Texas O-line talk

[sushihorn 3,233]

On 9/14/2019 at 9:31 AM, texifornia said:

Fair, but I was mostly pointing out he wasn't a Tyler Johnson-style obvious can't miss stud.

True.  Just the closest thing we had under the prior regime IIRC.  Unfortunately the injury situation kept us from seeing what Herman could do with Conner in the one year he had him.

[Machinator 32,098]

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,855]

On 9/14/2019 at 11:50 PM, Coach pop a bitch said:

It's gonna be interesting to see if shack can't play next week who is gonna start at C? 

looking like he may be able to go after all, so you all wasted your time

[LTtxfan 49,075]

8 hours ago, Machinator said:

 

 

YUM..... BRAUN-CAKES!!!

[Coach pop a bitch 5,459]

Ingram had holes all night. 114 yards. 5.4 ypc. Oline was bullying the okstate dline. 

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[sushihorn 3,233]

217 yards rushing.  5.0 YPC.  ZERO sacks.

Other than the rushed play on the failed 4th down conversion, the Texas OL owned the LOS.

[Coach pop a bitch 5,459]

1 hour ago, sushihorn said:

217 yards rushing.  5.0 YPC.  ZERO sacks.

Other than the rushed play on the failed 4th down conversion, the Texas OL owned the LOS.

After the 1st qt you could tell there was no way in hell the okstate Dline stood a chance.

[XYZ 2,154]

The failed 4th down attempt was an abortion of a play. They were all looking at each other and at the sideline, then they eventually get set with a body language indicating that they had no idea what to do.

[Red Five 40,723]

Play-action there might have scored a touchdown. 

I swear, we should have won that game by 20 points, but yet I feel fortunate to have won at all. Weird game. 

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4 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Play-action there might have scored a touchdown. 

I swear, we should have won that game by 20 points, but yet I feel fortunate to have won at all. Weird game. 

It was a weird game. The special team shit show kept Gundy in it. 

[Coach pop a bitch 5,459]

West Virginia is allowing 172 yards running per game with 4.18 yards per carry. I'm confident they haven't dealt with a coach hand type of line. Can we expect a healthy Ingram to rush for more then 150? I say fuck yes.

[ckhorn 208]

4 hours ago, XYZ said:

The failed 4th down attempt was an abortion of a play. They were all looking at each other and at the sideline, then they eventually get set with a body language indicating that they had no idea what to do.

Yeah, that has bitten Herman in the ass several times. We hurry up and run straight into eight defenders with five blockers.

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19 minutes ago, ckhorn said:

Yeah, that has bitten Herman in the ass several times. We hurry up and run straight into eight defenders with five blockers.

herman is just weird there. costs us points in almost every god damn game

also, Sam, what is he doing not getting out of these plays? is he told no matter what to not audible?  wtf is going in here. 

OSU game should have been 45 - 17 or so. Not 36 - 30 or whatever the fuck it was. we are too good of an offense to just fuck up that bad in critial situations

love me the oline. best online in conference. watching them punish motherfuckers makes football happy again 

[futureman 22,441]

2 hours ago, staboner said:

best online in conference

we talking google fiber?

[sushihorn 3,233]

Rewatching OSU it became clear just how dominant the O-Line was.  The left side got caved in frequently using straight zone.  On power and counter the pullers were blowing open huge holes with their kickout blocks.  The Cowboys rarely got penetration, as reflected by only 3 TFLs (each for 1 yd) and ZERO sacks.  I was a bit surprised that Texas averaged only 5.0 YPC but looking at the stats, the 2 kneel downs in victory formation took the YPC from 5.4 to 5.0 and the former is more reflective of what the OL did on Saturday.

[pacman 7,346]

Is Braun redshirting now?

[Eggo 3,976]

7 minutes ago, pacman said:

Is Braun redshirting now?

You serious, Clark?

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13 minutes ago, sushihorn said:

Rewatching OSU it became clear just how dominant the O-Line was.  The left side got caved in frequently using straight zone.  On power and counter the pullers were blowing open huge holes with their kickout blocks.  The Cowboys rarely got penetration, as reflected by only 3 TFLs (each for 1 yd) and ZERO sacks.  I was a bit surprised that Texas averaged only 5.0 YPC but looking at the stats, the 2 kneel downs in victory formation took the YPC from 5.4 to 5.0 and the former is more reflective of what the OL did on Saturday.

Good observations. Actually, OSU did a better job open field tackling than we did. YPC could have been higher if they hadn’t done a pretty good job of bringing our runners down after they breached the LOS. 

