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Just now, ztejas said:

Shark needs to stay healthy. I guess we can roll out the quarter but you can't play 7 DBs for an entire game or against certain packages on offense - as talented as they are. 

That said - 3-2-6 might be close to our base package this season. 

Most teams can’t. We could get away with it in quite a few matchups because Overshown at Joker and Foster at Nickel is like having two more LBs. We could pretty easily function like a 6 man front with those two even though we’d only have 4 DL and LBs on the field, but it definitely couldn’t be our base in every single game.

Hopefully, we get enough out of Dele or CJ so we can still have the versatility to play a 3-2-6 when needed even if Shark goes down.

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59 minutes ago, Machinator said:

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By: Eric and Justin

This is a good team. I can tell not because of the enthusiasm of sources but by what they're saying. The zero-sum isn't stalemates across the board, it's talented individuals winning and losing their share of battles during robust competition. 

Sources are just as high on the offense as they have been since the spring, while there's a bit more optimism on what the defense can become. 

So far they haven't scrimmaged but situational work amounts to that on a play by play basis.

Quarterback (from sources not direct quotes): Sam's been great, throwing the ball all over the field with no clear favorite target. One day he's hitting Collin Johnson and Malcolm Epps at X, the next it's Duvernay. First play of situational work on Sunday he hit Duvernay for a 60 yard touchdown. Great command of the offense so far but it's early install, he should know it.

Casey is looking to stay in the pocket more and has a better understanding of the playbook. He's becoming more viable as a back-up and at least gives them a chance against a solid opponent. His accuracy isn't great yet (he is sharper) but keeping him in the pocket is step one. He worked hard this off-season.

As third string Roschon isn't getting nearly as many reps. He's not ready to be the back-up yet. He has the mental attributes to get where he needs to be but mechanics and comfort within the offense aren't there yet. He worked with a private trainer over the summer who changed his mechanics some and he's still working through that.

Commentary: No real surprises here. Thompson has some good carry-over from 7 on 7 forcing him to make throws rather than rely on his legs. 

Running back: Jordan Whittington is fast but not a natural, he lacks shake in the hole (being compared to Keaontay doesn't help in this regard). He has decent vision to get to space and is better suited to cut-and-go rather than running between the A and B gaps. 

Keaontay is a beast, he can shake a defender and go for 60. He's bigger and better.

It goes Keaontay, Whittington, Daniel Young, and Kirk Johnson. Kirk isn't getting many carries due to injury history.

There hasn't been much two-back stuff yet but it's coming. They have been going empty out of one-back and Whittington looks very comfortable in that regard.

Commentary: Nothing surprising here either. I've mentioned the questions over Whittington are about how natural he is. He's such a specimen he can get the job done. There will be plays where he leaves yards on the field, there will be other plays where he'll do something special due to raw athleticism. Ingram is the man at the position. 

 Tight End: So far in the first few days tight ends have been split out wide more than in the past. It goes Cade Brewer, Reese Leitao, and Jared Wiley.

Commentary: If they keep using these guys more as receivers we'll start to hear about Brayden Liebrock as camp wears on. It seems like they're about to open this offense up considerably. If they keep using tight ends like this I wouldn't be surprised if they tried Malcolm Epps there.

Wide Receiver: Devin Duvernay is at H, Collin Johnson at X, and Brennan Eagles at Z. 

Johnson looks great and is battling his ass off with Jalen Green, which is good news on Green. Duvernay is making plays like the aforementioned 60-yarder.

Eagles has been quiet but is big and fast. A win will be him getting through camp without tweaking something. 

Jake Smith is very fast and very quick. Expect him to rotate a ton this season. He's already rotating with Duvernay to get him up to speed. Great hands.

John Burt at boundary receiver has been catching the ball and running good routes. Marcus Washington also looks like he's for real, making difficult catches look easy. 

