Texas Recruiting Notes 2020

[SLChorn 58]

Concerning Michael Henderson, I wonder if OU guaranteed him a shot at a certain position. We're we recruiting him as an athlete?

[Machinator 32103]

Just now, SLChorn said:

Concerning Michael Henderson, I wonder if OU guaranteed him a shot at a certain position. We're we recruiting him as an athlete?

They probably sold him on playing the Dimitri Flowers role

[Burt Macklin 19230]

2 minutes ago, Machinator said:

They probably sold him on playing the Dimitri Flowers role

This was my thought. OU has utilized a guy like Henderson better than almost any school in the country over the last 5 years, and Henderson always seemed pro-OU. It would've been good to have him in the class, but it's not much of a loss. I struggled to see him be all that useful in our O scheme. I doubt he could be a full time TE and we have too many other dynamic weapons to use him a ton as purely an H-back. 

[Machinator 32103]

Just now, Burt Macklin said:

This was my thought. OU has utilized a guy like Henderson better than almost any school in the country over the last 5 years, and Henderson always seemed pro-OU. It would've been good to have him in the class, but it's not much of a loss. I struggled to see him be all that useful in our O scheme. I doubt he could be a full time TE and we have too many other dynamic weapons to use him a ton as purely an H-back. 

Apparently we sold him on playing the LJH role

[Burt Macklin 19230]

5 minutes ago, Bevo said:

I was responding more to the analyst, Roach, who said, "Jordan is pretty open at this point, but Texas is pitching him on playing a hybrid running back/slot role". I would imagine we said the same thing to Mookie ie. jet sweeps and reverses and slot receiver.

I mean I guess but I'd say Jordan would be utilized like Whittington, while Mookie will be utilized like Jake Smith. They're overlapping skillsets but pretty different uses in this offense, so theirs easily room for both and I doubt it will be a problem to recruit both.

[Burt Macklin 19230]

1 minute ago, Machinator said:

Apparently we sold him on playing the LJH role

Interesting. I don't see that one at all. He's not quick/dynamic enough to play that much receiver IMO. He seems to me like a guy that will play at like 6'2, 245 and I don't see any way he could make it in the slot, but oh well. 

[Machinator 32103]

Just now, Burt Macklin said:

Interesting. I don't see that one at all. He's not quick/dynamic enough to play that much receiver IMO. He seems to me like a guy that will play at like 6'2, 245 and I don't see any way he could make it in the slot, but oh well. 

I don't think he would make it there either, but it's probably the most tangible sell the coaching staff has for an athlete like him right now.

[satyanash 15597]

Rivals seems to think Troy Omeire's name is actually "Tony". It's been misspelled as such multiple times in their tweets/

[Pato del Muerto 53484]

16 minutes ago, Machinator said:

I don't think he would make it there either, but it's probably the most tangible sell the coaching staff has for an athlete like him right now.

I can’t imagine why they wouldn’t want to sell him on being the next Andrew beck

[Napoleon 8831]

28 minutes ago, Machinator said:

Apparently we sold [Henderson] on playing the LJH role

Re: the word “SOLD”...

[Happy Gilmore 1004]

1 hour ago, Machinator said:

Henderson commits to Oklahoma.

 

Another iffy take on their part. 

[Bruh Man 3160]

Prince could have dropped once they got his actual height. He was listed at 6'4 for awhile.

[satyanash 15597]

1 minute ago, Happy Gilmore said:

Another iffy take on their part. 

Fullback is a pretty important part of blOU's offense as they currently run it.

[Happy Gilmore 1004]

1 minute ago, satyanash said:

Fullback is a pretty important part of blOU's offense as they currently run it.

Just saying when I watched him he wasn't that impressive. 

[Burt Macklin 19230]

1 hour ago, satyanash said:

Rivals seems to think Troy Omeire's name is actually "Tony". It's been misspelled as such multiple times in their tweets/

Well considering they posted a non-existent recruit on their site a couple weeks ago, I’d say that theyre making progress.

[texifornia 59014]

3 hours ago, Machinator said:

Henderson commits to Oklahoma.

 

[Elmer_Fudd 22993]

OU mod had a tweet of the whole group visiting from the Jr. Day yesterday and I didn't see Umanmielen in it.

[satyanash 15597]

Odd/interesting take from Justin Wells. I think he, like Rivals, was maybe expecting Dorbah to be a bit taller/longer than 6' 2"? At the very least, 6' 2" and 210 lbs. sounds like he'll be a good linebacker/pure pass rusher even if he can't play other spots on the D-line. But it is in tweener territory.

Apparently he's also a year old for his age.

Edited February 24, 2019 by satyanash

[TommyGufano 6023]

2 minutes ago, satyanash said:

Odd take from Justin Wells. I think he, like Rivals, was maybe expecting Dorbah to be a bit taller/longer than 6' 2"? At the very least, 6' 2" and 210 lbs. sounds like he'll be a good B-backer even if he can't play other spots on the D-line.

