The Guitar Pron Thread

[tbone_ 13991]

I’ll just leave this here for some SG/tone pron

[Celery Man 20607]

1 hour ago, tbone_ said:

I’ll just leave this here for some SG/tone pron
 

it's so funny when things just pop up over and over again - I recently saw a video of t-pain doing a surprisingly good job at War Pigs, and then heard it on a rewatch of Fargo season 2 last night and thought "I should learn this".

[G650 13334]

Ha, I saw that T Pain vid too

[tbone_ 13991]

That’s some serious heaviosity on that tone. Also love the rainbow in the back for the doomiest doom band ever.

[Celery Man 20607]

Missing the tuneomatic but this is the kind of no flame that gets my pants tight

https://cartervintage.com/shop/gibson-les-paul-19581954-reissue-1972-sunburst/2bN6CCgK2ysKMFIYfuDpipTMmlM
 

https://www.instagram.com/p/C27npKhuecm/?igsh=Mm9wZ2c5eXlpYW0=

 

[Deej 76218]

New strap.

 

[noharleyyet 2826]

1 hour ago, Celery Man said:

Missing the tuneomatic but this is the kind of no flame that gets my pants tight

https://cartervintage.com/shop/gibson-les-paul-19581954-reissue-1972-sunburst/2bN6CCgK2ysKMFIYfuDpipTMmlM
 

https://www.instagram.com/p/C27npKhuecm/?igsh=Mm9wZ2c5eXlpYW0=

 

Awesome pic...

[Deej 76218]

I don't know where to put this, so I'll leave it here. Never heard this story.

 

[dcbc 14282]

3 hours ago, Celery Man said:

Missing the tuneomatic but this is the kind of no flame that gets my pants tight

https://cartervintage.com/shop/gibson-les-paul-19581954-reissue-1972-sunburst/2bN6CCgK2ysKMFIYfuDpipTMmlM
 

https://www.instagram.com/p/C27npKhuecm/?igsh=Mm9wZ2c5eXlpYW0=

 

That, my man, is the shit.

[Gil Bang 25681]

1 hour ago, Deej said:

I don't know where to put this, so I'll leave it here. Never heard this story.

 

He's a good storyteller.  I love when he DJ's on the Beatles channel. 

[Celery Man 20607]

Ok this is exactly what I do. I’m just not nearly as good at fingerstyle (I mean, or flatpicking).

That’s a carry over from playing guitar while sitting at a computer for hours, when I’d type with a pick in my fingers.

Edited February 6 by Celery Man

[Napoleon 8580]

4 hours ago, Celery Man said:

Ok this is exactly what I do. I’m just not nearly as good at fingerstyle (I mean, it flatpicking).

That’s a carry over from playing guitar while sitting at a computer for hours, when I’d type with a pick in my fingers.

How’s your Portuguese?

[Celery Man 20607]

muy mal

[nbmishoid 904]

Muito 

[Deej 76218]

Just a head's up...my Sweetwater rep contacted me to let me know Fender has another across the board price hike coming in March. So if you're looking at anything Fender, pull the trigger soon. 

[Celery Man 20607]

needed a new tuner cause I'm not taking the turbotuner off of my pedalboard and I'm tired of fucking around with snarks and the crappy spark tuning app to get it dialed in on the other side. I still have such a band geek soft spot for peterson.

i also dropped off a bunch of my guitars to get worked on and they're ready to be picked up. but we have covid and it's making things difficult to go pick them up. i want to play with them.

 

Edited February 10 by Celery Man

[jimmyjazz 45206]

What do you think of that tuner?  I'm tired of iPhone apps asking for (more) money, etc.  Need a pedal.  I might have one in my stash somewhere, but other recs are welcome.

[Celery Man 20607]

Well, I firmly believe that the difference between +\- 1 cent and +\-0.1 cents in a tuner is noticeable and important, and I also really like strobe tuners. Even if they are fidgety, I like how quickly the reading updates and that it is displayed in a more analog form. I’m specifically tired of sitting on one side of my office and deciding which side of the theoretical 1 cent the G string is sitting on.

 

 Anyways, not everyone feels the same way and if, for example, you went looking for opinions from the teenagers on Reddit you’d probably find that a little korg is all you need. But my starting point for “not a cheap clip on” is high accuracy strobe. This is my third physical Peterson and I also have the tuner app, which was a good deal at $20 or whatever a decade ago. I had a handheld unit before they even made the stomp box, I bought the original strobostomp and gigged with it bouncing around in my case for years until the plastic jacks physically broke. And then I bought a turbo tuner (https://www.turbo-tuner.com) because… the internet liked them and I think maybe Peterson briefly didn’t make a stomp pedal. It is fast and accurate but kinda low tech display and it is difficult to read in direct sunlight.

