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5 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

That can't hurt right? I am assuming Ehlinger and Card are in his ear.

He and Card are on the same 7 on 7 team for the event

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On 6/29/2019 at 3:40 PM, Vertigo said:

Jordan Whittington. He would have been ahead of Cain on the depth chart from day 1. We just had some horrible luck with our RB2 in the class, who had just won top football player in georgia awards last season. Its not like we have JAGs next season. We just need another serviceable weapon to put into the rotation.

he would have been a WR if Cain had come here...

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17 minutes ago, NoName said:

he would have been a WR if Cain had come here...

He would have been a Swiss army knife, which he is (and which he showed in the state championship game).

Ultimately doesn't change the fact that he was recruited as a WR (with S being a possibility), not as a RB. But it wasn't just a move borne out of necessity.

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1 minute ago, satyanash said:

He would have been a Swiss army knife, which he is (and which he showed in the state championship game).

Ultimately doesn't change the fact that he was recruited as a WR (with S being a possibility), not as a RB. But it wasn't just a move borne out of necessity.

how is this, if Cain came here the RB room becomes:

SR: Kirk Johnson
JR: Daniel Young
SO: Keontay Ingram
FR: Cain*

while he would probably get some reps there, he would not likely get the majority of his reps there. 

it wasn't 100% a move out of necessity, but people around here act like he was "moved" to RB due to the State Championship game, playoffs, etc and seem to forget that having a RB room that was that thin played a huge huge huge part in him actually moving positions vs taking some reps there.

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2 hours ago, Longhorn94 said:

I know the coaches are countering the 4-3 arguments by pointing to a number of things: 1. Texas and Houston DL production; 2. Alabama and Georgia play similar schemes; 3. Elko learned his scheme under Orlando; 4. Orlando's scheme is at its best, like most D schemes, when the Dline is disruptive and penetrating; and 5. that we play multiple fronts 4 down, 3 down, no down depending on the situation in the same way that most NFL teams do. Most are listening but you can only do so much when the other side is paying. I havent heard about Broughton being Leal'd so I think there is still hope.

Help me out.... when and where did Elko learn his scheme under Orlando??

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Just now, LTtxfan said:

Help me out.... when and where did Elko learn his scheme under Orlando??

I'm guessing they mean that Elko played under Orlando at Penn in the late 90s - but Elko was a DB and Orlando coached LBs, so this isn't true?

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Help me out.... when and where did Elko learn his scheme under Orlando??

He played DB  at Penn when Orlando was a linebackers coach there, I guess?

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5 minutes ago, NoName said:

how is this, if Cain came here the RB room becomes:

SR: Kirk Johnson
JR: Daniel Young
SO: Keontay Ingram
FR: Cain*

while he would probably get some reps there, he would not likely get the majority of his reps there. 

it wasn't 100% a move out of necessity, but people around here act like he was "moved" to RB due to the State Championship game, playoffs, etc and seem to forget that having a RB room that was that thin played a huge huge huge part in him actually moving positions vs taking some reps there.

Just fucking stop. Kirk Johnson is a non entity until proven otherwise and daniel young is a fucking tackling dummy. Thats a fucking lie of a  representation.  

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2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Just fucking stop. Kirk Johnson is a non entity until proven otherwise and daniel young is a fucking tackling dummy. Thats a fucking lie of a  representation.  

He coudn't have thought his projected depth chart was very good. He wouldn't even put his name on it.

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1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

Just fucking stop. Kirk Johnson is a non entity until proven otherwise and daniel young is a fucking tackling dummy. Thats a fucking lie of a  representation.  

Look, I agree with you. Counting on Kirk and Danny Young is stupid. But in this case, they would have also had Cain and would not have moved JW full time to RB as far as we know.

Is it still a super thin RB room even if they had gotten a top RB 'cruit last year? Yes. 

Did they recruit him as a RB? no (primary recruiter was Mehringer)

DId they think he would be moved to RB as a recruit? no...or they would have recruited him as one.

Am I happy he shifted? absolutely. Dude has looked great there.

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5 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Just fucking stop. Kirk Johnson is a non entity until proven otherwise and daniel young is a fucking tackling dummy. Thats a fucking lie of a  representation.  

Tackling dummies don't fumble all the time.  Just sayin.

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10 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Help me out.... when and where did Elko learn his scheme under Orlando??

one of the coaches had mentioned it to me during the recruitment of the safety that switched commitments from ND to Aggy when Elko switched. He said that Elko learned his scheme under Orlando and they have been friends for a long time. But i had never looked it up until now. it looks like he played Rover at Penn while Orlando was the LB coach there. Rover is a hybrid safety/lb in that scheme but is coached by the LB coach. 

