Texas Recruiting Notes 2020

[Bruh Man 3,160]

4 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Yeah it sucks. Firing the DC/LB coach was obviously a necessary evil, but Orlando didn't even seem to be that likely to land a guy like Burns or Whitehead.

Hopefully we can pull an under-the-rader dude (sigh) and pull a Juwan Mitchell out of our hat (not that he's a world-beater).

That linebacker room is already so talent deficient. To follow it up with no linebackers in this class shows how clueless this staff is. And you're right, we were already headed this route before we fired Orlando. 

[Ricky's one-hitter 9,622]

7 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Do you have to be a miserable, whiny bitch even on Signing Day?

Hill Country Fare Satya

[Funk Doctor Spock 13,289]

I'm only 75% happy with our class signing only 3/4 of the dudes I really wanted in Bijan, JQJ, and Broughton.

[texifornia 59,023]

5 minutes ago, Bruh Man said:

That linebacker room is already so talent deficient. To follow it up with no linebackers in this class shows how clueless this staff is. And you're right, we were already headed this route before we fired Orlando. 

Well they fired the side of the staff largely responsible for that problem, so you can ratchet your sadness down a couple notches.

[Getafix 29,459]

Ja'Quinden Jackson evidently has a torn ACL - (coach) Samples announced.  Reported on LHN. Drat.

Speedy recovery, JJ.

[GRHorn 105]

3 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Well they fired the side of the staff largely responsible for that problem, so you can ratchet your sadness down a couple notches.

You’re not the boss of him

[Neonmoon 38,130]

3 minutes ago, Getafix said:

Ja'Quinden Jackson evidently has a torn ACL - (coach) Samples announced.  Reported on LHN. Drat.

Speedy recovery, JJ.

That's actually good news considering the clip of the injury

[JBJ 3,828]

Here's my thoughts on the home stretch, in order of importance:

3-5 DE (x2): Princely Umanmielen, Alfred Collins, or replacement.  Signing 2 is better than 1.

ILB (x2): Who knows?

WR3: Kelvontay Dixon

CB2: This is a want more than a need.  There's a few names.  It takes pressure off 2021 to get another one now.  In the era of 6 DBs being more common than 4 DBs, taking 4 every year is starting to become normal.

Edited December 18, 2019 by JBJ

[NoName 17,163]

19 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Do you have to be a miserable, whiny bitch even on Signing Day?

hey, everyone knows he is only a miserable, whiny bitch on days that end in Y.

[RGBIII 23,020]

15 minutes ago, Bruh Man said:

That linebacker room is already so talent deficient. To follow it up with no linebackers in this class shows how clueless this staff is. And you're right, we were already headed this route before we fired Orlando. 

Even if Ash is a well below average recruiter he will still be better than Orlando who was an absolute zero

[Burt Macklin 19,230]

18 minutes ago, Bruh Man said:

That linebacker room is already so talent deficient. To follow it up with no linebackers in this class shows how clueless this staff is. And you're right, we were already headed this route before we fired Orlando. 

I’m gonna take this post as a yes. 

Also, when did the NCAA abolish NSD2? I must’ve missed that. 

Edited December 18, 2019 by Burt Macklin

[Pato del Muerto 53,548]

I’d hope that since ash won’t be doing bowl prep things, he’ll evaluate the roster and be able to make some things happen via juco, transfer, and feb signing day. Hope we hear about linebackers getting looks and/or offers soon. 

[JBJ 3,828]

1 minute ago, RGBIII said:

Even if Ash is a well below average recruiter he will still be better than Orlando who was an absolute zero

This has been said before, but we signed 3 LBs both classes and landed 2 of the Top 3 in the state both times.  LB is thin because shark is the only upperclassmen on the roster (mostly due to not signing a LB in 2017).

[Ricky's one-hitter 9,622]

6 minutes ago, JBJ said:

ILB (x2): Who knows?

I saw they're working on an underrecruited RB for this, don't remember the name.

Also, and I recognize Ian Boyd thinks himself into a black hole sometimes, he makes the case for Ash to spin down BJ Foster 

Spoiler

BJ Foster at middle linebacker, Overshown at boundary safety
The middle linebacker in the Under gets put into space a ton at the college level and ruthlessly attacked with run/pass conflicts. Ideally you help him out at times with techniques like the 4i or a heavy 5-technique strongside end that plays the B-gap rather than setting the edge. At any rate, you want at least one of your ILBs to be capable of keeping up with a good flex TE or slot receiver underneath in coverage, playing sideline to sideline, and fitting inside runs from the hash mark. That's often the middle linebacker that has to do that in this scheme, so that's where you want your converted safety.

