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  On 4/30/2019 at 2:31 PM, Valmy77 said:

It was a question. An attempt to become more informed.

Fair enough. But there were loads of guys like him out there, it seemed like he was sought out because he had this connection. But perhaps that was a bad example. I was musing more on the value of legacies in general, if there might not be good reasons to take that into consideration.

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The uninformed part was only meant as to your characterization of Rodriguez. He was as good as the staff could hope to do in their awful situation.

I can’t really figure out what it is you’re trying to ask, but it sounds like your question is there a reason to take a legacy over someone you think is a better prospect? And the answer is no.

Legacy shouldn’t really matter, it’s just a small bonus if a guy who’s your #1 at the position happens to be a legacy because he’s probably less likely to transfer and a little easier to recruit.

 

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  On 4/30/2019 at 2:45 PM, Burt Macklin said:

I can’t really figure out what it is you’re trying to ask, but it sounds like your question is there a reason to take a legacy over someone you think is a better prospect? And the answer is no.

Legacy shouldn’t really matter, it’s just a small bonus if a guy who’s your #1 at the position happens to be a legacy because he’s probably less likely to transfer and a little easier to recruit.

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Yeah that was the question exactly. Or even if a legacy should be preferred over a basically equal prospect, if being a legacy actually made it a safer recruit because maybe they are more likely to be "bleed for the program" or whatever. But I guess you sort of confirm this with the "less likely to transfer" part.

And yeah I guess it does give you a leg up recruiting him in the first place.

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  On 4/30/2019 at 3:00 PM, Valmy77 said:

Yeah that was the question exactly. Or even if a legacy should be preferred over a basically equal prospect, if being a legacy actually made it a safer recruit because maybe they are more likely to be "bleed for the program" or whatever. But I guess you sort of confirm this with the "less likely to transfer" part.

And yeah I guess it does give you a leg up recruiting him in the first place.

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I'd say if two guys are truly tied, then the staff may lean towards a legacy because he's less likely to transfer (especially with all the new waivers the NCAA is giving out), but it's rare to have two prospects be truly equal.

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  On 4/29/2019 at 4:52 PM, Orange&White said:

I already feel plenty weird about devoting so much time and effort into following recruits and recruiting drama and having to read what $9.95ers have to say. The last thing I need to add to that is to get caught up in the drama between $9.95ers and their co-workers, bosses, and rivals.

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Kalen Thornton’s brothers didn’t really pan out.  I guess Kyle was alright.  Kenton transferred out IIRC.

Studdard and the Sendleins were good takes.  I think Austin had potential, but couldn’t stay healthy.

Kirk is talented, but always hurt.  Collin has been pretty good.

 

I like legacy takes.  Probably should’ve taken the first of Brewer’s kids since our QB recruiting has been ass for too long.

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  On 4/30/2019 at 7:29 PM, Machinator said:

I'm not sure how Stan Drayton is involved in this, but I'm sure he's got a good story behind it.

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He has strong (and not incorrect) opinions on Orlando as LB coach. I'm trying to think how to phrase this...Stan Drayton is the only thing standing in the way of Todd Orlando being Golfclap's El Guapo. In a way, all of us have an El Guapo to face.  For some, shyness might be their El Guapo.  For others, a lack of education might be their El Guapo. For Golfclap, Stan Drayton is his El Guapo, and Todd Orlando the LB coach is his Jefe.

 

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  On 4/30/2019 at 7:35 PM, SydneyCarton said:

He has strong (and not incorrect) opinions on Orlando as LB coach. I'm trying to think how to phrase this...Stan Drayton is the only thing standing in the way of Todd Orlando being Golfclap's El Guapo. In a way, all of us have an El Guapo to face.  For some, shyness might be their El Guapo.  For others, a lack of education might be their El Guapo. For Golfclap, Stan Drayton is his El Guapo, and Todd Orlando the LB coach is his Jefe.

 

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appropriately enough, this deserves a golf clap.

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  On 4/30/2019 at 7:35 PM, SydneyCarton said:

He has strong (and not incorrect) opinions on Orlando as LB coach. I'm trying to think how to phrase this...Stan Drayton is the only thing standing in the way of Todd Orlando being Golfclap's El Guapo. In a way, all of us have an El Guapo to face.  For some, shyness might be their El Guapo.  For others, a lack of education might be their El Guapo. For one, telling black people apart is his El Guapo. For Golfclap, Stan Drayton is his El Guapo, and Todd Orlando the LB coach is his Jefe.