Commentary: It seems like the passing game will continue to go through the slot and boundary. Duvernay had a big spring where he showed good shake (for once) and he catches everything. He and Johnson figure to be the chain movers. It's early in practice so we haven't heard too much about younger guys. Good to hear on Washington. Give him a red-shirt and let the roster thin in front of him. Burt in the boundary just seems like they're going to hammer an offense with Johnson and Epps and then ask Burt to go run by everyone.

 Offensive Line: Sam Cosmi-Parker Braun-Zach Shack-Derek Kerstetter-Denzel Okafor. 

Kerstetter and Okafor are flipping at guard and tackle per the usual. Sources still say that Kerstetter is the better tackle and Okafor the better guard.

A source got excited when he discussed Braun's run blocking. "The left side is going to pick up some people and move them out of the way."

Kerstetter and Okafor have been struggling with Ta'Quon Graham. 

Junior Angilau is the first guard up and Christian Jones the third tackle, though for practical purposes the third tackle is either Okafor or Kerstetter. Tope Imade is viable depth. They have 8 but they still want to get the younger guys up to speed.

Commentary: We know Kerstetter struggles with strength at guard and Okafor with pass rushing at tackle, so, that's probably why Hand has them working on those weaknesses. If they played tomorrow I'd bet Kerstetter was at tackle. Very encouraging to hear about Cosmi and Braun in tandem. They aren't going up against slouches in practice, either.

Defensive Line: "TQ's playing out of his mind." Graham is stacking the line in the running game, making it easier for the linebackers. "Roach is Roach, he's just been going up against Cosmi and Braun."

The front is going to be good, better than we thought. Depth will help a lot. Back-up d-ends are Jacoby Jones and Marqez Bimage for the most part but there's tons of rotation with the twos.

Moro Ojomo is flashing thanks to his ability to penetrate....from defensive tackle. He's made the move.

T'vondre Sweat has been solid. At this point just knowing what's expected of you and not getting caved in is a win for a true freshman.

 Commentary: It should be noted Sunday's practice was four-man install while the previous day was three-man. That's why you heard Graham mention playing 3-technique in his press availability. This is a very deep position, aided by linebacker providing the "fourth man" in most looks.

 Linebacker: McCulloch's been sick and missed a couple practices. That means Ayodele Adeoye (Dele) and Caleb Johnson have been playing more. Joseph Ossai has been playing both B-backer and Rover depending on the defense. 

DeMarvion Overshown is at Joker still which they technically consider a linebacker but he hasn't been at Rover.

Commentary: They need McCulloch back ASAP. The speculation of 3-1-7 was kind of funny because they do basic stuff to open camp but we're supposed to believe they have B-backer Joseph Ossai in the middle flanked by 7 DB's on day three? Obviously this position is a point of concern but I'll wait until McCulloch returns to see what's what.

Cornerback: Jalen Green has been a blanket, it's either a PBU, a pick, or Collin Johnson is having to really work for the catch. Anthony Cook is at 2nd team boundary for now. D'Shawn Jamison is looking good, making a lot plays because he breaks on the ball so quick. "You have to be physical to play corner for Texas because of the way the defense is set up and these dudes are not afraid to hit." 

"For a freshman Kenyatta Watson is balling and will play this year." He's still at corner but may get looks at nickel eventually.

 Commentary: They're really excited about these corners. That doesn't mean they won't make mistakes but the upside at the position is similar to what it is at safety, these guys just don't have the experience yet. As crazy as it sounds, because we've seen Sterns and Foster, I had Green as the #1 player in the 2018 class. I think corner is in better hands than most realize.

 Safety: Brandon Jones and Caden Sterns are all over the place but still not quite back to game speed. They're not far off and are getting where they need to be.

BJ is doing well at nickel in the nickel package, Josh Thompson comes on when they go dime. The way the defense is set up he has safety help over the top. He still needs to iron out some technique issues and get more reps. He'll make a mental mistake every now and then.

 Tyler Owens is impressing like Watson. They're not your typical freshmen. Owens is working at field safety and joker depending on the package they're in.

