Woodworking, DIY, and home repair thread

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2644]

1 hour ago, UT_OB1 said:

Wow. Lots of work there. Finished up?  Just saw you asked what part we were at. We have a place on Grover that we stay at some when not AirBnB’d. We stayed there thanksgiving through first week of January because we figured this was the last time we’d have a chance to do that with the kids stopping home school. 

the structure is mostly finished. going to start plumbing tomorrow and electrical this weekend. 

 

i’ll post some pics this weekend. very pleased with the work so far. i’m amazed by the condition of all the wood. was really worried that we were going to open up a huge termite nest lol. 

[UT_OB1 2203]

On 3/17/2022 at 6:05 PM, UT_OB1 said:

Several threads this might have been better for but I’ll try here first. 
 

I have a low income triplex I’m rehabbing with cinder block exterior walls. I’m going to frame the inside and put drywall up. I want to keep moisture from getting in and rotting the framing or ruining the drywall. Options to do that seem to be:

- exterior paint made to block water penetration (needs to be painted anyway, so this is happening)

- 6 mil poly on interior wall before framing

- painting interior with similar paint as exterior before drywall 

- just using the insulation board that has the foil vapor barrier on one side

Seems every asshole in the internet has an opinion on this, and surly has a lot of assholes, so I figured I’d ask. 

@Steel Shank or @ROFL BOX  or any of the others here that might know what they are taking about:

any thoughts?

[Steel Shank 9417]

5 minutes ago, UT_OB1 said:

@Steel Shank or @ROFL BOX  or any of the others here that might know what they are taking about:

any thoughts?

On this matter, I'm simply an asshole with no opinion. Now on laying pipe, on the other hand....

[UT_OB1 2203]

55 minutes ago, Steel Shank said:

On this matter, I'm simply an asshole with no opinion. Now on laying pipe, on the other hand....

Well it had to do with (stopping) penetration, so I thought you might have some relatable knowledge 

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2644]

found some old bones while digging new piers. 

bonus pictures of the old rotten beam being replaced (the old package unit AC against it was leaking, causing excess moisture). 

We replaced the beam and added new cement piers.  this was all a circa 1920s addition that we are building half of our new addition on top of  

 

 

Edited March 29, 2022 by ONE YARD

[UT_OB1 2203]

Is that scaffolding?  Haven’t seen that setup before if so. It would be mildly terrifying being the person cutting that beam out. 

[CoTex 1160]

What are you going to do with the bones?

[blacklab 11888]

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2644]

2 hours ago, UT_OB1 said:

Is that scaffolding?  Haven’t seen that setup before if so. It would be mildly terrifying being the person cutting that beam out. 

it sorta is? i’m not sure of the exact term. they only go up there to put the external stuff up, which is light weight.   the beam being replaced was under the first level.  so it was ground level. they added jacks and a temporary pier/beam setup before removing the rotten wood 

47 minutes ago, CoTex said:

What are you going to do with the bones?

i just put them aside for now. i sent a picture to my archeologist brother who’s says they are probably from a pig or cow.  

 

that said Durst lived 2 blocks down the street. lol.

 

more pics from these last few weeks. space between first and second floor we opened up. hoped to find treasure, but instead found some old abandoned (unused) wiring and what looks to be an old gas line (house had gas lighting back in the day - also no longer used)

adding a new roofline above the future nursery / kids bedroom.   these are from a few weeks roof is 100% up now 

Edited March 30, 2022 by ONE YARD

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2644]

tongue and groove Ipe arrived for the porch. 🤤🤤🤤

[fattyflattie 4637]

Jesus. I can feel the pain of your wallet from here. Love it though, great house. 

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2644]

rear addition (new master bathroom) siding now up. we reused the original cypress where was possible and new cedar where needed.  we also reused all the original windows   

the front addition (nursery) is next. 

 

should be finished with rough end plumbing and electrical monday.   

 

cool fact. the masonry structure we are partially building on top of is the old icehouse (eventually going to be a walk in wine “box”). 

