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11 hours ago, TexasRenegade said:

The sad thing regarding Calzada is that there are things he does well.....he just has an arrogant leprechaun calling plays that won't tailor the offense to his strengths or minimize his weaknesses.  Instead Jimbo just leaves him out there twisting in the wind trying to run an offense that he isn't equipped to.  

I mean, if we could have a halfway functional offense(hey it was better than what they are currently rolling out in the station) with Case McCoy, Tyronne Swoopes, or Jerrod Heard while being coached by such offensive stalwarts as Shawn Watson, Jay Norvell, Joe Wickline(lol), and Tom Herman.....an offensive genius like the leprechaun should have no worries.

I actually liked some of the stuff Norvell was doing with the offense.

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aggy visit list for the Bama game

2022 Five-star Powell DL Walter Nolen (Official)

2023 Four-star Permian OL Harris Sewell

2022 Four-star Chaparral DL Anthony Lucas

2022 Four-star Clear Lake DB Julian Humphrey

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4 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Lol. Bignole 936, eh? Seems like some good natured FSU trolling. Fisher doesn't regret shit, why would he? He's getting paid and it's not like he was handling the pressures of the ACC any better at the time. 

I don't buy it for a second but I'm enjoying the angst it will bring to Aggy.

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We had some regrets then they had some regrets and then we didn’t get that thing and then we had them there but we didn’t do a good job on the play there at the end but we’ve just got to learn how to do that there and then we just got to coach better and play better.  

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35 minutes ago, Longhornfrenzy said:

aggy visit list for the Bama game

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2022 Four-star Chaparral DL Anthony Lucas

2022 Four-star Clear Lake DB Julian Humphrey

2022 Five-star IMG DL Bear Alexander

2022 Four-star Fort Bend Marshall WR Chris Marshall

2023 Fort Bend Marshall WR Ja'Koby Banks

2024 Four-star Melissa DL Nigel Smith

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1 minute ago, billfromlaketravis said:

This has probably be covered, but let's say Jimbo just retires after the season. Is he still due the entire remaining balance of his contract? 

I am no lawyer, but I don't think retirement qualifies for an accelerated payout. Beyond that they literally have no recourse. 

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1 minute ago, billfromlaketravis said:

This has probably be covered, but let's say Jimbo just retires after the season. Is he still due the entire remaining balance of his contract? 

No.  But he won't need to retire.  He can just do the Paterno thing and sleep through practice then pace the sidelines on game days.

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22 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Lol. Bignole 936, eh? Seems like some good natured FSU trolling. Fisher doesn't regret shit, why would he? He's getting paid and it's not like he was handling the pressures of the ACC any better at the time. 

Jimbo, probably

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1 minute ago, 1leggedduck said:

Forgive me, for I covet those OL recruits. Maybe after they experience Collie Station on an Alabama Slaughter Saturday, some of them will look toward Austin? Particularly if their hosting players aren't thrilled about aggiedom anymore. 

Erb and Thomasson feel like to-the-core aggy. PJ Williams is buddies with Donovan Green, but Vernon Glover seems to really like UT so who knows what's going on at Dickinson.

We certainly have shots at Sewell and Robinson in '23.

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27 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Lol. Bignole 936, eh? Seems like some good natured FSU trolling. Fisher doesn't regret shit, why would he? He's getting paid and it's not like he was handling the pressures of the ACC any better at the time. 

Yeah he made the right move. Shit was already burning down at FSU. Only thing left is to tank hard enough so that they pay him retirement money to go away sooner than later. I hope he sticks around for another 5 years at least though. 

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4 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Finebaum was peak SEC regard yesterday. Many are convinced Kiffin will succeed Oeaux at LSU. 

LSU fan doesn't want Jimbo anymore. So good to watch from afar. 

Kiffin at LSU would be problematic. Herman at LSU might also be problematic, at least in the short term. When your floor is Napier, Orgeron has zero chance of surviving. 

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6 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Finebaum was peak SEC regard yesterday. Many are convinced Kiffin will succeed Oeaux at LSU. 

LSU fan doesn't want Jimbo anymore. So good to watch from afar. 

 

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Kiffin at LSU would be problematic. Herman at LSU might also be problematic, at least in the short term. When your floor is Napier, Orgeron has zero chance of surviving. 

I mean, Kiffin is firmly on the radar for the LSU job, and it isn't just fan wishcasting. I wouldn't call that pure SEC regard.

