Dallas Cowboys 2019 Season Thread -- Aaaah Zeke Out?

[Hate 20247]

Not sure if it’s been discussed, but that drive died on first down when Adam threw the ball too low. He actually throws a good deep ball, but he isn’t very good at running throws.

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

 

34-9 run for the cowboys after this little fucker ran onto the field lol. If we go on a winning streak, I’m giving mr kitty some credit 

[Hate 20247]

You always have to give pussy the credit it deserves.

['stache 22131]

One of the announcers said it was a bad omen for Dallas. I wondered why he would pick Dallas, it’s their fucking stadium. It then all went to shit for NY. Use your damn head Booger.

[tokamak 6687]

'Boys schedule gets pretty rugged from here on out. Honestly 10-6 would be a pretty good outcome for this team, 9-7 wouldn't surprise me at all. Week 16 @PHI shaping up to be huge as always.

[Patrick Bateman 3966]

4 hours ago, Hate said:

You always have to give pussy the credit it deserves.

Pussy is undefeated....

 

[Dr Fear 1290]

I don't think it can be overstated what a massive upgrade Bennett is inside.

[Patrick Bateman 3966]

26 minutes ago, Dr Fear said:

I don't think it can be overstated what a massive upgrade Bennett is inside.

He was very active last night..... good and bad.  If he can clean up some of his pre-snap stupidity and remember not to compromise his rush integrity, he's going to be really nice for us.  He played way more than I thought he may last night.  Could see him getting 4-6 sacks the rest of the way.

[Viper 12219]

true, but on the other hand, fuck him.

[Patrick Bateman 3966]

The first one is a joke.  2nd one is questionable but I could understand it.

 

[Iceman 2978]

There were the Jordan rules...

in the NFL there are the Jerrah rules.  No other established BAMF OL is getting called like that...

[Braff Zacklin 13676]

Don't want to sound like Zavala but those are headscratchers.

I realize holding is a subjective call and one could argue it occurs on every play, but those calls seem beyond ticky tack.

[Trey3216 15452]

That first one is soooooooooo bad.  No wonder why they didn't show a replay

[LTbear 4213]

11 hours ago, youdunnf'dup said:

 

34-9 run for the cowboys after this little fucker ran onto the field lol. If we go on a winning streak, I’m giving mr kitty some credit 

Somebody get that cat and make him the Cowboys' official live animal mascot.

[Patrick Bateman 3966]

For those of you trying to figure out value on Dak's contract.  

 

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

5 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

For those of you trying to figure out value on Dak's contract.  

 

Yup. That’s the gamble we made and we’re losing. Both Goff and wentz have had down years. Dak is having his best year as a pro. 

[C-Man 27779]

1 hour ago, Dr Fear said:

I don't think it can be overstated what a massive upgrade Bennett is inside.

Giants' offensive line is garbage, though.

12 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

For those of you trying to figure out value on Dak's contract.  

 

Just because a couple of other teams made mistakes doesn't mean you have to repeat them.

[Patrick Bateman 3966]

5 minutes ago, youdunnf'dup said:

Yup. That’s the gamble we made and we’re losing. Both Goff and wentz have had down years. Dak is having his best year as a pro. 

We're also getting trucked on Amari, who may have moved from 16mish to 18ish now.  Headed towards Thomas numbers.  We may just have to franchise one of them.

Found this interesting.

 

[C-Man 27779]

2 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

We're also getting trucked on Amari, who may have moved from 16mish to 18ish now.  Headed towards Thomas numbers.  We may just have to franchise one of them.

Found this interesting.

 

Wow -- Byron Jones has two takeaways in his career!!! I had to look it up -- and you're right.

[Patrick Bateman 3966]

2 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Wow -- Byron Jones has two takeaways in his career!!! I had to look it up -- and you're right.

Hands of stone..... he has terrible ball skills which is why he wasn't working at safety.  He's done well in his switch but he's not elite or anything.  Have a feeling, he'll probably bounce in the offseason, which makes Lewis' development more important in the slot and we'll probably be drafting a CB in top 3 rounds.

[Patrick Bateman 3966]

10 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Just because a couple of other teams made mistakes doesn't mean you have to repeat them.

