The Guitar Pron Thread

[AnotherUTFan 9758]

One of the local news anchors in Waco has a band. They are terrible. They get good gigs because of his local celebrity I presume. I can't remember his name, anybody in Waco can tell you. They'll also acknowledge how bad they are.

[Chad Fuck 17686]

18 minutes ago, Paul Wesley said:

According to this wikipedia entry, after opening for the Eagles, Allman Brothers, Dixie Chicks, Joe Walsh, and ZZ Top - Dolan released a record that sold 113 copies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JD_%26_The_Straight_Shot

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he New York Times has described the band as a group of "well-known sidemen backing a karaoke grade singer," and noted that Dolan's "musical talents are unlikely to endanger his day job."

Lulz.

[Chad Fuck 17686]

1 minute ago, AnotherUTFan said:

One of the local news anchors in Waco has a band. They are terrible. They get good gigs because of his local celebrity I presume. I can't remember his name, anybody in Waco can tell you. They'll also acknowledge how bad they are.

This I can respect.  If you can't go out and have fun being bad at music, then what the fuck are we all living for?  He can't help it if he's a minor local celebrity for reading the news or whatever. 

[Goredho 17409]

Dolan should just totally own the rich asshole with a music hobby role.  Fuck those opening slots, he needs to buy enough of his own albums to get a framed platinum record and put himself at the top of the billboard charts for a week.  No more half measures.

[tbone_ 14129]

I did not know that whole Dolan story. Jesus shit dicks that’s bad.

[DougO 5250]

34 minutes ago, AnotherUTFan said:

One of the local news anchors in Waco has a band. They are terrible. They get good gigs because of his local celebrity I presume. I can't remember his name, anybody in Waco can tell you. They'll also acknowledge how bad they are.

I think it's Gordan Collier. I don't think its celebrity so much as being hooked in with a lot of contacts, friends with businesses and such, and they probably don't demand much money for gigs. Just something they do for fun once in a while. I've never heard anyone say they were a particularly good band.

[DougO 5250]

34 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

This I can respect.  If you can't go out and have fun being bad at music, then what the fuck are we all living for?  He can't help it if he's a minor local celebrity for reading the news or whatever. 

Yeah, there's not even a bad music scene here for rock bands any more, just country stuff, most of which is the modern variety that I can't stand, but has a strong following. I would give my left nut for a bad rock band scene again, just to kick back and kill an evening once in a while.

[tbone_ 14129]

Yep. Dirty Years just accepted a gig playing last this Friday night, and I have a flight departing at 745 the next morning. Its gonna hurt, but you don't get to keep the monicker Shawn Rocker by turning away gigs.

Ooh yea that’ll be fun.

We did a Saturday lunch gig last week. Sat morning got a last min call for a 5-8 gig an hour a way. 6 hours of playing and singing in one day. You go where they call.

But there was no 7:45 am flight involved. Thank God. Good luck to you on that brother.

[DougO 5250]

I think I would rather hear a bad singer with a good band, than a good singer with a bad band.

[Chad Fuck 17686]

9 minutes ago, DougO said:

I think I would rather hear a bad singer with a good band, than a good singer with a bad band.

This is true.  It's easier to tune out one person than five.  

 

[Celery Man 20969]

Man I never heard of this guy before, but I’ve talked to the chief pilot at his company (same last name) several times. They had their 737 enrolled in a corporate aviation safety program and I was missing data for several months, called the guy up and he explained that it was the off season for the Knicks.

[Paul Wesley 3278]

37 minutes ago, DougO said:

I think I would rather hear a bad singer with a good band, than a good singer with a bad band.

My experience:  

If singer sucks, people will say, "That singer sucks."

Guitar player sucks... "That guitar player sucks."

Exception to that is the drummer.  If the drummer sucks - "That band sucks."

The rest of the band simply cannot overcome a shitty drummer.

Edited June 1, 2022 by Paul Wesley

[DougO 5250]

Potential cheap new beater acoustical, for anyone who might be looking...

https://slickdeals.net/f/15816064-fender-fsr-cc-60s-concert-acoustic-guitar-natural-139-free-shipping?src=frontpage

 

[DougO 5250]

I don't think I've ever picked up a Fender acoustic that I liked, but for the money...

[tbone_ 14129]

My experience:  
If singer sucks, people will say, "That singer sucks."
Guitar player sucks... "That guitar player sucks."
Exception to that is the drummer.  If the drummer sucks - "That band sucks."
The rest of the band simply cannot overcome a shitty drummer.

I think you have to have a good singer, at least an on key singer. No one will stick around and listen to an off key singer. And you have to have a groove. After that, it’s sad to say, but pretty much any old guitar player will do. No one cares about us, except maybe a few other guitar players.

