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I've heard that it's dropping on August 31st just like last year.  I really liked this show and am very much looking forward to season 2.  It helps that I didn't read the books so don't have any preconceived notions of what people should be like.

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They had a great setup - going after the cartels.  Clear and Present Danger laid out the gameplay, and since Clear and Present Danger was first released, we discovered the cartels are 10 times more brutal and well-organized than originally thought.

But no, Venezuela is gonna nuke us all LOL.

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TrashMaster G

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Oh for fuck's sake.  A nuclear-armed Venezuela.  LOL.

Well, it's about eleventy-billion times more believable than North Korea invading the US (Red Dawn remake).

9 minutes ago, Native Horn said:

This right here.  Plus, you can tell Amazon laid out mega-bucks in production (if not on the actual actors).

Yeah, it's a well-produced show that is fun escapism.   The characters are Clancy's characters in name, and generally in personality, with different backstories and relationships.

If you don't take it too seriously, you can really enjoy it.

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2 hours ago, TrashMaster G said:

Well, it's about eleventy-billion times more believable than North Korea invading the US (Red Dawn remake).

Yeah, it's a well-produced show that is fun escapism.   The characters are Clancy's characters in name, and generally in personality, with different backstories and relationships.

If you don't take it too seriously, you can really enjoy it.

Oh I’ll watch it, I’m a whore for Clancy-related stuff since the Red October days.   But, with the big budget Amazon is giving them, you have to face the fact that adversaries are probably going to be countries without much Amazon business   

But it’s far more grounded had they gone the cartel route.   

And besides, how do you do a season 3, when season 2 was a nuclear-armed Venezuela?  North Korea building a moon base?  

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2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Oh I’ll watch it, I’m a whore for Clancy-related stuff since the Red October days.   But, with the big budget Amazon is giving them, you have to face the fact that adversaries are probably going to be countries without much Amazon business   

But it’s far more grounded had they gone the cartel route.   

And besides, how do you do a season 3, when season 2 was a nuclear-armed Venezuela?  North Korea building a moon base?  

SJWs march on Capitol Hill?

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6 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

SJWs march on Capitol Hill?

That requires them getting outside, in the sunlight.

It is fun, trying to guess who the next season baddies will be.  Need to get a map and see what countries have very little Amazon presence.  Perhaps they'll do a bunch of fake countries or something.   

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30 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

That requires them getting outside, in the sunlight.

It is fun, trying to guess who the next season baddies will be.  Need to get a map and see what countries have very little Amazon presence.  Perhaps they'll do a bunch of fake countries or something.   

central african idi amin sort of character

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Oh I’ll watch it, I’m a whore for Clancy-related stuff since the Red October days.   But, with the big budget Amazon is giving them, you have to face the fact that adversaries are probably going to be countries without much Amazon business   

But it’s far more grounded had they gone the cartel route.   

And besides, how do you do a season 3, when season 2 was a nuclear-armed Venezuela?  North Korea building a moon base?  

. . . because Russia conveying nuclear weapons to a socialist Latin American country is vastly less plausible than Japan undertaking a war against the United States by invading the Northern Marianas.  

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44 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

. . . because Russia conveying nuclear weapons to a socialist Latin American country is vastly less plausible than Japan undertaking a war against the United States by invading the Northern Marianas.  

My whoredom had started to abate by the time a Japanese airliner pilot took out the US government and made Jack the President.   I really didn’t follow anything after that, other than a few Rainbow Six novels.

But I know there was a Russia-China war in the mix after, and that’s a little too much to film.   Some of the mid-later 90s stuff felt like he was bored and just drawing plot lines out of a hat   

Speaking of Rainbow Six, if they had done season 2 around Clear and Present Danger, they could have easily spun off a Rainbow Six Series.  

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9 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

. . . because Russia conveying nuclear weapons to a socialist Latin American country is vastly less plausible than Japan undertaking a war against the United States by invading the Northern Marianas.  

You lost me about midway through that.

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I can’t recall my exact complaints about the first season except that the plot was predicated on everyone being very stupid and this version of Jack Ryan is the worst goddamn Marine I’ve ever seen and a total embarrassment to The Corps.  Have they fixed this?

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Just finished. Good, not great. A lot of Clear and Present Danger overlap, which isn't a bad thing. There were some plot holes you could fly a Blackhawk through, but that's Hollywood. 

Bottom line, I enjoyed it and look forward to S3.

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finished it myself just now.  agree on the clear and present danger overlap, just 1 country over. 

no spoilers at all, not fair to post anything less than a day after release. 

agree that there were several deus ex machina moments that were completely too far fetched,  was about to hammer them for doing it twice in one episode until a legit, "wow, the writers really did that to him" moment helped at least close the issue. 

 

 

2 legit lols at names though,  Jeff S and Tim H...

 

this spoiler is related to a sub-plot, reading it shouldnt even cause an issue, but spoiler just because

 

what the honest fuck was the plot of the secret satellite supposed to help-  yes it was in orbit over Venezuela, and yes it helped discover mining information, but how in the fuck did it get turned off when no one had the codes yet- other than the band of Matisse's operatives who handnt given the info to anyone yet?

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4 hours ago, RPM said:

Just finished. Good, not great. A lot of Clear and Present Danger overlap, which isn't a bad thing. There were some plot holes you could fly a Blackhawk through, but that's Hollywood a typical Tom Clancy novel.

Fixed.  Lest we forget, things got really fucking weird/far-fetched in a lot of his later novels, where he wrote himself into corners, or where he was just pumping out Jack Ryan fanfic.

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