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  On 7/15/2019 at 12:57 PM, Bevo said:

But, that wasn't one of the reasons he gave. He stated DB coaching, mom, and doubts about our upcoming season.

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Most kids aren’t going to publicly admit the depth chart is a worry, it’s basically saying you fear you may not be good enough.

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My guess is VB's taking his talents to...Arkie, land of meth and swine, not to be confused with the land of meth and meth which is the land rapers and women beaters up north.  

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  On 7/15/2019 at 1:06 PM, LTtxfan said:

So if Texas DB's have a good season and Florida takes a step back, an in-state Texas player like Jahari  is a flip candidate... staying closer to home is often a recruiting advantage.

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Unless the easier road to playing time at Florida is a big draw to him. If that's part of the reason he's heading there in the first place, then a good season by our young DBs + whoever replaces him as a verbal isn't going to make him come to his senses.

 

But that's "IF" the depth chart is part of it. There's a case to be made, but I don't think we "know" that. 

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  On 7/15/2019 at 1:06 PM, LTtxfan said:

So if whenTexas DB's have a good season and Florida takes a step back, an in-state Texas player like Jahari  is a flip candidate... staying closer to home is often a recruiting advantage.

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FIFY

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  On 7/15/2019 at 1:06 PM, LTtxfan said:

So if Texas DB's have a good season and Florida takes a step back, an in-state Texas player like Jahari  is a flip candidate... staying closer to home is often a recruiting advantage.

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Fuck any player that leaves an offer from Texas behind in order to go play at Florida. If that’s where he commits, I’ll happily cheer against him with a vehement pettiness for the duration of his career. 

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  On 7/15/2019 at 1:33 PM, closetojumping said:

Fuck any player that leaves an offer from Texas behind in order to go play at Florida. If that’s where he commits, I’ll happily cheer against him with a vehement pettiness for the duration of his career. 

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I can't imagine having any strong feelings about post-Urban Florida football, but more power to you.

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  On 7/15/2019 at 1:34 PM, texifornia said:

I can't imagine having any strong feelings about post-Urban Florida football, but more power to you.

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That’s the point. Florida is a shit place to choose over Texas. Making that decision is fucking stupid and easy to cheer against. I don’t give one fuck otherwise about UF. 

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Posted
  On 7/15/2019 at 1:48 PM, theaveragejon said:

is Florida DB development really been better than ours? Can’t think of a good Florida, in the NFL, CB since like  Joe haden? 

And didnt they run off their west coast CB in like 3 months?

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Their depth chart is wide open after two CBs left, including the kid from Cali that was there for 2 months.

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  On 7/15/2019 at 1:34 PM, texifornia said:

I can't imagine having any strong feelings about post-Urban Florida football, but more power to you.

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Meh, FL is a good school and a fun place to go.  Damn good in fact.  Latest USN rankings have them @ 35.  We're @ 49.  Aggie is a negative number.  Still trying to sort that one out....

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  On 7/15/2019 at 1:56 PM, BabaYaga said:

Meh, FL is a good school and a fun place to go.  Damn good in fact.  Latest USN rankings have them @ 35.  We're @ 49.  Aggie is a negative number.  Still trying to sort that one out....

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Exactly, it's fine. No strong feelings either way.

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  On 7/15/2019 at 1:48 PM, theaveragejon said:

is Florida DB development really been better than ours? Can’t think of a good Florida, in the NFL, CB since like  Joe haden? 

And didnt they run off their west coast CB in like 3 months?

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Torrian Gray probably has a stronger track record than Jason Washington when it comes to producing NFL draft picks at DB.

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  On 7/15/2019 at 1:04 PM, SydneyCarton said:

Lots of Mack’s recruits were 5 star types, and I think a lot were more technically sound out of HS. So it lends to the question of us Giles any good, or does he just do good with good talent. 

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I wasn’t at the age to pay super close attention to the development of the DL during Giles’ first stint at texas, but in looking at his DLs at UH and here the last two years, it’s hard to see how Giles shouldn’t at least be considered solid at coaching his position. 