Commentary: Across the board at DB you're seeing Green at BC, Overshown at J, Sterns at BS, Jones at FS, Foster at N, and Jamison at FC. I'm not saying Jamison will hold on to that spot, but the coaches loves his mentality. What a ridiculously loaded back-end. There isn't just depth behind them, either, there's talent waiting in the wings. 

Special Teams: Practice caveats apply. Even you can make a 10-foot putt when nobody is looking. Dicker's been consistent in drilling from 40-45 yards out and showing the leg for 60. 

Ryan Bujcevski is bigger and stronger and showing more confidence and composure. The ball is just a little bit louder off of his foot. 

Schedule: Monday practice, Tuesday off, Wednesday full pads, Thursday, Friday, Saturday practice, off Sunday.

Note: If a player wasn't mentioned it doesn't mean he's in the dog house, portal, or a Mexican prison. It just means he wasn't mentioned.

 

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1 hour ago, OnAComputer said:

Everybody here missed me asking Brandon Jones about the documentary. Come on people. I did that for y'all.

Can you get me a copy, Will? Texags seems to have memory-holed it. As if the NCAA would hit them for the obvious recruiting violation anyway.

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14 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Most teams can’t. We could get away with it in quite a few matchups because Overshown at Joker and Foster at Nickel is like having two more LBs. We could pretty easily function like a 6 man front with those two even though we’d only have 4 DL and LBs on the field, but it definitely couldn’t be our base in every single game.

Hopefully, we get enough out of Dele or CJ so we can still have the versatility to play a 3-2-6 when needed even if Shark goes down.

Agreed, I think Dele and CJ are going to be fine if anything happens to the starters. 

There's also the option with Ojomo at DT, and running 4-1-6. 

Play the 3-1-7 and if they want to go heavy just put in Ojomo for Overshown. 

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2 hours ago, BurdineBandit said:

You may be right, and obviously we're hoping you're not, but I also hope La. Tech comes to play Week 1 and throws the ball a bunch to put these guys to the fire early. I won't mind giving up 21-28 in a comfortable win (and to an experienced QB/offense) if it means we get the young corners some experience against a Big 12 style wide-open offense. I know LSU is supposed to have revamped their O or whatever but we can't count on them to actually open it up with Burrow. And Rice, well......

Fuck this bullshit. If we give up 21-28 we better have 65 on the board and those 28 came when all the walk ons where on the field 

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35 minutes ago, Zavala said:

Agreed, I think Dele and CJ are going to be fine if anything happens to the starters. 

There's also the option with Ojomo at DT, and running 4-1-6. 

Play the 3-1-7 and if they want to go heavy just put in Ojomo for Overshown. 

Yep. There’s no doubt we’re thin at LB but depth at S and DL should allow us to make up for it no matter what scheme we face.

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Agreed, I think Dele and CJ are going to be fine if anything happens to the starters. 
There's also the option with Ojomo at DT, and running 4-1-6. 
Play the 3-1-7 and if they want to go heavy just put in Ojomo for Overshown. 

This. If there's a need to play bigger you can bring in an extra DL. Graham is working the 3-tech for this purpose I'd imagine. Or you can put in an Ojomo, Christmas, or Chislom, all of whom came up playing DT and are at end now. Coburn/Wilbon at nose as usual. Put 2/3 of Jones, Ossai and Roach on the edges. The depth of the DL and the versatility of Foster (Overshown too, though less proven) allows you to do a lot to hide the weaknesses at LB.

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2 minutes ago, BigHorn'13 said:

Still baffles me that we're entering a season with a solid OL with backups to boot. Running game should be tits

The offense has potential to beat people is so many ways. All the pieces just need to come together and the play calling will need to be more consistent than last year. 

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23 minutes ago, Sock Monkey said:

The offense has potential to beat people is so many ways. All the pieces just need to come together and the play calling will need to be more consistent than last year. 

