2018 - Elections and Trends

[Nice Guy Eddie 13516]

Where/when did this signature matching trend start?   How do banks handle this, if they match at all.

[hayden_horn 11364]

5 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Where/when did this signature matching trend start?   How do banks handle this, if they match at all.

my signature has gone to shit, especially now in the age of tablet signatures.

also, i cannot remember the last time i signed the back of a credit card. 

it's an archaic metric, which favors older folks who have spent their lives with the same signature, because it used to actually mean something.

i bet if we sat down over a couple of beers we could figure out why these metrics are being used. well, maybe wouldn't need a couple. maybe a half pint.

[atomheartbevo 89766]

8 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Where/when did this signature matching trend start?   

When Republicans started losing.

Edited November 15, 2018 by atomheartbevo

[Nice Guy Eddie 13516]

Gina Ortiz Jones attending the DC new congress orientation as she's confident that she will win TX-23 with the provisional vote count.  I know it covers many many counties but TX-23rd is taking their time with this.  Something about Bexar County and their  review of provisional ballots.  This article explains the problem but I can't following the flow of ballots and info.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2018-elections/2018/11/13/gina-ortiz-jones-trailing-will-hurd-asks-48-hour-extension-vote-counting-texas-competitive-congressional-district

All I can really tell is that none of the deadlines are being met but a judge won't allow the counties to extend other deadlines.

Isn't a provisional ballot obtained on Election Day when your registration can't be confirmed for whatever reason.  Then you have a few days to provide your case to the county, and if successful, they count your ballot?   Why is this so complicated?

[Mole 4333]

Is there some kind of rubric or standard for determining a match? Otherwise it’s just open season disenfranchisement. It’s stupid either way.

[Bozo_Casanova 26514]

Our country was lost when a man could no longer eat his eggs, chicken fried steak, biscuits and gravy without having to read about the blacks, browns and breasted getting all uppity in the morning paper.

This is Randy Taylor, I don’t know where you people come from. I don’t know if you test your products, your quantity of your products – your products are very delicious. I love your sausage for 30 something years, but I can’t take and feed a family of five on a little 12 ounce roll of sausage.

I don’t mind paying you more money for your 16 ounce roll of sausage, but you don’t have it anymore. You got a 12 ounce roll, and you’ve got three men that way over 200 pounds a piece, a woman that’s a little plump Scotch girl and a daughter who is 13 and you’re going to try to take a 12 ounce roll of sausage and a couple of dozen eggs and feed that – it ain’t going to work and I’m not going to purchase your product anymore or ever again. And as far as your 16 ounce, and maple and sage, I don’t need them, I’m not from the north. I’m a Texas man.

Jimmy Deans sausage is for Southern people to eat with the breakfast, with the fried eggs and the T-bone steaks.

[HenryJames 66135]

 

[Patrick Bateman 3918]

So.... geriatrics more deluded than the younger GOPs.

 

[bolverk 29703]

Here's an outstanding Op/Ed from the Upshot detailing the changing hue of Texas. Lots of excellent quotes in here from various Texas experts.

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It is premature to say that Texas is turning blue, but whereas four years ago its hue was dark red, today it is light pink. As long as President Trump is in the White House, Republicans in Texas can look forward to much tougher battles from higher quality and better funded Democratic challengers than they faced prior to 2018, as well as being required to do something that most Republican candidates have not had to do for years in Texas; actually work up a sweat in the fall.

 

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We had 8.3 million voters in 2018 (up from just 4.7 million in 2014). That should go over 10 million in 2020, giving statewide Democrats a good chance of carrying the state for president and winning the U.S. senate seat.

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The migration of Texas’s big urban counties from red and purple to blue means Texas is a two party state for the first time in almost 30 years. Demographic changes, tremendous energy from voters, and a surge of resources will keep Texas competitive for decades.

 

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Something happened this year that has not happened before — Republican-leaning voters studied specific down-ballot races and broke ranks. That’s a terrible omen for Republicans, who spent the month before the election begging voters to vote straight-ticket R. Once voters get in the habit of splitting their ballot, they’re more likely to do so in the future.

 

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Something very strange happened here this year. Like Tower’s bid, the full payoff may not come for many years. But the state party now has what the Republican Party then needed more than anything else: A reason to start building in earnest. That’s not much, doubtless. But it just might be enough.

As always, friendly reminder to right-click and open in incognito mode.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/15/opinion/texas-trump-blue-red-beto.html

[Nice Guy Eddie 13516]

Interesting point that if 2m more people vote in Texas in 2020 than from this year, can the gop take half of it so that trump wins the state.    I think the answer is still yes but we are moving to a 50/50 split.  Texas needs to evaluate the process for statewide recounts.

