2018 - Elections and Trends

[RomaVicta 29744]

12 hours ago, Ag with kids said:

 

Or perhaps, Republican's aren't all racists.

But, I'm sure you've never entertained that idea.

Glad to see you made it over, AWK. That said, it's like you've been in a hibernation chamber for a few decades. You speak for a GOP that has transformed during your long sleep. They elected Donald Trump, can you believe that? Oh, they're also soft on Russia and big on tariffs. Oh! And the GOP president wants to create a Space Force as a new branch of the military! SPACE FORCE!

You may not be a GOP anymore.

[Ten Bears 2478]

12 hours ago, Ag with kids said:

As opposed to the Democratic Party that demands that race be taken into account for all manner of things, from jobs, to employment, educational positions, etc.

Interesting...

You might not be a racist.  But you are wearing a racist's uniform.

[cactusflinthead 27593]

29 minutes ago, Chrispy said:

I was born in the mid-eighties, sounds like that was this guy’s heyday.

Gary Hart getting busted with Donna Rice in his lap =Dukakis88.

[tantric superman 4667]

It's not really worthy of a separate thread, but the more I think of it the more I have this strange urge to join the Republican party because there is such a vacuum of morals and ideals.  The first conservative I listened to regularly was William F. Buckley.  He was an odd duck but he and the liberals he engaged with spoke the same language and I never even as I got into college and the right wing got funnier and meaner that they were trying to propose policies that would benefit all Americans.

Not this POS in the White House, and not his supporters. They want to be the winners, and they don't seem to give a fuck about those who are the economic losers, other than to motivate them by hate and discord. 

Democracy in a free market won't work without opportunity, and I want a government that is as limited as it cam be while still providing a safety net of the basics (health care) and opportunity (need based education through university).  Republicans could be leaders in that charge if they wanted to, and could tone down the overzealousness of the Left, but they've taken the lowest possible road.

I actually was upbeat after Trump won because I thought BOTH parties would move towards fixing their problems.  I thought the religious right and those haters could be marginalized by decent Republicans who were feeling that their party was getting away from them.  But that doesn't seem to be the case,  so Brisket's "kill them all with fire approach" is understandable, although I tend to be more optimistic.

Solid defeat for the Republicans this fall could lead to great improvements in the party.  I'm hoping at least.

[Horn Dog 9623]

38 minutes ago, Chrispy said:

I was born in the mid-eighties, sounds like that was this guy’s heyday.

For you youngies.. Gary Hart was a dem presidential front runner that got busted with a side piece.  The 80’s were a time when such a thing was considered a “scandal” and having a known side piece actually invoked enough outrage from the electorate that such a thing could cause you to not be a viable candidate for the presidency.

[RomaVicta 29744]

Well, now that I've read the whole thread, AWK, you disappoint me. Really look at what you're defending. The GOP overwhelming and rabidly support Donald Trump. That's who they are.

You really want to be a part of that? Really?

[Lurch 5919]

Yeah, that was disturbing. I’m not going to hold DeSantis responsible for someone else’s idiocy, though. 

That’s awfully convenient.

[Ghost of LL 15347]

25 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

For you youngies.. Gary Hart was a dem presidential front runner that got busted with a side piece.  The 80’s were a time when such a thing was considered a “scandal” and having a known side piece actually invoked enough outrage from the electorate that such a thing could cause you to not be a viable candidate for the presidency.

And what's germane to this thread is how he got busted.  He openly challenged the media to follow him to see that he was clean.  They did, and they caught him climbing aboard the motor yacht Monkey Business with the aforementioned side piece.  

So yeah--for a generation of us, when we hear "monkey business," we think Gary Hart.

[Texas73 420]

2 hours ago, Chrispy said:

Maybe, I know very little about DeSantis as a candidate. I did, however, grow up in an area where “monkey business” and “monkeying around” were commonplace, so all of the uproar continues to baffle me. 

Then you baffle easily. DeSantis' comment was regarding his black opponent, not some white guy telling his kids who are supposed to be completing a task. 

You are either in denial or you are as dumb as DeSantis thinking this remark is okay in this specific situation. 