Edited April 2, 2022 by ONE YARD

[utee94 15752]

I love Ipe.  Over the years my dad and I had replaced the decking of our 4x8 trailer with marine grade plywood on several occasions.  Finally I said eff it and used Ipe planks.  20+ years of sitting outside uncovered, and zero degradation to the wood other than the color fading. Magical stuff and it's beautiful too.

 

 

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2644]

hopefully i’m not annoying y’all, but here is an update.  

 

front bedroom/nursery finally getting siding.  new master bathroom is finally fully plumbed.  

 

testing out the new color. looks good imo 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

On 4/6/2022 at 11:51 AM, utee94 said:

I love Ipe.  Over the years my dad and I had replaced the decking of our 4x8 trailer with marine grade plywood on several occasions.  Finally I said eff it and used Ipe planks.  20+ years of sitting outside uncovered, and zero degradation to the wood other than the color fading. Magical stuff and it's beautiful too.

 

 

And in CA. it's a fire rated material (allegedly) as it will only smolder and char, very tough to burn it.  Marine grade plywood really only performs in the vertical I believe.  Nice fucking trailer....

Edited April 8, 2022 by Onboard 2.0

[UT_OB1 2203]

@ONE YARD not bothering me. I enjoy seeing real world rehab.  Better than the hgtv rehabs by far. 

[gsoda3 3238]

Loving the updates, thanks for sharing the experience.

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2644]

minor update.  been waiting on inspector, so kind of in holding pattern.   insulated plex piping, built the small porch off nursery, and added more siding.  starting to see the finish line, which is great since my wife’s due date is less than a month away. 

 

hope this little epi experiment works out.  if it does i plan on replacing other two porch decking in the next few years  

 

*posted from texas city discount tire.   wife had flat driving on 146 this morning.  ugh. 

Edited April 12, 2022 by ONE YARD

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2644]

drywall is up!  feeling the finish line!  

 

 

[Gil Bang 25905]

Plex piping?  Is that a thing, or did you mean to type "Pex". 

[deadshank 24651]

On 4/12/2022 at 9:23 AM, ONE YARD said:

minor update.  been waiting on inspector, so kind of in holding pattern.   insulated plex piping, built the small porch off nursery, and added more siding.  starting to see the finish line, which is great since my wife’s due date is less than a month away. 

 

hope this little epi experiment works out.  if it does i plan on replacing other two porch decking in the next few years  

 

*posted from texas city discount tire.   wife had flat driving on 146 this morning.  ugh. 

No flashing kick out.  Cardinal sin.  Call back your installer. 

[deadshank 24651]

Although this diagram is for comp shingles, you will get the idea.  Metal needs to be semi-precious variety: copper, lead coated copper, 316 stainless or aluminum. 

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2644]

1 hour ago, deadshank said:

Although this diagram is for comp shingles, you will get the idea.  Metal needs to be semi-precious variety: copper, lead coated copper, 316 stainless or aluminum. 

thanks. i’ll bring it up, would you want it there even if it’s a covered porch?  it should not be seeing any direct rainfall (other than wind driven).  the roof above will have a foot or so overhang plus 6” gutter. 

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2644]

17 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

Plex piping?  Is that a thing, or did you mean to type "Pex". 

sorry pex. i’m new to this. lol 

[deadshank 24651]

18 minutes ago, ONE YARD said:

thanks. i’ll bring it up, would you want it there even if it’s a covered porch?  it should not be seeing any direct rainfall (other than wind driven).  the roof above will have a foot or so overhang plus 6” gutter. 

Absolutely.  Anywhere on the structure where that construction condition exists, be it roof or balcony, and a flashing detail ends at siding.  Kick outs are a must.  
 

Needs to be a monolithic and soldered detail.   
 

Ask @Onboard 2.0   He’s pre-med. 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

40 minutes ago, deadshank said:

Absolutely.  Anywhere on the structure where that construction condition exists, be it roof or balcony, and a flashing detail ends at siding.  Kick outs are a must.  
 