Why Foster rather than Overshown? For one, Foster has shown a lot more willingness to play in this sort of role than Overshown, for another he's actually probably better at it. Foster's specialty is generating insane explosiveness and power over a short area, Overshown's specialty is covering a ton of ground quickly and arriving with pop.

Foster can handle playing up in the box both in terms of dealing with the conflicts in space and also in blowing up blockers and generating the necessary power within a few steps. Overshown is exactly the kind of guy you want lining up back at safety like Chancellor or Edmunds only to appear in position to make plays like a linebacker unexpectedly and after the snap.

 

[Burt Macklin 19,230]

3 minutes ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:

I saw they're working on an underrecruited RB for this, don't remember the name.

Also, and I recognize Ian Boyd thinks himself into a black hole sometimes, he makes the case for Ash to spin down BJ Foster 

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BJ Foster at middle linebacker, Overshown at boundary safety
The middle linebacker in the Under gets put into space a ton at the college level and ruthlessly attacked with run/pass conflicts. Ideally you help him out at times with techniques like the 4i or a heavy 5-technique strongside end that plays the B-gap rather than setting the edge. At any rate, you want at least one of your ILBs to be capable of keeping up with a good flex TE or slot receiver underneath in coverage, playing sideline to sideline, and fitting inside runs from the hash mark. That's often the middle linebacker that has to do that in this scheme, so that's where you want your converted safety.

Why Foster rather than Overshown? For one, Foster has shown a lot more willingness to play in this sort of role than Overshown, for another he's actually probably better at it. Foster's specialty is generating insane explosiveness and power over a short area, Overshown's specialty is covering a ton of ground quickly and arriving with pop.

Foster can handle playing up in the box both in terms of dealing with the conflicts in space and also in blowing up blockers and generating the necessary power within a few steps. Overshown is exactly the kind of guy you want lining up back at safety like Chancellor or Edmunds only to appear in position to make plays like a linebacker unexpectedly and after the snap.

 

I definitely think at least one of Foster or Overshown should spin down to LB this year, but that doesn’t have much impact on 2020. We took 0 in 2017, we took one in 2018 that is kind of a dud, and took 3 in 2019 with one already medically retired and the other two being relative unknowns at this point, plus added Mitchell. I’d say we need one HS, one JUCO, plus I’d like to see us work Hullaby at LB first. 

[JBJ 3,828]

Yeah.  I saw that blurb.  It actually makes a bit of sense because what I've seen from Ash is that one of his ILBs will act as a Rover on either edge while one guards the inside gaps (sort of what Boyd is getting at I suppose).

My choice would be Ossai for that role, and Foster for Bandit.  But that also depends on what looks Ash wants. 

Foster's not as compelling a Leo in a 4-down Flex or 4-down Under.  But Foster at Bandit makes easy transitions to Dime-looks work.

[ChickenSandwich 9,961]

9 minutes ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:

I saw they're working on an underrecruited RB for this, don't remember the name.

Also, and I recognize Ian Boyd thinks himself into a black hole sometimes, he makes the case for Ash to spin down BJ Foster 

  Hide contents

BJ Foster at middle linebacker, Overshown at boundary safety
The middle linebacker in the Under gets put into space a ton at the college level and ruthlessly attacked with run/pass conflicts. Ideally you help him out at times with techniques like the 4i or a heavy 5-technique strongside end that plays the B-gap rather than setting the edge. At any rate, you want at least one of your ILBs to be capable of keeping up with a good flex TE or slot receiver underneath in coverage, playing sideline to sideline, and fitting inside runs from the hash mark. That's often the middle linebacker that has to do that in this scheme, so that's where you want your converted safety.

Why Foster rather than Overshown? For one, Foster has shown a lot more willingness to play in this sort of role than Overshown, for another he's actually probably better at it. Foster's specialty is generating insane explosiveness and power over a short area, Overshown's specialty is covering a ton of ground quickly and arriving with pop.

Foster can handle playing up in the box both in terms of dealing with the conflicts in space and also in blowing up blockers and generating the necessary power within a few steps. Overshown is exactly the kind of guy you want lining up back at safety like Chancellor or Edmunds only to appear in position to make plays like a linebacker unexpectedly and after the snap.

 

He would be permanently injured in this role. Unless he gains 20 pounds

[Ricky's one-hitter 9,622]

1 minute ago, JBJ said:

My choice would be Ossai for that role

If I see Ossai in coverage more than 10% of game snaps, I will burn Ash's house to the ground

[JBJ 3,828]

Just now, Ricky's one-hitter said:

If I see Ossai in coverage more than 10% of game snaps, I will burn Ash's house to the ground

Rover would be less in coverage than Bandit.

Ideally, you'd swap them on calls, but that's a non-starter in the HUNH era.

