Antonio Brown's mysterious foot injury is severe frostbite

[Funk Doctor Spock 11,923]

1 hour ago, BearSchlong said:

Holy shit, he recorded and posted a private phone call with his head coach?

 

This dude is nuttier than my ex wife.

 

 

We must have married he same chick at one time 

[Dbeasy 14,969]

That’s a pretty stale depiction of Dallas. It cut ties with Hardy long ago and got rid of nutjob Dez. Zeke is a totally different case. He’s a knucklehead. Dez, and AB more so, have serious mental and emotional problems (as does Randy Gregory). Hardy was a criminal and I seriously doubt they’d sign someone like that, or AB, now. 

Ha. So in a few years they are totally different. Jlaw.gif. Bookmark this post for later reference.

[Funk Doctor Spock 11,923]

32 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

That’s a pretty stale depiction of Dallas. It cut ties with Hardy long ago and got rid of nutjob Dez. Zeke is a totally different case. He’s a knucklehead. Dez, and AB more so, have serious mental and emotional problems (as does Randy Gregory). Hardy was a criminal and I seriously doubt they’d sign someone like that, or AB, now. 

Jerry would sign AB no matter the case. 

[totallynotabuttpirate 5,342]

AB is not going to Dallas because he'll never get the targets that he wants. He'll go somewhere that promises him 10+ targets a game. 

[Bigbend1812 12,889]

[Funk Doctor Spock 11,923]

Just now, Dr. Beeper said:

He’d have a hell of a time paying Dak and Amari, then. Cowboys don’t need AB. They have a very talented roster including WRs - most talented I remember since ‘96 or ‘07. They don’t need him and won’t be able to afford him. And his personality could blow up a unified group. 

Now, I fully believe Cowboys would’ve done this deal a year ago, pre-Amari. 

I agree about the cap, but he would absolutely make room for AB in some capacity. AB, as much as a drama queen he is, is a great player. Jerry has tunnel vision and only sees talent. 

 

Do I think it will happen? No. Would it surprise me? Not at all. I think he ends up probably on my Bucs or some shit because we suck and need all the help we can get. 

[Deguello 54]

Jones may see talent, but he seems have a helluva time aligning it in any coherent way since Johnson’s rosters faded away. 

[C-Man 27,058]

Guess I’m an idiot, but I didn’t know guarantees weren’t guaranteed. Are they only in the event of injury? Teams can just cut players or remove their guarantees without having to pay them?

They can't cut you because you suck and not pay you. But most contracts have language about conduct detrimental, missing team activities, accumulation of fines/suspensions, etc. that void certain guarantees.

This is a timing issue though. He had to be on the roster at some point this season for the guarantee to kick in, right?

[Deguello 54]

Just now, Dr. Beeper said:

It’s aligned now. Problem is, coaching and QB are mediocre to above average. 

QB is part of “talent,” imo. Coaching, too, though I get that’s probably outside of the scope of this particular conversation. 

[Deguello 54]

1 minute ago, Dr. Beeper said:

Correct of course. I think both guys are serviceable and one of Jerry’s faults is loyalty, and he thinks they’re better than most any outsider. I take bigger issue with Garrett. QBs don’t grow on trees, but Garrett would be easily upgraded. 

Agree with all of that. 

[C-Man 27,058]

I don’t know but none of that matters. AB and Rosenhaus will hire the best counsel, and recoup some significant portion of that guarantee. I’ve never seen anything like this in sports. 

If it’s not cut-and-dried then you can bet your ass they’ll dig up the conduct portion of every NFL contract and use that as justification.

[C-Man 27,058]

There is one person responsible for this mess and his name is Antonio Brown. Period.

[Eastwood 4,394]

Guess I’m an idiot, but I didn’t know guarantees weren’t guaranteed. Are they only in the event of injury? Teams can just cut players or remove their guarantees without having to pay them?

There was a provision in his contract that stated that if he was suspended that he lost his guaranteed money, as well as giving the Raiders the right to release him if they so choose. Some of the talking heads yesterday didn't think that they wouldn't release him because AB's next move is to sue the Raiders and claim that the suspension was for some reason not allowed by the CBA or his contract. They'll settle out of court, I'm sure.

[Funk Doctor Spock 11,923]

I don't really understand the guaranteed money thing. I always assumed no matter what they got that amount, and everything else was earned via playing time, health, etc. 

[phdhorn 6,224]

Dickhole gonna dickhole...

[George 487]

Yeah I’m curious how the details around fines/suspensions and conduct detrimental can void the guarantees. Certainly seems like he committed all the acts we’re talking about. 

[TonyTexas 10,482]

I’d challenge you to find an apples to apples situation. $29MM voided before he plays a down. I don’t think it’s that cut and dried though. I do think there’s enough weird shit around it to where it’ll be challenged and litigated until the Raiders just want it to go away. They’re gonna pay AB a lot. 

Are you both a doctor and a lawyer? That’s impressive.

