Texas O-line talk

[gmr548 16616]

6 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

Can someone break down this running play for me?  Do we even practice?

 

To me, that looks like miscommunication on the playcall of a counter. Majors should be blocking down on the 1-tech and Okafor should also be pulling. But that's just a guess. Colossal clusterfuck on assignments regardless.

Edited September 12, 2021 by gmr548

[TexasBeta 1266]

1 hour ago, sith_horn said:

Not knocking on Casey here but he had more time in the pocket on several of his passes. He wasn't facing near the blitzkrieg at that point of the game. That's not to say he shouldn't have been plugged in earlier though. I think Sark didn't want Card to feel shorted on his chance to right the rudder while making mistakes as a freshman QB on the road, but gave him too much opportunity given the circumstances IMO. We'll never know if the game would have turned out differently had Thompson started the game from the get-go. There is only so much that can be done when the OL play is that disastrous.

No offense.. and I get what you are saying.. but "I think Sark didn't want Card to feel shorted on his chance to right the rudder while making mistakes as a freshman QB on the road, but gave him too much opportunity given the circumstances IMO. "

 

Fuck Card's feelings

[tbone_ 14161]

Can someone break down this running play for me?  It's looks like we literally blocked 1 guy, maybe 2.  Do we even practice?
 

I’m no football coach but it looks like 65 fucked up and should have blocked 93 because 75 was pulling to the left to be a lead blocker. Instead 93 destroyed the play and 75 was past him pulling before he could do anything about it.

I think the idea was to set a wall of blockers to the right and have Bijan follow the pulling guard as a lead blocker to the left. Looked like there could have been room briefly if not for 65 going the wrong way and letting 93 wreak havoc.

[gmr548 16616]

2 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

I’m no football coach but it looks like 65 fucked up and should have blocked 93 because 75 was pulling to the left to be a lead blocker. Instead 93 destroyed the play and 75 was past him pulling before he could do anything about it.

I think the idea was to set a wall of blockers to the right and have Bijan follow the pulling guard as a lead blocker to the left. Looked like there could have been room briefly if not for 65 going the wrong way and letting 93 wreak havoc.

Yeah, I certainly think it's a major fuckup, if you will, on a power/counter. Not sure if Okafor is doing his job either. Pig had numbers anyway but if the nose gets downblocked and the lead blocker (s) can actually give Bijan something to work with there's potential.

[sith_horn 2407]

1 minute ago, TexasBeta said:

No offense.. and I get what you are saying.. but "I think Sark didn't want Card to feel shorted on his chance to right the rudder while making mistakes as a freshman QB on the road, but gave him too much opportunity given the circumstances IMO. "

Fuck Card's feelings

Absolutely. Wasn't defending Sark's judgement on waiting too long to make the switch.

[Texas Flood 1356]

36 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

Can someone break down this running play for me?  It's looks like we literally blocked 1 guy, maybe 2.  Do we even practice?

 

That's coaching. More infuriating to realize this is our 2nd play of the game - so much for the players knowing their responsibilities on scripted plays.

[tbone_ 14161]

That's coaching

Are you sure? Seems like a pretty standard play to me. Like the kind of shit you should be born knowing as a OL player.

[Poe It Up 126]

I’m pining to go back to those summer days when Burt Macklin was polishing this turd of an Oline group. 
 

But seriously, how in the hell do you pimp Bijan for an entire year and completely ignore the one position group that can fuck it all up? 

[ImissWallyPryor 9046]

42 minutes ago, TexasBeta said:

No offense.. and I get what you are saying.. but "I think Sark didn't want Card to feel shorted on his chance to right the rudder while making mistakes as a freshman QB on the road, but gave him too much opportunity given the circumstances IMO. "

 

Fuck Card's feelings

You chose your username to honor our OL?

[Texas Flood 1356]

9 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Are you sure? Seems like a pretty standard play to me. Like the kind of shit you should be born knowing as a OL player.

If only there was someone who could play the person who was born knowing what to do.