Better OL makes for better execution.  I've always contended that Beck will get a lot smarter as our OL improves.  Herman was determined to RS everyone possible on the line last season.  They paid the price in depth but a little luck with health kept that price from being too high.  Now we get to see what Okafor and the RS Freshmen can do.

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31 minutes ago, BigHorn'13 said:

Still baffles me that we're entering a season with a solid OL with backups to boot. Running game should be tits

I have a strong reputation as an ass man in the recruiting forums, but “running game should be ass” doesn’t work as well as tits. 

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7 minutes ago, sushihorn said:

Better OL makes for better execution.  I've always contended that Beck will get a lot smarter as our OL improves.  Herman was determined to RS everyone possible on the line last season.  They paid the price in depth but a little luck with health kept that price from being too high.  Now we get to see what Okafor and the RS Freshmen can do.

Beck would look better with a better OL, but he's a truly terrible playcaller and Herman should never let go of those duties. I think the middle 80% of playcallers are interchangeable. I'm pretty sure Beck is in that bottom 10% and Herman may be in that top 10%. 

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2 hours ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Fuck this bullshit. If we give up 21-28 we better have 65 on the board and those 28 came when all the walk ons where on the field 

LaTech’s offense is extremely pedestrian. The only way they put up 28 is for the entire secondary to fall down on the same play. Repeatedly. 

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13 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Beck would look better with a better OL, but he's a truly terrible playcaller and Herman should never let go of those duties. I think the middle 80% of playcallers are interchangeable. I'm pretty sure Beck is in that bottom 10% and Herman may be in that top 10%. 

Herman at Ohio St. was definitely in that top 10% - and with the talent he has on offense this year he should be a top 10% playcaller again.  No way in hell we should try transitioning Beck in again.  Beck is a damn good coach and recruiter - and even if he has graduated to an 'okay' playcaller it would make zero sense to hand him the headset so long as Herman is on the sideline.

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19 hours ago, gmr548 said:

Young secondaries, even when extremely talented, tend to get abused in this league. Holton Hill, Kris Boyd, DeShon Elliot, and soon to be Brandon Jones were big time recruits that panned out into NFL draft picks and all conference guys. They were... Not good when they played early in 2015-16. OU has had no shortage of DB talent in its past few classes and you've seen what's happened to that defense.

I hope I'm wrong, and it does help to have experience over the top at safety, but I would bet on the CBs being a liability on multiple occasions throughout the B12 schedule. That's just life in this league when you trot out guys who aren't battle tested.

It's going to really help the DBs to finally have a plus-pass rush this season. Texas hasn't had one for years.

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By: Eric and Justin

This is a good team. I can tell not because of the enthusiasm of sources but by what they're saying. The zero-sum isn't stalemates across the board, it's talented individuals winning and losing their share of battles during robust competition.

Sources are just as high on the offense as they have been since the spring, while there's a bit more optimism on what the defense can become.

So far they haven't scrimmaged but situational work amounts to that on a play by play basis.

Quarterback (from sources not direct quotes): Sam Ehlinger’s been great, throwing the ball all over the field with no clear favorite target. One day he's hitting Collin Johnson and Malcolm Epps at X, the next it's Duvernay. First play of situational work on Sunday he hit Duvernay for a 60 yard touchdown. Great command of the offense so far but it's early install, he should know it.

Casey Thompson is looking to stay in the pocket more and has a better understanding of the playbook. He's becoming more viable as a back-up and at least gives them a chance against a solid opponent. His accuracy isn't great yet (he is sharper) but keeping him in the pocket is step one. He worked hard this off-season.

As third string Roschon Johnson isn't getting nearly as many reps. He's not ready to be the back-up yet. He has the mental attributes to get where he needs to be but mechanics and comfort within the offense aren't there yet. He worked with a private trainer over the summer who changed his mechanics some and he's still working through that.

Commentary: No real surprises here. Thompson has some good carry-over from 7 on 7 forcing him to make throws rather than rely on his legs.