 

 Given the cost of the various higher end tuning pedals ($100 for the veritable boss), I would definitely recommend Peterson. It seemed like the cheaper/smaller footprint version of the pedal was only missing some of the extended “sweetened tuning” library type features in comparison with the full size box, and it is $120. Obviously I haven’t had this one long enough to speak to durability, but it seems solid. I’m trying the guitar sweetened tuning, which I’ve never done but I’ll see how I feel. I do like that this tuner lets you change the accidentals - every tuner displays sharps and finally I have one showing me Eb. I think the…. Poly tuner and the canvas tuner are other boxes to look at. And the boss, to be fair.

 This one is a silly gold anniversary edition btw, pretty much identical to the HD version.

 

 One of the guitars I’m getting cleaned up is my PRS. Which is also the most stable and surgical guitar I have - I’m going to play with the temperament settings a little bit when I get it back and see what I think.

Edited February 10 by Celery Man

[G650 13334]

4 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

One of the guitars I’m getting cleaned up is my PRS

[Celery Man 20607]

[jimmyjazz 45206]

13 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

I’m trying the guitar sweetened tuning,

Elaborate?  Is this like a slightly different temperament?  I almost always tweak my "in tune" guitars to sing better with certain chords (open G, etc.).  Am I "sweetening" it or is that something else?

[Celery Man 20607]

 

[Celery Man 20607]

That video is less informative than I thought it would be, but yeah it’s like little temperament settings for electric, acoustic, maybe if you have the guitar tuned down, etc to adjust for the inherent problems with a fretted string instrument.

[Celery Man 20607]

Oh here’s a guy exploring sweetened tunings with his PRSears

 

[Celery Man 20607]

Gen 1 50 watt Katana and Boss FS-6 switch pedal…. $125 if I’m trying to get rid of it locally? 150? Maybe I should unbundle but I don’t think I have any use for a boss switch pedal, and maybe Facebook marketplace is better but I’d pay $30 to not deal with a Craigslist idiot.

looks like a new mk ii katana is 270

[tbone_ 13991]

I’d try Facebook. You still have idiots but at least the have a profile and I think shit sells better on there these days.

[Paul Wesley 3273]

On 2/9/2024 at 9:33 PM, Celery Man said:

 I still have such a band geek soft spot for peterson.

 

Side bets on what band instrument Celery played?

I played alto sax.  Hard to get less cool than that.  The fucking oboe section was kicking my backpack down the hall.  

[Celery Man 20607]

34 minutes ago, Paul Wesley said:

Side bets on what band instrument Celery played?

I played alto sax.  Hard to get less cool than that.  The fucking oboe section was kicking my backpack down the hall.  

Hints: nerd, important to have a good ear

[Paul Wesley 3273]

Trombone or French horn?

Those seem like the two hardest to nail a pitch. 

[Celery Man 20607]

34 minutes ago, Paul Wesley said:

Trombone or French horn?

Those seem like the two hardest to nail a pitch. 

Trombone players are dorks and dweebs. Nailed it with the horn.

[jimmyjazz 45206]

15 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

Trombone players are dorks and dweebs. Nailed it with the horn.

Me too on French horn.  Actually had a full ride to Michigan, but I figured my odds were greater than 50% I'd end up teaching middle school band.  Fuck that.

[Paul Wesley 3273]

There used to be this super cool store on 35th Street called Radio Ranch.  They had a lot of old scientific artifacts like chemistry lab equipment from the 50's, a super old x-ray machine with giant knobs, etc.  Anyway, they had a beat-up old horn there that I bought for like $50.

Turned out it was a marching mellophone, which I guess is a straightened-out French horn.  

It was very hard to play... much harder than a trumpet, I think.  I sounded horrid.  

I have had other equally unsuccessful "pretty sure I can play this instrument" adventures.  

[Paul Wesley 3273]

I think maybe when you pick a band instrument in 6th grade, the worse your decision, the more likely you'll own a Les Paul at some point.  

Very impressive on the Michigan scholarship, jimmyjazz.  

 

[Celery Man 20607]

Well I remember Jimmy was a cavalier, so he knows his way around a mellophone. I was close to getting in the cadets when I was 17 but they offered me alternate or crossmen and I chose summer instead

[jimmyjazz 45206]

Were Crossmen still back east at the time or had they moved to Texas by then?  (Can't remember if it was San Antonio or Austin.)

[Celery Man 20607]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

Were Crossmen still back east at the time or had they moved to Texas by then?  (Can't remember if it was San Antonio or Austin.)

This would have been… 2002 I think and they were still in Jersey. Joint tryouts for the Cadets and Crossmen.

 

i played that Mozart horn concerto (….#4?) and can still kinda do Tiger of San Pedro.

Edited February 13 by Celery Man

[G650 13334]

2 hours ago, Paul Wesley said:

I played alto sax.  

My man.

[jimmyjazz 45206]

30 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

i played that Mozart horn concerto (….#4?) 

Yeah, I played that one.  #2 as well, I think.  My state solo was Strauss, and the judge was the professor at Michigan.  Came out afterward and offered me on the spot.  I felt like a football player.  (I might be a little on the small side, though.)

French horn is a beating.

[G650 13334]

I'm trying to remember if we even had a horn player. I would think in high school we had to have, but I can't remember for the life of me who it would have been.