At this stage, the options are franchise him which is estimated to be about 28m+ with new QB deals coming on the market.  You let him walk and then have to find a successor in the draft or take a chance on fixing someone like Mariota or Rosen (ewww).  Or trying to engineer a trade or sign a band aid for like a Foles or Dalton which means giving up probably day 2 assets.  Or work with him to find a contract which works.  These contracts aren't like the Gurley deal (which we proceeded to duplicate) which was such an outlier that almost every other franchise wouldn't come near it.  This is the going rate for young QBs.  Mahomes is going to get like 40m.

 

[totallynotabuttpirate 5484]

11 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Wow -- Byron Jones has two takeaways in his career!!! I had to look it up -- and you're right.

Must've happened when someone ran up to him and handed him the ball. 

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

3 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

Must've happened when someone ran up to him and handed him the ball. 

Byron Jones is the PBU king. He will get his fingertip on balls thrown his way and shut down another teams best option, but he just doesn’t get turnovers. I don’t know what to make of Chidoe anymore. He doesn’t really do either. Always in the right position, but he has terrible ball skills. 

[DougO 5264]

Get a bookend pass rusher and watch the cornerback ratings jump up.

[Trey3216 15452]

39 minutes ago, youdunnf'dup said:

Yup. That’s the gamble we made and we’re losing. Both Goff and wentz have had down years. Dak is having his best year as a pro. 

You can run it over the last 48 games played and it would be a similar graphic 

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

19 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

You can run it over the last 48 games played and it would be a similar graphic 

I feel pretty confident in saying Dak is better than Goff, and he always has been. And im at the point now where he’s as good or better than Wentz. Hand up. I didn’t believe that before the year started. I do now. I still think wentz would be better than he is now if he was in our offense, but it don’t make a shit. Dak is legit. He has his flaws (we saw a lot of the good and the bad from him last night), but halfway through year 4 I feel good about where we’re at with him.

[Pato del Muerto 53466]

59 minutes ago, DougO said:

Get a bookend pass rusher and watch the cornerback ratings jump up.

I think Quinn and Bennett and Lawrence can provide a good pass rush from the edge. 

[Patrick Bateman 3966]

This should help next game.  

Don't know how relevant this is.  Don't think much.

 

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

We also get primetime cousins, so thank you NFL.

[Drew 2922]

3 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

The first one is a joke.  2nd one is questionable but I could understand it.

 

Yeah that first one was Trash. 2nd one wasn't good either.

2 hours ago, Braff Zacklin said:

Don't want to sound like Zavala but those are headscratchers.

I realize holding is a subjective call and one could argue it occurs on every play, but those calls seem beyond ticky tack.

Yeah, it was pretty bad last night for him.

2 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

For those of you trying to figure out value on Dak's contract.  

 

And put in perspective that Dak has been playing in a pretty bad offense(at least creatively), and under coaching we all think is trash.  Hard to keep ignoring what he's doing despite his supposed limitations AND the limitations of the brain trust he's under.

1 hour ago, youdunnf'dup said:

I feel pretty confident in saying Dak is better than Goff, and he always has been. And im at the point now where he’s as good or better than Wentz. Hand up. I didn’t believe that before the year started. I do now. I still think wentz would be better than he is now if he was in our offense, but it don’t make a shit. Dak is legit. He has his flaws (we saw a lot of the good and the bad from him last night), but halfway through year 4 I feel good about where we’re at with him.

Pretty much.  It's why I find it so fucking laughable that I saw "experts" praising Wentz for his last two weeks(around 225 yards passing a TD or 2 in both games...stats that we killed Dak for), and then crapping on Dak saying last night proved he wasn't really good at all.  Dude had 3 TD's AFTER his stupid/inexplicable INT...and had another TD called back, or it would have been 4.

He's clearly having his best year as a QB.

12 minutes ago, youdunnf'dup said:

We also get primetime cousins, so thank you NFL.

Awesome.

[Drew 2922]

Also, the Cowboys(and Dak) are 17-5 in the Division since Dak/Zeke were drafted.  That's including the throw away losses in week 17 to Philly, and the games without Zeke(been a few, so it's not just him)

8-0 since they traded for Cooper.

 

How any other fucking fan base in this division giggled at the idea of the Cowboys paying Dak, acting like it would be GOOD for their team if Dak was locked up long term, is fucking ridiculous.  The Cowboys OWN this division.

Edited November 5, 2019 by Drew

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

One of my best friends is an eagles fan (I know, everyone has flaws) and he reminds me every other week how it pisses him off thinking about how well the Amari Cooper trade has worked out for us. I don’t think in Stephen Jones wildest dreams he thought it would work out this well.