Running back: Jordan Whittington is fast but not a natural, he lacks shake in the hole (being compared to Keaontay Ingram doesn't help in this regard). He has decent vision to get to space and is better suited to cut-and-go rather than running between the A and B gaps.

Keaontay is a beast, he can shake a defender and go for 60. He's bigger and better.

It goes Keaontay, Whittington, Daniel Young, and Kirk Johnson. Kirk isn't getting many carries due to injury history.

There hasn't been much two-back stuff yet but it's coming. They have been going empty out of one-back and Whittington looks very comfortable in that regard.

Commentary: Nothing surprising here either. I've mentioned the questions over Whittington are about how natural he is. He's such a specimen he can get the job done. There will be plays where he leaves yards on the field, there will be other plays where he'll do something special due to raw athleticism. Ingram is the man at the position.

Tight End: So far in the first few days tight ends have been split out wide more than in the past. It goes Cade Brewer, Reese Leitao, and Jared Wiley.

Commentary: If they keep using these guys more as receivers we'll start to hear about Brayden Liebrock as camp wears on. It seems like they're about to open this offense up considerably. If they keep using tight ends like this I wouldn't be surprised if they tried Malcolm Epps there.

Wide Receiver: Devin Duvernay is at H, Collin Johnson at X, and Brennan Eagles at Z.

Johnson looks great and is battling his ass off with Jalen Green, which is good news on Green. Duvernay is making plays like the aforementioned 60-yarder.

Eagles has been quiet but is big and fast. A win will be him getting through camp without tweaking something.

Jake Smith is very fast and very quick. Expect him to rotate a ton this season. He's already rotating with Duvernay to get him up to speed. Great hands.

John Burt at boundary receiver has been catching the ball and running good routes. Marcus Washington also looks like he's for real, making difficult catches look easy.

Commentary: It seems like the passing game will continue to go through the slot and boundary. Duvernay had a big spring where he showed good shake (for once) and he catches everything. He and Johnson figure to be the chain movers. It's early in practice so we haven't heard too much about younger guys. Good to hear on Washington. Give him a red-shirt and let the roster thin in front of him. Burt in the boundary just seems like they're going to hammer an offense with Johnson and Epps and then ask Burt to go run by everyone.

Offensive Line: Sam Cosmi-Parker Braun-Zach Shackelford-Derek Kerstetter-Denzel Okafor.

Kerstetter and Okafor are flipping at guard and tackle per the usual. Sources still say that Kerstetter is the better tackle and Okafor the better guard.

A source got excited when he discussed Braun's run blocking. "The left side is going to pick up some people and move them out of the way."

Kerstetter and Okafor have been struggling with Ta'Quon Graham.

Junior Angilau is the first guard up and Christian Jones the third tackle, though for practical purposes the third tackle is either Okafor or Kerstetter. Tope Imade is viable depth. They have 8 but they still want to get the younger guys up to speed.

Commentary: We know Kerstetter struggles with strength at guard and Okafor with pass rushing at tackle, so, that's probably why Hand has them working on those weaknesses. If they played tomorrow I'd bet Kerstetter was at tackle. Very encouraging to hear about Cosmi and Braun in tandem. They aren't going up against slouches in practice, either.

Defensive Line: "TQ's playing out of his mind." Graham is stacking the line in the running game, making it easier for the linebackers. "Roach is Roach, he's just been going up against Cosmi and Braun."

The front is going to be good, better than we thought. Depth will help a lot. Back-up d-ends are Jacoby Jones and Marqez Bimage for the most part but there's tons of rotation with the twos.

Moro Ojomo is flashing thanks to his ability to penetrate....from defensive tackle. He's made the move.

T'vondre Sweat has been solid. At this point just knowing what's expected of you and not getting caved in is a win for a true freshman.

Commentary: It should be noted Sunday's practice was four-man install while the previous day was three-man. That's why you heard Graham mention playing 3-technique in his press availability. This is a very deep position, aided by linebacker providing the "fourth man" in most looks.