I don't see Herman being a candidate there considering how he flamed out at Texas, and I certainly don't see why he'd be a problem. 

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2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

 

I mean, Kiffin is firmly on the radar for the LSU job, and it isn't just fan wishcasting. I wouldn't call that pure SEC regard.

I don't see Herman being a candidate there considering how he flamed out at Texas, and I certainly don't see why he'd be a problem. 

For as big of a dickhead as he is, he did a good job recruiting, particularly early. He can always spin the reformed asshole yarn for a bit, but Herman is going to land another solid gig pretty soon. He wasn't a bad coach, just not an elite coach.

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6 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

For as big of a dickhead as he is, he did a good job recruiting, particularly early. He can always spin the reformed asshole yarn for a bit, but Herman is going to land another solid gig pretty soon. He wasn't a bad coach, just not an elite coach.

Define "solid gig." Because while I think someone will for sure hire him again, I think it's going to be at the more Miami or Illinois level, not the LSU or any SEC team not named Vandy or Tenn level.

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19 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

 

I mean, Kiffin is firmly on the radar for the LSU job, and it isn't just fan wishcasting. I wouldn't call that pure SEC regard.

I don't see Herman being a candidate there considering how he flamed out at Texas, and I certainly don't see why he'd be a problem. 

Not that I disagree with you about Herman, but everybody doesn’t see it as Herman flaming out here. 

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I never doubt what any of those aggie dipshits like Hamm, Peroni, Tarp, or Looch would say.

You should when they say things that would ruin their business and/or get their families threatened. 

Except Taylor Hamm. That guy doesn't give a fuck about his family, obviously. 

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They hired Orgeron.

And he DID get them a national title by taking less money and overpaying for assistants...

Granted, I'm a bit colored by the fact that I've had to live through the last 11 seasons regardless, but if someone told you that you'd be a toilet bowl of a program for 11 years, but right in the middle you'd get a national title...would you do it?

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5 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

And he DID get them a national title by taking less money and overpaying for assistants...

Granted, I'm a bit colored by the fact that I've had to live through the last 11 seasons regardless, but if someone told you that you'd be a toilet bowl of a program for 11 years, but right in the middle you'd get a national title...would you do it?

If I was an LSU fan then maybe. They only get their national titles when their coach stumblefucks into one.

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4 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

And he DID get them a national title by taking less money and overpaying for assistants...

Granted, I'm a bit colored by the fact that I've had to live through the last 11 seasons regardless, but if someone told you that you'd be a toilet bowl of a program for 11 years, but right in the middle you'd get a national title...would you do it?

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8 minutes ago, TBGFL said:

Of course it is made up trolling. Doesn't change the fact that it is going to rustle the jimmies of all the Agroid lurkers.

They're getting closer and closer to universal regret that Jimbo left FSU as well.

The stuff about the pressures of the SEC does sound like Aggie reasoning.

"Turns out, Jimbo wasn't SEC ready. We were, but he wasn't."

Another amusing aspect of the Jimbo implosion is the damage he is doing guru Liucci among his faithful. Billy Crotch Face epitomizes the Aggies before the season: unjustifiably confident to the point of arrogance about their arrival at the top and their permanency there.

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24 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Define "solid gig." Because while I think someone will for sure hire him again, I think it's going to be at the more Miami or Illinois level, not the LSU or any SEC team not named Vandy or Tenn level.

 

14 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Solid equivalence there

I actually think Herman would do pretty well at Miami. He did well at UH with a strong "recruit local" approach to a recruit-rich urban area. He'd kill that aspect of recruiting at Miami. The rest of the Florida programs are down or heading there. I realize that there are some Florida/Mullen honks on this board, but he's going to be the same 8/5-10/3 guy there for forever. FSU remains a tire fire. None of the other programs should matter to Miami. 

Miami itself will get behind a hyped-U resurgence, they always do. Herman can do hype with the best of them. The administration at Miami doesn't care about athletics and doesn't want to be embarrassed by scandal, and Herman is relatively unvarnished to the public. 

The ACC is pure trash. I could see Herman winning 10+ there and being one of the only successful guys to ever leave Texas and score some success. 

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If I was an LSU fan then maybe. They only get their national titles when their coach stumblefucks into one.

They've won 3 titles in the past 19 years. We've won 1. Saban won them a title without a stumble. They were the best team in the country, irrespective of the hue and cry coming from Los Angeles at the time. Miles won a truly outrageous title, I will give you that. Orgeron won a title with one of the best seasons in NCAA history. It wasn't a "stumble" and they pretty much kicked ass all season. If Ingram catches that fucking pass, maybe things are different, but he didn't. Peoples' willingness to gloss over the 2019 as a fluke are absurd. That season was no more of a fluke than UT's 2005 season - which means I don't see it as a fluke at all. 

