Texas Recruiting Notes 2020

[Machinator 32,103]

Just now, Ricky's one-hitter said:

I though the composites were getting an update with the new espn rankings

247 is releasing their own update this week.

[Machinator 32,103]

Broughton also showed out well at camps (even if he was playing out of position), could be him.

[Elmer_Fudd 23,036]

247 dropped Chris Thompson to a 3*.

[Lonestar88 5,183]

ESPN still has Majors ranked really high, he probably stays a 4-star in the composite.

[texifornia 59,083]

1 minute ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

247 dropped Chris Thompson to a 3*.

Lolwut. Sometimes the obsession with a clean position fit is out of hand.

Edited July 23, 2019 by texifornia

[Lonestar88 5,183]

1 minute ago, Lonestar88 said:

ESPN still has Majors ranked really high, he probably stays a 4-star in the composite.

 

1 minute ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

247 dropped Chris Thompson to a 3*.

Well, the same would go for CTJ too. I think he's going to be really good if he plays here, but the rankers don't know what to do with a in-the-box safety in 2019. He'd a hybrid type here.

[Elmer_Fudd 23,036]

Some of the composite scores have changed.  Majors dropped to .9306, Card was above 97.

Omeire dropped about 300 points in his composite.

[Lonestar88 5,183]

2 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Lolwut. Sometimes the obsession with a clean position fit is out of hand.

So much of these rankings are about clean projections. If it were just about pure talent, JaQuinden Jackson was the best player in the state last year.

[Hiphopopotamos 21,192]

18 minutes ago, Bodacious Bevo said:

He's being penalized because he struggled big time at camps. Let's not try to rationalize it. A lot of guys play OT in HS and then rep at OG. 

3 stars feels appropriate for Majors. 

 

Didn't he rep at Center? 

[Goodman 3,283]

10 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

247 dropped Chris Thompson to a 3*.

lol, what a clown show. They have to keep our 11 rivals happy.

[victory88 5,784]

Yeah, Roach and EJ have both said time and time they JQJ would be their #1 player in the state if he was ranked as an athlete instead of QB.  

LoL at CT3 dropping to a 3 star.  I think he's a top 20 player in the state.  

Majors should be a 3 star.  He's a guy that is on the Dominic Espinosa, Elijah Rodriguez path.  He needs 3 years to get stronger and bigger before he can contribute or he will be pushed around like a rag doll.  You stash him away, let him get bigger, and then he can be a very solid contributor.  

Crawford is severely underrated.  I think he's a top 10 corner in the country.  

Collins at 280 with his size and his athleticism should be a top 50 player in the country.  There's a reason Bama wants him bad.

[victory88 5,784]

Yeah, Roach and EJ have both said time and time they JQJ would be their #1 player in the state if he was ranked as an athlete instead of QB.  

LoL at CT3 dropping to a 3 star.  I think he's a top 20 player in the state.  

Majors should be a 3 star.  He's a guy that is on the Dominic Espinosa, Elijah Rodriguez path.  He needs 3 years to get stronger and bigger before he can contribute or he will be pushed around like a rag doll.  You stash him away, let him get bigger, and then he can be a very solid contributor.  

Crawford is severely underrated.  I think he's a top 10 corner in the country.  

Collins at 280 with his size and his athleticism should be a top 50 player in the country.  There's a reason Bama wants him bad.

[Pato del Muerto 53,606]

Just now, Hiphopopotamos said:

 

Didn't he rep at Center? 

And he said he learned the footwork in 2 hours before, so it’s not exactly natural to him at that point. Plus 1v1 with no traffic to either side isn’t exactly normal for a center.

But, if he can’t yet play the position he’s being recruited to play, then by all means drop him. 

[Goodman 3,283]

6 minutes ago, Lonestar88 said:

So much of these rankings are about clean projections. If it were just about pure talent, JaQuinden Jackson was the best player in the state last year.

Don't underestimate what schools you are considering, who your trainer is and which shoe company AA game you plan to attend.