[jimmyjazz 45206]

Ever see a jazz big band with French horns playing some of the sax parts?  It used to be fairly common.  Weird.

[hullabelew 3698]

2 hours ago, Paul Wesley said:

I think maybe when you pick a band instrument in 6th grade, the worse your decision, the more likely you'll own a Les Paul at some point.  

Very impressive on the Michigan scholarship, jimmyjazz.  

 

I picked cornet.  Quit after 3 weeks.  Principal called me to the office asking why I quit.  "I also play guitar.  It's a TON more fun."   He said, "As long as you're doing something musical."  All of these years later, out of the 30 of us, only me and one of the chicks playing drums are still playing.  

[jimmyjazz 45206]

30 minutes ago, hullabelew said:

He said, "As long as you're doing something musical."  

"Well, I wouldn't say it's exactly MUSICAL, Bob."

[Celery Man 20607]

Got my guitars back. Gratuitous lighting pics -

 

 

 

 

Spoiler

 

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The guy has several pictures of him and Joey B. Apparently Mr B grew up down the street from him in New York.

 

 

[Chad Fuck 17309]

Got my guitars back. Gratuitous lighting pics -

 

 

 

 
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The guy has several pictures of him and Joey B. Apparently Mr B grew up down the street from him in New York.

 
 

Very nice!

[hullabelew 3698]

@Celery Man  Where have they been?  

[Celery Man 20607]

Oh they've just been at a local luthier/tech. I've got a laundry list of guitar problems, and just knocked out a bunch of them finally.

The '72 thinline was dropped on stage like 15 years ago and it's been kinda fucked up since then, particularly the jack. He fixed that, and cleaned everything off. And I just finally swapped the ugly black dunlop straplocs that I bought when I was 16 off of it and put some regular fender vintage strap buttons on it.

The OOO15M at some point got out of whack, I think possibly with the move from Austin to NC. The neck was a bowed - it was still playable but the action was crazy high once you got even a bit up the neck. Fixed that, set it up, etc

The J45 has always had intonation problems. He fixed that and set it up.

And the PRS honestly has always been perfect. And so I've never done a thing to it. It just had some nasty oxidization and grossness on the pickups and the frets were really nasty. Green. He cleaned it up.

[Napoleon 8580]

11 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Me too on French horn.  Actually had a full ride to Michigan, but I figured my odds were greater than 50% I'd end up teaching middle school band.  Fuck that.

In 5th grade, I was in Beginning Band.

1) Had a friend who was doing French Horn AND his left hand was in a soft cast from surgery or breaking it… ??

Anyway, it was a perfect mute cone that he had for the first 3 months of school, or so.

2) We spent more time listening to the teacher’s repetitive lecture than we did practicing.

Band Master Mario Foster’s favorite sayings:

A) “You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.”

B) “You hear me, but you do not listen.”

C) “[Random Student]! If you don’t stop talking, I’m going to plant my foot so far up your ass that we’re going to have to go to Nurse Eichenwald’s office to have it removed!”

I was snare drum and we were in the back of the room. We spent so much time listening to him rant that I frequently did homework for the next class because the snare was a desk and the music stand was a blinder. 

Edited February 14 by Napoleon

[Gil Bang 25681]

6 hours ago, Celery Man said:

Oh they've just been at a local luthier/tech. I've got a laundry list of guitar problems, and just knocked out a bunch of them finally.

The '72 thinline was dropped on stage like 15 years ago and it's been kinda fucked up since then, particularly the jack. He fixed that, and cleaned everything off. And I just finally swapped the ugly black dunlop straplocs that I bought when I was 16 off of it and put some regular fender vintage strap buttons on it.

The OOO15M at some point got out of whack, I think possibly with the move from Austinto NC. The neck was a bowed - it was still playable but the action was crazy high once you got even a bit up the neck. Fixed that, set it up, etc

The J45 has always had intonation problems. He fixed that and set it up.

And the PRS honestly has always been perfect. And so I've never done a thing to it. It just had some nasty oxidization and grossness on the pickups and the frets were really nasty. Green. He cleaned it up.

Tell me more about the gibson.  What was the problem, and what was the solution?

[Celery Man 20607]

1 hour ago, Gil Bang said:

Tell me more about the gibson.  What was the problem, and what was the solution?

Gibbon has always just been really tough to tune. Tuning the open strings to pitch always sounded wonky with much movement at all, and forget capoing or otherwise moving up the neck without retuning. Which, to me seems like basic intonation problems.

i honestly don’t know how you intonate and adjust action on an acoustic, but that was the fix - intonate, action, and relief.

[Gil Bang 25681]

12 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

Gibbon has always just been really tough to tune. Tuning the open strings to pitch always sounded wonky with much movement at all, and forget capoing or otherwise moving up the neck without retuning. Which, to me seems like basic intonation problems.

i honestly don’t know how you intonate and adjust action on an acoustic, but that was the fix - intonate, action, and relief.

what year is that 45?