[dcar00 14950]

2 hours ago, youdunnf'dup said:

I feel pretty confident in saying Dak is better than Goff, and he always has been. And im at the point now where he’s as good or better than Wentz. Hand up. I didn’t believe that before the year started. I do now. I still think wentz would be better than he is now if he was in our offense, but it don’t make a shit. Dak is legit. He has his flaws (we saw a lot of the good and the bad from him last night), but halfway through year 4 I feel good about where we’re at with him.

I have no issue with Dak other than he doesn't run enough and his deep balls aren't great.  he's good enough to win with a top 10-12 defense and an OL.  he isn't going to make chicken salad out of chicken shit on the reg. they need to be drafting Smith's replacement.

He's not great but he might get there.  

[dcar00 14950]

4 hours ago, Braff Zacklin said:

Don't want to sound like Zavala but those are headscratchers.

I realize holding is a subjective call and one could argue it occurs on every play, but those calls seem beyond ticky tack.

the headscratchers are the norm not the outlier.  Connor had a couple recently.

for the last 4 years we are either #1 or #2 in offensive holding.  most of the teams high on the list are the suck except us.  we aren't great but we aren't in washington type suck category.  we are consistently up there whereas the teams around us change.  IMO it should be pretty random as to who is at the top or bottom unless you are a shitty OL trying to protect your QB.

we also get called for a crazy amount of holding on running plays as well.  zeke rips off a 12 yard gain..holding.  I think teams are complaining to officials before the game to look for it.  there are too many questionable ones we get called for.

The other thing is we are close to the bottom on being the beneficiary of holding calls for the same period. 

[Trey3216 15452]

The Cowboys are the inverse beneficiary of Stephen being the head of the NFL competition committee 

[DougO 5264]

5 hours ago, youdunnf'dup said:

One of my best friends is an eagles fan (I know, everyone has flaws) and he reminds me every other week how it pisses him off thinking about how well the Amari Cooper trade has worked out for us. I don’t think in Stephen Jones wildest dreams he thought it would work out this well.

I believe Jerry did believe in his wildest dreams that it would work out so well. But he does that with every acquisition, only that's one of the very few that  actually met his expectations.

[futureman 22696]

this team will have a rough 2nd half of the season.  take solace in the fact that ginger will not be retained.

[SurlyBDR 23153]

[Dr Fear 1290]

[C-Man 27779]

6 minutes ago, Dr Fear said:

 

Awful

[Vic Mackey 47952]

In regards to Garrett wearing the headset, has any one actually seen him talk into it? I can't remember one time I ever saw him speak into the headset. Is it all for show?

[Iceman 2978]

2 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

In regards to Garrett wearing the headset, has any one actually seen him talk into it? I can't remember one time I ever saw him speak into the headset. Is it all for show?

 I wish they would not plug it in to the box they wear on their belts.

Just let the cord dangle

 The results in the draft damn sure approved when they did the same to JerrAh  

 

 

[Iceman 2978]

2 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

In regards to Garrett wearing the headset, has any one actually seen him talk into it? I can't remember one time I ever saw him speak into the headset. Is it all for show?

 I wish they would not plug it in to the box they wear on their belts.

Just let the cord dangle

 The results in the draft damn sure approved when they did the same to JerrAh  

 

 

[Irish Wrist Watch 1501]

17 hours ago, futureman said:

this team will have a rough 2nd half of the season.  take solace in the fact that ginger will not be retained.

I'd say the odds are you are correct on both predictions.

 

[Mileslong 4810]

[Junior Miller 1502]

7 hours ago, C-Man said:

Awful

Nothing like a guy who just signed a $90 million contract hustling cheap T-shirts like brothas outside the fence at Starplex

[futureman 22696]

31 minutes ago, Junior Miller said:

Nothing like a guy who just signed a $90 million contract hustling cheap T-shirts like brothas outside the fence at Starplex

d-law is selling them, not zeke. 

[Pato del Muerto 53466]

2 hours ago, Junior Miller said:

Nothing like a guy who just signed a $90 million contract hustling cheap T-shirts like brothas outside the fence at Starplex

Showing your age saying starplex

[futureman 22696]

3 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Showing your age saying starplex

it’ll always be starplex

[Dr Fear 1290]

13 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Showing your age saying starplex

I might agree if it hadn't been multiple random names over the years, including back to starplex 2 years ago.

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