[Bama Chick 28596]

Yeah, the Gary Hart picture was germane because the boat they were on when he got caught with Donna Rice was named “Monkey Business”.

I was only a teenager when it happened but it’s always stuck with me for some reason.

That’s when all voters gave a shit about their politicians lying and bad behavior. Or least pretended to.

Shit, I’m old.

[tantric superman 4667]

14 minutes ago, Texas73 said:

You are either in denial or you are as dumb as DeSantis thinking this remark is okay in this specific situation. 

I think a bit of both. 

[Chrispy 132]

32 minutes ago, Texas73 said:

Then you baffle easily. DeSantis' comment was regarding his black opponent, not some white guy telling his kids who are supposed to be completing a task. 

You are either in denial or you are as dumb as DeSantis thinking this remark is okay in this specific situation. 

If you say so. 

[Ag with kids 581]

3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

And I remember when the GOP was a reasonable party. I was even a voting primary member.

Now, a sizable percentage/majority believes things like the press is the enemy of the people, fact-based reporting is “fake news,” it’s cool to or children in jails, and guys named Jaime hanging Sheetrock are a major threat to our national security.

Let’s be real fucking clear here: fucksticks like you do NOT get to lecture ME. You don’t get to buy into those value systems and then lecture ANYONE about ANYTHING.

I don't believe that the press is the enemy of the people.  It IS extremely biased towards the left though.  Maybe they ought to be more honest about that.

It's cool that you think illegal immigration is ok.  More power to you.

I disagree.  I don't have a problem with increasing legal immigration though.

I do love how you toss out ad hominem and straw men to attack me though.  Like I said, you used to be reasonable, sorry to see you go.

[Ag with kids 581]

3 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

Well, now that I've read the whole thread, AWK, you disappoint me. Really look at what you're defending. The GOP overwhelming and rabidly support Donald Trump. That's who they are.

You really want to be a part of that? Really?

Trump is a buffoon.

But, am I somehow supposed to support any position on the left merely because of that?  I think the positions of the left are HORRIBAD for the US.

 

I also don't like getting called a racist just because I support positions on the right.  Fuck people who stoop to that level.  It's 7th grade ad hominem bullshit.

 

[Aqua Buddha 14484]

2 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

And what's germane to this thread is how he got busted.  He openly challenged the media to follow him to see that he was clean.  They did, and they caught him climbing aboard the motor yacht Monkey Business with the aforementioned side piece.  

So yeah--for a generation of us, when we hear "monkey business," we think Gary Hart.

Still not bad at 60:

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

1 minute ago, Ag with kids said:

I think the positions of the left are HORRIBAD for the US.

What positions?  

[Ag with kids 581]

3 hours ago, Ten Bears said:

You might not be a racist.  But you are wearing a racist's uniform.

Fuck you.  No I'm not.

But, keep on keeping on.  It helps me to realize that your opinion isn't worth much when you toss out blanket ad hominem like that.

 

[Ag with kids 581]

2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

What positions?  

His economic views.

His views on health care.

His views on government regulation

His views on taxation.

Etc...

[Brisketexan 104425]

6 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

I don't believe that the press is the enemy of the people.  It IS extremely biased towards the left though.  Maybe they ought to be more honest about that.

It's fucking called "biased" when it literally quotes the president word-for-word and cites factual data.  Fuck you, you have zero credibility on that point.  None.  

 

7 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

It's cool that you think illegal immigration is ok.  More power to you.

 

I don't think illegal immigration is "ok."  But you pathetic simpletons on team xenophobia have to label EVERY PERSON who disagrees with your draconian bullshit as "for OPEN BORDERS!"  Nope.  I've posted my position and proposals on this and prior boards 100 times.  I believe we need a functioning system, which ensures that folks who come here are vetted and end up on the grid, etc.  But I ALSO believe that fucking torturing children by separating them from their parents and even deporting the parents, leaving the kids fucking ORPHANED is fucking insanely cruel, and this will go down as one of the most shameful episodes in our history.  You have chosen your side.  History will judge you someday, but I ain't waiting to decide that you're a piece of shit.

 

11 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

I don't have a problem with increasing legal immigration though.

