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Neonmoon
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They’re already back, they’re just on a delayed blitz 

texifornia
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And may this thread be mercifully short

BabaYaga
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Time for drastic measures

lulz

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7 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

He literally said he doesn't see him starting at QB and he's fine with him learning a new position. How is that not writing him off as QB, exactly?

But you do make a good point. I should have a drink. Later Surly. 

That's kind of the whole fucking point. Given our RB room, it make sense to move him there this year and burn his redshirt, but it's not a positive that we're doing so and taking away a whole season of practice reps at QB for a guy who really needs the reps to develop. 

Herman and Beck can develop dual threat QBs. The last twenty years are irrelevant because we had different coaches. 

If Whittington, Young and Johnson get healthy this season, maybe RoJo can move back to QB despite the burned redshirt, and then redshirt next year... that would be a decision for him and the coaches.

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LTtxfan

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Freakin RB MASH unit...

  • Whittington -- sports hernia/groin (4-6 wks?)
  • Young --  high ankle sprain (4-6 wks?)
  • Kirk J. -- clavicle/shoulder (6+wks??)
  • Derrian -- suffered stroke  (out minimum a yr)
  • Jarrett Smith -- shoulder injury (out how long?)
  • Jaren Watkins -- EMS from practice  (out -- no info?)

Ingram had a bone bruise in knee area too...

 

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36 minutes ago, lulz said:

RoJo could develop into a starting QB. If Ehlinger and Casey Thompson return next year, he can redshirt then and learn the QB position more - the RB depth will be much better next year. 

Sam isn't leaving early, man. As much as he's loved, he's not even close to being an NFL qb. 

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16 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Freakin RB MASH unit...

  • Whittington -- sports hernia/groin (4-6 wks?)
  • Young --  high ankle sprain (4-6 wks?)
  • Kirk J. -- clavicle/shoulder (6+wks??)
  • Derrian -- suffered stroke  (out minimum a yr)
  • Jarrett Smith -- shoulder injury (out how long?)
  • Jaren Watkins -- EMS from practice  (out -- no info?)

Ingram had a bone bruise in knee area too...

 

Time to start scouting the IM Fields...

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1 hour ago, TexArcher said:

The blueprint for LSU shouldn't involve 48 runs and it damn sure shouldn't involve 21 runs by Sam.

This isn't a bowl game with 8 months off afterward.

 

52 minutes ago, texasstrong12 said:

17 runs vs USC, 19 vs OU in the regular season and 15 in the Big 12 championship game, 15 vs Tech, and so on. 

It wasn't just a "bowl game" blueprint. Ehlinger is one of our best weapons on offense and they used him as such in close/big games. 

Of course it wasn't just a bowl game blueprint, but you proved my point in showing that he got more carries against UGA than in all of those other big games.  Because it does matter that the next game is in a week, not in eight months.

And we need to be running Sam less, not more, or he will continue to get knocked out of multiple games per year.

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1 hour ago, satyanash said:

Minor aside: Google "William Meyers", and the first hit you'll get is a $3.34 million medical malpractice suit against him for a botched groin surgery on a soccer player O_O

https://www.myphillylawyer.com/2014/07/18/3-34-million-med-mal-verdict-awarded-to-former-athlete/

He now holds shop at the Vincera Institute (Hahnemann Hospital, where Meyers practiced at the time, just closed down a couple of months ago). He performs a lot of core muscle surgeries for NFL players.

 

A soccer player and a malpractice lawyer sounds like a match made in frivolous bullshit hell 

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5 minutes ago, CastHorn said:

I’m not going to lie, I’m feeling like a bitch right now. This has the potential to derail a whole season. Someone tell me it’s going to be alright. I’ll take snaps if the team would adopt me.

Hopefully Young and Kirk Johnson will be back by the OU game, and RoJo has looked good... As long as Ingram and Sam stay healthy and don't get injured due to overuse the next few games, this shouldn't derail the season. And J Whit should be back by mid season too.