[jimmyjazz 45978]

I thought the guy's stage presence was worse than his voice.  With a voice like that, though, you'd better write some really good songs or people are just gonna ignore you.  I've heard worse, sometimes coming right from my own mouth.  (I refer to those as "bad nights".)

@Paul Wesley, did he open for Eagles here in Austin, or just some random show in the past?

[Goredho 17409]

Stumbled across SoundSlice recently, and it seems like an interesting tool for learning covers as easily as possible.  Anyone else play with it?  Here's an example (with shitty laptop mic sound quality in the screen recording).
 

 

[Paul Wesley 3278]

I think his Eagles shows were several years back.  
 

I only know about Dolan because someone from NY told me stories going around among the musicians that Dolan hired.  When Tbone mentioned millionaires buying gigs, I got really excited to share the City Winery clip, but it’s gone.  
 

I suppose someone could have made a scene just to embarrass him, but it came off as a sincere music fan who paid $$$ at a reputable listening room, and got beaten down until finally, between songs, in a desperate and exasperated voice, “Please give us our money back.” (Murmuring, staff goes over to talk to patrons standing up to leave) “You have a terrible singing voice!” (More murmuring)

”Hey!  Do you guys like Johnny Cash?”

[dcbc 14487]

On 5/27/2022 at 6:37 PM, DougO said:

But I can't stand Mayor and his shitty fakeass cartoon voice

Thank you.  I enjoy listening to him play Althea with Dead and Co.  Then, he starts singing it and flat out ruins it.

[tigol 2398]

JD is TBone approved:

 

[jimmyjazz 45978]

Not sure if the JD angle is a dig or what, but that point of "New Basement Tapes" finally turned me around a bit to Mumford.  The dude was feeling the pressure and he finally came up with a stellar setting for those lyrics.

[tbone_ 14129]

That’s a damn good tune

[Celery Man 20969]

I never listened Mumford and sons and had them categorized as just… hipster folk pop. Which might not be wrong but I’ve found myself liking Mumford stuff enough to begrudge him his obvious talent. Two examples of “oh that’s Mumford” are the version of Dink’s Song from inside Llewyn Davis (also featuring Oscar Isaac) and theme song to Ted Lasso.

Baby loved having this song sung to her but then I slowly realized that it’s…. maybe about a pregnant slave drowning herself in a river?

[Celery Man 20969]

name that bassist

[topochico 1049]

6 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

name that bassist

 

[Goredho 17409]

PSA...

 

[Foggy Notion 1202]

Happy Straturday.

 

[Celery Man 20969]

Do we know all about this one? Daphne blue, aged plastic, adjust at the heel, some 🐦 👁 in that maple…. ay girl

[Chad Fuck 17686]

10 minutes ago, Foggy Notion said:

Happy Straturday.

 

...it'd make milk curdle.

[Celery Man 20969]

Double post

Edited June 4, 2022 by Celery Man

[Foggy Notion 1202]

I got this one yesterday. It’s a 2019 Vintera 50s Stratocaster in Sonic Blue, ahem. 7.5 radius, vintage frets. Soft V neck profile that is really comfortable, almost U shape. A very well made Mexican Fender. It has a glossy polyester finish which separates it from the higher priced American reissues and Custom Shop models, but overall a well put together vintage spec Strat.

I got an incredible deal on it that I couldn’t pass up. It still had the stock setup and strings, protective plastic on the back cover. I polished the frets and put new strings on it just now, haven’t even plugged it in yet.

Edited June 4, 2022 by Foggy Notion
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[DougO 5250]

This is a good stupid deal of the day deal.

https://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/alvarez-mg710ce-masterworks-grand-auditorium-acoustic-electric-guitar/l80332002001000

 

 

But a few things: 

 

They list "country of origin" as USA. This model is made in China, though not specified here. They have resorted to fudging the truth. Still a very nice guitar for the money. 

No fretboard dots. Alvarez is that way with their above-beginner guitars. It sucks.

Restock? OK, still a very good deal, but if they are fudging about USA/MIC hard to say what that actually means.

Fairly close, but I'm gonna pass.

[jimmyjazz 45978]

Interesting interview with Rick Nielsen:

 

[Goredho 17409]

22 hours ago, Foggy Notion said:

Happy Straturday.

 

Cool guitar.  I think that Vintera line is pretty bad ass.  I have played a few at various shops and they all impressed me compared to more expensive models on the rack next to them.

[Foggy Notion 1202]

34 minutes ago, Goredho said:

Cool guitar.  I think that Vintera line is pretty bad ass.  I have played a few at various shops and they all impressed me compared to more expensive models on the rack next to them.