[Pato del Muerto 53,606]

2 minutes ago, Goodman said:

lol, what a clown show. They have to keep our 11 rivals happy.

Then he commits here, he gets bumped back up after a great season, and aggy howls at the moon about bias. 

[Machinator 32,103]

Majors' drop is probably deserved, but both he and Parr both improved as they spent more time at the camp and when they put some pads on.

[UncleBuck 6,455]

Sure this could apply to 2021 as well.

 

Can't wait for King to announce his commitment to Texas, then for Herman to quote-tweet it with "we never offered you but sure whatever"

Edited July 23, 2019 by UncleBuck

[Goodman 3,283]

2 minutes ago, victory88 said:

Yeah, Roach and EJ have both said time and time they JQJ would be their #1 player in the state if he was ranked as an athlete instead of QB.  

LoL at CT3 dropping to a 3 star.  I think he's a top 20 player in the state.  

Majors should be a 3 star.  He's a guy that is on the Dominic Espinosa, Elijah Rodriguez path.  He needs 3 years to get stronger and bigger before he can contribute or he will be pushed around like a rag doll.  You stash him away, let him get bigger, and then he can be a very solid contributor.  

Crawford is severely underrated.  I think he's a top 10 corner in the country.  

Collins at 280 with his size and his athleticism should be a top 50 player in the country.  There's a reason Bama wants him bad.

Espinosa should never be considered the type of player Rodriguez was for us last year, Espinosa never put together a season like Elijah just did. He and Ash somehow get too much praise by our fanbase for what they "could" have been without the injuries.

[NameNotFound 82]

2 minutes ago, Lonestar88 said:

So much of these rankings are about clean projections. If it were just about pure talent, JaQuinden Jackson was the best player in the state last year.

Indeed. Camps, 7on7, trainers, etc... It's not football. It's not even practice. It's barely exercise. These kids are getting bumps based on their exercise habits and the number of camps they go to and twitter mentions they get. 

[Machinator 32,103]

4 minutes ago, NameNotFound said:

Indeed. Camps, 7on7, trainers, etc... It's not football. It's not even practice. It's barely exercise. These kids are getting bumps based on their exercise habits and the number of camps they go to and twitter mentions they get. 

The camps matter most for getting your commits to recruit other players, not so much for teaching or evaluation. We got burned with the Rivals camp this year.

[Ricky's one-hitter 9,622]

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[texifornia 59,083]

Just now, Ricky's one-hitter said:

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Who could ever have seen that coming

[Elmer_Fudd 23,036]

Dixon all the way up to #37 on 247.

[Ricky's one-hitter 9,622]

Wilson down to 43 with a star loss. Majors reclassified as a center and no movement.

[texifornia 59,083]

Just now, Elmer_Fudd said:

Dixon all the way up to #37 on 247.

In the state not the country.

[Hiphopopotamos 21,192]

If the 247 page is correct - they dropped Majors 479 spots down to 717.

https://247sports.com/PlayerSport/Jake-Majors-at-Prosper-217118/RecruitRankHistory/?history=top247

[Ricky's one-hitter 9,622]

If the 247 page is correct - they dropped Majors 479 spots down to 717.
https://247sports.com/PlayerSport/Jake-Majors-at-Prosper-217118/RecruitRankHistory/?history=top247

Looks I’m catching these mid-move. That’s a massive adjustment

[NoName 17,196]

11 minutes ago, Goodman said:

Espinosa should never be considered the type of player Rodriguez was for us last year, Espinosa never put together a season like Elijah just did. He and Ash somehow get too much praise by our fanbase for what they "could" have been without the injuries.

Espinosa started all 13 games as a RS FR, all 13 games as a SO, all 13 games as a JR, started the first game of his senior year (broke his ankle and was out for the season) - started 40 games at Texas

in 14, his SR Year, he was on the watch list for the Rimington and Outland trophy and a pre season All Big 12 team member. 