Needs to be a monolithic and soldered detail.   
 

Ask @Onboard 2.0   He’s pre-med. 

I switched to womens studies. I finally figured out I don’t know shit about ‘em.

 

[Antidean 200]

Needed a table for our foyer. 

Built this from soft maple.

 

[deadshank 24651]

20 hours ago, ONE YARD said:

thanks. i’ll bring it up, would you want it there even if it’s a covered porch?  it should not be seeing any direct rainfall (other than wind driven).  the roof above will have a foot or so overhang plus 6” gutter. 

I mentioned semi-precious metals because of the salt air environment on the island.  Aluminum was on the list; however you won’t be able to solder aluminum.   Galvanized, bonderized (paint grip) or any pre-finished metal with G90 galvanized as it’s base material is a no go.  It will all rust in short order. 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

33 minutes ago, deadshank said:

I mentioned semi-precious metals because of the salt air environment on the island.  Aluminum was on the list; however you won’t be able to solder aluminum.   Galvanized, bonderized (paint grip) or any pre-finished metal with G90 galvanized as it’s base material is a no go.  It will all rust in short order. 

Yep no aluminum you need copper and not the thin gauge  shit.

[Armybrat 40763]

Nsiap...

 

[Lhorn 4904]

Very cool. Looked very tedious to build. 

[Incredulity 11568]

On 4/23/2022 at 9:46 AM, Armybrat said:

Nsiap...

 

[utee94 15752]

It's very cool to look at, but if I had that kind of time, I'd probably spend it actually building or rebuilding a working engine.

[Judge Roybeanbag 11811]

12 minutes ago, utee94 said:

It's very cool to look at, but if I had that kind of time, I'd probably spend it actually building or rebuilding a working engine.

It's a pretty labor intensive way of starting a fire.

[kmac30 416]

I have 4x4 posts on my patio that I need to wrap and make roughly 8x8. Any thoughts on the wood I should use? They will be painted and exposed to direct weather on at least 1 side.

Looking to control costs, but it’s a main feature of my house so if I have to make amends I can.

[Shoxthemonkey 1976]

2 hours ago, kmac30 said:

I have 4x4 posts on my patio that I need to wrap and make roughly 8x8. Any thoughts on the wood I should use? They will be painted and exposed to direct weather on at least 1 side.

Looking to control costs, but it’s a main feature of my house so if I have to make amends I can.

I saw an episode of This Old House where they did that using solid white PVC. I don't have a clue how it compares price-wise.

[Shoxthemonkey 1976]

Something like this.

https://www.hbgcolumns.com/categories/columns/pvc-column-wraps/permawrap

[Spaulding Smails 1551]

PVC is a great choice.  Also consider Windsor One.  We've used it for fascia and soffits, and it's a really nice product.

https://windsorone.com/

[kmac30 416]

Do y’all have experience with PVC? I have none. Is it similar to working with wood?

[Shoxthemonkey 1976]

I use PVC a lot but not for carpentry. We build equipment to fill lead acid batteries from PVC. It saws and drills easily and there are several solvent type glues that make good bonds and joints. The guys from TOH claimed it was easy to use. I am not expert.

[utee94 15752]

1 hour ago, kmac30 said:

Do y’all have experience with PVC? I have none. Is it similar to working with wood?

 

1 hour ago, Shoxthemonkey said:

I use PVC a lot but not for carpentry. We build equipment to fill lead acid batteries from PVC. It saws and drills easily and there are several solvent type glues that make good bonds and joints. The guys from TOH claimed it was easy to use. I am not expert.

Yup, same experience.  Saws and drills easily.  In carpentry applications I'd say it probably feathers out or tears out a little more than wood, so make sure your blades are clean and sharp.  I think it's an excellent choice for this type of project, it'll last longer with less maintenance than pretty much any wood product you could use.

I'll add that for outdoor projects when I do want to use wood, then ipe is an awesome choice.  It's just about indestructible.  But it's so dense that it's much tougher to cut and drill.