[HtownHorn 14779]

55 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

Can someone break down this running play for me?  It's looks like we literally blocked 1 guy, maybe 2.  Do we even practice?

 

It looks like you are asking guys to execute something no one on the line is currently capable of executing.

Edited September 12, 2021 by HtownHorn

[Gucci_Suit 2656]

You can definitely see what the play was designed to do. The problem is that the OL doesn’t really look like they’re interested in actually playing football. It kinda looks like they think it’s a walk-thru practice. 

[Nivek 16986]

1 hour ago, Spider2YBanana said:

Why isn't this getting more love? I owe you an up-vote when I get some back. 

should be nO-line

[futureman 22545]

13 hours ago, dcar00 said:

not getting one OL to portal is a huge red flag with Flood.  the OL recruiting at this point might mean Sark may have to put on his big boy pants pretty damn quick.

what would that entail?

[hookem48 4703]

2 hours ago, bschoolprof said:

Can someone break down this running play for me?  It's looks like we literally blocked 1 guy, maybe 2.  Do we even practice?

 

that guy we had four guys blocking didn't do shit

[USNALonghorn 5078]

3 hours ago, bschoolprof said:

Can someone break down this running play for me?  It's looks like we literally blocked 1 guy, maybe 2.  Do we even practice?

 

No wonder our D-line thought they were 2018 Clemson 

[pacman 7371]

Don't have a moment to post all but quick glance at ratings, Angilau had a solid day. He has been both our best and most consistent, playing at a solid level in both pass and run.

 

Majors was historically bad yesterday.

When people say a blocking dummy would have been better, they are thinking of Majors against Arkansas.

His pass blocking rating was an 11. ELEVEN!

This motherfucker gave up 3 hurries and a sack.

Edited September 12, 2021 by pacman

[nineliveslost 2796]

3 hours ago, bschoolprof said:

Can someone break down this running play for me?  It's looks like we literally blocked 1 guy, maybe 2.  Do we even practice?

 

just sad . not even mad anymore 

[bullet 1599]

5 hours ago, EuroHorn said:

Offense looked decent with Thompson in the game 

Card made Case McCoy look like a good deep ball passer.  That was what Arkansas was giving and Card couldn't hit.

[HtownHorn 14779]

Majors needs to go back to the bench and weight room. He's not physically ready, time to move Angilau to center.

I would go with a line of

Karic, Jones, Angilau, Conner, Kerstetter. If Jones isn't healthy then put Hookfin at LG.

[Cajun 11740]

6 hours ago, Sgt Hulk said:

this right here,  not a single person on the o line stood up for his QB.  not a single one.  Ive watched highschool games where any late hit on any player and the team mates  the brothers the battles rush over to crush these offender for hitting their brother.  not a single slack jawed pussy out there did anything to defense hudson they jsut looked around like durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.   you kick that dude squarely in his throat for cheap shotting your QB and you send a message thats my QB dont touch him.

 

but then again we have a team full of pussies 

Alabama is a man factory while Texas is nothing more than a conveyor belt for churning out soft, fruity, pussies.  And these pussies are coddled and given platforms to emote, which they eat up.
 

It has gotten beyond old.

[LTtxfan 49356]

5 minutes ago, Cajun said:

Alabama is a man factory while Texas is nothing more than a conveyor belt for churning out soft, fruity, pussies.  And these pussies are coddled and given platforms to emote, which they eat up.
 

It has gotten beyond old.

 

[hookem48 4703]

1 minute ago, LTtxfan said:

 

the fuck it can't

[LTtxfan 49356]

Burton:

This was no fluke. Texas was marshmallow soft up front, and Arkansas drove that point home with authority. The Texas offensive line couldn’t have looked worse from the outset. Hudson Card was routinely flushed against a three-man rush. And the Texas OL always seemed a step slow in the run game. Meanwhile, the defensive front (the DL and LBs) couldn’t even pretend to hold up against the run from the second quarter on. It was a brutal game to watch because, physically, the contest wasn’t even close. Texas got blown off the ball on both sides of scrimmage. They looked soft. They lacked explosiveness. 

