Jim Harbaugh NO LONGER coaches at Michigan

[bad_teammate 13479]

19 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

These pics are of him on the Michigan sideline. How’s he elsewhere scouting other teams live, and on the sidelines at the same time?

If it's an elaborate scheme involving technology, it's because he's having people film the opponent sidelines during games and then analyzing that film and relaying it on the sideline during gameday.

Edited October 20, 2023 by bad_teammate

[Pam Cummings 9823]

Yeah i know hes the guy named as the main focus, but i dont think "elaborate scheme" means theres only one guy involved.

[Wilcox Cummingtonite 3543]

Michigan is a cesspool?

The fact that they are scrubbing that dude's social media is basically an admission of guilt in the public eye. 

Edited October 20, 2023 by Wilcox Cummingtonite

[MonkeyDoughnut 10762]

45 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

These pics are of him on the Michigan sideline. How’s he elsewhere scouting other teams live, and on the sidelines at the same time?

Even there he doesn't seem to fit the look/posture of an analyst.

[Tex Long 4616]

2 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Even there he doesn't seem to fit the look/posture of an analyst.

You've spelt "analist" wrong.

[BabaYaga 15532]

There's a reason every team has elaborate schemes and diversions with hand signals and billboards when sending in plays - it's because anyone on the other team with a pulse would read, interpret, and use stolen signals to gain an advantage.

If he's studying plays called, do a better job of disguising your calls.  Fuck MI, their team, coaches, and fans, but I'm not seeing a grand conspiracy here?  What am I missing?

[MonkeyDoughnut 10762]

13 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

There's a reason every team has elaborate schemes and diversions with hand signals and billboards when sending in plays - it's because anyone on the other team with a pulse would read, interpret, and use stolen signals to gain an advantage.

If he's studying plays called, do a better job of disguising your calls.  Fuck MI, their team, coaches, and fans, but I'm not seeing a grand conspiracy here?  What am I missing?

Missing what they don't know yet... It would not take much at all to setup an AI system with a camera pointed at the other teams signalers that can real-time determine/feed him the calls based on prior offsite recordings.

[Parliament 14559]

Without looking it up, I'm gonna say filming the opposing sideline is against the rules.

[Tex Long 4616]

1 minute ago, Parliament said:

Without looking it up, I'm gonna say filming the opposing sideline is against the rules.

Only if your film uses technology such as electrons.

[bad_teammate 13479]

My Quantum Dark Matter Signal Decipherer follows all NCAA rules and can be YOURS for the low low price of $35M (up front, $3M/mth maintenance fee required).

[Deej 77671]

33 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

You've spelt "analist" wrong.

 

[Pam Cummings 9823]

18 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Missing what they don't know yet... It would not take much at all to setup an AI system with a camera pointed at the other teams signalers that can real-time determine/feed him the calls based on prior offsite recordings.

Apparently the "rule" that Mich violated was part of the NCAA handbook, not whatever "official rules of football" handbook. I dunno. I kinda think this ends up being nothing.

Edited October 20, 2023 by Pam Cummings

[BabaYaga 15532]

16 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Apparently the "rule" that Mich violated was part of the NCAA handbook, not whatever "official rules of football" handbook. I dunno. I kinda think this ends up being nothing.

I'm sure the NCAA will drop the hammer

[tbone_ 14410]

Do schools even have to listen to the NCAA anymore?

[Juicy 729]

58 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

What am I missing?

Michigan generates clicks, and views.... Also since harbaugh refused to apologize the NCAA has a hard on for him. They were probably so stoked to see this come across their desks. 

[Juicy 729]

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The staffer recruited a bunch of non-Michigan affiliated 3rd parties to attend games and record sidelines of future Michigan opponents. That's the so-called "vast network." Wait until the story comes out of how he recruited the "scouts." It's Bud Fox level hustle that would make Gordon Gekko smile.

Obviously he'll lose his analyst gig at Michigan and probably have a show-cause if he ever wants to get near a college AD again but he's 100% going to land a plum job doing corporate espionage work eventually.

The Michigan Difference.

From MGOBLOG. Enough credence behind it that they put it on the front page. 

[Pam Cummings 9823]

11 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

I'm sure the NCAA will drop the hammer

Yeah....ill be waiting with baited breath.

[Ten Bears 2499]

*bated

[Tex Long 4616]

4 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Yeah....ill be waiting with baited breath.

Like a cat with a mouthful of cheese?

[Pam Cummings 9823]

Dammit. I did fuck that up.

[Deej 77671]

I'm thinking Michigan leaked this themselves to distract from some horrific sex scandal involving the football program. 

It is the B1G.

[Parliament 14559]

Another horrific sex scandal?  Because they've already had one.

[locodos 5583]

6 minutes ago, Parliament said:

Another horrific sex scandal?  Because they've already had one.