Rodriguez only played 34 games (18 starts), didn't start any games as RS FR, started 3 games as a SO, missed his JR year and started 14 games as a SR between C and RG.

You seriously under rate Espinosa, a guy who started every game he played in after his RS year and started more games across 4 years than Rodriguez played total. 

[Ricky's one-hitter 9,622]

Thompson to 210, down 81 spots

[Machinator 32,103]

Just now, Ricky's one-hitter said:

Thompson to 210, down 81 spots

He's 701 on 247's own rankings.

[Hiphopopotamos 21,192]

1 minute ago, Machinator said:

He's 701 on 247's own rankings.

Something must be going on still - Omiere, CTJ, and Majors all got dropped into the 700's on 247 rankings.  I'm guessing the update isn't complete?

[elguapo 4,621]

5 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Dixon all the way up to #37 on 247.

Really annoyed about how we've handled this one, hope it's not too late with him.

[Bevo14 8,470]

Seems a little silly to me to make such strong kneejerk responses to offseason camps, but whateva

[elguapo 4,621]

Just now, Bevo14 said:

Seems a little silly to me to make such strong kneejerk responses to offseason camps, but whateva

Everything about recruiting is silly, just have to roll with it.

[Goodman 3,283]

4 minutes ago, NoName said:

Espinosa started all 13 games as a RS FR, all 13 games as a SO, all 13 games as a JR, started the first game of his senior year (broke his ankle and was out for the season) - started 40 games at Texas

in 14, his SR Year, he was on the watch list for the Rimington and Outland trophy and a pre season All Big 12 team member. 

Rodriguez only played 34 games (18 starts), didn't start any games as RS FR, started 3 games as a SO, missed his JR year and started 14 games as a SR between C and RG.

You seriously under rate Espinosa, a guy who started every game he played in after his RS year and started more games across 4 years than Rodriguez played total. 

Looks like we will agree to disagree. He did start a lot and his best season was not as good as Elijah's last season, Elijah played at a high level last year.

[NoName 17,196]

10 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

If the 247 page is correct - they dropped Majors 479 spots down to 717.

https://247sports.com/PlayerSport/Jake-Majors-at-Prosper-217118/RecruitRankHistory/?history=top247

that is a HUGE change

something still isn't quite right though. his 247 profile says he is the #695 overall player, #13 OC and #93 in the state (using 247 rankings) but the linked page above (rankings history) has him as the #717 overall player 

247 is insanely low on him if this is the case. his current composite ranking is #171 overall, and they have him as outside the top 700? that has to be the biggest difference i have ever seen for a player's composite vs singular ranking (excluding guys who are un ranked)

 

edit: sounds like they are still working on things

Edited July 23, 2019 by NoName

[Goodman 3,283]

2 minutes ago, Bevo14 said:

Seems a little silly to me to make such strong kneejerk responses to offseason camps, but whateva

Agreed but predictable by 995, they have to keep those subs going.

[NoName 17,196]

2 minutes ago, Goodman said:

Looks like we will agree to disagree. He did start a lot and his best season was not as good as Elijah's last season, Elijah played at a high level last year.

Deal! Not trying to shit on Elijah btw, he was excellent last year and really developed well at Texas over his time on campus!

Edited July 23, 2019 by NoName

[Machinator 32,103]

If 247 isn't borked and they're really trying to tell us that Chris Thompson Jr. is the 96th-best player in the state, I don't know what to say.

Edited July 23, 2019 by Machinator

[Goodman 3,283]

3 minutes ago, NoName said:

Deal! Not trying to shit on Elijah btw, he was excellent last year and really developed well at Texas over his time on campus!

NP. I've never been ok with starts being a measure for considering a guy to be good. We've had that happen too many times over the last decade. Vahe is the most recent example. Those years are hopefully over, we have a healthy program where guys who have been developing are ready to shine. Even if for one or two seasons. I want to see grown men who play at a high level and with the depth we are creating in the trenches, hopefully we've arrived to that point.