As for the absurd premise between you and Sydney about "would you take a national title in the midst of the last 11 years?", the only genuine response from anyone on this board is "Yes, give it to me right fucking now. Yes, I'll take it! Sold!"

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3 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

They're getting closer and closer to universal regret that Jimbo left FSU as well.

The stuff about the pressures of the SEC does sound like Aggie reasoning.

"Turns out, Jimbo wasn't SEC ready. We were, but he wasn't."

Another amusing aspect of the Jimbo implosion is the damage he is doing guru Liucci among his faithful. Billy Crotch Face epitomizes the Aggies before the season: unjustifiably confident to the point of arrogance about their arrival at the top and their permanency there.

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Liucci is as teflon with that fanbase as fatfuck Ketchum is with his Orangebloods followers. Either one of those guys could do whatever they want to their audience, and they have for years, with impunity. The OB people are as pathetic, lazy, sycophantic and stupid as Texags posters. Mirror images of the same basic idiocy present in any large CFB fanbase.

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9 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I actually think Herman would do pretty well at Miami. He did well at UH with a strong "recruit local" approach to a recruit-rich urban area. He'd kill that aspect of recruiting at Miami. The rest of the Florida programs are down or heading there. I realize that there are some Florida/Mullen honks on this board, but he's going to be the same 8/5-10/3 guy there for forever. FSU remains a tire fire. None of the other programs should matter to Miami. 

Miami itself will get behind a hyped-U resurgence, they always do. Herman can do hype with the best of them. The administration at Miami doesn't care about athletics and doesn't want to be embarrassed by scandal, and Herman is relatively unvarnished to the public. 

The ACC is pure trash. I could see Herman winning 10+ there and being one of the only successful guys to ever leave Texas and score some success. 

 

Herman's dick-headery would also play well in Miami and be interpreted as "bravado" at a program that has always embraced a bad-boy image. The grill. The mocking other players. The professed love of hip-hop. They'll eat that shit up. 

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48 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Define "solid gig." Because while I think someone will for sure hire him again, I think it's going to be at the more Miami or Illinois level, not the LSU or any SEC team not named Vandy or Tenn level.

If you were to rank the football programs in current importance from 1-130 whatever, you'd have something like

 

1-9: The Blue Bloods (Bama, Texas, Oklahoma, Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State, USC, Penn State, Florida )

10-16: Occassional national title winners (Clemson, LSU, Tenn, Florida State, Miami, Auburn, Nebraska)

16-22: Big programs (UCLA, A&M, Georgia, Wisconsin, Mich State, Arkansas, etc.)

23-50: Occasional Conference Winners (Too many to list)

51-130: Shit team (Illinois, others)

 

Miami, while a smaller private school, is clearly a top 20 program. Its about on the same level as LSU.

Illinois is a never-was, and will never be better than the 7th or 8th most important program in the Big Ten.

 

 

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I actually think Herman would do pretty well at Miami. He did well at UH with a strong "recruit local" approach to a recruit-rich urban area. He'd kill that aspect of recruiting at Miami. The rest of the Florida programs are down or heading there. I realize that there are some Florida/Mullen honks on this board, but he's going to be the same 8/5-10/3 guy there for forever. FSU remains a tire fire. None of the other programs should matter to Miami. 

Miami itself will get behind a hyped-U resurgence, they always do. Herman can do hype with the best of them. The administration at Miami doesn't care about athletics and doesn't want to be embarrassed by scandal, and Herman is relatively unvarnished to the public. 

The ACC is pure trash. I could see Herman winning 10+ there and being one of the only successful guys to ever leave Texas and score some success. 

They've won 3 titles in the past 19 years. We've won 1. Saban won them a title without a stumble. They were the best team in the country, irrespective of the hue and cry coming from Los Angeles at the time. Miles won a truly outrageous title, I will give you that. Orgeron won a title with one of the best seasons in NCAA history. It wasn't a "stumble" and they pretty much kicked ass all season. If Ingram catches that fucking pass, maybe things are different, but he didn't. Peoples' willingness to gloss over the 2019 as a fluke are absurd. That season was no more of a fluke than UT's 2005 season - which means I don't see it as a fluke at all. 

