your behalf I messaged Terry Manning, one of the engineers on Fandango.  I don't know him in real life but we communicate from time to time.  I'm pretty sure he only worked on the studio cuts off that album, because the Record Plant truck gets credited, and I don't think he ever worked for The Record Plant.  At any rate, for what it's worth, this is what he said:

"AFAIK, it was his Rio Grande amps, which were basically modded Marshalls."

Probably nothing more than what you've already heard.  He also threw in this photo:

[Buzzrock 15136]

That’s badass

[tbone_ 14449]

Indeed