[Viper 12,221]

3 minutes ago, JBJ said:

Yeah.  I saw that blurb.  It actually makes a bit of sense because what I've seen from Ash is that one of his ILBs will act as a Rover on either edge while one guards the inside gaps (sort of what Boyd is getting at I suppose).

My choice would be Ossai for that role, and Foster for Bandit.  But that also depends on what looks Ash wants. 

Foster's not as compelling a Leo in a 4-down Flex or 4-down Under.  But Foster at Bandit makes easy transitions to Dime-looks work.

[Chuckie Finster 23,092]

eyes emoji?

[Ricky's one-hitter 9,622]

2 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

He would be permanently injured in this role. Unless he gains 20 pounds

The comp is Darron Lee who played in college around 220. Not sure where BJ is, but if he's around 210, that should be an easy add

[Fud 9,724]

2 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

eyes emoji?

Middle finger joke, imo 

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13,435]

3 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

eyes emoji?

Referring to Herman flipping the birds.

[Bodacious Bevo 3,691]

8 minutes ago, JBJ said:

Yeah.  I saw that blurb.  It actually makes a bit of sense because what I've seen from Ash is that one of his ILBs will act as a Rover on either edge while one guards the inside gaps (sort of what Boyd is getting at I suppose).

My choice would be Ossai for that role, and Foster for Bandit.  But that also depends on what looks Ash wants. 

Foster's not as compelling a Leo in a 4-down Flex or 4-down Under.  But Foster at Bandit makes easy transitions to Dime-looks work.

Give me Ossai at WDE if he can handle another 10-20 pounds. Juwan would probably be good at that role though. 

[Bruh Man 3,160]

20 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Geez give it a rest with the spin. The University of "Texas is back" shouldn't be relying on NSD2 leftovers to get their first linebacker when the LB room is already thin! I question whether some of you really want to build a championship team that competes w/ Clemson, LSU, Bama, OU if you think this is acceptable. Then again a lot of you were content with Orlando coaching out the season when I said cut bait more than a month ago.

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13,435]

Just now, Bodacious Bevo said:

Juwan would probably be good at that role though. 

Is he going to be allowed to punch his way up the middle?

[THEHORN5561 2,583]

 

[closetojumping 65,467]

3 minutes ago, Bruh Man said:

Geez give it a rest with the spin. The University of "Texas is back" shouldn't be relying on NSD2 leftovers to get their first linebacker when the LB room is already thin! I question whether some of you really want to build a championship team that competes w/ Clemson, LSU, Bama, OU if you think this is acceptable. Then again a lot of you were content with Orlando coaching out the season when I said cut bait more than a month ago.

The ol'Baghdad Burt, if you will. Awesome.

[texifornia 59,023]

4 minutes ago, Bruh Man said:

Geez give it a rest with the spin. The University of "Texas is back" shouldn't be relying on NSD2 leftovers to get their first linebacker when the LB room is already thin! I question whether some of you really want to build a championship team that competes w/ Clemson, LSU, Bama, OU if you think this is acceptable. Then again a lot of you were content with Orlando coaching out the season when I said cut bait more than a month ago.

Where did he say that this was a good thing? There were two solid LB classes (RIP DGF), then obviously this tire fire, in large part caused by a part of the staff that has since paid for their crimes against recruiting and football.

Edited December 18, 2019 by texifornia

[Ricky Butler 2,809]

4 minutes ago, Bruh Man said:

Geez give it a rest with the spin. The University of "Texas is back" shouldn't be relying on NSD2 leftovers to get their first linebacker when the LB room is already thin! I question whether some of you really want to build a championship team that competes w/ Clemson, LSU, Bama, OU if you think this is acceptable. Then again a lot of you were content with Orlando coaching out the season when I said cut bait more than a month ago.

But the videos look cool now. 

[Burt Macklin 19,230]

11 minutes ago, JBJ said:

Yeah.  I saw that blurb.  It actually makes a bit of sense because what I've seen from Ash is that one of his ILBs will act as a Rover on either edge while one guards the inside gaps (sort of what Boyd is getting at I suppose).

My choice would be Ossai for that role, and Foster for Bandit.  But that also depends on what looks Ash wants. 

Foster's not as compelling a Leo in a 4-down Flex or 4-down Under.  But Foster at Bandit makes easy transitions to Dime-looks work.

You can’t be serious. You want Ossai as an off ball LB in a 4 man front scheme? C’mon man. He wasn’t good in that role this year. Just less worse than a lot of our other LBs.

9 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

He would be permanently injured in this role. Unless he gains 20 pounds

he’s already bigger than both of TCU’s starting LBs in their 4-2-5 scheme. He’s plenty big enough to play that role, especially when you have guys like Coburn, Ojomo, and Sweat to keep him clean.