As for the absurd premise between you and Sydney about "would you take a national title in the midst of the last 11 years?", the only genuine response from anyone on this board is "Yes, give it to me right fucking now. Yes, I'll take it! Sold!"

Well that's a given. I didn't think it even needed to be said. The comment was tongue-in-cheek because of Les and Orgeron. They had an outstanding team in 2019. I think it was significantly better than all of Saban's Bama teams except last year's. He still stumbled into it since he doesn't have the ability to replicate a season even close to that. He lucked into an elite OC masquerading as a position coach (deserves the most credit for this though) and a randomly amazing transfer QB and was able to hang onto a DC that probably should've been the head coach instead. The season itself wasn't a fluke but I don't think Orgeron's presence was necessary. You give Mack or some other mediocre CEO coach those assistants and that team and they probably still win a title. The rest of his roster was guaranteed by their stranglehold on their instate recruiting base that gives them automatically around 15 elite prospects every year. I think they immediately become much more dangerous with Kiffin or one of the other names floated around that will actually bring competence to the table on top of their inherent advantages. Those coaches might not hand the keys over to Sean Payton or whoever's newest intern and reap the benefits on the off-chance he's brilliant, but on the flipside they will not be reliant on these kinds of miracles.

I'm hoping Miami will hire Cristobal. His annoying OL reputation and Oregon's lack of a local recruiting base are a pain in the ass. He'll have enough guys in his backyard to leave us alone.  Of course, Oregon would turn around and hire Traylor because that's the type of shit that usually happens.

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5 minutes ago, Hornlover said:

If you were to rank the football programs in current importance from 1-130 whatever, you'd have something like

 

1-9: The Blue Bloods (Bama, Texas, Oklahoma, Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State, USC, Penn State, Florida )

10-16: Occassional national title winners (Clemson, LSU, Tenn, Florida State, Miami, Auburn, Nebraska)

16-22: Big programs (UCLA, A&M, Georgia, Wisconsin, Mich State, Arkansas, etc.)

23-50: Occasional Conference Winners (Too many to list)

51-130: Shit team (Illinois, others)

 

Miami, while a smaller private school, is clearly a top 20 program. Its about on the same level as LSU.

Illinois is a never-was, and will never be better than the 7th or 8th most important program in the Big Ten.

 

 

So you think Nebraska is a top 16 job?  I'm unsure what these ratings mean.

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If you were to rank the football programs in current importance from 1-130 whatever, you'd have something like

 

1-9: The Blue Bloods (Bama, Texas, Oklahoma, Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State, USC, Penn State, Florida )

10-16: Occassional national title winners (Clemson, LSU, Tenn, Florida State, Miami, Auburn, Nebraska)

16-22: Big programs (UCLA, A&M, Georgia, Wisconsin, Mich State, Arkansas, etc.)

23-50: Occasional Conference Winners (Too many to list)

51-130: Shit team (Illinois, others)

 

Miami, while a smaller private school, is clearly a top 20 program. Its about on the same level as LSU.

Illinois is a never-was, and will never be better than the 7th or 8th most important program in the Big Ten.

 

 

Comparing LSU to Miami is fucking stupid. Miami  is a small private school in a state filled with colleges who have competed for and won National titles fairly recently. All more recently than Miami. 
 

the other is the flagship school in a state full of football talent with no competition and no real laws or rules for operation. I don’t think it is “clearly” a top 20 program right now. Potential? Absolutely. But it’s also directly dependent on what rivals are doing.   
 

nebraska might be a dead program. Your whole list is full of inaccurate and outdated concepts of college football programs. But yes, take exception with my concept of Illinois. It’s a name school in a big state that currently and recently hasn’t had any success and might be looking for a coach. 

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Comparing LSU to Miami is fucking stupid. lol be is a small private school in a state filled with colleges who have competed for and won. At up all titles fairly recently. 
 

the other is the flagship school in a state full of football talent with no competition and no real laws or rules for operation. I don’t think it is “clearly” a top 20 program right now. Potential? Absolutely. But it’s also directly dependent on what rivals are doing.   
 

nebraska might be a dead program. Your whole list is full of inaccurate and outdated concepts of college football programs. But yes, take exception Sith my concept of Illinois. It’s a name school in a big state that currently and recently hasn’t had any success and might be looking for a coach. 

Yeah, I considered putting Nebraska into the dead pile. Nebraska is still a better job than Illi-fucking-nois. 

Miami still is a top destination, regardless of the significant differences with the demographics as compared to LSU.

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