Edited November 16, 2018 by Nice Guy Eddie

[cactusflinthead 27601]

 

[cactusflinthead 27601]

No more Rs in Orange county. 

 

[cactusflinthead 27601]

10 hours ago, bolverk said:

Here's an outstanding Op/Ed from the Upshot detailing the changing hue of Texas. Lots of excellent quotes in here from various Texas experts.

As always, friendly reminder to right-click and open in incognito mode.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/15/opinion/texas-trump-blue-red-beto.html

Joe Straus doesn't give a shit what they say now. 

[RayDog 682]

8 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Interesting point that if 2m more people vote in Texas in 2020 than from this year, can the gop take half of it so that trump wins the state.    I think the answer is still yes but we are moving to a 50/50 split.  Texas needs to evaluate the process for statewide recounts.

Well over a million of those votes will come from the overwhelmingly Democratic counties, or counties trending Democratic by 3 to 4% every two years.

[Js1 85454]

 

[Chuckie Finster 22704]

32 minutes ago, Js1 said:

 

Trump and Co. forgetting that there are (were?) tens of millions of Republicans in California is one of my favorite side-effects of his presidency.

[Aqua Buddha 14599]

33 minutes ago, Js1 said:

 

The cradle of mid 20th century conservatism doesn't have one Republican Congressman.  Wow.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13516]

Long way off but I’m not confident dems can hold some of these seats in 2020.   

[horncyclist 1391]

57 minutes ago, Js1 said:

 

Bizzare to see nongerrymandered districts.

[HenryJames 66135]

 

[FondrenRoad 4378]

11 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

She is really a disgusting human being. Sadly, that will earn her even more votes in Mississippi.

[Guest Lobo]

1 hour ago, horncyclist said:

Bizzare to see nongerrymandered districts.

I don't think the appreciate the intricacy of CA-46.  Zoom in, it's a shitshow.  But the point is taken, that's a very telling indicator given how much of Orange County was do deeply red for so long.  (Or deeply red by CA standards)>  

[FondrenRoad 4378]

3 minutes ago, Lobo said:

I don't think the appreciate the intricacy of CA-46.  Zoom in, it's a shitshow.  But the point is taken, that's a very telling indicator given how much of Orange County was do deeply red for so long.  (Or deeply red by CA standards)>  

Some level of gerrymandering is unavoidable, but CA lines are way more equitable than Texas.

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3861]

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One week after the votes were counted, a coin toss was used to settle a City Council race that ended in a tie in Crescent Springs, Kentucky.

 

 

https://www.wpsdlocal6.com/2018/11/14/coin-flip-decides-kentucky-election/

 

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A small Kentucky town has determined who its new mayor will be with the flip of a coin.

Sister station WYMT is reporting that the mayoral race in the city of Loyall was a tight one. Going into Thursday morning, more than a week after Election Day, candidates Rodrick Major and Clark Bailey were gridlocked with 78 votes a piece.

https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Coin-flip-decides-Kentucky-mayoral-race-but-neither-candidate-is-satisfied-500642672.html

 

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For at least the third time this year, a coin flip will be used to break a tied Kentucky vote.

A coin flip Thursday is expected to decide whether Perry County in Buckhorn Lake State Park is allowed to sell alcohol after a local referendum ended in a tie. The park and 1,200-acre lake is nestled in a dry precinct about 50 miles (80 kilometers) from the Virginia border.

The Tuesday vote was 155-155. State law allows tie votes to be settled with a coin flip.

https://www.apnews.com/fc4b558ade044ebdbf162ebf6916e182

 

 

Three Kentucky elections end in a tie, resulting in flipping a coin.

 

[Js1 85454]

19 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

Some level of gerrymandering is unavoidable, but CA lines are way more equitable than Texas.

California does not let its politicians gerrymander. 

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The California Citizens Redistricting Commission is the redistricting organization for the state of California. It is responsible for determining the boundaries for the Senate, Assembly, and Board of Equalization districts in the state. The 14-member commission consists of five Democrats, five Republicans, and four commissioners from neither major party. The commission was authorized following the passage of California Proposition 11, the Voters First Act, by voters in November 2008.

Following the 2010 passage of California Proposition 20, the Voters First Act for Congress, the Commission was also assigned the responsibility of redrawing the state's U.S. congressional district boundaries in response to the congressional apportionment necessitated by the 2010 United States Census.