 

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Added one more for you.

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I'm all for Orlando proving me wrong and developing our current guys into high octane versions of Emeke Egbule or Leroy Godfrey. Every position group on defense has shown improvement and development during the Herman era, except for LB. It honestly hasn't been a lack of talent/athleticism or scheme it's been technique and scouting/film work that's lacked. I will say that it certainly looks like the 2019 class LB was a big leap forward, and still looks to be a group that should produce A LOT of starts over the next few years with or without Floyd. 

 

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  On 4/30/2019 at 8:58 PM, HtownHorn said:
  On 4/30/2019 at 7:27 PM, Burt Macklin said:

Our LB recruiting has been a head scratcher 2 out of the last 3 years. 

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Uhh?

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[Burt] I can't believe we recruited a 5-star LB talent from California that had a latent spinal defect.  This staff makes such boneheaded moves! [/Macklin]

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Burt's probably referring to the fact that our sole off-the-ball linebacker take in 2018 might just be Anthony Wheeler 2.0, and our LB recruiting thus far in 2020 consists of swinging for the fences on a national recruit who has all the big dogs after him, whiffing on the 2020 version of Gbenda, and a Bishop Dunne player with questions about his ability to move in space.

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  On 4/30/2019 at 8:58 PM, HtownHorn said:

Uhh?

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You think taking Adeoye as the only true LB in the 2018 class after taking 0 HS LBs the year before was a good idea?

  On 4/30/2019 at 9:00 PM, Katfid54 said:

[Burt] I can't believe we recruited a 5-star LB talent from California that had a latent spinal defect.  This staff makes such boneheaded moves! [/Macklin]

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Lol. Because 2019 was obviously one of the 2 I was referring to.

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  On 4/30/2019 at 9:10 PM, Burt Macklin said:

You think taking Adeoye as the only true LB in the 2018 class after taking 0 HS LBs the year before was a good idea?

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To be fair, there's some FCB issues with this, too.  The only "big" miss by this staff I can remember on someone who should've been identified, prioritized, and landed is Dashaun White.  Are there others that I'm forgetting?

If Charlie's staff hadn't totally fucked the pooch on linebacker recruiting post-Malik, this staff's results wouldn't look as bad.  We've got young talent, it's just not ready to play, yet.  For the folks we've put on the field, we've had two big problems.  First, our developed depth chart consists of guys playing linebacker that either can't play the position well (Wheeler in 17 and 18) or who have bodies for other positions (McCulloch in '18 after spending the offseason beefing him up to play B-backer, and Roach in '18).  All of these are a Charlie problem, although Yancy and Co. should've spent the summer getting McCulloch ready for Mac instead of B-backer.  And they should've spent the summer getting Roach ready to play 4i instead of Rover.  Woof on both of those choices.  [Additional Note:  They've probably should've spent 17 and 18 summers getting Hager ready to play B-backer, too (and they should've spent the '17 summer trying to convince Naashon Hughes to quit football).  But now we're pretty far down a coulda/woulda/shoulda wormhole.]

Because of issue one, we've had to resort to JUCO stopgaps who are getting thrown into the fire before they're ready (Gary Johnson; probably Caleb Johnson this year; likely the FL transfer, too).  And its obvious that guys coming out of JUCO that are good-enough talent-wise to help are few and far between.

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  On 4/30/2019 at 9:23 PM, Katfid54 said:

To be fair, there's some FCB issues with this, too.  The only "big" miss by this staff I can remember on someone who should've been identified, prioritized, and landed is Dashaun White.  Are there others that I'm forgetting?

