Jimbo 2022: Balls To The Face

[Atticus 3920]

10 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

“They?” It’s ok to admit who you are here. 

Bring up Dylan Haines, and people will go nuts. He came here as a walk on, started a lot of games and made quite a few interceptions for us, yet many folks would label him a bust. He’s more disrespected than Blake Gideon by our fan base. 
 

Leon’s play has come nowhere close to expectations, and is light years off of living up to his finger tapping and gum flapping. 
 

And “lost one game?” C’mon man! We saw the games. Certainly true in a literal sense, but it was a pile of wins against shitty teams. I wouldn’t brag if I won a 100 meter race against a guy with one leg. That LSU game was a retard fight. 

Wouldn't consider Haines, a walk-on who started a bunch of games, a bust. He was trash on a trash team, but still contributed above his expectations.

[HtownHorn 14468]

5 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Yeah, I know that O’Neal gets clowned here for good reason but I don’t see how he gets labeled a bust. He’s been starting most games for them for the last two years and played a bunch his first year. He was a starter on a team that lost one game and leaned on its defense. He’s got 4 career picks and a bunch of tackles.

He hasn’t lived up to his mouth, for damn sure. But to me a bust is someone who doesn’t see the field or who is a total liability that makes the team demonstrably worse.  A career starter on a good defensive team isn’t a bust.

I don't want to hear a fucking thing about winning 8 games against teams with a combined .375 winning percentage.

[Tex Pete 20168]

13 minutes ago, Atticus said:

Wouldn't consider Haines, a walk-on who started a bunch of games, a bust. He was trash on a trash team, but still contributed above his expectations.

I would not either, but you can’t mention his name here without crazy rantings against him. He’s the opposite of Leon, yet many people here have a strong dislike of Haines and you’d probably be hard-pressed to find aggies who will speak ill of O’Neal. Like the Loochie versus Fat Ketch deal, or even the super awesome one-loss season thing, they always pump theirs up as the best ever. 
 

i recall some long ago discussions with ags about the greatness of Jaxson Appel. 

[SydneyCarton 47847]

2 hours ago, Tex Pete said:

“They?” It’s ok to admit who you are here. 

Bring up Dylan Haines, and people will go nuts. He came here as a walk on, started a lot of games and made quite a few interceptions for us, yet many folks would label him a bust. He’s more disrespected than Blake Gideon by our fan base. 
 

Leon’s play has come nowhere close to expectations, and is light years off of living up to his finger tapping and gum flapping. 
 

And “lost one game?” C’mon man! We saw the games. Certainly true in a literal sense, but it was a pile of wins against shitty teams. I wouldn’t brag if I won a 100 meter race against a guy with one leg. That LSU game was a retard fight. 

No one would label Dylan Haines a bust because he was a walk-on. Walk-ons can’t be busts because they had no expectations to fail to meet. People would just say Dylan Haines fucking sucked. 

[Vertigo 20265]

Just now, SydneyCarton said:

No one would label Dylan Haines a bust because he was a walk-on. Walk-ons can’t be busts because they had no expectations to fail to meet. People would just say Dylan Haines fucking sucked. 

Dylan Haines was the lesser Blake Gideon. The fact that we couldn't get that guy off the field is an indictment on the Strong regime. 

[SydneyCarton 47847]

2 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

Dylan Haines was the lesser Blake Gideon. The fact that we couldn't get that guy off the field is an indictment on the Strong regime. 

I'm fully aware. Listen, Dylan Haines fucking sucked. But that's not his fault in any way shape or form. I don't wish that motherfucker ill-will. I wish Charlie Strong ill-will. 

[UncleSonny 6524]

I think people are all in agreement here (except for 956). Simply getting on the field and starting a lot of games doesn't save you from being a bust, sucking relative to expectations makes you one. 