UH’s DL performed well both years under him, even before they got Oliver, and our DLs have been pretty good under him, even last year when we were lacking some depth and talent.

Poona had his best year by far under Giles, Omenihu developed, Nelson got better. Hager sucked, but Jesus Christ himself could’ve come back to coach the DL and Hager’s play still would’ve been more antichrist than savior. 

I agree it’ll be interesting to see how guys recruited for, I mean, by Giles develop, but barring them absolutely bombing, I think Giles has to be given an above average grade for coaching his position.  And some of the guys recruited by Giles already seem to be developing, like Ossai and Coburn.

 Taquon Graham will probably be the best immediate test case. He’s going into his third year under Giles and has the physical tools to be great, but it hasn’t fully clicked for him yet.

  On 7/15/2019 at 1:54 PM, Bevo said:

We should clean up at WR and LB.

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Are you trying to say you think our WR depth chart is wide open?

Idk if I can agree with that. I haven’t seen any WR recruits say on the record that’s the reason they committed to Texas.

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  On 7/15/2019 at 12:33 PM, Machinator said:
Hate to do this on a potential day of celebration, but Super K says it's going to be Florida for Jahari Rogers.

Bummer, but DL is more important than corner in this cycle. Especially with Crawford already in the fold.

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  On 7/15/2019 at 2:29 PM, Ricky's one-hitter said:

How realistic is this class which excludes a late blooming lb and a RB flip? Besides those, is a corner all that's left to add? Eaton?

https://ibb.co/HGjjd9d (can't embed it)

Am I missing or too bullish on anyone besides Wilson? I left off Achane in favor of QJ.

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To embed an imgbb link, hit "HTML full linked" from the drop down Embed Codes menu, and you should see the address you need to copy in the middle of all the extraneous fluff.

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  On 7/15/2019 at 2:23 PM, Burt Macklin said:

I wasn’t at the age to pay super close attention to the development of the DL during Giles’ first stint at texas, but in looking at his DLs at UH and here the last two years, it’s hard to see how Giles shouldn’t at least be considered solid at coaching his position. 

UH’s DL performed well both years under him, even before they got Oliver, and our DLs have been pretty good under him, even last year when we were lacking some depth and talent.

Poona had his best year by far under Giles, Omenihu developed, Nelson got better. Hager sucked, but Jesus Christ himself could’ve come back to coach the DL and Hager’s play still would’ve been more antichrist than savior. 

I agree it’ll be interesting to see how guys recruited for, I mean, by Giles develop, but barring them absolutely bombing, I think Giles has to be given an above average grade for coaching his position.  And some of the guys recruited by Giles already seem to be developing, like Ossai and Coburn.

 Taquon Graham will probably be the best immediate test case. He’s going into his third year under Giles and has the physical tools to be great, but it hasn’t fully clicked for him yet.

Are you trying to say you think our WR depth chart is wide open?

Idk if I can agree with that. I haven’t seen any WR recruits say on the record that’s the reason they committed to Texas.

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I don't know about wide open, but like Florida, we lost a California guy after like 2 months and we may or may not have an equal replacement for CJ.

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  On 7/15/2019 at 2:41 PM, Bevo said:

I don't know about wide open, but like Florida, we lost a California guy after like 2 months and we may or may not have an equal replacement for CJ. 

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At least lost ours because our coaches are hardasses, not because we forced him to room with Captain McRapey.

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Posted
  On 7/15/2019 at 2:23 PM, golfclap said:

Gainesville is Waco but in Florida. 

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Except in Gainesville, Chip and Jo would be cousins who hooked up in county jail. Jo was locked up for throwing alligator piss at her ex-boyfriend, who left her for his babysitter/girlfriend and Chip for screaming "Santa isn't real!" at kids during a Christmas festival.  Now they give advice on the best prison tats and wall art for your jail cell and have 3 kids and 5 pythons, all of whom play together unattended in their backyard. 

