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1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

Nevermind the fact that, this year of all year, LSU is going heavy out of state in recruiting and even their recruiting reporters and fanbase are elated at this development. But yes, lets fuck the kids in that state who, even less this year than any other, are going to get a scholarship to play football at LSU. It's fucking despicable. 

Herman should mensa Orgeron's gravel chewing ass and hold 2 camps in towns on the Texas side of the border and the Mississippi side. 

 

Woodville or Natchez, MS and Newton or Nederland, TX

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Herman should mensa Orgeron's gravel chewing ass and hold 2 camps in towns on the Texas side of the border and the Mississippi side. 

 

Woodville or Natchez, MS and Newton or Nederland, TX

I was about to poopoo on Natchez. but they have pretty good football facilities. And with the gambling boat and the touristy stuff, they have the hotels and other stuff to support a pretty nice camp. 

Eat at The Magnolia Grill Under the Hill. 

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Jeff Howe: Defining nearly two decades of Texas recruiting success, failure

There’s no absolutely correct way to quantify the ultimate success or failure of a recruiting class. With that said, we’ve decided to take our best shot at putting numbers and percentage to back up whether Texas recruiting classes going back 20 years have made a positive impact or been a detriment to the program.

Beginning with the first signing class Mack Brown announced in February 1998, Horns247 has tweaked a formula for determining success rates and bust rates of a recruiting class first brought to the table on the Longhorn Blitz podcast several years ago. Each of the players in the 16 recruiting classes (1998-2013) where the data is complete (classes 2014 and 2015 aren’t complete yet) broken into five categories: NFL-caliber players, starting-caliber players, positive impact players, busts and players who don’t factor into the percentages (an explanation of the categories and examples of players in them will follow).

The data, which Horns247 will cull through throughout the summer, will provide explanations of how and why Brown’s impressive run was possible, why things fell off late in Brown’s tenure and remained that way under Charlie Strong and what Tom Herman needs to do in order to make sure things truly get back on track.

NFL-caliber players

This category is pretty self-explanatory, but there’s also some nuance involved in determining who goes here. Yes, this category is where the 57 NFL draft picks these recruiting classes have combined to produce (13 first-round picks) go, a list that stretches from the likes of Mike Williams (first round, 2002), Cory Redding (third round, 2003) and Marcus Tubbs (first round, 2004) who signed with Texas in the late 90s all the way to the recent draft picks like Malcom Brown (first round, 2015), Geoff Swaim (seventh round, 2015) and Hassan Ridgeway (fourth round, 2016).

Beyond the draft picks is where it takes some subjectivity to determine who else belongs. We determined that if a player made an active NFL roster as an undrafted free agent (from Ahmad Brooks and Marcus Wilkins to Tyrone Swoopes and Kent Perkins) they count toward the NFL-caliber hit percentage of a class. Also, players count in this category if they made at least one appearance in a regular-season NFL game (Eddie Jones, Nate Jones and David Snow), spent at least one year as an official member of a team’s practice squad (James Kirkendoll, Jaxon Shipley, Cedric Reed and John Chiles are thus considered NFL-caliber players) or spent at least one full year on a team’s injured reserve list (Kyle Hix, Chris Warren III).

We also put guys in this category who were afforded multiple chances to make a roster. Michael Huey, for example, was brought in by five different franchises over parts of four seasons between successful stints in the Arena Football League. The bottom line is this category should be reserved for players the NFL values, which in turn means they should be the top guys on the roster (as the research will show, however, not all NFL-caliber players are created equal and a high number of undrafted free agent hits in one class isn’t necessarily a good thing).

Highest Percentage of a Signing Class: 46.7% of 15 signees in 2005 (Colt McCoy, Jamaal Charles, Jermichael Finley, Roy Miller, Roddrick Muckelroy, Henry Melton and Quan Cosby)

Starting-Caliber Players

Ideally, a recruiting class should aim to have at least a 25-percent hit rate of NFL guys and anything in the first category over 30 percent is tremendous (the 2002-2005 classes were all over 30 percent, as we there 2007 and 2008 classes). The goal in the second category (guys who might have had injury or something else that kept them from being valued by the NFL but were multiple-year starters for the Longhorns and were good, dependable players) should be to get a percentage when combined with the NFL hit rate results in a hit rate close to (or preferably over) 50 percent.