 

Apparently he's also a year old for his age.

The man is a walking paradox

Edited February 24, 2019 by TommyGufano

[bEastTexas 497]

1 minute ago, satyanash said:

Odd/interesting take from Justin Wells. I think he, like Rivals, was maybe expecting Dorbah to be a bit taller/longer than 6' 2"? At the very least, 6' 2" and 210 lbs. sounds like he'll be a good B-backer/pure pass rusher even if he can't play other spots on the D-line.

Apparently he's also a year old for his age.

I’ve seen the being a year older deal reported before, that shouldn’t matter for Texas though and obviously doesn’t with the way we are recruiting him. 

[lemonandaturd 4289]

2 minutes ago, TommyGufano said:

The man is a walking paradox

Measurements at camps.  Fuck, Fuck, Fuckity, Fuck.  

[Burt Macklin 19230]

12 minutes ago, satyanash said:

Odd/interesting take from Justin Wells. I think he, like Rivals, was maybe expecting Dorbah to be a bit taller/longer than 6' 2"? At the very least, 6' 2" and 210 lbs. sounds like he'll be a good linebacker/pure pass rusher even if he can't play other spots on the D-line. But it is in tweener territory.

Apparently he's also a year old for his age.

I don’t get people worried about his size. Von Miller is 6’3, 250 in the NFL right now. Clay Matthews was around the same. Dorbah’s size won’t be an issue at all at B-backer. 

[GRHorn 105]

8 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

I don’t get people worried about his size. Von Miller is 6’3, 250 in the NFL right now. Clay Matthews was around the same. Dorbah’s size won’t be an issue at all at B-backer. 

Yeah I’m not concerned either. 6’2” is plenty big as HS JR. His explosiveness looks elite. 

[billfromlaketravis 11820]

29 minutes ago, satyanash said:

Odd/interesting take from Justin Wells. I think he, like Rivals, was maybe expecting Dorbah to be a bit taller/longer than 6' 2"? At the very least, 6' 2" and 210 lbs. sounds like he'll be a good linebacker/pure pass rusher even if he can't play other spots on the D-line. But it is in tweener territory.

Apparently he's also a year old for his age.

Justin Wells is an unabashed James Sylvester super fan. I'm not surprised.  

[maninblack 7975]

4 hours ago, Machinator said:

https://247sports.com/Player/Marvin-Mims-46049311/

Justed watched his highlight and I'll allow it

[Bodacious Bevo 3691]

Uncle Ro came dressed for the occasion

[satyanash 15597]

24 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

I don’t get people worried about his size. Von Miller is 6’3, 250 in the NFL right now. Clay Matthews was around the same. Dorbah’s size won’t be an issue at all at B-backer.  

The difference isn't that trivial, every bit of length helps when you're trying to add bulk/grapple with OTs.

With regards to Wells, he probably sees Ossai as the ideal for the position in terms of length/size, and Sylvester's measurements are closer to Ossai's. B-backer is technically supposed to be a hybrid spot, he'll have his hand in the dirt and will at times drop into pass coverage as well. Lots of roles to fill.

Edited February 25, 2019 by satyanash

[Enchubben 5600]

11 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Justin Wells is an unabashed James Sylvester super fan. I'm not surprised.  

Wells is a huge East Texas homer and is biased accordingly in his evaluations.

[canadianhorn21 970]

teammate of Ringo.

https://247sports.com/Player/Damian-Sellers-46050068/

 

[Wishbone 4958]

2 minutes ago, canadianhorn21 said:

teammate of Ringo.

https://247sports.com/Player/Damian-Sellers-46050068/

 

Love this staff. Doin’ work like we’ve not seen, maybe ever.

[Elmer_Fudd 22993]

8 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

Wells is a huge East Texas homer and is biased accordingly in his evaluations.

Sylvester is more likely to end up a 4i than a b-backer.

[Elmer_Fudd 22993]

7 minutes ago, canadianhorn21 said:

teammate of Ringo.

https://247sports.com/Player/Damian-Sellers-46050068/

 

Haven't looked at his tape but is he more of a true LB or a pass rusher?

[CastHorn 902]

1 minute ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Haven't looked at his tape but is he more of a true LB or a pass rusher?

He’s about 6’4 and a little under 220. He plays with his hand in the dirt in HS. His get off is terrible, the Defensive tackles beat him off the line. I wonder if they think he’s athletic enough to play B Backer.

[Bevo 13879]

9 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Haven't looked at his tape but is he more of a true LB or a pass rusher?

Tape shows him playing with his hand on the ground. He doesn't look that tall in his highlights so he may be somewhat of a Dorbah clone.

Edited February 25, 2019 by Bevo

[cochamps 1885]

33 minutes ago, maninblack said:

Justed watched his highlight and I'll allow it

Yeah, I’ve watched him several times.  Do want.