[MoJames 8,258]

Top ILB (3 stars) from Texas that per 247 haven't signed a LOI outside of the White kid.

https://247sports.com/Player/Brennon-Scott-46042133

https://247sports.com/Player/Matthew-Roberts-46055353

https://247sports.com/Player/Ty-Williams-46096536

https://247sports.com/Player/Ethan-Barr-46049381

[Viper 12,221]

7 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

You can’t be serious. You want Ossai as an off ball LB in a 4 man front scheme? C’mon man. He wasn’t good in that role this year. Just less worse than a lot of our other LBs.

he’s already bigger than both of TCU’s starting LBs in their 4-2-5 scheme. He’s plenty big enough to play that role, especially when you have guys like Coburn, Ojomo, and Sweat to keep him clean.

Assuming Ash will teach him how to tackle.

Edited December 18, 2019 by Viper

[Burt Macklin 19,230]

6 minutes ago, Bruh Man said:

Geez give it a rest with the spin. The University of "Texas is back" shouldn't be relying on NSD2 leftovers to get their first linebacker when the LB room is already thin! I question whether some of you really want to build a championship team that competes w/ Clemson, LSU, Bama, OU if you think this is acceptable. Then again a lot of you were content with Orlando coaching out the season when I said cut bait more than a month ago.

What spin? I’ve already said LB is a huge need and this class isn’t what we wanted it to be. There’s a huge difference between saying Texas is back with this class (something no one but you has said btw) and being a miserable, whiny little bitch about a long-known issue on the day where amazing players like Bijan, JQJ, and Vernon Broughton are signing up to play for our program. 

[texifornia 59,023]

1 minute ago, MoJames said:

Top ILB (3 stars) from Texas that per 247 haven't signed a LOI outside of the White kid.

https://247sports.com/Player/Brennon-Scott-46042133

https://247sports.com/Player/Matthew-Roberts-46055353

https://247sports.com/Player/Ty-Williams-46096536

https://247sports.com/Player/Ethan-Barr-46049381

Coming all the way back around to Brennon Scott after all this time would be pretty funny.

[Ricky's one-hitter 9,622]

2 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Coming all the way back around to Brennon Scott after all this time would be pretty funny.

Brennon Scott is not a Big12 linebacker. He would make a killing in the B10

[Burt Macklin 19,230]

2 minutes ago, Viper said:

Assuming Ash will teach him out to tackle.

Obviously. If Ash can’t teach our guys how to tackle better, then none of this matters because we’ll be on our 3rd defensive scheme in 3 years by 2021. 

[Sock Monkey 747]

1 hour ago, Bruh Man said:

Getting no linebackers is another pathetic L for this staff. 

Hullaby and Dorbah. 

[Viper 12,221]

2 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Obviously. If Ash can’t teach our guys how to tackle better, then none of this matters because we’ll be on our 3rd defensive scheme in 3 years by 2021. 

maybe muschamp will be available by then

[Ricky's one-hitter 9,622]

2 minutes ago, Sock Monkey said:

Hullaby and Dorbah. 

Maybe Hullaby, but Dorbah will not play MLB

[TexasIsBetter 275]

26 minutes ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:

If I see Ossai in coverage more than 10% of game snaps, I will burn Ash's house to the ground

To....Ash-es....perhaps?

[KYHorn 17,617]

9 minutes ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:

Maybe Hullaby, but Dorbah will not play MLB

Bad hand-eye coordination? 

[Skipper 6,412]

17 minutes ago, Viper said:

maybe muschamp will be available by then

I certainly don't follow them closely but was a little surprised he survived this year.

[MoJames 8,258]

Went through the Transfer Portal sorted by ILB and there is one Texas kid.

https://247sports.com/Player/Blake-Barron-46038516/

By OLB

https://247sports.com/Player/Jacoby-Simpson-77863/

 

Not overtly promising but I have no clue.

[texifornia 59,023]

Uh if anyone is tweeting at Bijan, maybe fucking don't 

 

[Bruh Man 3,160]

26 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

What spin? I’ve already said LB is a huge need and this class isn’t what we wanted it to be. There’s a huge difference between saying Texas is back with this class (something no one but you has said btw) and being a miserable, whiny little bitch about a long-known issue on the day where amazing players like Bijan, JQJ, and Vernon Broughton are signing up to play for our program. 

Dude, you are the one being a whiny little bitch. I made one singular post about the linebacker situation and you started bleeding all over the place. Fuck off.

[saul silver 25]

3 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Uh if anyone is tweeting at Bijan, maybe fucking don't 

 

Bijan doesn't use twitter so jokes on them

[Skipper 6,412]

5 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Uh if anyone is tweeting at Bijan, maybe fucking don't 

 

I mean that's pretty good advice for any recruit ever.

[Funk Doctor Spock 13,289]

I don’t think Bijan has a Twitter