[Reynolds Woodcock 4,727]

11 minutes ago, pacman said:

Is Braun redshirting now?

[Machinator 32,098]

15 minutes ago, pacman said:

Is Braun redshirting now?

We can keep JP Urquidez from the starting lineup for only so long.

Edited September 23, 2019 by Machinator

[Tex Long 4,363]

8 hours ago, futureman said:

we talking google fiber?

Otto Korekt, more likely.

[pacman 7,346]

Scipio revived the preseason talk of his playing 4 and redshirting. I missed the intended "joke".

[futureman 22,441]

9 minutes ago, Eggo said:

You serious, Clark?

 

6 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

 

wow.

[HOOK'EMHOOAH 1,610]

I very much like that the big guys up front are mean and nasty. They look for people to hit drive backwards. This attitude is huge. It is the culture of the program. Fuck then up and worry about everything else later.

[futureman 22,441]

1 minute ago, pacman said:

Scipio revived the preseason talk of his playing 4 and redshirting. I missed the intended "joke".

oh fuck me you were serious.  I’ll be goddamned. 

[Eggo 3,976]

2 minutes ago, futureman said:

oh fuck me you were serious.  I’ll be goddamned. 

I'll accept your apology now. 

[Pato del Muerto 52,409]

LOS is great, but it seems like 2nd level blocking isn’t there to allow for long runs. Our rbs might get through the line fairly clean but always are met by next level defenders and have to fight and break tackles to get a 20 yard run. 

Is that a product of how we block, of how defenses play against us, bad luck?

is that the next step the OL or offense needs to take?

[futureman 22,441]

2 hours ago, Eggo said:

I'll accept your apology now. 

[Magus Ossis 2,784]

The 4th down abortion was ugly-- we hurried up but not enough to get the play before OSU was ready. That should have been stopped with a time-out and fixed. The other play I saw going nowhere was mid Q4 I think. Empty set on 3rd and short. It screamed "Sam is keeping with no lead blocker" before the snap to me, and apparently to the entire OSU defense as well. There is a time to get cute and set up future plays. When the run game is working and you need a short gain is not that time.

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6 minutes ago, Magus Ossis said:

The 4th down abortion was ugly-- we hurried up but not enough to get the play before OSU was ready. That should have been stopped with a time-out and fixed. The other play I saw going nowhere was mid Q4 I think. Empty set on 3rd and short. It screamed "Sam is keeping with no lead blocker" before the snap to me, and apparently to the entire OSU defense as well. There is a time to get cute and set up future plays. When the run game is working and you need a short gain is not that time.

Yeah, both times OSU our number sin the box and we failed to check out and throw it or motion a guy in.

I couldn’t believe they didn’t audible either time.

If you’re gonna go empty and OSU keeps numbers in the box, then you either have to throw it or motion a blocker in. 

 

[texifornia 56,596]

2 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Yeah, both times OSU our number sin the box and we failed to check out and throw it or motion a guy in.

I couldn’t believe they didn’t audible either time.

If you’re gonna go empty and OSU keeps numbers in the box, then you either have to throw it or motion a blocker in. 

 

Hopefully Scipio's hunch about Herman's self-castigating in the press conference checks out, and it means he realizes we need to have a second option available on those kinds of plays.

[SA-KC_Horn 1,295]

14 hours ago, ckhorn said:

Yeah, that has bitten Herman in the ass several times. We hurry up and run straight into eight defenders with five blockers.

We're saving the goal line bootleg or counter or play action for ousux.

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[BrazilHorn 6,580]

I like how Texas is organically growing QB but grabbing strong OL from grad market to supplement. 

If you’re a grad transfer OL I’d think you’d be looking long and hard at Texas. 

[mininghorn88 2,272]

I watched almost all of Braun’s games while he was a student at Hallsville. He was a nasty player then that had no regards for the feelings of the person he was blocking. He went full tilt  to the whistle and a little past.

He was a transfer in from Florida and some of the fans did not necessarily care for some of his play because he did not abide by all of the standard “rules” of the Texas high school style of play.

i like to think that his mauling style of play has been infectious to the others on the OL.

He is a pleasure to watch.

[Burt Macklin 19,000]

I don’t think this stat is available for individual games, but Texas’ Offensive Line Yards against OSU must’ve been really high. We had runners going 4-5 yards without contact all the time in that game.  On the season, we’re ranked 29^th, but I’d guess the LSU game is bringing that stat down quite a bit. We struggled to create a ton of rushing yardage that game, but our OL’s been great in the other 3 games and wont face a DL like LSU for the rest of the season.

