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32 minutes ago, BigBenBamboozle said:

Pretty certain of two things:

1. Ingram/Whittington will put a bunch of that negative recruiting to bed this season, which will help tremendously next cycle. 

2. We ran Sam far too much in goal line situations that could have benefitted the RB perception in the TD department. That’s a reality when I watched games from last season: a lack of trust in the RB game in short yardage on key plays. 

None of that will matter in recruiting. Other teams will just come up with new negative recruiting pitches.

We’re getting outrecruited. It’s that simple.

23 minutes ago, satyanash said:

Zone read can get you the same numbers advantage... one less blocker, but also one less defender. We don't run it very often though.

Neither of these statements are correct.

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Back in the day when I was spending too much of my free time playing NCAA football dynasties on PS2 and I was too good to play with Texas over and over, I’d play with other smaller schools, but always check in on how Texas was doing in the future years. In one simulation, they had one of the best QBs in the country, but no RB depth, one guy rated 83, one rated 79, and then a walk-on. I thought there was no way in hell that could happen.

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11 hours ago, BigSwingingD said:

Good insight. Thank you.

Heres the answer: JUST FUCKING WIN.

Mensa needs to Mensa. Georgia more. Maryland less.

One point of contention here. While that was a big win and showed dominance of a overhyped conference, we 4th quartered like other games. No, we didn't barely beat them but we didn't finish. If there's a game to point to last  season for an example of what the standard should be imo, it's ISU. Would've liked more points but that game was over by halftime and they never let corn get its hopes up again. 

Play every game like that and people stop doubting. 

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46 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

 

Jimbo the QB Whiffer hasn't developed a QB since Jameis Winston but yet people still buy that load of shit from him. 

 

 

 

His QB recruiting at A&M has also been shitty. He may luck into King, but the fact that King hasn’t committed yet says a lot. 

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Back in the day when I was spending too much of my free time playing NCAA football dynasties on PS2 and I was too good to play with Texas over and over, I’d play with other smaller schools, but always check in on how Texas was doing in the future years. In one simulation, they had one of the best QBs in the country, but no RB depth, one guy rated 83, one rated 79, and then a walk-on. I thought there was no way in hell that could happen.

Oh how i miss the days of making the Hawaii Warriors the greatest dynasty in NCAA history.

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1 minute ago, EZ$ said:

His QB recruiting at A&M has also been shitty. He may luck into King, but the fact that King hasn’t committed yet says a lot. 

 

you beat me to it. I was about to say, King pending, there's no evidence to suggest anyone's still purchasing that shit. 

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3 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

I dont think so man. Coaches don’t want to know all the details. And everywhere is different. Its probably finding the right boosters to have the right conversations and do the work, but again I’m just speculating. At Clemson its a church. For Cam Newton it’s the uncle and a church. at Georgia it’s allegedly a car dealership. He cant just build a network by sheer will. I guarantee you Jumbo Fisher doesn’t want to know all the details, he just wants to yell at Dameyune Craig to get the kid to commit.

i would be Surprised to learn that despite being a colossal piece of shit, Urban knew at Ohio State or Florida every step of the operation. He doesn’t want to know. He wants to think he’s doing it himself and he’s a good Christian. 

At LSU it's casinos. Gotta get them tiger chips.

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34 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

None of that will matter in recruiting. Other teams will just come up with new negative recruiting pitches.

We’re getting outrecruited. It’s that simple.

Neither of these statements are correct.

Wrong. The problem is not our shitty RB coach, it's that Sam scored too many touchdowns. There's just no way to overcome that other than maybe writing a nice note to the other schools recruiting the same RBs as us and asking them to not bring that stuff up. 

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1 minute ago, Hank Scorpio said:

Wrong. The problem is not our shitty RB coach, it's that Sam scored too many touchdowns. There's just no way to overcome that other than maybe writing a nice note to the other schools recruiting the same RBs as us and asking them to not bring that stuff up. 

A tweet with plenty of emojis would probably be better recieved. 

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39 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

None of that will matter in recruiting. Other teams will just come up with new negative recruiting pitches.

We’re getting outrecruited. It’s that simple.

 

Is my sarcasm meter off? Or is the 2020 class the make it or break it despite the two previous classes? 

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1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

The negative recruiting excuse is just that, an excuse. Good recruiters can counter any negative pitch. The problem is we don't have good recruiters at RB & DL

 

 

 

I have no doubt we are negatively recruited.  What I doubt is that Drayton realizes we are being negatively recruited and that he attempts to counter it, or if he just pumps these guys full of sunshine hopes they sign on the dotted line.  The first thing that should happen after a targeted recruit visits another school is a phone call or visit from Drayton with an attempt to counter anything that was said or done to shed negative light on the program.  The problem is, we don't know what Drayton is doing or not doing.  All we know that whatever he is doing isn't working.

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1 hour ago, Machinator said:

We ran Sam because the numbers advantage that comes from using the QB as a runner greatly increased our chance at converting short yardage plays, given that we didn't have a really good RB or an above-average run-blocking O-line.

We didn't run QB power/stretch/draw etc. just because we could.