[Pato del Muerto 53,606]

7 minutes ago, Goodman said:

Agreed but predictable by 995, they have to keep those subs going.

If anything, they are confirming that their early rankings are complete fabrications that shouldn’t be paid any attention. 

[Dbeasy 15,613]

The OL class looks less sterling now. Weird.

[Machinator 32,103]

New Top247 rankings:

1. Bryan Bresee (Clemson commit)

3. DJ Uiagalelei (Clemson commit)

6. Justin Flowe

10. Bryce Young (USC commit)

11. Zach Evans

12. Demond Demas (A&M commit)

13. Drew Sanders (Bama commit)

15. Kelee Ringo

17. Sav'ell Smalls

19. Haynes King (A&M commit)

23. Bijan Robinson

27. Jaylon Jones (now listed at safety, A&M commit)

33. Clark Phillips III (Ohio State commit)

43. Tosh Baker (Notre Dame commit)

44. Kendall Milton

45. Jalin Conyers (OU commit)

47. Jaxon Smith-Njigba (Ohio State commit)

48. Garrett Hayes

50. Nate Anderson (OU commit)

51. Jase McClellan (OU commit)

53. Jaylen Garth (Texas commit)

54. Andrew Raym (OU commit)

57. Ja'Quinden Jackson (Texas commit)

61. Lathan Ransom (Ohio State commit)

70. Hudson Card (Texas commit)

79. Myles Slusher (Oregon commit)

80. Johnny Wilson

86. Len'Neth Whitehead

90. Ethan Pouncey

97. Devon Achane

99. RJ Mickens (Clemson commit)

106. Jalen Kimber (Georgia commit)

113. Ty'kieast Crawford (Arkansas commit)

120. Prince Dorbah (Texas commit)

123. Quentin Johnston

131. Mookie Cooper (Ohio State commit)

135. Alfred Collins

136. Xavion Alford

144. Seth McGowan (OU commit)

146. Jahari Rogers (Florida commit)

149. Jerrin Thompson

151. Muhsin Muhammad III (A&M commit)

153. Fadill Diggs (A&M commit)

157. Vernon Broughton (Texas commit)

166. Kitan Crawford (Texas commit)

172. Malik Hornsby

176. Kevontre Bradford

180. Princely Umanmielen

186. Josh White (LSU commit)

193. Alec Bryant (LSU commit)

204. Logan Parr (Texas commit)

211. Chris Morris

215. Ja'Lynn Polk (Texas Tech commit)

220. Ryan Watts (OU commit)

223. LV Bunkley-Shelton

228. Chad Lindberg

231. Javian Hester

241. Jason Harris

245. Kelvontay Dixon (Arkansas commit)

 

[texifornia 59,083]

4 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

The OL class looks less sterling now. Weird.

I think we're all more than fine with Garth and Parr. Going after Majors instead of Anderson, Baker or Hayes was a bit puzzling from the jump, but if we finish out with Lindberg or Karic it's a class we can all be super happy with heading into 2021.

Edited July 23, 2019 by texifornia

[Machinator 32,103]

 

[Goodman 3,283]

1 minute ago, Machinator said:

 

Meh, 995 tell me he is only worth 3⭐. 

Great take, Hook'em!

[Hiphopopotamos 21,192]

1 minute ago, Machinator said:

 

NFL combine ready.

[Machinator 32,103]

Majors is the type of player that late-era Mack and Charlie would have ruined with their poor roster management and shoddy development. If Jake gets 1-2 years to redshirt and add strength, he'll be a good interior lineman.

[Hank_Hill 20,111]

20 minutes ago, Machinator said:

If 247 isn't borked and they're really trying to tell us that Chris Thompson Jr. is the 96th-best player in the state, I don't know what to say.

Yea that can't be right

[Ricky's one-hitter 9,622]

Yea that can't be right

Looks like he’s a 3*, 96th in Texas and 701 nationally. Composite 4, 210 nationally