Drunk Delta Driver Disembarked in Disgrace

[Bobby_Batronic 1994]

7 minutes ago, XYZ said:

So what’s the downside to being a pilot? You have to spend a ton of money learning? Takes many years to start getting paid? You gotta have connections to get a job? The job is boring? It requires skills that very few people have?

You have to spend a ton of money learning? Usually. It was relatively cheap when I trained.  Maybe $20-25k.

Takes many years to start getting paid? It did.  The current environment has changed because of mandatory retirement, but you're still gonna take your lumps at several places before landing the dream job.  Some will never land it.

You gotta have connections to get a job? It's a small world.  You have to network and not piss people off. It also helps a fk ton if you were in the military, have female reproductive parts or an excess of melanin.  But that's because SJW's have infested HR departments and is true anywhere.

Those are three big issues.  Time away from home is another. Working a lot of red eyes, weekends and holidays until you get senior, and then working a lot of red eyes, weekends and holidays at the next job and or dream job until you get senior.  And generally having a pretty variable schedule that does not necessarily align with the rest of the working world. My wife, for example, also has a very variable schedule and we spend a small fortune each month on childcare.  I went one stretch where I wasn't home for Thanksgiving 11 years in a row, and missed 10 out of 11 Christmases.  Stuff like that.

It's a pretty kick ass gig once you land at the dream job be it a major airline, fractional/corporate or big freight.  Until then its pretty much an ass kicking with a nice window office.  And I'm not sure someone starting today will necessarily end up doing the same job we're doing now.  Or even leave the ground for that matter.

[Gil Bang 26022]

8 minutes ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

You have to spend a ton of money learning? Usually. It was relatively cheap when I trained.  Maybe $20-25k.

Takes many years to start getting paid? It did.  The current environment has changed because of mandatory retirement, but you're still gonna take your lumps at several places before landing the dream job.  Some will never land it.

You gotta have connections to get a job? It's a small world.  You have to network and not piss people off. It also helps a fk ton if you were in the military, have female reproductive parts or an excess of melanin.  But that's because SJW's have infested HR departments and is true anywhere.

Those are three big issues.  Time away from home is another. Working a lot of red eyes, weekends and holidays until you get senior, and then working a lot of red eyes, weekends and holidays at the next job and or dream job until you get senior.  And generally having a pretty variable schedule that does not necessarily align with the rest of the working world. My wife, for example, also has a very variable schedule and we spend a small fortune each month on childcare.  I went one stretch where I wasn't home for Thanksgiving 11 years in a row, and missed 10 out of 11 Christmases.  Stuff like that.

It's a pretty kick ass gig once you land at the dream job be it a major airline, fractional/corporate or big freight.  Until then its pretty much an ass kicking with a nice window office.  And I'm not sure someone starting today will necessarily end up doing the same job we're doing now.  Or even leave the ground for that matter.

I've heard "big freight" guys say it sucks because it's mostly night flying

[XYZ 2154]

1 hour ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

You have to spend a ton of money learning? Usually. It was relatively cheap when I trained.  Maybe $20-25k.

Takes many years to start getting paid? It did.  The current environment has changed because of mandatory retirement, but you're still gonna take your lumps at several places before landing the dream job.  Some will never land it.

You gotta have connections to get a job? It's a small world.  You have to network and not piss people off. It also helps a fk ton if you were in the military, have female reproductive parts or an excess of melanin.  But that's because SJW's have infested HR departments and is true anywhere.

Those are three big issues.  Time away from home is another. Working a lot of red eyes, weekends and holidays until you get senior, and then working a lot of red eyes, weekends and holidays at the next job and or dream job until you get senior.  And generally having a pretty variable schedule that does not necessarily align with the rest of the working world. My wife, for example, also has a very variable schedule and we spend a small fortune each month on childcare.  I went one stretch where I wasn't home for Thanksgiving 11 years in a row, and missed 10 out of 11 Christmases.  Stuff like that.

It's a pretty kick ass gig once you land at the dream job be it a major airline, fractional/corporate or big freight.  Until then its pretty much an ass kicking with a nice window office.  And I'm not sure someone starting today will necessarily end up doing the same job we're doing now.  Or even leave the ground for that matter.