This is correct. Sam was our most efficient short yard runner last year. My hope is this year that goes to 220 LB Ingram. I don't think it's about yards so much as RZ touches with the RBs. You get Ingram to 15+ TDs and RBs will start to take notice again. I call it the "Wendell Brown" plan to recruiting.

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15 hours ago, Foosters said:

Is Emmitt Smith working right now? Have we thought about hiring him to be the RB coach? Think about it. The greatest running back to ever play sitting in the living rooms and talking game to kids. 

Speaking of Emmitt, is EJ Smith his son? What's the story on that recruitment? Would we start recruiting him harder if Bijan doesn't work out or is there just a lack of mutual interest?

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2 minutes ago, Luka Skywalker said:

He's been hanging with Branard Wright while at that camp.  I wonder if we fill up on some bread like the ags and take Wright. 

We're not going to take Wright. We'll take a 3-star with upside, not a tub of lard human cube.

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1 minute ago, Luka Skywalker said:

He's been hanging with Branard Wright while at that camp.  I wonder if we fill up on some bread like the ags and take Wright. 

Who he hangs out with isn't going to magically create a fucking commitable scholarship offer from Texas for Wright. 

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15 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

I didn’t know Ohio State was playing the game, but it makes sense. I don’t think OU is either to be honest, but I could be wrong. In case anyone hasn’t noticed, the major players are 

Alabama, Clemson, LSU, Oregon, Georgia, Aggy, Auburn, USC

I’m surprised Tennessee hasn’t made a bigger move. 

We're you sleeping during the Clarett years or hell the Jimmy Jackson years? tosu has always cheated, they are very similar to ou. I've done business with folks in that state since the late 90's and not one BMD there has ever pretended to care about football players being part of the student body. They just want their boys to win games.

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2 minutes ago, Goodman said:

We're you sleeping during the Clarett years or hell the Jimmy Jackson years? tosu has always cheated, they are very similar to ou. I've done business with folks in that state since the late 90's and not one BMD there has ever pretended to care about football players being part of the student body. They just want their boys to win games.

It doesn't seem like OU is outright buying players. They'll always have Big Red fake jobs to throw around, but they don't seem to be playing the game like Aggy, Clemson, Ohio St., Bama, Ole Miss, Oregon, etc. Is that incorrect?

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Just now, irishtexan said:

 but they don't seem to be playing the game like Aggy, Clemson, Ohio St., Bama, Ole Miss, Oregon, etc. Is that incorrect?

I think OU has realized along the way the recruiting landscape change in their biggest hotbed (Texas) since Aggy opened up the door to the SEC. I seriously think they're building up to it. 

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4 hours ago, satyanash said:

—Texas entered the 2020 cycle feeling like they were in a good spot with Zachary Evans. He was undoubtedly the top player on the board, and they were zeroed in on him as an in-state prospect. Things seemed to change with Evans this spring, and the saga has played out over the last few months. I can tell you that Texas isn’t going to stop recruiting Evans, and I think he’s going to listen. I wouldn’t really count anyone out for him until he’s ready to make his decision. I previously thought he was set on moving on with his top five, but I was wrong. I think the way the season plays out will have an impact on where he ends up.

The ability to use so many words to provide zero actual information is truly astounding.

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BigHorn'13

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19 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

It doesn't seem like OU is outright buying players. They'll always have Big Red fake jobs to throw around, but they don't seem to be playing the game like Aggy, Clemson, Ohio St., Bama, Ole Miss, Oregon, etc. Is that incorrect?

Based on some of their players? History? How about Tatum? I'd be shocked if they didn't. 

The difference is in the win column so while they'll pay, they have elite recruits commit just based on performance. Just my take

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6 minutes ago, BigHorn'13 said:

Based on some of their players? History? How about Tatum? I'd be shocked if they didn't. 

The difference is in the win column so while they'll pay, they have elite recruits commit just based on performance. Just my take

Tatum's mom is/was dating a ou coach no?

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3 hours ago, texifornia said:

Eh, Sam was better than the RBs down there. Young got a case of the fumbles, Ingram was already halfway run into the ground from his time at Carthage (which should be fixed after a full offseason this year), and Watson was reliable but not special. In any high-leverage situation Sam was clearly the best option.

we're not helping our case by that reasoning, true or not  egg meet chicken.

recruit: (via negative recruiting)  the run game is qb first, rb second.  goal line stats prove that.

us: that's because we don't have rb's of your caliber.

recruit: you don't have a rb that can gain 1 yard?  that's on your oline.

us: that's because we dont' have rb's of your caliber to offset our shitty oline.

recruit: 

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5 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

we're not helping our case by that reasoning, true or not  egg meet chicken.

recruit: (via negative recruiting)  the run game is qb first, rb second.  goal line stats prove that.

us: that's because we don't have rb's of your caliber.

recruit: you don't have a rb that can gain 1 yard?  that's on your oline.

us: that's because we dont' have rb's of your caliber to offset our shitty oline. 

recruit:

 

Nah, I agree recruiting-wise, but recruiting shouldn't dictate playcalling.

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