 

[maninblack 7974]

PFF Grades 

Kerstetter: 81.8 

Angilau: 71.4 

Jones: 68.2 

Okafor: 63.2 

Majors: 43.9

 

[futureman 22545]

5 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

 

it’s continued for the last 10+ years. 

[futureman 22545]

remember when Tyler Johnson was gonna be good? that was awesome. 

[Starfleet Command 441]

2 minutes ago, maninblack said:

PFF Grades 

Kerstetter: 81.8 

Angilau: 71.4 

Jones: 68.2 

Okafor: 63.2 

Majors: 43.9

 

If I recall, these look better than the first week grades outside of Majors. 

[Tex-19 2885]

2 minutes ago, maninblack said:

PFF Grades 

Kerstetter: 81.8 

Angilau: 71.4 

Jones: 68.2 

Okafor: 63.2 

Majors: 43.9

 

Other than Majors those grades aren't that terrible. Surprising.

[gmr548 16616]

The pass pro wasn't that bad. Card often had a lot of time (partially by design given piggy's three-man rush) and did exactly nothing with it. I'm surprised anyone is into the 70's or 80's given the run game struggles though.

[Cajun 11740]

I’d say all that does is call into question the metrics used to produce those bullshit grades.

[JFKFC 4891]

They all suck.

[hookem48 4703]

2 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

The pass pro wasn't that bad. Card often had a lot of time (partially by design given piggy's three-man rush) and did exactly nothing with it. I'm surprised anyone is into the 70's or 80's given the run game struggles though.

pass pro was pathetic

[hookem2010 2625]

The O line was pretty consistently bad, but I felt like they got somewhat better in pass pro after the first 2 horrible series. After that, seemed like Card moved into trouble more often than not. Run blocking was consistently pathetic

[Gucci_Suit 2656]

The person who solves OL at this University should have the stadium named after him (or her) and a lifetime supply of pom squad blowjobs (or pussjobs). 

There are a lot of things that matter. But this is most important thing this coaching staff has to turn. 

[Nivek 16986]

1 hour ago, hookem48 said:

that guy we had four guys blocking didn't do shit

Okafor blocked Majors.   Does that count?

[JFKFC 4891]

1 minute ago, Gucci_Suit said:

There are a lot of things that matter. But this is most important thing this coaching staff has to turn. 

Other staffs didn't have the transfer portal. Sark did, and decided to roll with these fucktards. 

[hookem48 4703]

3 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Okafor blocked Majors.   Does that count?

why not, Brewer tackled Jamison on a kickoff return

[hookem48 4703]

5 minutes ago, JFKFC said:

Other staffs didn't have the transfer portal. Sark did, and decided to roll with these fucktards. 

didn't we try to get the guy from Tennessee but he went to OU?

[Gucci_Suit 2656]

1 minute ago, JFKFC said:

Other staffs didn't have the transfer portal. Sark did, and decided to roll with these fucktards. 

Truth. But you never know who you have until your see your guy punched in the mouth. I’ve seen a lot of practice fire breathers in my day, only to witness them gargle another dude’s balls in the game. If these pussies somehow get better during the season, we hit the portal in the off-season, and put a half-legit product on the field next season, we will know these coaches get it. It’s been a while since anyone has really “got” the OL situation at UT. They all just come in and do exactly what they did at whatever sec school they came from. Our OL situation needs prison hazing. 

[HtownHorn 14779]

31 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

The pass pro wasn't that bad. Card often had a lot of time (partially by design given piggy's three-man rush) and did exactly nothing with it. I'm surprised anyone is into the 70's or 80's given the run game struggles though.

Texas was somewhat successful running to the right. It was a disaster going left.

[Tex-19 2885]

1 minute ago, HtownHorn said:

Texas was somewhat successful running to the right. It was a disaster going left.