I picked up another used Vintera last month, a 50s Road Worn Tele in vintage blonde. Totally different feel with the reliced nitro compared to the glossy Strat. I think the neck is considered a U shape, feels like a really fat C. Pretty sure it’s the thickest neck I’ve ever had on a Tele.

[tbone_ 14129]

Damn those are cool guitars. When were they made again?

[Goredho 17409]

3 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Damn those are cool guitars. When were they made again?

They are currently in production.  Not sure when they started.  I played this 70s Tele deluxe at AVG a couple weeks ago, and it was a better guitar at a $1129.99 list price than the $2699 twisted telecaster deluxe next to it.  Just wasn’t quite what I was looking for.

 

[Goredho 17409]

I also played a Vintera 60s strat in this color, and it was a great guitar, just don’t need another strat, so was not seriously looking.  Anyway, I’m a fan of that line.  Good for you to get a pair, @Foggy Notion!

 

Edited June 5, 2022 by Goredho

[DougO 5250]

Design your own Surlycaster?

 

https://tctwp.com/kisekae/

[DougO 5250]

I didn't see a template for a double-necked Both Tacos model.

[Deej 76833]

Vintera's are essentially the discontinued Players series, with a few small tweaks. 

I've got a Baja with that chunky V neck which is probably close to that Road Worn of Foggys.  Great fucking neck. 

[Deej 76833]

Vintera's are essentially the discontinued Players series, with a few small tweaks. 

I've got a Baja with that chunky V neck which is probably close to that Road Worn of Foggys.  Great fucking neck. 

I've got the Baja, Esquire, and Classic Players Strat which were all of the line before the name change and price hike. They are all fantastic instruments. 

[Goredho 17409]

I haven’t liked the 3 American Professional II series Fenders I’ve played.  I am sure there are good ones, I just haven’t played em.  But 2/2 vinteras were great guitars.  Maybe just luck of the draw, I dunno.

[Foggy Notion 1202]

2 hours ago, Deej said:

Vintera's are essentially the discontinued Players series, with a few small tweaks. 

I've got a Baja with that chunky V neck which is probably close to that Road Worn of Foggys.  Great fucking neck. 

I've got the Baja, Esquire, and Classic Players Strat which were all of the line before the name change and price hike. They are all fantastic instruments. 

Agreed on the neck. They’re similar. I had a Baja a few years ago, and that one had a really chunky neck. This Vintera RW feels even thicker. It might be about the same thickness front to back, but feels bigger because there’s not much V in the shape. It’s broad shouldered and clubby, not much taper.

Speaking of price hike, the 50s Strat I bought is a 2019 from the first year of the Vintera line. It was purchased new at Strait Music and the price tag that was in the case had a list price of $899. Same guitar is now $1099 on Sweetwater. 

[Deej 76833]

I paid $799 each for my Baja, Esquire, and Strat. Prices are out of control. 

[Deej 76833]

Oh, and almost zero V in the neck of my Baja. Surprised they call it a V. Chunky with broad shoulders. Like Vic Mackeys women. 

[Deej 76833]

And the neck on my Shoreline Gold strat isn't as think, but pretty full. My favorite neck I've ever played. Sublime. 

I never thought a Strat would be my favorite player, but here we are...

 

Edited June 5, 2022 by Deej

[topochico 1049]

5 hours ago, Deej said:

I paid $799 each for my Baja, Esquire, and Strat. Prices are out of control. 

Rumor on the new American Classic series (replacement for the current American Original line) is going to be $2500-2650. That includes thin/flash coat nitro finish and hand wound pickups, but good grief. 

[Celery Man 20969]

15 hours ago, topochico said:

Rumor on the new American Classic series (replacement for the current American Original line) is going to be $2500-2650. That includes thin/flash coat nitro finish and hand wound pickups, but good grief. 

 

https://www.fender.com/articles/gear/the-history-of-the-fender-stratocaster-the-1950s

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Finally, the Stratocaster was introduced in spring 1954 as Fender’s new top-line guitar, in tremolo and non-tremolo versions. The first known ad for it appeared in that April’s issue of International Musician magazine, and a small pre-production run began that month. It was a sleekly beautiful instrument bursting with great features and producing full, clear and sparkling tones. The first full-scale production run began in October 1954, with the vibrato model priced at $249.50 and the non-vibrato model at $229.50.

 

fwiw I agree, seems crazy expensive. just interesting to remember that it was not a budget guitar in those days either

Edited June 6, 2022 by Celery Man

[Deej 76833]

Yeah, but a new Les Paul Standard goes for that price...I love Fenders, but they aren't that difficult to assemble, which is what is going on with them.