[Gaffords 774]

6 hours ago, Juicy said:

no they aren't. Literally everyone wants a lifetime contract at this point. 

Not all.  But there is already a group who are starting to question.  FSU was the same,  hell we were the same with Mack.....   

Granted, when winning, the vast majority don't question shit, but when you can find the fee posts or responses to posts on social media in the middle of the streak they have been on as of late, there tends to be a lot more who are also getting uneasy about what is going on for real....

I moved from Michigan a few years ago, but still have friends and family there.  From what I hear, this newest thing has put a little rift between the boosters.  There are a few who believe that if this turns out to be more than just a simple investigation, Harbaugh is headed back to the NFL and the University will wish him the best... 

Harbaugh is a good coach. He does what he can to gain every advantage... ... And there is a lot of Michigan people who think he's guilty of this.  Not everyone pulls a Baylor with their fingers in their ears until there's no more denying, much less an aggy, who refuses to see anything no matter what until the corch hasn't led them to their "natty" after 5 years. 

 He's done something to piss off  the NCAA.  They haven't done this much "investing"  since who knows when.

 

 

[bad_teammate 13479]

There is also the option that Harbaugh is just cheating more or more openly than others and it isn't a mysterious conspiracy against him. Controversial take, I know, but that might just be happening.

[Royale with cheese 1491]

[Juicy 729]

I don't disagree there. Jimmy really seems like he doesn't give a fuck anymore, and after OkieST cooperated with the NCAA/FBI thing and none of the other schools did, and they were the only ones to get punished who fucking cares about the NCAA. 

The networks run college football now. 

[Saint Tacky 1647]

Edited October 20, 2023 by Saint Tacky
there was no reason for that too be that large - That's what she said.

[Juicy 729]

and captain stallion suspended. 

[Deej 77671]

1 hour ago, Juicy said:

I don't disagree there. Jimmy really seems like he doesn't give a fuck anymore, and after OkieST cooperated with the NCAA/FBI thing and none of the other schools did, and they were the only ones to get punished who fucking cares about the NCAA. 

The networks run college football now. 

No sleepovers with recruits for a year. 

[Juicy 729]

9 minutes ago, Deej said:

No sleepovers with recruits for a year. 

Oh man. If you take away climbing trees and playing shirts and skins along with it Jimmy may as well just hang em up. All that for a headcase kicker too. 

In other news. Michigan is finally getting a new locker room. 

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cyl_1k_xwmc/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D

Edited October 20, 2023 by Juicy

[sith_horn 2486]

2 hours ago, locodos said:

                                     

[Paul Wesley 3313]

3 hours ago, Pam Cummings said:

I dunno. I kinda think this ends up being nothing.

I don't know either, but I know that the scandals that become sticky and permanent are the ones that line up with already-held grievances.  And it seems like a lot of people already don't like Harbaugh's demeanor.  

On a side note here:  if I were a coach getting paid tens of millions of dollars to coach for a school whose brand is worth hundreds of millions of dollars, I'd be 100% aware that there's an information war happening as part of the game -- programs are trying to get a competitive edge.  They had better act accordingly (e.g. don't use hand signals like you're at a division III school in the 1970's).

Shit, Ed Biles was doing this as the Oilers' defensive coordinator in 1979.  

https://vault.si.com/vault/1980/01/07/the-stolen-signals-caper

Edited October 20, 2023 by Paul Wesley

[Tex Pete 21394]

11 hours ago, cmontexas said:

Rece Davis was on the radio a couple days after RRS and swore that on Ewers first pick that it looked like OU started moving in that direction before the ball was even snapped and he surmised that they had picked up one of our signs

Yep. I absolutely believe Venables is still up to it. Really could explain some of the lopsided scores between us over the years.

Sooners are cheating trash anyway.

[Tex Long 4616]

12 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Yep. I absolutely believe Venables is still up to it. Really could explain some of the lopsided scores between us over the years.

Sooners are cheating trash anyway.

Several (many?) coaching against Clemson when he was DC swore they were victimized.

You'd think that highly paid tacticians would plan around that and signal accordingly, but...

 

EDIT: I suspect they may have had intel on play script, as well.

 

Edited October 20, 2023 by Tex Long

[Paul Wesley 3313]

6 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Yep. I absolutely believe Venables is still up to it. Really could explain some of the lopsided scores between us over the years.

Sooners are cheating trash anyway.

Babers said on his podcast that he (himself) knew exactly what the play was going to be based on Texas' personnel and alignment - we had run the same routes from the same formation vs Bama (and maybe others).  He agrees that the OU defense acted like they knew the play. 

I would bet the house that most/all of our opponents are trying to steal signs... but that particular play might just be opposing players who watch film + a failure in self-scouting.  