[Beau Vine 55863]

5 hours ago, Bodacious Bevo said:

I mean, Wright collapsed the pocket in both of those reps. I don't get how Majors looks good if he's getting pushed into the QBs backside in less than 2 seconds. Interior pressure is often more about collapsing the pocket early and forcing the QB out of the pocket than it is about the DT getting sacks. 

Maybe you haven't noticed, but Sam has significantly more mobility in the pocket than that cone.  

[Wishbone 4958]

45 minutes ago, maninblack said:

Justed watched his highlight and I'll allow it

Anybody have any track numbers on this guy?

[Bodacious Bevo 3691]

9 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Maybe you haven't noticed, but Sam has significantly more mobility in the pocket than that cone.  

I can't tell if this is a serious response 

[sushihorn 3249]

1 hour ago, Burt Macklin said:

I don’t get people worried about his size. Von Miller is 6’3, 250 in the NFL right now. Clay Matthews was around the same. Dorbah’s size won’t be an issue at all at B-backer. 

He's probably was bigger at his FB playing weight as a HS junior than OU's Striker was as a college upperclassman.

[Vertigo 20492]

1 hour ago, Bodacious Bevo said:

Uncle Ro came dressed for the occasion

Those pics are actually pretty bad ass.

[Beau Vine 55863]

6 hours ago, GRHorn said:

The immediate comp that comes to mind for me is Erick Fowler.  Hope he has a better head on his shoulders. (How could he not?)

Ted Williams has a better head on his shoulders than Fowler. 

[futureman 22698]

6 hours ago, GRHorn said:

The immediate comp that comes to mind for me is Erick Fowler.  Hope he has a better head on his shoulders. (How could he not?)

he’s an ivory coast refugee and now he’s being raised in highland park.  he has an incredible work ethic and an incredible support system.  his head is 5 star. 

and why can’t we take both him and sylvester?

[Elmer_Fudd 22993]

1 hour ago, Bodacious Bevo said:

Uncle Ro came dressed for the occasion

Eaton would need some Yancy time if he comes here.  Alford looks pretty stout.

[Bodacious Bevo 3691]

Just now, Elmer_Fudd said:

Eaton would need some Yancy time if he comes here.  Alford looks pretty stout.

Speaking of Eaton, Chad Simmons at Rivals said he's putting in his FutureCast (Rivals CB) for Eaton to Texas. He said that it might not happen for awhile but that he thinks Eaton will choose the good guys.

[Machinator 32103]

11 minutes ago, futureman said:

he’s an ivory coast refugee and now he’s being raised in highland park.  he has an incredible work ethic and an incredible support system.  his head is 5 star. 

and why can’t we take both him and sylvester?

Staff isn't interested in Sylvester, for whatever reason

[LTtxfan 50001]

6 hours ago, closetojumping said:

The noise regarding rankings for Dorbah is to be ignored. He’s a b-backer at Texas and he’ll be excellent. 

I wonder if Omeire will run something better than a 4.8 today at this camp?

It’s going to be interesting to see if Texas finds a pure speed WR for the outside in this class. Is there one in-state? Doesn’t look like it. 

+1

Interested to see what speedsters Texas is recruiting at WR for 2020 as well.....

[Post Oak 20564]

Not much interest in Newton the last few years.  Wonder why?

[satyanash 15597]

1 minute ago, Post Oak said:

Not much interest in Newton the last few years.  Wonder why?

Yarr, there be handlers

Edited February 25, 2019 by satyanash

[Dbeasy 15594]

Fowler reminds me of something we should all be excited about. A very high percentage of five star players pan out to at least some extent. Most four star players pan out, but there is a fairly significant percentage that don’t, often because of mental issues.

Fowler was the perfect example. Strong made a ton of mistakes in selecting four stars that didn’t pan out, because he didn’t properly vet the players before giving them a slot. We are in a much better place now with Herman and staff. They will still have misses, but not nearly as bad as Strong.

[Burt Macklin 19230]

1 hour ago, satyanash said:

The difference isn't that trivial, every bit of length helps when you're trying to add bulk/grapple with OTs.

With regards to Wells, he probably sees Ossai as the ideal for the position in terms of length/size, and Sylvester's measurements are closer to Ossai's. B-backer is technically supposed to be a hybrid spot, he'll have his hand in the dirt and will at times drop into pass coverage as well. Lots of roles to fill.

What difference? 6’2 and 6’3? If you’re talking about weight the. You’re just being your usual self and ignoring all reason for the sake of pessimism. He’s 210 his junior year of HS while playing basketball. He can easily play college at 235+ like both those guys did. Tyus Bowser was 6’3, 205 coming out of HS and played B-backer at an extremely high level in Orlando’s defense at 6’3, 235. Dorbah’s size is not an issue in the slightest.

and Orlando doesn’t use his b-backer much as a hand in the dirt DE tasked with taking on an OT in the run game. At most, he has his b-backer shoot a gap, which Dorbah will be fine with. He uses the b-backer more in coverage and Dorbah looks to have plenty of athleticism to drop or run over to cover a bubble screen.