 

Oh yeah, and politicians HATE IT because it makes "safe" seats more competitive.  Which means I'm a huge fucking fan of how they do it.

Edited November 16, 2018 by Js1

[Biff Tannen 45696]

11 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

The defense is "she was totally joking".  Fuck these people.

[Lurch 5931]

Long way off but I’m not confident dems can hold some of these seats in 2020.   

Though some whiplash/overcorrection can normally be expected, Trump will actually be on the ballot in 2020. Turnout against him will be epic.

[Gil Bang 25984]

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

California does not let its politicians gerrymander. 

Oh yeah, and politicians HATE IT because it makes "safe" seats more competitive.  Which means I'm a huge fucking fan of how they do it.

We've got Arnold to thank for it.  He really pushed it.  God Bless that mofo. 

[FondrenRoad 4378]

2 hours ago, Lurch said:

 

Though some whiplash/overcorrection can normally be expected, Trump will actually be on the ballot in 2020. Turnout against him will be epic.

 

Maybe.  Or maybe he is in federal prison in 2020.

[Aqua Buddha 14599]

Dems flipped a House seat in Maine using the forced ranking system

A House Republican who represents the northern part of Maine became the latest incumbent to be unseated as the Democrats' blue wave continues more than a week after Election Day.

Democrat Jared Golden was declared the winner Thursday in Maine's 2nd Congressional District after trailing Rep. Bruce Poliquin in the initial tally of votes. But Golden was declared the winner thanks to Maine's new ranked-choice system of voting, which allows voters to rank candidates in their order of preference and to transfer their votes if no candidate gets more than 50 percent.

It's the nation's first use of ranked-choice voting in a general election for a congressional seat. Maine voters ratified ranked-choice voting via a ballot initiative two years ago.

https://www.npr.org/2018/11/15/668296045/ranked-choice-voting-delivers-another-victory-to-house-democrats

 

 

[Brisketexan 105187]

One week after the votes were counted, a coin toss was used to settle a City Council race that ended in a tie in Crescent Springs, Kentucky.

 
 
https://www.wpsdlocal6.com/2018/11/14/coin-flip-decides-kentucky-election/
 

A small Kentucky town has determined who its new mayor will be with the flip of a coin.

Sister station WYMT is reporting that the mayoral race in the city of Loyall was a tight one. Going into Thursday morning, more than a week after Election Day, candidates Rodrick Major and Clark Bailey were gridlocked with 78 votes a piece.

https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Coin-flip-decides-Kentucky-mayoral-race-but-neither-candidate-is-satisfied-500642672.html
 

For at least the third time this year, a coin flip will be used to break a tied Kentucky vote.

A coin flip Thursday is expected to decide whether Perry County in Buckhorn Lake State Park is allowed to sell alcohol after a local referendum ended in a tie. The park and 1,200-acre lake is nestled in a dry precinct about 50 miles (80 kilometers) from the Virginia border.

The Tuesday vote was 155-155. State law allows tie votes to be settled with a coin flip.

https://www.apnews.com/fc4b558ade044ebdbf162ebf6916e182
 
 
Three Kentucky elections end in a tie, resulting in flipping a coin.
 

....which they had to borrow from Ohio. Because Kentucky.

[Js1 85454]

I wouldn't call it "forced." You could have marked it 1 for your candidate and ranked no one 2-3-4.

Edited November 16, 2018 by Js1

[Aqua Buddha 14599]

I like how Republicans have forced people to vote using provisional ballots and are now bitching about how long it takes to count provisional ballots.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13516]

2 hours ago, Lurch said:

 

Though some whiplash/overcorrection can normally be expected, Trump will actually be on the ballot in 2020. Turnout against him will be epic.

 

Don't disagree but who knows what 2020 may bring.    With Trump that is about 1500 news cycles away from now.  He could be in jail, or maybe we're changing the Constitutional to allow Presidents for Life.     

[Biff Tannen 45696]

7 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Dems flipped a House seat in Maine using the forced ranking system

A House Republican who represents the northern part of Maine became the latest incumbent to be unseated as the Democrats' blue wave continues more than a week after Election Day.

Democrat Jared Golden was declared the winner Thursday in Maine's 2nd Congressional District after trailing Rep. Bruce Poliquin in the initial tally of votes. But Golden was declared the winner thanks to Maine's new ranked-choice system of voting, which allows voters to rank candidates in their order of preference and to transfer their votes if no candidate gets more than 50 percent.