Linebacker: McCulloch's been sick and missed a couple practices. That means Ayodele Adeoye (Dele) and Caleb Johnson have been playing more. Joseph Ossai has been playing both B-backer and Rover depending on the defense.

DeMarvion Overshown is at Joker still which they technically consider a linebacker but he hasn't been at Rover.

Commentary: They need McCulloch back ASAP. The speculation of 3-1-7 was kind of funny because they do basic stuff to open camp but we're supposed to believe they have B-backer Joseph Ossai in the middle flanked by 7 DB's on day three? Obviously this position is a point of concern but I'll wait until McCulloch returns to see what's what.

Cornerback: Jalen Green has been a blanket, it's either a PBU, a pick, or Collin Johnson is having to really work for the catch. Anthony Cook is at 2nd team boundary for now. D'Shawn Jamison is looking good, making a lot of plays because he breaks on the ball so quick. "You have to be physical to play corner for Texas because of the way the defense is set up and these dudes are not afraid to hit."

"For a freshman Kenyatta Watson is balling and will play this year." He's still at corner but may get looks at nickel eventually.

Commentary: They're really excited about these corners. That doesn't mean they won't make mistakes but the upside at the position is similar to what it is at safety, these guys just don't have the experience yet. As crazy as it sounds, because we've seen Sterns and Foster, I had Green as the #1 player in the 2018 class. I think corner is in better hands than most realize.

Safety: Brandon Jones and Caden Sterns are all over the place but still not quite back to game speed. They're not far off and are getting where they need to be.

BJ is doing well at nickel in the nickel package, Josh Thompson comes on when they go dime. The way the defense is set up he has safety help over the top. He still needs to iron out some technique issues and get more reps. He'll make a mental mistake every now and then.

Tyler Owens is impressing like Watson. They're not your typical freshmen. Owens is working at field safety and joker depending on the package they're in.

Commentary: Across the board at DB you're seeing Green at BC, Overshown at J, Sterns at BS, Jones at FS, Foster at N, and Jamison at FC. I'm not saying Jamison will hold on to that spot, but the coaches loves his mentality. What a ridiculously loaded back-end. There isn't just depth behind them, either, there's talent waiting in the wings.

Special Teams: Practice caveats apply. Even you can make a 10-foot putt when nobody is looking. Dicker's been consistent in drilling from 40-45 yards out and showing the leg for 60.

Ryan Bujcevski is bigger and stronger and showing more confidence and composure. The ball is just a little bit louder off of his foot.

Schedule: Monday practice, Tuesday off, Wednesday full pads, Thursday, Friday, Saturday practice, off Sunday.

Note: If a player wasn't mentioned it doesn't mean he's in the dog house, portal, or a Mexican prison. It just means he wasn't mentioned.
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2 hours ago, MuellerHorn said:

It's going to really help the DBs to finally have a plus-pass rush this season. Texas hasn't had one for years.

I think it can be better than last year, but the bar is pretty low. Texas really didn't get after the passer that well last year, just above to sacks per game. Charles O had a nice year but also largely feasted on cupcakes in terms of sacks.

What does give me hope is that this will be the first time under Orlando thatTexas will have two bona fide pass rush threats the defense has to game plan for. I'm with those expecting big things from Ossai, and I think Coburn will be able to either generate some interior pressure. Both will command some doubles, or at the very least RB/TE help. That leads to a lot of one on ones or free blitzes for the remaining rushers. but in general this scheme is reliant on blitzing to generate pressure. It isn't conducive to a pass rush from the DL. That's a high risk, high reward proposition, and doesn't always generate a ton of pressure in a league built on getting the ball out at lightning speed.

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Not a SINGLE kiss by Coach Herman to any of his players. Troubling. We all know Coach Herman is a big kiss guy. It’s his brand. It’s what has made him successful. 

Bro, what? You don’t believe your team is No. 1 in the Country? If their own coach doesn’t believe in them, how are the players supposed to believe in themselves? This is not the start to the season Horns fans were hoping for when practices kicked off today.

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