Guys in this category from over the past two decades include Antwan Kirk-Hughes, Tillman Holloway, Dakari Pearson, Will Allen, Aaron Harris, Larry Dibbles, Billy Pittman, Cedric Dockery, Rashad Bobino, Ryan Palmer, Chris Hall, Charlie Tanner, Blaine Irby, Cody Johnson, Mason Walters, Mike Davis, Dominic Espinosa, Steve Edmond, Johnathan Gray and Peter Jinkens. The aforementioned former Longhorns are prime examples of players who might not have been able to carve out a career playing professional football, but any Texas fan who has followed the team over the last 20 years should be able to immediately recall the contributions they made.

Highest Percentage of a Signing Class: 33.3% of 18 qualifying signees in 1998 (Kirk-Hughes, Lee Jackson, Ervis Hill, Beau Trahan, Tyrone Jones and Everick Rawls)

Positive Impact Players

This category is for Longhorns who were either part-time starters during their time at Texas, became reliable backup players, made it in the program at least three seasons before moving on while making a contribution on the field or (at the very least) earned a varsity letter and graduated. In other words, the players in this group contributed something of substance before either graduating and moving on from football or heading elsewhere to finish their career and the Texas coaches got something of note out of the scholarship used on the player.

A program shouldn't want too many players in this category because (as the to-be-published class-by-class breakdowns will show) the groups in each class feature a lot of highly-recruited prospects who weren’t busts, but didn’t come close to hitting their ceiling for one reason or another. Former Longhorns who fit in this group include Jermaine Anderson, Montrell Flowers, O.J. McClintock, Stevie Lee, Matt Nordgren, Alfio Randall, Bryan Pickryl, Tyrell Gatewood, Peter Ullman, Ben Alexander, Christian Scott, Tray Allen, Luke Poehlmann, Ryan Roberson, Barrett Matthews, Greg Daniels, Demarco Cobbs, Leroy Scott, Dalton Santos, Camrhon Hughes and Jake Oliver.

Highest Percentage of a Signing Class: 45.5% of 22 recruits in 2011 (Scott, Josh Turner, Sheroid Evans, Miles Onyegbule, Kendall Thompson, M.J. McFarland, Marcus Hutchins, Tevin Jackson, Chet Moss and Joe Bergeron)

Busts

How do you define a bust? We defined it as players who were in the program for two or fewer seasons (or didn’t make through a third) and either transferred, were dismissed for disciplinary reasons or washed out due to academics. The only players who didn’t fall into the bust category who could have based on the criteria were Ramonce Taylor (a key piece to a national championship-winning squad) and Garrett Gilbert (started 15 games at quarterback and left Texas with a degree).

We also included signees who either didn’t earn a varsity letter or who contributed virtually nothing during their time in the program (typically, less than 10 games played or no to minimal statistics could be found during the years when they were members of the program). Essentially, we’ve defined a bust as a player who, for all intents and purposes, could’ve or should’ve had their scholarship allocated to another player who would’ve made better use of the roster spot based on how things turned out.

Highest Percentage of a Signing Class: 46.7% of 15 signees in 2013 (Darius James, Deoundrei Davis, Rami Hammad, Desmond Harrison, Chevoski Collins, Erik Huhn and Montrel Meander)

Players Who Do Not Count

There are some cases where a signee wasn’t factored into the total number of players who counted toward the percentages of the aforementioned groups in a particular class. If a player failed to qualify academically, suffered a non-football-related injury or ailment or chose to play another sport (i.e., they were drafted to play professional baseball), they didn’t count toward the percentages of a particular class.

Three signees factored into later classes after not qualifying with their original class: Alfio Randall (signed in 1999, arrived from junior college in 2001), Aaron Ross (signed in 2001 and 2002, enrolled for good in 2003), Quan Cosby (signed a pro baseball contract in 2001, made it to Texas in 2005) and Tevin Jackson (signed in 2010, enrolled for good in 2011). Four signees currently aren’t being counted toward the data for their classes due to various medical issues.

 

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Darius Terrell's 2020 early top 25. I like that he ignores groupthink and has his guys on there, although I think Collins, Garth, Kimber, and Jones need to be on there, and arguably Princely, Prince, White, and Parr. But who do you take off? I actually like Medford enough to consider keeping him in the top 25. I'd drop Flagg, Mims, Bradford, and Smith off the list to add the first four.

The state is really deep this year, so making a strict top 25 is probably tough, especially if you're really high on some guys who most wouldn't put in the top 40. 