[Tex Pete 21394]

3 minutes ago, Paul Wesley said:

I would bet the house that most/all of our opponents are trying to steal signs... but that particular play might just be opposing players who watch film + a failure in self-scouting.  

I am just saying that with the prior allegations against Venables and what we watched a couple of weeks ago, it all makes sense. I didn't really think about it when Venables was at Clemson. They had a talent advantage and mostly beat up on shitty teams 3/4 of each year. It would certainly mesh with the way they shut down our offenses when Mack was here, to include 12-0 and what they did to Vince in 2004.

[Tex Long 4616]

1 minute ago, Tex Pete said:

I am just saying that with the prior allegations against Venables and what we watched a couple of weeks ago, it all makes sense. I didn't really think about it when Venables was at Clemson. They had a talent advantage and mostly beat up on shitty teams 3/4 of each year. It would certainly mesh with the way they shut down our offenses when Mack was here, to include 12-0 and what they did to Vince in 2004.

Which is true of us, too. And several others.

[Leanderman 2353]

After more information is obtained about Big Blue, I am sure the NCAA will drop the hammer on the University of Vermont or such

[Tex Long 4616]

3 minutes ago, Leanderman said:

After more information is obtained about Big Blue, I am sure the NCAA will drop the hammer on the University of Vermont or such

North-Central Meatchicken more likely.

[JBJ 3780]

I pretty sure that's why we had Play #8 drawn up for Kirby.

[Royale with cheese 1491]

I wonder if today's rules would cover that time in 1972 when that sooner cocksucker, Larry Lacewell--I'm sorry, I misspoke. I shouldn't have called him a cocksucker; I should have called him that rotten-ass, syphilis-infected  cocksucker, Larry Lacewell--sent that other rotten-ass, syphilis-infected  cocksucker, Lonnie Williams, to pose as a painter working inside Memorial Stadium and spy on Longhorn practices?  Makes Venables' modern-day shenanigans look like child's play by comparison.  Never forget.

[z009 65]

I thought only the SEC had scandals, according to Big Ten fans. What's worse about the Big Ten is that they cheat and still get embarrassed when it matters most, which is the playoffs. The SEC has at least been hauling in natties. 

[ousux 5635]

I wonder if today's rules would cover that time in 1972 when that sooner cocksucker, Larry Lacewell--I'm sorry, I misspoke. I shouldn't have called him a cocksucker; I should have called him that rotten-ass, syphilis-infected  cocksucker, Larry Lacewell--sent that other rotten-ass, syphilis-infected  cocksucker, Lonnie Williams, to pose as a painter working inside Memorial Stadium and spy on Longhorn practices?  Makes Venables' modern-day shenanigans look like child's play by comparison.  Never forget.

When referring to Sooners you need to be a bit more specific. What if there are two or more Larry Lacewells who are associated with that pit of suck above the Red River?

[sith_horn 2486]

9 minutes ago, ousux said:

1 hour ago, Royale with cheese said:

I wonder if today's rules would cover that time in 1972 when that sooner cocksucker, Larry Lacewell--I'm sorry, I misspoke. I shouldn't have called him a cocksucker; I should have called him that rotten-ass, syphilis-infected  cocksucker, Larry Lacewell--sent that other rotten-ass, syphilis-infected  cocksucker, Lonnie Williams, to pose as a painter working inside Memorial Stadium and spy on Longhorn practices?  Makes Venables' modern-day shenanigans look like child's play by comparison.  Never forget.

When referring to Sooners you need to be a bit more specific. What if there are two or more Larry Lacewells who are associated with that pit of suck above the Red River?

Not when it comes to cocksucking. With sooner it's implicit ...

                       

 

[jettrink 40]

7 hours ago, locodos said:

JFC!  I have never been that white.  That shitass needs some Texas sun!

[Parliament 14559]

Next Cowboys coach?  

[Steel Shank 9533]

JFC!  I have never been that white.  That shitass needs some Texas sun!

[Nueces River Rat 5739]

[Tex Long 4616]

16 hours ago, Royale with cheese said:

I wonder if today's rules would cover that time in 1972 when that sooner cocksucker, Larry Lacewell--I'm sorry, I misspoke. I shouldn't have called him a cocksucker; I should have called him that rotten-ass, syphilis-infected  cocksucker, Larry Lacewell--sent that other rotten-ass, syphilis-infected  cocksucker, Lonnie Williams, to pose as a painter working inside Memorial Stadium and spy on Longhorn practices?  Makes Venables' modern-day shenanigans look like child's play by comparison.  Never forget.

First, cocksucker or not, I recall Larry more as a Barry cuck, so maybe refer to him as a cocksucking cuckold. Maybe cucksucker?

Second, you're delusional if you think that newer versions of that sort of shit doesn't happen in the pure, modern, well-regulated NCAA football world. Technology FTMFW.