Thanks for the response. When you say it helps if you were in the military, do you mean military pilot?

Do you think your profession will be replaced by automation in a not too distant future? 

[Bobby_Batronic 1994]

1 hour ago, Gil Bang said:

I've heard "big freight" guys say it sucks because it's mostly night flying

It can be, but that’s not necessarily true. Again, seniority means the ability to pick your schedules. 

[Bobby_Batronic 1994]

14 minutes ago, XYZ said:

Thanks for the response. When you say it helps if you were in the military, do you mean military pilot?

Do you think your profession will be replaced by automation in a not too distant future? 

Military pilot. 

I could see automation taking over in the next 20-30 years. 

[RPM 26354]

You have to spend a ton of money learning? Usually. It was relatively cheap when I trained.  Maybe $20-25k.
Takes many years to start getting paid? It did.  The current environment has changed because of mandatory retirement, but you're still gonna take your lumps at several places before landing the dream job.  Some will never land it.
You gotta have connections to get a job? It's a small world.  You have to network and not piss people off. It also helps a fk ton if you were in the military, have female reproductive parts or an excess of melanin.  But that's because SJW's have infested HR departments and is true anywhere.
Those are three big issues.  Time away from home is another. Working a lot of red eyes, weekends and holidays until you get senior, and then working a lot of red eyes, weekends and holidays at the next job and or dream job until you get senior.  And generally having a pretty variable schedule that does not necessarily align with the rest of the working world. My wife, for example, also has a very variable schedule and we spend a small fortune each month on childcare.  I went one stretch where I wasn't home for Thanksgiving 11 years in a row, and missed 10 out of 11 Christmases.  Stuff like that.
It's a pretty kick ass gig once you land at the dream job be it a major airline, fractional/corporate or big freight.  Until then its pretty much an ass kicking with a nice window office.  And I'm not sure someone starting today will necessarily end up doing the same job we're doing now.  Or even leave the ground for that matter.

Sounds a lot like truck driving without the passenger lives at stake.

[Your Mom 4852]

4 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

 

DaysOff,  at least tell us it was some really good scotch. 

[DaysOff 7975]

Didn't I say up thread the UK doesn't fuck around. Last 2 guys got 10 months and 15 months respectively and no career.

[XYZ 2154]

Does the US fuck around with this?

[Bobby_Batronic 1994]

2 hours ago, RPM said:

4 hours ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

You have to spend a ton of money learning? Usually. It was relatively cheap when I trained.  Maybe $20-25k.
Takes many years to start getting paid? It did.  The current environment has changed because of mandatory retirement, but you're still gonna take your lumps at several places before landing the dream job.  Some will never land it.
You gotta have connections to get a job? It's a small world.  You have to network and not piss people off. It also helps a fk ton if you were in the military, have female reproductive parts or an excess of melanin.  But that's because SJW's have infested HR departments and is true anywhere.
Those are three big issues.  Time away from home is another. Working a lot of red eyes, weekends and holidays until you get senior, and then working a lot of red eyes, weekends and holidays at the next job and or dream job until you get senior.  And generally having a pretty variable schedule that does not necessarily align with the rest of the working world. My wife, for example, also has a very variable schedule and we spend a small fortune each month on childcare.  I went one stretch where I wasn't home for Thanksgiving 11 years in a row, and missed 10 out of 11 Christmases.  Stuff like that.
It's a pretty kick ass gig once you land at the dream job be it a major airline, fractional/corporate or big freight.  Until then its pretty much an ass kicking with a nice window office.  And I'm not sure someone starting today will necessarily end up doing the same job we're doing now.  Or even leave the ground for that matter.

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Sounds a lot like truck driving without the passenger lives at stake.

Runs on diesel and hauls a lot of people or boxes. Yeah, it’s truck driving in three planes of motion. 

[Guest Lobo]

My aunt’s husband was the big freight pilot that cracked a Kalitta 747 in half on the runway in brussels a few years back.  Other than being a corrupt shitbag, he was a decent pilot and probably saved some lives that day.  He liked it better than flying for Northwest.