[futureman 22,441]

21 minutes ago, mininghorn88 said:

he did not abide by all of the standard “rules” of the Texas high school style of play.

[texifornia 56,596]

25 minutes ago, mininghorn88 said:

I watched almost all of Braun’s games while he was a student at Hallsville. He was a nasty player then that had no regards for the feelings of the person he was blocking. He went full tilt  to the whistle and a little past.

He was a transfer in from Florida and some of the fans did not necessarily care for some of his play because he did not abide by all of the standard “rules” of the Texas high school style of play.

i like to think that his mauling style of play has been infectious to the others on the OL.

He is a pleasure to watch.

TXHSFB is soft confirmed

[texasstrong12 4,668]

17 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

I don’t think this stat is available for individual games, but Texas’ Offensive Line Yards against OSU must’ve been really high. We had runners going 4-5 yards without contact all the time in that game.  On the season, we’re ranked 29^th, but I’d guess the LSU game is bringing that stat down quite a bit. We struggled to create a ton of rushing yardage that game, but our OL’s been great in the other 3 games and wont face a DL like LSU for the rest of the season.

And here's the ranks for teams on the schedule based on line yards for the DL-

WV (#120)

OU (#97)

Kansas (#103)

TCU (#8)

K-State (#69)

ISU (#24)

Baylor (#12)

Tech (#50)

We should be able to pound teams in the run game. The only two decent DL we have left on the schedule are TCU and ISU. Baylor has played UTSA, Rice and SFA so ignore their ranking. 

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Just now, texasstrong12 said:

And here's the ranks for teams on the schedule based on line yards for the DL-

WV (#120)

OU (#97)

Kansas (#103)

TCU (#8)

K-State (#69)

ISU (#24)

Baylor (#12)

Tech (#50)

We should be able to pound teams in the run game. The only two decent DL we have left on the schedule are TCU and ISU. Baylor has played UTSA, Rice and SFA so ignore their ranking. 

I expect TCU’s defense to give us a lot of trouble, though I didn’t watch the SMU game, so maybe there’s some exploitable weaknesses there we can prey on.  Plus, our defense should be able to shut down their offense, much like last year. Same goes for ISU.

Baylor’s numbers are undoubtedly inflated due to their joke of a schedule so far.  I bet they’ll be solid against the run but nowhere near #12 by end of year. They’ll probably be the third toughest run D we face after TCU.

Overall though, we should expect 5 YPC in just about every game we play thanks to this OL. Cosmi and Braun have been caving in their side of the line consistently, and it leads to massive cutback lanes when we run OZ to the right.

[EastTexan 662]

21 hours ago, Magus Ossis said:

The 4th down abortion was ugly-- we hurried up but not enough to get the play before OSU was ready. That should have been stopped with a time-out and fixed. The other play I saw going nowhere was mid Q4 I think. Empty set on 3rd and short. It screamed "Sam is keeping with no lead blocker" before the snap to me, and apparently to the entire OSU defense as well. There is a time to get cute and set up future plays. When the run game is working and you need a short gain is not that time.

This will be corrected. Me hope.

[mininghorn88 2,272]

23 minutes ago, futureman said:

For example:  In most high school games that I have witnessed when a player is injured on the field all of the players take a knee.  Braun would always stand refusing to take a knee even when all of the fans were yelling at him to take a knee out of respect.

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[XYZ 2,154]

The Texas o-line play this year is the most solid since when? The Mackovic years?

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3 minutes ago, XYZ said:

The Texas o-line play this year is the most solid since when? The Mackovic years?

05 and 06 were both good lines.  Well 06 was until we had some injuries.  

[ousux 5,588]

I know it's early and we're just getting into the meat of the schedule, but..

If these boys continue playing this way it may go down as one of the best Texas o-lines ever. I mean, Sam has been rarely harrased this year, even by LSU..and seems running holes are a few inches larger as well.

[Machinator 32,098]

42 minutes ago, XYZ said:

The Texas o-line play this year is the most solid since when? The Mackovic years?

2005 O-line was the best in the country.

[futureman 22,441]

6 minutes ago, Machinator said:

2005 O-line was the best in the country.

no, it wasn’t.  it was top 5.

[XYZ 2,154]

4 minutes ago, Machinator said:

2005 O-line was the best in the country.

Counterpoint: in 2005 the play of the o-line was greatly aided by having superman at QB. That dude put so much pressure on defenses that they spent half the time shitting on their pants.