Haines started a lot of games and sucked after coming in as a walkon = not a bust

O'neal has started a lot of games and has sucked as a high four star = bust

[Vertigo 20265]

25 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I'm fully aware. Listen, Dylan Haines fucking sucked. But that's not his fault in any way shape or form. I don't wish that motherfucker ill-will. I wish Charlie Strong ill-will. 

But to your original point, the guy far out kicked the coverage as far as what should be expected of a walkon player. It isn't his fault he had a low athletic ceiling, but he was a very smart player who did some good things and often seemed to come up with interceptions at critical times. 

[NorLa Horns 1458]

18 hours ago, Machinator said:

 

I dont tweet at recruits. Even douchey ones like this. 

So I would like to take this opportunity to scream into the cosmos, " shut the fuck up!"

[Scholz 11933]

Enjoy never winning jack squat, Donovan.  Way to think that one through.

[Tex Pete 20168]

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

I'm fully aware. Listen, Dylan Haines fucking sucked. But that's not his fault in any way shape or form. I don't wish that motherfucker ill-will. I wish Charlie Strong ill-will. 

I agree with you. My point to the ag (which I obviously didn't make very clearly) was that we do not laud mediocrity, even if it comes from a walk on. They celebrate it, especially when the mediocre player owns dem durn t-sippers on twitter.

[golfclap 6903]

9 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Yeah, I know that O’Neal gets clowned here for good reason but I don’t see how he gets labeled a bust. He’s been starting most games for them for the last two years and played a bunch his first year. He was a starter on a team that lost one game and leaned on its defense. He’s got 4 career picks and a bunch of tackles  ...    ...  who is a total liability that makes the team demonstrably worse.  A career starter on a good defensive team isn’t a bust.

Why do you say them? Aren't you an Ag? FWIW, that is an atrocious expectation level for a player that was ranked in the top 75 in the country and top 10 in the state. He absolutely is a liability, but much like Haines and Gideon as discussed here, the inability for Elko to recruit over him doesn't mean he's good. 

Aggy as a whole love to talk about what busts the 2018 DBs at Texas are but O'Neal is far less productive than those guys and there are no Texas fans would claim that Sterns or Foster "met expectations" by starting and getting some picks and tackles. The idea that O'Neal somehow meets anyone's expectations is mind-blowing to me. He's been terrible. Trevon Moehrig who aggy decided not to pursue and who could've been aggy produced FAR better than all the others but also has the advantage of having been coached by Paul Gonzales who is really good. Proving that evaluation is key and that development matters. 

O'Neal - 103 tkl - 4 INT - 5 PBU

Sterns - 173 tkl - 5 INT - 8 PBU

BJ Foster - 122 tkl - 2 INT - 9 PBU (2 FF) 

Trevon Moehrig-Woodard - 124 tkls - 7 INT - 21 PBU (2 FF) 

 

 

[totallynotabuttpirate 5342]

9 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

He was a starter on a team that lost one game and leaned on its defense.

This is peak aggy. Just missing some "played in the secsecsec". 

[UncleSonny 6524]

10 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

He was a starter on a team that lost one game and leaned on its defense.

 

10 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

He hasn’t lived up to his mouth, for damn sure. But to me a bust is someone who doesn’t see the field or who is a total liability that makes the team demonstrably worse.  A career starter on a good defensive team isn’t a bust.

Starter on a team that lost one game, won a conference title, and played for a national championship. All those things can be true while still being a total liability.

[Bevo14 8274]

4 minutes ago, UncleSonny said:

 

Starter on a team that lost one game, won a conference title, and played for a national championship. All those things can be true while still being a total liability.

You forgot the other 4 guys.

[UncleSonny 6524]

2 minutes ago, Bevo14 said:

You forgot the other 4 guys.

Man, no bullshit I stared at this depth chart for a good bit trying to decide which guy to use to make that point. Ultimately that Chris Hall picture makes me laugh (and rage) so I had to go with it.

Colt and Ship (plus the defense) pulled some miracles that season to take us as far as we went. 