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Look, I agree with you. Counting on Kirk and Danny Young is stupid. But in this case, they would have also had Cain and would not have moved JW full time to RB as far as we know.
Is it still a super thin RB room even if they had gotten a top RB 'cruit last year? Yes. 
Did they recruit him as a RB? no (primary recruiter was Mehringer)
DId they think he would be moved to RB as a recruit? no...or they would have recruited him as one.
Am I happy he shifted? absolutely. Dude has looked great there.


You know they pitched him on RB well before he signed, right? Or are you just basing your argument off 247 profile info?
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3 minutes ago, Longhorn94 said:

one of the coaches had mentioned it to me during the recruitment of the safety that switched commitments from ND to Aggy when Elko switched. He said that Elko learned his scheme under Orlando and they have been friends for a long time. But i had never looked it up until now. it looks like he played Rover at Penn while Orlando was the LB coach there. Rover is a hybrid safety/lb in that scheme but is coached by the LB coach. 

+1.  (Out of Reps). Thx 🤘

 

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1 minute ago, Atticus said:

 


You know they pitched him on RB well before he signed, right? Or are you just basing your argument off 247 profile info?

 

dude.

i'm not new to recruiting, this thread, the 2019 thread or the old site. cut me some slack here, i am no newbie.

yes, they pitched him on playing multiple positions. not ONLY RB.

he was not recruited explicitly as a RB. originally he was recruited as Slot/H WR. that was mainly because he wanted to play offense, and lots of people thought he would end up on the other side of the ball, I believe one of the reasons Texas originally was seen as a leader for him was because they recruited him on offense vs defense. 

if you, or anyone else, thinks that the main/only reason he was shifted to be full time at RB was the playoffs and had very little/nothing to do with the RBs on the team, that is absolutely revisionist history.

 

Posted
32 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Help me out.... when and where did Elko learn his scheme under Orlando??

I am just spitballing here, but maybe when he played DB  at Penn when Orlando was a linebackers coach there?

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I feel like I posted this a few days ago, but the staff started talking to Whittington about playing RB well before they whiffed on Cain 

Posted
1 minute ago, Fud said:

I feel like I posted this a few days ago, but the staff started talking to Whittington about playing RB well before they whiffed on Cain 

you are correct, IIRC discussion was about him playing *some* RB - the swiss army knife kind of guy/position.

not playing *only* RB.

Posted
Just now, Ricky's one-hitter said:

I mean...it's a CB

He's committing in 9 days. It's always possible that we could be supremely bamboozled but this is one of the safer bets of the remaining undeclared guys. 

Posted
6 minutes ago, Walden Ponderer said:

Hey, can anybody help me out here?  I'm wondering if Elko was at Penn State at the same time that Orlando coached linebackers there.

You mean Pittsburgh?

Posted
1 minute ago, texifornia said:

The tea leaves couldn't be more aligned on this one.

I know that the good guys have terrific odds to land Dorbah with having all of the CBs, being the only OV, etc. But excuse me for not getting Gronk hyped for a CB on one player 9 days before a recently announced commitment when the class is half the size it should be at this point. I will show moderate celebration in 9 days.

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Just now, Ricky's one-hitter said:

I know that the good guys have terrific odds to land Dorbah with having all of the CBs, being the only OV, etc. But excuse me for not getting Gronk hyped for a CB on one player 9 days before a recently announced commitment when the class is half the size it should be at this point. I will show moderate celebration in 9 days.

No one said you had to lose your fucking mind, but it's okay to be somewhat positive every now and then. 

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7 minutes ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:

I know that the good guys have terrific odds to land Dorbah with having all of the CBs, being the only OV, etc. But excuse me for not getting Gronk hyped for a CB on one player 9 days before a recently announced commitment when the class is half the size it should be at this point. I will show moderate celebration in 9 days.

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15 minutes ago, UncleBuck said:

You mean Pittsburgh?

Elko played at University of Pennsylvania when Orlando coached there.

Todd Orlando

Coaching career (HC unless noted)
   
1996–1998 Penn (LB)
 

Mike Elko

Playing career
1995–1998 Penn
Position(s) Safety
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9 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Elko played at University of Pennsylvania when Orlando coached there.

Todd Orlando

Coaching career (HC unless noted)
   
1996–1998 Penn (LB)
 

Mike Elko

Playing career
1995–1998 Penn
Position(s) Safety

It was a jo0ke

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right before they took the team photo at the Univerisdad del Pensyltucky, where Corch Todd Orlandeaux was the defensive spacialist in charge of positionless football, and Elko was just a ruddy little upstart wunderkind guarding a spot of grass on the field, the cameraman leaned down to snap the shot and just before clicking the shutter, yelled out, "Say Cheese"

#ErrbodyConfirmed

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