I noticed this against ULL too. Running outside zone right seems pretty effective. Everything else is crap

[SuckitKevin 920]

7 hours ago, Sgt Hulk said:

this right here,  not a single person on the o line stood up for his QB.  not a single one.  Ive watched highschool games where any late hit on any player and the team mates  the brothers the battles rush over to crush these offender for hitting their brother.  not a single slack jawed pussy out there did anything to defense hudson they jsut looked around like durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.   you kick that dude squarely in his throat for cheap shotting your QB and you send a message thats my QB dont touch him.

 

but then again we have a team full of pussies 

This right here is why I don’t think many of our O-Line problems have anything to do with talent. Please find me a starter that when recruited most if not all major programs in the region wouldn’t have given their left nut for at the time, and yet they all have better lines than we do. It’s development and coaching. When an opponent’s cheap shots anger fans more than the players, the right kind of attitude is not being developed in practice.

[SuckitKevin 920]

Bring Kasey Studdard in as an assistant to show these dipshits how to play with a mean streak. I’m not even kidding. There should be zero tolerance for playing like a pussy.

[BurntOrange&White 40010]

What did pff grade our lines

[EuroHorn 3268]

1 hour ago, bullet said:

Card made Case McCoy look like a good deep ball passer.  That was what Arkansas was giving and Card couldn't hit.

Yep, Card missed some deep throws that would have changed the game. 

[Elmer_Fudd 22317]

10 hours ago, Sgt Hulk said:

this right here,  not a single person on the o line stood up for his QB.  not a single one.  Ive watched highschool games where any late hit on any player and the team mates  the brothers the battles rush over to crush these offender for hitting their brother.  not a single slack jawed pussy out there did anything to defense hudson they jsut looked around like durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.   you kick that dude squarely in his throat for cheap shotting your QB and you send a message thats my QB dont touch him.

 

but then again we have a team full of pussies 

Yep.  You think Studdard, Sendlein, Blalock would have let that shit fly?  Need to find some Kyle Turley types that'll rip someone's helmet off and go after people, 15 yard penalty be damned.

Edited September 13, 2021 by Elmer_Fudd

[Sgt Hulk 13840]

10 hours ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Yep.  You think Studdard, Sendlein, Blalock would have let that shit fly?  Need to find some Kyle Turley types that'll rip someone's helmet off and go after people, 15 yard penalty be damned.

I’m willing to let a 15 yarder fly if you establish early on that your jaw will get broke if you try to fuck around ans find out. It’s as much of a mental game if you know the guy is a freaking psycho and not a stay puft marshmallow man

[BurntOrange&White 40010]

x-posting my thoughts from the back away from the ledge thread:

 

Need to make some personnel changes IMO. Okafor is a huge liability

Jones/Karic(LT) - Angilau(LG) - Majors/Kerstetter(C) - Conner(RG) - Kerstetter/Jones(RT)

 

Would be interested to see the guard shuffle first. If that works then we know how bad Okafor really was. 

If not, you have to shuffle more. Not sure what the best combination would be but Majors looked pretty bad vs Arkansas. Maybe go with what NFL scouts are seeing in Kerstetter as a center and go with the following:

Karic, Angilau, Kerstetter, Conner, Jones

 

 

Edited September 13, 2021 by BurntOrange&White

[Thatguy 8860]

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

x-posting my thoughts from the back away from the ledge thread:

 

Need to make some personnel changes IMO. Okafor is a huge liability

Jones/Karic(LT) - Angilau(LG) - Majors/Kerstetter(C) - Conner(RG) - Kerstetter/Jones(RT)

 

 

   That game going the way it did, despite hurting us as fans, might be the best thing that ever happened going forward. I remember back in the early Mack years they would trot out whatever lineups and we would cake walk into Dallas only to get punched in the mouth by OU before we made changes. Happened yearly like clockwork. The early punch in the mouth SHOULD give this coach and team a sense of urgency, and maybe, just maybe, they will have their shit together going into Dallas.