[956 Worldwide 34422]

47 minutes ago, golfclap said:

Why do you say them? Aren't you an Ag? FWIW, that is an atrocious expectation level for a player that was ranked in the top 75 in the country and top 10 in the state. He absolutely is a liability, but much like Haines and Gideon as discussed here, the inability for Elko to recruit over him doesn't mean he's good. 

Aggy as a whole love to talk about what busts the 2018 DBs at Texas are but O'Neal is far less productive than those guys and there are no Texas fans would claim that Sterns or Foster "met expectations" by starting and getting some picks and tackles. The idea that O'Neal somehow meets anyone's expectations is mind-blowing to me. He's been terrible. Trevon Moehrig who aggy decided not to pursue and who could've been aggy produced FAR better than all the others but also has the advantage of having been coached by Paul Gonzales who is really good. Proving that evaluation is key and that development matters. 

O'Neal - 103 tkl - 4 INT - 5 PBU

Sterns - 173 tkl - 5 INT - 8 PBU

BJ Foster - 122 tkl - 2 INT - 9 PBU (2 FF) 

Trevon Moehrig-Woodard - 124 tkls - 7 INT - 21 PBU (2 FF) 

 

 

I don’t think Foster and Sterns are busts at all.  Recruiting and projecting at the high school level is such an inexact science, even more so than the NFL.  I look at a true NFL bust as someone who doesn’t contribute or play much for the team he’s drafted by.  A first round player who turns into a multi year starter isn’t a bust even if you had all-pro hopes for the guy when you drafted him. And every year you will have some players who turn into All-Pros drafted way down in the lower rounds. Same way, in college, I look at most multi-year starters as a non-busts if they are starting for multiple years on a decent team. That alone means you are a good football player, there are very few people capable of doing that. 
 

When I think NFL bust, I think Jamarcus Russell, Ryan Leaf, Charles Rogers. When I think college bust, I think Ryan Perriloux, Ben Olson, Darrell Scott. I reserve that term for catastrophes and not “this guy was really supposed to be better.” Where O’Neal stands out is his mouth and his knack for truly stupid penalties, which reminds you constantly that “this guy was really supposed to be better.”

 

[Hornlover 8824]

5 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Damnit. I don’t know how to post gifs or I’d post 10-15 of the tortoise being lost on the field.  Dude is a joke who couldn’t find a taker in the portal. 

[BERT 4351]

11 hours ago, Fletch said:

I mean he already coached on the field from ‘09-‘11

'08-'11

[Fletch 5799]

Dammit. Got stoned last night and accidentally hit 9. Point remains 

[BERT 4351]

11 hours ago, Fletch said:

I mean he already coached on the field from ‘09-‘11

'08-'11

[BERT 4351]

WTF?? Stupid ass computer

[texifornia 56489]

Is Xterminator their Spider2YBanana?

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Edited February 25, 2021 by texifornia

[texifornia 56489]

Not sure which mod this is, as the top's cut off. @Longhornfrenzy?

[golfclap 6903]

That's from Hattersley 

[Bevo14 8274]

1 hour ago, texifornia said:

Not sure which mod this is, as the top's cut off. @Longhornfrenzy?

"Wull, we worked our way into his top 16. Just ran outta time."

Edited February 25, 2021 by Bevo14

[Leanderman 2267]

How many recruits release a top 16? Eight maybe?

[Longhornfrenzy 5591]

[Dijon Robinson 1511]

4 minutes ago, Longhornfrenzy said:

"We just got Bobby Taylor, the 37th ranked player in the state while Texas is trending for at least four recruits ranked in the top 50 nationally. Why don't we have the momentum??"

[Longhornfrenzy 5591]

[Dijon Robinson 1511]

1 minute ago, Longhornfrenzy said:

aggy complaining about fishy recruitments?

[Elmer_Fudd 22103]

3 minutes ago, Longhornfrenzy said:

Dear God please be true.  I want us to pull a Demani Richardson and Dylan Wright on them.