Bullshit.  Your team is busy challenging the citizenship of fucking LEGAL, NATURAL-BORN AMERICANS.  Men like my father.  Born in a border town, at home, to a midwife.  So he's suspect now.  But he wasn't so suspect he couldn't serve his country in the Army.  Oh, that was AFTER he went to your precious A&M, too.  How bout them apples?  But in the eyes of YOUR FUCKING TEAM NATIVIST, he just might not be 'murican enough, and we need to nab his passport, okay?  Fuck you.  You either fight against that bullshit, or you enable it.  Your team is clear.  It's team ball-less coward.

Damn right I'm attacking you personally.  You know why?  BECAUSE YOU FUCKERS HAVE ATTACKED ME AND MY FAMILY PERSONALLY.  So fuck you.  I hope your family faces torture, suffering, and deprivation of their citizenship.  Suffering is the only way asshole idiots like you will ever learn that what you support is fucking evil.  You are either okay with what is happening, or you fight against it.  What kind of man are you?

We already know.  You're no man at all.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

5 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

His economic views.

His views on health care.

His views on government regulation

His views on taxation.

Etc...

Who is he?

What about his views don’t you like? 

Be specific, please explain what you don’t like about the views on health care.

Otherwise you’re not really holding a position.

Edited September 3, 2018 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Brisketexan 104425]

2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Who is he?

What about his views don’t you like? 

Be specific, please explain what you don’t like about the views on health care.

Otherwise you’re not really holding a position.

SOCIALISM!!!!

WE NEED TO SUPPORT 'MURICA!!!!!

STRONG ON GUNS AND CRIME!!!!

BUILD THE WALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There, I think I've about covered AWK's take on stuff, and the depth of his analysis.

[Ag with kids 581]

4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

SOCIALISM!!!!

WE NEED TO SUPPORT 'MURICA!!!!!

STRONG ON GUNS AND CRIME!!!!

BUILD THE WALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There, I think I've about covered AWK's take on stuff, and the depth of his analysis.

Nope.

 

But, you've thrown out a bunch of bullshit ad hominem and accused me of things I've never said nor supported.  So I guess that makes you an asshole.

 

Too bad the non-asshole Brisket is gone, I enjoyed listening to his positions.  Yours?  Just a pile a warped, twisted autistic screeching.  REEEEEEEEE!!!

[bad_teammate 13125]

You're an Aggie. lol

[Bozo_Casanova 26218]

15 hours ago, Ag with kids said:

BLM couldn't give 2 shits about the orders of magnitude more of blacks being killed by blacks.

Why not?

Hey. @Ag with kids is here. Ag, I'd love to argue with you about this, but you aren't really making an argument. You're just asserting things. 

Black Lives Matter exists not because all lives don't mater but because too often the life of black people in our society is treated as something without inherent value. And since I read your posts on abortion on the other boards for years, you should have the capacity to understand the point. 

But directly to your question, it's almost like this was written with you in mind:

Quote

We actually do talk about it ... all the time.

It is perfectly understandable why white America assumes that black people don’t talk about black-on-black crime. However, the reason they make this assumption dates to a quote found in recently uncovered papers from an unnamed woman archaeological and historical researchers refer to as “Grandmama”:

“It ain’t none of their damn business.”

The reality is, in neighborhoods and cities across America, there are countless organizations, activists and movements dedicated to curbing violence in black communities. The number of “Stop the Violence” marches dwarfs the demonstrations against police brutality. Unity rallies and peace picnics happen every day. Scared Straight programs for at-risk youths, gang counseling, neighborhood watches, intervention specialists, youth counselors, and too many other people and groups to name all lead the charge against crime and violence.

But those efforts don’t make the evening news because they aren’t as salacious as people blocking traffic and protesting; nor do they serve the preconceived white confirmation bias. Besides, there’s no way white people would know about this unless they stopped deflecting with trite questions and instead actually went into a minority neighborhood to selflessly join the effort to address the problems plaguing ...

OK, you can stop laughing now.

 

It's fun to have you back. Since this is a thread about elections and trends, your ridiculous advocacy for partisan gerrymandering has now reached the terminal point I told you it would back on Hornfans, where your congressman doesn't feel required to debate the issues or speak to constituents about local issues. How do you like it so far?