1. Zach Evans
2. Drew Sanders
3. Ja'quinden Jackson
4. Vernon Broughton
5. Demond Demas
6. Quentin Johnston
7. Jase McClellan
8. Nathan Anderson
9. Haynes King
10. Chad Lindberg
11. Troy Omeire
12. Hudson Card
13. Bryson Washington
14. Xavion Alford
15. Caleb Medford
16. Kitan Crawford
17. Chris Thompson
18. Jaxon Smith-Njigba
19. Marvin Mims
20. Devontre Bradford
21. Seth McGowan
22. Jalin Conyers
23. Corey Flagg
24. Jake Majors
25. EJ Smith

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11 hours ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Kendall Milton taking his 1st OV to LSU June 7th-9th.

Seems like a five team race, with all five teams having a legitimate shot; OU, LSU, Bama, Georgia, and Ohio State, in no particular order.

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Chip Brown: UT satellite camp in Louisiana shot down... again

 

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For the third straight year, Tom Herman attempted to have a summer satellite football camp in Louisiana near Baton Rouge but has been unable to find a facility willing to cooperate with the Longhorns, sources told Horns247. “We’ve tried to have a camp near Baton Rouge every year that Ed Orgeron has been at LSU,” one team source said. “We had been told yes a few times, only to have university officials over there or Louisiana lawmakers shut it down before it got off the ground. It’s really a shame for all the kids in Louisiana who aren’t considered ‘LSU good.’ It robs them of exposure to any level of out-of-state school.”

Texas has tried to hold camps at Louisiana College, Southeastern Louisiana, St. Thomas Aquinas and Madison Prep High schools. All of Texas’ camp plans with those schools were eventually canceled. Hal Mumme, the former coach at Division III Belhaven University who planned to partner with Texas for a camp at St. Thomas Aquinas in Baton Rouge in 2017, accused LSU and coach Ed Orgeron with organizing an effort to pressure all local facilities not to host a camp involving the Longhorns.

 

It's important to remember that Chip Brown is a fraudulent cocksucker who has written fake stories to harm the University and its football team.

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With a couple of chaotic households with children running around we're going to bullet point this. Plus it's hard typing with Justin's right hand on the home keys and mine on the left. Then you have precocious Joe asleep at the wheel when we need the mouse.

Before we dive into these chaotic recruiting waters, I'll note that I'm going to try and piece together something on the team for tomorrow, even if it's a non-update update.

STATE OF RECRUITING 

With the state track meet in town this weekend, coupled with a JUCO LB taking an official visit and a pair of 2021 defensive line targets from East Texas visiting, there always seems to be something going down in the ATX.

- Grad Transfers. After hosting Florida grad transfer LB Kylan Johnson (Dallas Skyline) recently, Texas reached out to another member of Team Portal, Clemson RB Tavien Feaster. Alabama, East Carolina, Mississippi State, Oklahoma, and Virginia Tech have also been in contact with the 5-foot-11, 220-pound tailback. He tallied 1,330 rushing yards and 15 touchdowns on 222 carries, while adding 23 receptions for 183 yards and a score in his time with the Tigers.

The key is getting Feaster on campus for a visit. If that gets setup, then this gets a little more serious. The commonly understood depth chart could help Texas here.

By the way, Nick Saban, trying to get Feaster from your nemesis Clemson and adding Major Applewhite to your staff, we know what you're up to buddy. That's why you're the best.

- 2020 Wide Receivers: Texas offered Midland Lee’s Loic Fouonji this week. The three-star wide receiver and four-sport standout that also competes in basketball, soccer, and track and field, holds offers from Colorado, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, and Texas Tech among the others.

At 6-foot-4, 190, the rising wide receiver is looking to set up another trip to Austin this summer after attending UT’s Junior Day Weekend in late February. The relationship is building and he checks all the boxes. Like with Gruver standout Jalin Conyers, Texas seems to be setting this up as a long-play.

Top target, Fort Bend Austin four-star Troy Omeire could be coming close to a decision following his Twitter activity. He’s been frequenting Austin lately, and his ever-important and heavily-involved mother likes the UT staff, but we’re hearing this might be more of a toss up with the chance Omeire pulls off the rare surprise in recruiting.

- Butler (KS) CC ILB Juwan Mitchell is already on campus for an official visit. The 6-foot-1, 235-pound Minnesota commit picked up his offer from the Longhorns last week, the second time UT has gone to Butler CC for a defender in the 2019 class (Jacoby Jones). And yes, Mitchell is a 2019 player with the ability to enroll in the first summer semester. He'll have three years to play two at the next level.

