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3 hours ago, ATLLonghorn said:

I'm still perplexed by this. Texas has an unnamed #99 lined up next to Banks on the left side. Jermayne Lole is the only 99 on the roster. Teams use DL as extra run blockers pretty commonly, but if that was Lole why wouldn't his jersey have a name on it? I have no idea who that is and why there's a player with no name on his jersey on the field. He tries to get to a linebacker instead of blocking Tuimoloau and Helm doesn't do jack shit and Tui makes the play. The whole thing is confusing me.

Wow…I hadn’t really looked at this play since watching live and all I can do is shake my head. Blocking just looks like ass and every coach should be embarrassed especially Flood and Sark. 99 has no business in there as he gets rag dolled. Hutson gets thrown to the ground. Helm has hands on no one. Majors gets stone walled and pushed back into the run. Connor gives no help to Majors and instead effectively blocks air as Banks pushes his guy out. Looks like Oklahoma 2023. They have to fix this shit and someone’s ass needs to get chewed. Go to a coach’s clinic because for 2 years this hasn’t been fixed.

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2 minutes ago, taybo20 said:

Wow…I hadn’t really looked at this play since watching live and all I can do is shake my head. Blocking just looks like ass and every coach should be embarrassed especially Flood and Sark. 99 has no business in there as he gets rag dolled. Hutson gets thrown to the ground. Helm has hands on no one. Majors gets stone walled and pushed back into the run. Connor gives no help to Majors and instead effectively blocks air as Banks pushes his guy out. Looks like Oklahoma 2023. They have to fix this shit and someone’s ass needs to get chewed. Go to a coach’s clinic because for 2 years this hasn’t been fixed.

This play is perfect for what I'm talking about. Just get your hat on a man and Gibson probably scores. The line seems to take on a person's of "I'm going to try to stop you from getting through me." Rather than "I'm going to drive your fuckin face into the dirt." Running is about toughness and attitude. 

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1 hour ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

Wish people would stop saying this shit. It's not always about size. Conner Williams was a small tackle and would maul people in the run game. Studdard and Blalock weren't giants. 

Nobody said always.

Connors problem is one of Size/Strength (and technique). His lack of strength at the point of attack gets him ragdolled.

Williams, Studdard, Blalock weren't giants but they were big/strong enough not to get tossed aside in college. 

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7 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Flood needs to get his shit together...

ASU OL with a lot less talent, played much better as a unit than the Texas OL.  Really disappointing season for Flood's group...  😬

RB injuries and personnel were part of the problem. 

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3 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

RB injuries and personnel were part of the problem. 

Texas OL group was one of the biggest contributors to the Texas offensive struggles this season.

IMO our OL was the most disappointing position group for this 2024 season.  Flood had plenty of talent to work with -- his OL group significantly underperformed.

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2 hours ago, taybo20 said:

Wow…I hadn’t really looked at this play since watching live and all I can do is shake my head. Blocking just looks like ass and every coach should be embarrassed especially Flood and Sark. 99 has no business in there as he gets rag dolled. Hutson gets thrown to the ground. Helm has hands on no one. Majors gets stone walled and pushed back into the run. Connor gives no help to Majors and instead effectively blocks air as Banks pushes his guy out. Looks like Oklahoma 2023. They have to fix this shit and someone’s ass needs to get chewed. Go to a coach’s clinic because for 2 years this hasn’t been fixed.

Who is giving this coaching clinic because we’ve pretty much whipped everyone else’s ass in short yardage the past two years?

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14 minutes ago, GTNY said:

Helm is such a terrible blocker (or he just doesn't care)... So many blown up plays this year I've rewatched only to notice Helm totally whiff on key blocks

Helm has reached favored player status.  I think the ineffectiveness of TE blocking has been understated.  There were questions about Sanders blocking last year.  Maybe it goes beyond the players.

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8 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

Who is giving this coaching clinic because we’ve pretty much whipped everyone else’s ass in short yardage the past two years?

Idk but I’ve had enough of poor red zone execution. And quite frankly, the poor execution of this running game in our losses has me concerned. So, yeah, learn something from somebody.

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7 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

Helm has reached favored player status.  I think the ineffectiveness of TE blocking has been understated.  There were questions about Sanders blocking last year.  Maybe it goes beyond the players.

I think it’s absolutely worth questioning Jeff Banks… his ST were pretty bad and his TEs don’t block. 