Edited November 1, 2022 by utee94

[Okie State 3789]

Thought this thread would appreciate my Facebook marketplace find today. Need to find the drinking alone in your garage thread because that's what I'm going to be doing while I organize all my tools.

[deadshank 24651]

22 minutes ago, Okie State said:

Thought this thread would appreciate my Facebook marketplace find today. Need to find the drinking alone in your garage thread because that's what I'm going to be doing while I organize all my tools.

You finally showed us your tool box. 

[Lhorn 4904]

Nice!  Snap on fans boys would be all over that. Can I ask what something like that goes for?  

[Okie State 3789]

You finally showed us your tool box. 

Figured it was time.

Nice!  Snap on fans boys would be all over that. Can I ask what something like that goes for?  

This one was $200 and is in amazingly good shape for being 53 years old. Even has the key and the tools to remove the drawers. I did some Googling and it looks like they went from anywhere between $500-$750 new in 1970 and that this was a pretty good price.

[RMac5 1550]

Or 10 monthly payments of $50-$75.

[uoftorange 1386]

It's been a long while since I posted in this thread.  Hell it might have been on the Shag even.  

Our master closet was just a basic builder one.  Decent size, but just shelves and bars.  Nothing special.  

The lady that owned the house before us had it stuff to the gills and had put thumb tacks, nails and screws all over the place, but we didn't have time to fix that on move in.  So over Christmas break I went at it.  Had to build and paint around stuff being in there, so did one side then the other so our clothes weren't out for too long.

This is a panoramic of the nightmare fuel it was before we moved in.  Shit EVERYWHERE

But you can see that there are two sides with an island in the middle.  

This is the basic it was

and the center section after I gutted it.  It was just a bar on each side for the middle with a shelf up top


And now the after:  This is my side.  Just added a shelf up top on the middle island, a shelf on the back top and then an extra bar up top on the right for clothes

The Ikea shelving and drawer unit I put in on move in is working fine for now, but will one day be replaced like the other side  I've also finished the braces and painted them up top but don't have a newer pic with that

 

But my wife's side got a much bigger overhaul.

Added in drawers, shelves and shoe rack to that pic above where it showed the before



Then added a shelf along the top for more storage

And in the previous island she got shelves up top and 12 adjustable shoe racks that are tilted to see better.  Also face framed the end to look nicer and go with the rest of the closet

 

[deadshank 24651]

2 hours ago, uoftorange said:

It's been a long while since I posted in this thread.  Hell it might have been on the Shag even.  

Our master closet was just a basic builder one.  Decent size, but just shelves and bars.  Nothing special.  

The lady that owned the house before us had it stuff to the gills and had put thumb tacks, nails and screws all over the place, but we didn't have time to fix that on move in.  So over Christmas break I went at it.  Had to build and paint around stuff being in there, so did one side then the other so our clothes weren't out for too long.

This is a panoramic of the nightmare fuel it was before we moved in.  Shit EVERYWHERE

But you can see that there are two sides with an island in the middle.  

This is the basic it was

and the center section after I gutted it.  It was just a bar on each side for the middle with a shelf up top


And now the after:  This is my side.  Just added a shelf up top on the middle island, a shelf on the back top and then an extra bar up top on the right for clothes

The Ikea shelving and drawer unit I put in on move in is working fine for now, but will one day be replaced like the other side  I've also finished the braces and painted them up top but don't have a newer pic with that

 

But my wife's side got a much bigger overhaul.

Added in drawers, shelves and shoe rack to that pic above where it showed the before



Then added a shelf along the top for more storage

And in the previous island she got shelves up top and 12 adjustable shoe racks that are tilted to see better.  Also face framed the end to look nicer and go with the rest of the closet

 

Nice work!

As an aside, does anyone in your family know how to fold a golf shirt and store off a shirt hanger?

Also, my wife is running circles around yours in the shoes, boots and purses race to infinity.

[Lhorn 4904]

Damn.  Nice work!!

[utee94 15752]

Really nice work.

That before pic almost gave me a panic attack.