[RomaVicta 29744]

39 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

Trump is a buffoon.

But, am I somehow supposed to support any position on the left merely because of that?  I think the positions of the left are HORRIBAD for the US.

 

I think you're creating a position for those opposing Trump that is inaccurate. A good, traditional Republican could stick to his guns and still see the danger of the Trump presidency. Even the dread of leftist policies you state is sort of irrelevant with Trump as the leader of your party and president. 

Above I mention soft on Russia and big on tariffs. Trump operates from a world devoid of coherent policy or even the facade of a moral compass. Recognizing that is not the same thing as being compelled to embrace a more active federal government, raising the corporate tax, or feeding the poor.

Chitown Doc has not become a raving lib. Brisket is not a raving lib. George Will is not a raving lib. John McCain was not a raving lib. They see what Trump means to the definition of their political party and they are (were) not having it.

Trumpism is a bigger threat to your GOP than the left. The GOP largely, very largely, aligns with Trump. You can't man the barricades for the GOP and claim separation from Trumpism anymore. Trumpism has meant getting in bed with the "fine people" who support white supremacy and who want to characterize all undocumented aliens as villains looking only to rape and murder.

You were never a crazy rightist as I recall. You love Reagan. You believe in trickle down and that lowering taxes increases government income. You think government is rarely a good answer to any problem. Nobody expects a person like that to embrace the liberal left, but it's sickening to see someone embrace a party and policies that spring from Donald Trump.

To be a GOP today is to be a Trumpist. 

I'm sorry the discussion got so insulting, but exasperation at Trump is at a justifiably high level. Sorry to go on so long.

 

 

Edited September 3, 2018 by RomaVicta

[Brisketexan 104425]

7 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

Nope.

 

But, you've thrown out a bunch of bullshit ad hominem and accused me of things I've never said nor supported.  So I guess that makes you an asshole.

 

Too bad the non-asshole Brisket is gone, I enjoyed listening to his positions.  Yours?  Just a pile a warped, twisted autistic screeching.  REEEEEEEEE!!!

Your team is presently challenging the citizenship of loyal American citizens, veterans, and A&M alumni like my father.

What are you doing about that assault on the most basic of our American freedoms?  Are you even bothering to speak up for these people?  A single letter to your Congressman?  ANYTHING?

You stand by while, in the name of YOUR country, the metaphorical jackbooted thugs are working to fuck over Americans....because they happen to be a bit too mexican-ish for some people's tastes.  Your inaction and lack of  any real response puts you on team collaborator.  You are what you are.  And you know it.

You are a spineless unprincipled coward, more intent on protecting what's yours than even expending 1/10th of a calorie standing up for your fellow man.  You have the courage and integrity of a salted slug, with the spine to match.  I'm not calling you ANYTHING.  I'm simply observing what you are.  In a time of moral crisis, you are worse than worthless -- you actually lean in support of the regime that perpetrates these things.

I look forward to the day your children are ripped from you and detained God knows where, for God knows how long.  I look forward to the day that you are refused re-admittance to this country because we just can't trust that your kind REALLY is a citizen.  Your team is doing both of those things.  Right now.  While you wave the fucking pom-poms. 

Fight AGAINST THAT SHIT, or you might as well fight for it.  "Hey, I don't support Ag With Kids when he raped those 5 women, and murdered 10 kids, I have a real problem with that....but man, he's a really good CPA who does a great job on my taxes, so I stand by him and don't want him to go to jail."  You've picked your team, and you stand for NOTHING except yourself.  My hope is that maybe one or two of my words will stick in that reptilian brainstem of yours, and you'll wake up at some point with just a HINT  of what a POS you are.

[Bozo_Casanova 26218]

34 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

His economic views.

His views on health care.

His views on government regulation

His views on taxation.

Etc...

Who is "he" here?

[Huckleberry 32682]

Trump is a buffoon.
But, am I somehow supposed to support any position on the left merely because of that?  I think the positions of the left are HORRIBAD for the US.
 
I also don't like getting called a racist just because I support positions on the right.  Fuck people who stoop to that level.  It's 7th grade ad hominem bullshit.
 

What a terrible fucking performance in this thread by you.

