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1) WSU - Haven't played anyone with a pulse yet, but damn they look good doing it

2) USC - Two solid wins to take the heat of Helton, for now

3) Utah - Early favorites to win the south, until last night?

4) Oregon - Nice rebound for what should be  a 9+ win team

5) Colorado - Not sold yet but great comeback against The Corn

6) Cal - Impressive upset in Seattle after a lousy first week

7) Washington - Growing pains with a green QB

8 ) Stanford - Probably better than this ranking but last night will leave a mark

9) ASU - 2-0 but looks like a young team with some issues all-around

10) OSU - Two respectable losses (Rainbows are tough on the Islands)

11) Arizona - Sumlin can't field a defense worth a shit

12) UCLA - Chip can't field an offense team worth a shit

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2 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

Cal's defense and run game looked great last night, and I have been told that that's how you win football games.

If the passing game would only play like they did in the second half with some consistency, then Cal could win 8+ games. An average all-around QB performance is all I'm asking for.

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4 hours ago, berlinerbaer said:

If the passing game would only play like they did in the second half with some consistency, then Cal could win 8+ games. An average all-around QB performance is all I'm asking for.

I would be happy with a below average QB.  As it stands, we have arguably the worst QB in D1

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https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/27580320/swann-resigns-short-stint-trojans-ad

USC athletic director Lynn Swann has resigned, university president Carol L. Folt announced in a letter Monday.

In the letter addressed to the "Trojan Community," Folt said Swann's resignation is effective immediately and called him "a leader on and off the field at USC for nearly five decades."

Holt did not provide a reason for Swann's resignation.

Dave Roberts, a special adviser to Folt, will serve as the interim athletic director until a permanent replacement is found.

"The position will be filled with an experienced and accomplished individual," Holt wrote.

USC Trustee Suzanne Nora Johnson, a former vice chairman at Goldman Sachs, will chair the search committee, which includes board of trustees chair Rick Caruso, trustees Jeff Smulyan and William McMorrow, alumni representative Bill Allen, vice president for student affairs Winston Crisp, faculty athletics representative Alan Green, academic senate president Rebecca Lonergan and provost Charles Zukoski. It will also include two student representatives.

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11 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

That's interesting.  I think a lot (most) UCLA fans thought that Chip was a terrific hire, and a bargain considering the price.  

Everyone thought it was a home run hire.  Only at UCLA could a hire like this blow up in our faces.

But he also hired Dorrell, Neuheisel, Mora, and Alford.  He has a lot of swings and misses.

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6 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

He won a lot of games at Colorado dude.  What's your record since he left?   You had some success with that phony-baloney McCartney and that's pretty much it. 

Slick Rick left each of his stops in a worse position than when he arrived. 

He inherited the Colorado and Washington programs during the start of their downward trajectories and was unable to reverse the trends. It sucks to immediately follow McCartney at Colorado, so this is basically true by default. At Washington, he oversaw some good teams that were loaded with off-field problems. The program seemed to collapse when he left and sucked ass for six years.

The lone exception might be UCLA. He left Mora some real talent to inherit, although he really squandered it during his time. 

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18 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

He won a lot of games at Colorado dude.  What's your record since he left?   You had some success with that phony-baloney McCartney and that's pretty much it. 

He took a top 5 team and made them weak.  We should have gone outside of the staff to hire a new coach.  Mac did not want the weasel to replace him. 

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The biggest cultural difference between the SEC and the Pac-12 is that there's not a single SEC school whose ultimate goal is not winning football games, and if you do that, nothing else matters.  They are universities that exist to have football programs; it's why aggy signed on and why OU would be a great fit.  I'm not saying every Pac-12 school is different, but the majority of fans at Washington, Colorado, and UCLA don't want to win football games at the expense of trashing the school's reputation.  That's why Neuheisel is a pariah at each one.  It's also why Texas was a good cultural fit.

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Cowherd spews a lot of unsubstantiated stuff sometimes, but interesting "source" info on Chip Kelly (about 11 min mark).  He's right, it's not about the winning, it's about everything else- disengaged recruiter, aloof with the media, aloof with the boosters.  Couple that with the shittiest performance in DI, and he may be wearing out his welcome fast.

 

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8 minutes ago, Machinator said:

@Sbbruin there's hope?

 

Yeah, it's been known.  Former Bruin and current Fresno St AD Terry Tumey apparently the leading candidate.  I just hope we do a thorough search, and don't hesitate to go outside "the family."  Whoever it is is going to have his work cut out for him.

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On 9/17/2019 at 7:30 PM, Sbbruin said:

Cowherd spews a lot of unsubstantiated stuff sometimes, but interesting "source" info on Chip Kelly (about 11 min mark).  He's right, it's not about the winning, it's about everything else- disengaged recruiter, aloof with the media, aloof with the boosters.  Couple that with the shittiest performance in DI, and he may be wearing out his welcome fast.

 

Of course it's about the winning (or lack thereof).

Oregon fans and media tolerated all of Chip's personality quirks when the Ducks were winning P12 championships.

He's wearing out his welcome because he's losing.

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WTF...

1) Oregon - They haven't shat the bed yet. That loss a Auburn doesn't look that bad

2) Washington - Back into form. Oct 19th will be fun.

3) USC - They have proven their depth. Helton is the one holding the team back.

4) Cal - Only undefeated team remaining west of Norman. Solid road win against the SEC SEC SEC!

5) Utah - Still a favorite to win the south.

6) Colorado - Another south contender. Still don't know how that loss against the flyboys happened.

7) WSU - Even the best Leach teams had their annual WTF game, but man...

8 ) ASU - Mediocre to good team. Will know more after their visit to Berkeley this Friday.

9) UCLA - Huge win, but need to see more, starting next weekend in the Desert.

10) Stanford - Are they bad or just middling? Either way, it's a first for David Shaw.

11) Arizona - Off yesterday. They need to beat UCLA.

12) OSU - I don't think this team is really the worst. They get Furd at home next weekend.

 

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14 minutes ago, berlinerbaer said:

 

9) UCLA - Huge win, but need to see more, starting next weekend in the Desert.

11) Arizona - Off yesterday. They need to beat UCLA.

 

 

Headed to Tucson (via Phoenix) with the boy on Friday.  It’s great knowing we may actually have a shot.  It was looking pretty hopeless through the first 3 and a half games of the season.

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10 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Headed to Tucson (via Phoenix) with the boy on Friday.  It’s great knowing we may actually have a shot.  It was looking pretty hopeless through the first 3 and a half games of the season.

It has to be reassuring going up against Sumlin again. Worked out well for you guys a couple years back.

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