After Mitchell took an official visit to Fayetteville last weekend, UT decided to bring him in for a closer look. Given needs beyond just De'Gabriel Floyd's situation, it makes sense.

The feeling here is if UT wants him they'll get him. He says he's unsure if he'll take any more visits after this weekend.

We don't think Texas would take both Florida graduate transfer Kylan Johnson and Mitchell. Mitchell is likely on a job interview. Does UT want to invest multiple years with him as opposed to just one with Johnson? We shall see.

- 2020 Secondary Targets: Salpointe (AZ) safety Lathan Ransom will drop his Top 5 soon and we fully expect Texas to make the list. He’s also scheduled to visit the 40 Acres in late May for a few days. He’s reportedly said UT would not get one of his final officials, but let’s see what he says after a weekend in Austin.

Saguaro (AZ) is home to the nation’s top corner for ‘20 in Kelee Ringo. Well, the dude on the opposite side of the field, Jacobe Covington, has also caught the attention of the Texas staff. It’s unsure where he’d fit in the 2020 class, but any connection that could help with Ringo is a smart choice. There's a chance Covington becomes an offer.

John Tyler’s Kitan Crawford will be back in Austin running in the 4x100 relay at the state track meet for the Lions. After taking his SAT last weekend, the 2020 four-star corner is now set to take an official visit on June 21-22 on the Forty.

Texas A&M, OU, and Nebraska offered this week, and there’s a chance he may visit College Station or Norman. Right now, I’m still confident Crawford will be a Longhorn. He views Texas CB coach Jason Washington “like a father” and is constantly staying in contact with the Texas staff. I think bringing in Arlington High’s Jahari Rogers, another top CB target, for the same weekend seems like more strategic moves from Tom Herman.

- Two who are about to move recruiting to the front burner are Highland Park hybrid linebacker Prince Dorbah and Fort Bend Marshall wide receiver Devon Achane. Dorbah's been busy with school/test taking but will likely use an official visit to Texas in June. We have to keep an eye on LSU, and he'll likely take an official visit to Baton Rouge as well, but Texas is in a good spot.

On Achane, Texas was slightly late to the party but is in a decent position to make up ground because of offensive fit and the opportunity to run track. Track must be part of the sell if you want to land Achane. A&M may still be the favorite here, they're recruited him the longest, the hardest, and the track coaches have been all over him, but let's see what happens when he starts giving the process more attention. His focus on the track season where he's run blistering 200 meter teams could be fortunate for Texas. Joe Cook will try and catch up with Achane this weekend as he looks to win the state title that escaped him in football.

- 2020 linebacker recruiting remains a bit of a mystery. The staff will remain on LSU commit Josh White and there's still a chance he takes an official visit to Texas. My feeling is he'll stick with the Tigers but UT facing them in September is an interesting variable. "Hey Josh, why don't you come watch LSU play on our dime?"

The staff offered Southern California's Kourt Williams fairly recently. He says he's unsure if he'll take a visit to Texas, which isn't normally the most positive sign.

We don't feel there's any reason to worry about linebacker recruiting, we're just offering what we know of a couple known targets. I'm sure the staff is working some interesting angles per the usual. We'll try and find out what those are.

- Texas will be hosting a pair of 2021 defensive linemen from Pleasant Grove (Texarkana, TX) for unofficials as four-stars Landon Jackson and Marcus Burris make the trek. We’ve recently visited and written about the duo from East Texas, with Jackson holding a UT offer and Burris on offer watch. Both visited Austin for UT’s Junior Day, and told us last week they’d be back soon.

Texas has had three coaches stop by PG in the last two weeks - Todd Orlando, Derek Warehime, Oscar Giles - and have shown great interest in the duo. Don’t be surprised if Nick Martin jumps in the car. The 2021 RB/S picked up his first offer last week from UTSA, and has already visited A&M and Arkansas. At 6-foot-1, 180, Martin could project to safety at the next level. He’s caught UT’s eyes as well.

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Just now, texifornia said:

So does he thinks he's not a take for either school, or he's just in the dark? The phrasing is not super clear.

Sounds like the latter.

But I also don't know why everyone thinks this is necessarily a commitment. Could just as well be an all-star game announcement or a top X schools list.

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22 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Still want to make the biggest mistake of your life, Jaylon?

 

Eh, does it matter? We are in on some pretty big fish. At corner we are in on Ringo and Crawford and Jahari and at safety we are in on Alford, Washington, Ransom, and Thompson.

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