If Charlie's staff hadn't totally fucked the pooch on linebacker recruiting post-Malik, this staff's results wouldn't look as bad.  We've got young talent, it's just not ready to play, yet.  For the folks we've put on the field, we've had two big problems.  First, our developed depth chart consists of guys playing linebacker that either can't play the position well (Wheeler in 17 and 18) or who have bodies for other positions (McCulloch in '18 after spending the offseason beefing him up to play B-backer, and Roach in '18).  All of these are a Charlie problem, although Yancy and Co. should've spent the summer getting McCulloch ready for Mac instead of B-backer.  And they should've spent the summer getting Roach ready to play 4i instead of Rover.  Woof on both of those choices.  [Additional Note:  They've probably should've spent 17 and 18 summers getting Hager ready to play B-backer, too (and they should've spent the '17 summer trying to convince Naashon Hughes to quit football).  But now we're pretty far down a coulda/woulda/shoulda wormhole.]

Because of issue one, we've had to resort to JUCO stopgaps who are getting thrown into the fire before they're ready (Gary Johnson; probably Caleb Johnson this year; likely the FL transfer, too).  And its obvious that guys coming out of JUCO that are good-enough talent-wise to help are few and far between.

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It’s not just about the misses. It’s the number of offers and lack of contingency plans, especially in comparison to offers and contingency plans we have set up for most other positions.

 Bonitto was an outside backer, so he wouldn’t have solved our ILB problems. Charlie didn’t leave us in a great spot, that’s for sure. Getting GJ in 2017 was absolute money by Orlando. 

But only taking one ILB in 2018, especially an ILB who runs like a 4.9, was curious at best. We slow played White forever and failed to identify a Rover candidate we wanted to go after the whole cycle. Unsurprisingly, we now have no Rover on the roster and will likely be playing a guy who should be at Mac at Rover becuase of it.

now this year, Flowe is at the top of the list but hasn’t visited and even if he does visit, it’s still a total long shot. We already missed on White. The staff seems hot and cold with Scott, but even if we get him, he doesn’t have the speed for Rover and is a meh ILB prospect overall. And we just now offered that kid out of CA today. 

I get that it’s tough to recruit LB when your home state’s not giving you much, but the number of offers and guys we’ve recruited in 2018 and 2020 at ILB has definitely been a bit of a head scratcher so far. There’s still plenty of time for the staff to righ the ship for 2020, but as of yesterday, we only had 3 real targets for ILB: an LSU commit, an OOS 5 star, and a fall back in-state guy. 

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  On 4/30/2019 at 9:46 PM, Walden Ponderer said:

Nah. More likely to come from here:

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Oh I agree on the dealership. I was just looking for a red and black Raptor.

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  On 4/30/2019 at 9:10 PM, Burt Macklin said:

You think taking Adeoye as the only true LB in the 2018 class after taking 0 HS LBs the year before was a good idea?

Lol. Because 2019 was obviously one of the 2 I was referring to.

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2017 was a transition class and Texas got fucked on Murray because of Strong, but Herman adjusted with getting Johnson to fill a 2 year gap. They screwed the pooch on White, and Brown fucked us on Bonitto.

I wish they could have closed Henry, which would have helped make up for 2018.

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  On 4/30/2019 at 10:22 PM, HtownHorn said:

2017 was a transition class and Texas got fucked on Murray because of Strong, but Herman adjusted with getting Johnson to fill a 2 year gap. They screwed the pooch on White, and Brown fucked us on Bonitto.

I wish they could have closed Henry, which would have helped make up for 2018.

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Should have taken Will Honas, and not had White visit without getting offered 

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  On 4/30/2019 at 10:37 PM, Fud said:

Should have taken Will Honas, and not had White visit without getting offered 

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I can't tell if it's TO or Coach Herman, every year we've make some very questionable decisions on D in both recruiting and starters for Game 1. Also could not tell if our ability to blow every big lead we had this past season is on the O or the D.

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  On 5/1/2019 at 3:31 AM, Goodman said:

I can't tell if it's TO or Coach Herman, every year we've make some very questionable decisions on D in both recruiting and starters for Game 1. Also could not tell if our ability to blow every big lead we had this past season is on the O or the D.

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Please, no August injuries or first game suspensions.  

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  On 5/1/2019 at 4:54 AM, LTtxfan said:

Fyi:  Anthony Cook can't play in 1st Half vs La Tech due to 4th qtr targeting penalty in the Sugar Bowl.

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Maryland, BYU and Cal Berkeley still sting.  Wish Mr. Cook were playing early to help set the tone but experience for another cb is and will be necessary too.  

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