[Deguello 54]

3 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

I’d challenge you to find an apples to apples situation. $29MM voided before he plays a down. I don’t think it’s that cut and dried though. I do think there’s enough weird shit around it to where it’ll be challenged and litigated until the Raiders just want it to go away. They’re gonna pay AB a lot. 

I’d be surprised given his very public idiocy. 

[Nope 3,111]

45 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

AB is not going to Dallas because he'll never get the targets that he wants. He'll go somewhere that promises him 10+ targets a game. 

AB to Arizona 

Remember this?

 

 

[Bigbend1812 12,889]

They are gonna pay him less than a million.  Fuck off AB!  Thanks for wasting everyone’s time.  I was ready for them to cut his ass after the frost bite BS.  Fuck him.  He’s a whiny cunt. 

[runthebone 7,932]

Look, we all know who is going to sign a talented asshole like this:  the Raiders.

 

 

Right?

[Captain Obvious 516]

31 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

I’d challenge you to find an apples to apples situation. $29MM voided before he plays a down. I don’t think it’s that cut and dried though. I do think there’s enough weird shit around it to where it’ll be challenged and litigated until the Raiders just want it to go away. They’re gonna pay AB a lot. 

I'd challenge you to find someone who publicly pulled as much bullshit as AB and didn't get as much guaranteed money voided as possible.

Nobody had this much guaranteed money voided before playing a down because no one was this stupid.

[Bone3421 716]

I don't really understand the guaranteed money thing. I always assumed no matter what they got that amount, and everything else was earned via playing time, health, etc. 

Nfl contracts are not 1 page long. They have lots of provisions and legalese wording. Guarantees are guaranteed if you abide by the contract. When players retire you hear about if the team will get prorated bonus back.

When 4nette was suspended jags were thinking about voiding his guarantees.

Brown seems to be in serious breach of contract imo

 

[hookem48 4,631]

does he have to clear waivers?

[APMP 685]

does he have to clear waivers?

Nah, signable today, but can't play until next week

[hookem48 4,631]

Just now, APMP said:

2 minutes ago, hookem48 said:

does he have to clear waivers?

Nah, signable today, but can't play until next week

why no waivers?

[APMP 685]

why no waivers?

Waivers don't apply until regular season starts. Which it hadn't for the Raiders when he was cut.

[hookem48 4,631]

9 minutes ago, APMP said:

11 minutes ago, hookem48 said:

why no waivers?

Waivers don't apply until regular season starts. Which it hadn't for the Raiders when he was cut.

thanks

[BigDHornfan 6,541]

Told you...

 

https://www.espn.com/espn/now/_/nowId/21-41075687-4?appsrc=sc&RuleNumber

 

 

Antonio Brown has agreed to terms with the Patriots, per source.

 

 

Adam Schefter, ESPN Senior Writer

[Atticus 3,922]

And... he’s a Patriot.

Well done shithead


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[RockyMountainHighHorn 890]

I bet he shuts up... just a hunch. 

[Michael Knight 12,898]

of course its the Patriots

[cabowabo 4,453]

Fuck the Patriots and their trash dick owner. 

[Radical Larry 28,529]

Stevie Wonder saw that coming.

[oh_snap 694]

AB and Gordon. Wow, good for the Pats. 

[youdunnf'dup 2,147]

1 year 15mil. You could see this coming a mile away. 

Edited September 7, 2019 by youdunnf'dup

[Get ln My Van 927]

Classic

[Wally Pryor 5,244]

Fuck, we need this?  I trust Belichick and Tom to do the right thing, so will defer to them.  This cancer will have the fucking shortest of all leashes.

Now we've got that fuckstick Bennett and this piece of shit on the team.  Not sure how long I'll be able to hold my nose. 

[taybo20 2,815]

Fuck the patriots

[aggie08 21,434]

Well, fuck me. I am idiot.

[TonyTexas 10,482]

$9mm signing bonus. Way more than I thought he’d get.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12,301]

1 minute ago, aggie08 said:

Well, fuck me. I am idiot.

Username checks out.

[Loch Ness Monster 3,533]

Fuck the Patriots

[Jive Turkey 12,568]

Let’s make our guesses as to how this ends. 

I say AB does not finish the season with the Patriots. 

[youdunnf'dup 2,147]

He didn’t want to be there, gave up $30 mil to get out, and gets a 1 year 15 mil deal with the fucking patriots. This is absolutely going to work out, and it’s frustrating thinking about it 

[Wally Pryor 5,244]

He'll be a model citizen by next Wednesday.   

[PittsburghTiger 6,137]

Steelers open at NE tomorrow night.  But AB can’t yet play

[Zavala 1,384]

1 minute ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Fuck the Patriots

Yep. The league is a joke.

[MonkeyDoughnut 10,145]

Yes! Finally a way to destroy the Patriots from the inside

[Funk Doctor Spock 11,923]

Patriots? I'm shocked.