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1 hour ago, Magus Ossis said:

Ingram looked good last week. RoJo looked good for an RB2. We have Gbenda and Smith in case of emergency. This is better quality depth than last year when we had Watson, smoke, mirrors, and hope.

We need to get through 3 more games likely before we get Johnson? That’s 4 weeks and he hurt his shoulder early in August, right? 

That is before he gets hurt again. 

On the bright side, think how stacked our RB room will be in second half of October. 

 

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5 hours ago, Stunns38 said:

 


And that one scholly RB isn’t 100% either. Were there any JUCO and transfer RBs at the caliber of Watson this year? Honestly, it’s hard for us to recruit many grad transfers due to enrollment requirements.

However this is another lesson learned by this staff that you can never have too many weapons.

 

We tried to recruit Stevenson from a JUCO but were late and ou got him. Drayton came from ahead to finish 2nd for Cain last year, D. Brown was bad luck for us, no one thought JWitt was recruited as a RB until he showed up in the spring. Most of us wanted to see greater urgency in the Portal/JUCO in late spring. 

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3 minutes ago, victory88 said:

Duv is built like a RB.  Might need to give him carries out of the backfield.  Him or Jake smith.  No point in making a LB in Gbenda take snaps.  Smith is fucking good out of the backfield and played lot of RB in high school.

Yancy did not have Jake this past spring.  Really important to be careful how many hits Jake takes this season to protect his body longterm...

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Two thoughts:

1) There were zero legitimate options in the transfer portal besides Feaster.  We'd have been better off talking Kyle Porter into staying.  

2) We need to run Ingram into the ground against LSU if that is what it takes.  Motion Smith/Duvernay into the backfield or run some jet sweeps to eat up 5-6 carries and give Roschon 5-8.  We can treat Rice like a bye week, manufacture carries at RB, and give Ingram another week to rest up for Okie State (Young may also be back for this).  Then we get to the bye.  Obviously if Ingram turns an ankle or something we're screwed.

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4 minutes ago, Machinator said:

Yes, let's run our one good running back into the ground in an early season nonconference matchup, that'll be a great look for the program!

Okay, so what do you propose?  Put him in a glass case because he might get hurt?  He can handle 20 carries and, while not ideal, I think we can limp into the bye week in okay shape.  But Ingram is going to have bear the brunt of things.  It is what it is.

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4 minutes ago, Machinator said:

Yes, let's run our one good running back into the ground in an early season nonconference matchup, that'll be a great look for the program!

I actually agree with him.  You give Ingram every carry if the game is close and sub Duv and RoJo for 3-5 carries each.  I find it funny how posters were puffing their chests out when I suggested we sit Ingram and Whittington out of meaningless fall scrimmages yet people now want to limit his carries in potentially our biggest game of the year.  

Regardless this whole situation is fucked.  Need to get through this game and then we can fucking win against Rice with me starting at tailback.  Ingram can have 2 weeks to rest.

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6 minutes ago, Keef said:

Okay, so what do you propose?  Put him in a glass case because he might get hurt?  He can handle 20 carries and, while not ideal, I think we can limp into the bye week in okay shape.  But Ingram is going to have bear the brunt of things.  It is what it is.

If you're suggesting 20-22 carries plus 5-7 touches in the air, I'm in agreement. Anything more than that and it gets tricky.

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Anyone balking at Ingram getting 20-25 carries is balking at him getting 5-10 extra touches in one game. A few extra touches in week 2, followed by a cupcake and a bye, are not going to derail his season. You can't "run him into the ground" for the year in week 2.

Yes there's marginally increased injury risk with additional touches, but 1.) He's got injury issues anyway and that risk exists every snap; 2.) The risk of getting injured on touch 22 is not any different than that of touch 15; 3.) What's the the legit alternative?

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Getting some guys back by Okie State is much more urgent than worrying about the OU game.  OSU is very solid, much more of a Big 12 contender than any of ISU, BU or TCU.  We cannot get beat by mullet again.