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16 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Texas OL group was one of the biggest contributors to the Texas offensive struggles this season.

IMO our OL was the most disappointing position group for this 2024 season.  Flood had plenty of talent to work with -- his OL group significantly underperformed.

So why did we suddenly start running way more OZ this year when we've previously ran IZ far more?

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42 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Flood needs to get his shit together...

ASU OL with a lot less talent, played much better as a unit than the Texas OL.  Really disappointing season for Flood's group...  😬

I'd be OK finding a better replacement for him. 

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10 minutes ago, taybo20 said:

Idk but I’ve had enough of poor red zone execution. And quite frankly, the poor execution of this running game in our losses has me concerned. So, yeah, learn something from somebody.

I’m curious about practice allocation as we’ve seen fluctuations in pass pro and run game effectiveness.  Or maybe it’s pregame coaching/analyst allocation.  Too many wild swings.

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3 hours ago, taybo20 said:

Wow…I hadn’t really looked at this play since watching live and all I can do is shake my head. Blocking just looks like ass and every coach should be embarrassed especially Flood and Sark. 99 has no business in there as he gets rag dolled. Hutson gets thrown to the ground. Helm has hands on no one. Majors gets stone walled and pushed back into the run. Connor gives no help to Majors and instead effectively blocks air as Banks pushes his guy out. Looks like Oklahoma 2023. They have to fix this shit and someone’s ass needs to get chewed. Go to a coach’s clinic because for 2 years this hasn’t been fixed.

Hayden Conner blocking like it's an extra point kick. lol

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2 hours ago, Jkwellborn said:


His line held like a mother fucker too.

Do whatever they allow amiright?

2 hours ago, hookem48 said:

the passing lanes he had that we never fucking have is the most frustrating thing of all.

That is because they don't have a Majors and Conner getting displaced backwards some yards every snap.

*Looks to see if he is in the Quinn Ewers thread*

People around here think that shit is normal but it's not. The scariest thing for a QB is a shrinking the pocket from the front. You can't tell anyone around here shit though. Glad you see the space and windows Will Howard had all night. That's what it is supposed to look like. We aren't going to do shit around here until our line is right. We have to be able to run the ball. Asking your QB to throw for 300 yards every game is not a recipe for success.

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2 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

So why did we suddenly start running way more OZ this year when we've previously ran IZ far more?

Because we lack the interior to move people. In IZ we cannot climb to the second level to create lanes. What ends up happening is we combo block and then the guys get stoned leaving their LBs free to make plays. This has been an issue for all the time Majors has been here. It starts with him, and then Conner. If either one of them can hold up on a solo then we can reach the second level.

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12 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Because we lack the interior to move people. In IZ we cannot climb to the second level to create lanes. What ends up happening is we combo block and then the guys get stoned leaving their LBs free to make plays. This has been an issue for all the time Majors has been here. It starts with him, and then Conner. If either one of them can hold up on a solo then we can reach the second level.

We ran IZ last year with Majors and Conner starting. Wisner and Blue are both best at OZ and lack the size to run IZ regularly.

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3 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Texas OL group was one of the biggest contributors to the Texas offensive struggles this season.

IMO our OL was the most disappointing position group for this 2024 season.  Flood had plenty of talent to work with -- his OL group significantly underperformed.

 

Crossposting... big factor here is poor performances by our OL in big games.

 

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1 hour ago, Schulz2.0 said:

We ran IZ last year with Majors and Conner starting. Wisner and Blue are both best at OZ and lack the size to run IZ regularly.

You can get away with IZ with less than ideal blocking if your backs can get their own yards. We had those kinds of backs in the past. Now we do not. Regardless. Go back and watch us run it against anyone with a pulse. And remember that was against a Big12 schedule.

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34 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

You can get away with IZ with less than ideal blocking if your backs can get their own yards. We had those kinds of backs in the past. Now we do not. Regardless. Go back and watch us run it against anyone with a pulse. And remember that was against a Big12 schedule.

I'm not saying Conner and Majors aren't part of the problem in the power run game. They are. I also think we've loaded up on too many 3rd down type backs and not taken enough guys that can run IZ and power through arm tackles. Same for not really having an effective blocking TE for Sark's entire time here. We've ran out a weird amalgamation of scheme fit personnel, particularly this year. 

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