 

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Roach: Stampede [Defensive Targets]

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  On 7/15/2019 at 12:38 PM, Fud said:

He's looking up at Cook, Green, Kenyatta, Jamison, and Crawford on the depth chart, and could be a Boyce type who gets passed up by the class behind him. There's also a non-zero chance we land Ringo. While I'd like to have him, he's replaceable in this class. 

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Listing Ringo is just laughable. It’s non zero only because 0.0000001% is technically non zero. 

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  On 7/15/2019 at 2:58 PM, Newy25 said:

Listing Ringo is just laughable. It’s non zero only because 0.0000001% is technically non zero. 

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Thanks for explaining the meaning of non-zero. We all needed that. 

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  On 7/15/2019 at 2:55 PM, Dummy said:

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Secondary Linebacker Targets: There are really no prospects on the radar right now that could be credible backup options.

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This is just way too true. Scott plus a JUCO seems like our most likely outcome. Herman needs to do something about this. It's beyond clear Orlando cannot be left to recruit LB himself. This is 2 out of 3 years where he's pretty much shit the bed at the position. Not to mention, Orlando seems not only bad at recruiting his targets, but he also seems to struggle to identify who will work in his system.  He's been taking way too many guys that profile to Mac, or even profile for being too slow for Mac, like Adeoye and Juwan Mitchell. Orlando doesn't have a single realistic Rover target identified right now and he didn't take a Rover in 2018, either, and Rover may be the most important position in his defense after Nose Tackle. 

As for DB, both CB and S seem to be struggling just a bit. I think Naivar and Washington are both victims of their own success the past two years. It's not surprising that the depth chart may be pushing away a couple guys that we'd normally get, like Washington and Rogers. We'll be fine at those positions and I'd bet a dip this year leads to another ungodly DB haul in 2021. 

 

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  On 7/15/2019 at 3:15 PM, Fud said:

The IT guys seem to be hinting that Pouncey is the next guy up at corner 

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TFB has seemed more plugged in to Pouncey's recruitment than other sites.

It would be hard to be too upset with a CB class of Crawford and Pouncey, especially since it seems like Orlando will be pulling from the Safety pool to fill Nickel most years. 

Do you have any thoughts on Pouncey? 247 seems to be overrating him by having him at #86 in the country, but he definitely looks like a 4 star to me and a quality CB2 take. 

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  On 7/15/2019 at 3:19 PM, Burt Macklin said:

TFB has seemed more plugged in to Pouncey's recruitment than other sites.

It would be hard to be too upset with a CB class of Crawford and Pouncey, especially since it seems like Orlando will be pulling from the Safety pool to fill Nickel most years. 

Do you have any thoughts on Pouncey? 247 seems to be overrating him by having him at #86 in the country, but he definitely looks like a 4 star to me and a quality CB2 take.  

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Not yet. Probably about time to start looking into him. 

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  On 7/15/2019 at 3:08 PM, Burt Macklin said:

As for DB, both CB and S seem to be struggling just a bit. 

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It looks like Texas, as well as TCU, is willing to wait and see if there are some late-risers at the CB spot this year. It's simply not a particularly talented group - and very few of them match the physical criteria we've seen under this staff. (excluding Lorando Johnson for obvious reasons). Outside of Crawford and Kimber there isn't a guy that you look at in state right now that screams take. Hell, the fact that Texas is recruiting Rogers as hard as they have is an indictment of this class because he's a project. Baylor and Tech have already taken reaches at CB and it's July. TCU went OOS to secure a good scheme fit. I felt like Texas should've pulled the trigger on Kelvontay Dixon even when Ringo was a possibility but looking at it now - I'd really like to have him. 

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Posted
  On 7/15/2019 at 3:35 PM, golfclap said:

Kelvontay Dixon

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You seem to be in the know on dixon and all, or maybe I'm thinking of someone else, so questions in relation to Texas:

 

Are you the person I'm thinking of: ? (if Yes, continue on. If No, sorry, but continue on and humor me anyway)

 

Chances he'd flip: ?

 

Chances they'd even try to flip him: ?

 

 

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