It's the nation's first use of ranked-choice voting in a general election for a congressional seat. Maine voters ratified ranked-choice voting via a ballot initiative two years ago.

https://www.npr.org/2018/11/15/668296045/ranked-choice-voting-delivers-another-victory-to-house-democrats

 

 

 

6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

 
 
https://www.wpsdlocal6.com/2018/11/14/coin-flip-decides-kentucky-election/
 
https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Coin-flip-decides-Kentucky-mayoral-race-but-neither-candidate-is-satisfied-500642672.html
 
https://www.apnews.com/fc4b558ade044ebdbf162ebf6916e182
 
 
Three Kentucky elections end in a tie, resulting in flipping a coin.
 

....which they had to borrow from Ohio. Because Kentucky.

These two back to back make me laugh...or cry...not sure which.  Maine has a rational, logical approach to elections and Kentucky?  Fuck it, let's flip a fucking coin.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13516]

I love what Maine did with their ranked voting.  However if attempted in Texas, I worry that it would create major problems for voting locations that are already overrun with too many voters.   We could see average lines of several hours which should not be acceptable.

 

[Gil Bang 25984]

28 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

 

These two back to back make me laugh...or cry...not sure which.  Maine has a rational, logical approach to elections and Kentucky?  Fuck it, let's flip a fucking coin.

I remember a story about an election tie in NV a few years back, and they cut cards to determine the winner.

[Gil Bang 25984]

 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13516]

For everyone that screams how paper ballots is the best ballot method to use, they seem to cause the most problems.

[kevwun 15814]

If you can't color in a circle by the name of the candidate you want to vote for, you are literally too stupid to vote.

[FondrenRoad 4378]

7 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

For everyone that screams how paper ballots is the best ballot method to use, they seem to cause the most problems.

Florida causes problems.  Undervotes due to ballot design is the new hanging chad.  They should let another state handle their elections for them.

Although the NY state ballots were just as poorly designed as the ones Broward County is using, if not worse.  2 pages front and back that you have to tear apart to scan, and a multilanguage grid that makes it difficult to understand which race you are voting for.  People still managed to figure it out though.  Maybe the problem in Florida is Floridians.

Edited November 16, 2018 by FondrenRoad

[Nice Guy Eddie 13516]

1 minute ago, FondrenRoad said:

Florida causes problems.  Undervotes due to ballot design is the new hanging chad.  They should let another state handle their elections for them.

Although the NY state ballots were just as poorly designed as the ones Broward County is using, if not worse.  2 pages front and back that you have to tear apart to scan, and a multilanguage grid that makes it difficult to understand which race you are voting for.  People still managed to figure it out though.  Maybe the problem in Florida is Floridians.

But we don't know how well people in NY filled it out because their votes don't appear to be very close except in a few cases.  

As the saying goes, half of the population are below average intelligence.   

[Gil Bang 25984]

As I've previously posted, I voted for DeLeon, because Diane will be 91 fucking years old when her term is up.  That's just outright ridiculous. 

[Guest Lobo]

That's ageist and sexist.  Commuting back and forth between California and DC at age 91 is a fucking breeze and she'll have tons of energy leftover for her constituents.  

[Nice Guy Eddie 13516]

9 minutes ago, kevwun said:

If you can't color in a circle by the name of the candidate you want to vote for, you are literally too stupid to vote.

That person has the same power as you to elect our leaders.  

[FondrenRoad 4378]

11 minutes ago, kevwun said:

If you can't color in a circle by the name of the candidate you want to vote for, you are literally too stupid to vote.

 

1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

That person has the same power as you to elect our leaders.  

Well, not really.  They have the same right to go to the polls, but they aren't electing shit if they don't color in a circle.

[Gil Bang 25984]

From the Department of "No Shit"

 

 

[Biff Tannen 45696]

18 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

As I've previously posted, I voted for DeLeon, because Diane will be 91 fucking years old when her term is up.  That's just outright ridiculous. 

That is fucked up.  There really should be a maximum age for public service.  She very well may be in great control of her faculties, but even so, sorry, we have to draw the line somewhere.

[Gil Bang 25984]

Just now, Biff Tannen said:

That is fucked up.  There really should be a maximum age for public service.  She very well may be in great control of her faculties, but even so, sorry, we have to draw the line somewhere.

I had hoped that the voters could establish when somebody's too old, but the CA voters failed to do that. 

[hayden_horn 11364]

32 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

For everyone that screams how paper ballots is the best ballot method to use, they seem to cause the most problems.

i don't understand why we cannot vote on a machine that prints out our paper results, which we then review and submit to be scanned in as a vote.