  Gbenda is actually a great choice for interim 3rd string.  Hardnosed athletic dude that can run fast, has good size for RB and loves contact.  He played both RB and wildcat QB in high school and Jake is much more useful in the game plan to beat LSU as a slot receiver/return specialist.

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23 minutes ago, Keef said:

Okay, so what do you propose?  Put him in a glass case because he might get hurt?  He can handle 20 carries and, while not ideal, I think we can limp into the bye week in okay shape.  But Ingram is going to have bear the brunt of things.  It is what it is.

how is 20 carries "running him into the ground"? that just seems like a busy day at the office for a RB1.

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4 minutes ago, squeegeedegg said:

Getting some guys back by Okie State is much more urgent than worrying about the OU game.  OSU is very solid, much more of a Big 12 contender than any of ISU, BU or TCU.  We cannot get beat by mullet again.  Gbenda is actually a great choice for interim 3rd string.  Hardnosed athletic dude that can run fast, has good size for RB and loves contact.  He played both RB and wildcat QB in high school and Jake is much more useful in the game plan to beat LSU as a slot receiver/return specialist.

So Surly question...

Now that Gbenda is 3rd string RB, you gotta take him off special teams right?? 

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3 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Yancy did not have Jake this past spring.  Really important to be careful how many hits Jake takes this season to protect his body longterm...

oh, yancy didn’t have him.  he wasn’t with yancy, in the spring.  shit, he was probably smokin two packs a day and eating twinkies on the couch all spring then, right?  

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Whittington probably gone for the season and a redshirt.  No need to risk his long term availability by rushing him back from surgery.

Counterpoint: If he is healthy enough to play, we might want him to do that, because we have one RB right now. Hopefully we still have one in 4-6 weeks.
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1 hour ago, Red Five said:


Counterpoint: If he is healthy enough to play, we might want him to do that, because we have one RB right now. Hopefully we still have one in 4-6 weeks.

Herman already said if we expect a guy is good and, the staff knows we won't have him for all four years -- expect them to play early and often. Jalen Green was mentioned in a similar manner at this point last year. Expect to see more of Jake Smith and Sweat as 4 year guys. 

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1 minute ago, longhornmatt said:

If we have another injury, Duvernay, Smith and BJ Foster (played some RB in high school) would seem like the best options to move over to RB rather than actually playing Gbenda there in a significant role.  

Gbenda is in there for a reason, lead Sam to a TD. 

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Sounds like Zach Shackelford's foot injury still lingers.

Texas O-Line passes lone test prior to likely slugfest with LSU

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The decision to give Braun the start, Herman said, was due to how the line would function if the coaches had a chance relatively early in the night to get Shackelford off of the field to rest a foot sprain that had been sore in the days leading up to the game.

“Rather than throw Parker in there cold when we get Shack out, it would be better to start him, let him get in a little rhythm and when we get Shack out, put Denzel (Okafor) in having had that experience in this offense,” Herman said.

TFB - Open Post | Tuesday, September 3rd

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Injury Update | Post LaTech Game, RB Depth
– CJ Vogel

To the naked eye, it appeared Texas had escaped Louisiana Tech without any significant injuries. Well, that may not have been the case according to Head Coach Tom Herman in his Monday conference call.

— RB Jordan Whittington will undergo surgery on a sports hernia and will miss six weeks. Whittington has had issues with the injury since aggravating it in HS.

— WR Collin Johnson is day to day.

— C Zach Shackelford is uncertain.

— TE Jared Wiley is doubtful.

— RB Kirk Johnson is out 6 weeks.

— RB Daniel Young is out.

At the moment, the Longhorn depth chart at RB is razor thin. To combat the lack of depth, freshman LB David Gbenda will be moved over to the tailback position for the upcoming week.

The RB spot currently consists of Keaontay Ingram, Roschon Johnson and David Gbenda.

 

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