[TBD 80]

35 minutes ago, Longhornfrenzy said:

You know when you have a problem....the 1st thing out of your mouth is “these kids want to play in the SEC.”. Not “these kids want to come to college station.” Not “these kids want to wear maroon.”  Not “these kids want to play for ATM.”   Subconsciously, you even know you have an issue.  

[Dijon Robinson 1511]

1 minute ago, TBD said:

You know when you have a problem....the 1st thing out of your mouth is “these kids want to play in the SEC.”. Not “these kids want to come to college station.” Not “these kids want to wear maroon.”  Not “these kids want to play for ATM.”   Subconsciously, you even know you have an issue.  

This is surprising to you? aggy's entire identity as a football team revolves around being a member of the SEC. Not like they have any other accomplishments to brag about. This is nothing new.

[TBD 80]

2 minutes ago, Dijon Robinson said:

This is surprising to you? aggy's entire identity as a football team revolves around being a member of the SEC. Not like they have any other accomplishments to brag about. This is nothing new.

Not surprising at all.  Just wanted to highlight for the Aggie lurkers.  

[fattyflattie 4636]

23 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Dear God please be true.  I want us to pull a Demani Richardson and Dylan Wright on them.

Whatever could you mean? Those were some of the cleanest recruitments they can remember.  Nothing shady at all about being left out of the top 5 then committing 2 weeks later.  Use your brain stupid sip. 

[Hank Scorpio 17721]

Everyone needs to lay off O’Neal, we need him to at least appear to be good. I have a dream that he gets an invite to the combine and then runs a >5.0 40 yard dash. Just imagine. 

[fattyflattie 4636]

7 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said:

Everyone needs to lay off O’Neal, we need him to at least appear to be good. I have a dream that he gets an invite to the combine and then runs a >5.0 40 yard dash. Just imagine. 

I don't know.  An embarrassing season full of blunders and no invite seems pretty cool, too.  He could run a 5.2 or whatever at their pro day. 

[Funk Doctor Spock 11920]

7 hours ago, texifornia said:

Is Xterminator their Spider2YBanana?

  Hide contents

 

Maybe you're soft in the skull, but nothing in that post is anything close to what I post. So, uh, good one? 

[HtownHorn 14468]

I hope we have upped our bag game to the level of Russian nesting dolls.

 

Bags within bags within a bag all surrounded with cash.

Edited February 26, 2021 by HtownHorn

[victory88 5654]

If Harold Perkins some how commits here, it will answer the question if Texas is playing the game.  I hope we are and I hope we do it dirtier than every school out there.  Fuck these other schools.  

[HtownHorn 14468]

1 minute ago, victory88 said:

If Harold Perkins some how commits here, it will answer the question if Texas is playing the game.  I hope we are and I hope we do it dirtier than every school out there.  Fuck these other schools.  

[texifornia 56489]

4 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

I hope we have upped our bag game to the level of Russian nesting dolls.

 

Bags within bags within a bag all surrounded with cash.

And dreadfully distinct, against the dark, a tall white fountain played.

[Elmer_Fudd 22103]

Looks like Kenyon Green is going to play Left Tackle this year.  That's basically someone new at every OL position this upcoming season.

[HtownHorn 14468]

5 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Looks like Kenyon Green is going to play Left Tackle this year.  That's basically someone new at every OL position this upcoming season.

[texifornia 56489]

Looch says they aren't sweeping Neto/Banks/Dewberry. They think that means Neto is the weak link for them - "if I had to guess, I would say we get Banks for sure."

Daddy98: "Why are we losing some kids to tu now? They've been ****?"

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[texifornia 56489]

"Banks is the need. Gotta pony up for him as necessary."

Ain't one of those recruitments, guys.

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[texifornia 56489]

DB bummers

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[golfclap 6903]

32 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Looks like Kenyon Green is going to play Left Tackle this year.  That's basically someone new at every OL position this upcoming season.

[texifornia 56489]

"We cannot lose Banks, Perkins or Harris to them."

As their conference mates would say, "bless your heart, son"

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