Nobody called you a racist. You jumped in when people were talking about A CLEARLY RACIST ROBOCALL to wave your hands and try to divert attention to a straw man about everyone being called racists. That's not what was happening and you know it.

And now you throw in another straw man about supporting the left just because you hate Trump. Pure bullshit. Nobody said you should support liberal positions, just that you should maybe, you know, call out and berate CLEARLY RACIST BEHAVIOR instead of trying to distract others who are doing the same.

Unless you're claiming that hating racist behavior is a purely liberal position. Is that what you're saying? Because as an ACTUAL policy conservative and not a poser like you I would call that just as much bullshit.

Just pathetic posting.

[Bozo_Casanova 26218]

1 minute ago, Huckleberry said:

What a terrible fucking performance in this thread by you.

Nobody called you a racist. You jumped in when people were talking about A CLEARLY RACIST ROBOCALL to wave your hands and try to divert attention to a straw man about everyone being called racists. That's not what was happening and you know it.
 

 

I'm running into this a lot. It's decent people, conservatives who mostly still identify as Republican who are having trouble maintaining that identity when faced with a president whose low character they acknowledge and a policy agenda that is increasingly not conservative. I take it as a sign that their party identity is getting shaky. 

It reminds me of the George Allen/Jim Webb election in 2006, when @Ghost of LL and Brisket were still Republicans and Goll got very irritated with me for equating  the word "macaca" with "nigger". He didn't like George Allen, and he didn't like what he said, and he didn't really think he would be a good Senator,  but he wanted the Republican to win and at any rate he felt like it was very important to make the point that conservatives are not all racist. 

12 years later, Ghost doesn't identify as a Republican anymore. Neither does Brisket. I don't think they are less conservative. The GOP, on the other hand is openly trading both long-held policy position and long-held values for the hypothetical future behavior of judges.

[Ag with kids 581]

25 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Your team is presently challenging the citizenship of loyal American citizens, veterans, and A&M alumni like my father.

What are you doing about that assault on the most basic of our American freedoms?  Are you even bothering to speak up for these people?  A single letter to your Congressman?  ANYTHING?

You stand by while, in the name of YOUR country, the metaphorical jackbooted thugs are working to fuck over Americans....because they happen to be a bit too mexican-ish for some people's tastes.  Your inaction and lack of  any real response puts you on team collaborator.  You are what you are.  And you know it.

You are a spineless unprincipled coward, more intent on protecting what's yours than even expending 1/10th of a calorie standing up for your fellow man.  You have the courage and integrity of a salted slug, with the spine to match.  I'm not calling you ANYTHING.  I'm simply observing what you are.  In a time of moral crisis, you are worse than worthless -- you actually lean in support of the regime that perpetrates these things.

I look forward to the day your children are ripped from you and detained God knows where, for God knows how long.  I look forward to the day that you are refused re-admittance to this country because we just can't trust that your kind REALLY is a citizen.  Your team is doing both of those things.  Right now.  While you wave the fucking pom-poms. 

Fight AGAINST THAT SHIT, or you might as well fight for it.  "Hey, I don't support Ag With Kids when he raped those 5 women, and murdered 10 kids, I have a real problem with that....but man, he's a really good CPA who does a great job on my taxes, so I stand by him and don't want him to go to jail."  You've picked your team, and you stand for NOTHING except yourself.  My hope is that maybe one or two of my words will stick in that reptilian brainstem of yours, and you'll wake up at some point with just a HINT  of what a POS you are.

Oh, go fuck yourself.

Don't project your dementia on me.

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3861]

The moral GOP support of Trump has been reduced to viewing the president as Judge-Getter-In-Chief and ignoring the rest of his powers.  If they view the government that way, and they want those sorts of judges, there isn't much irrational with their support.  You'll see a lot of But Gorsuch!s for this reason.

 

Of course, I don't actually believe those people view the presidency as so limited, so I just end up thinking they are using the above rationale as a cover for the positions they hold that they are too embarrassed to admit.

[atomheartbevo 89348]

1 hour ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Still not bad at 60:

Her obsession with Batman would get old really fast.  

[Brisketexan 104425]

Oh, go fuck yourself.
Don't project your dementia on me.

What are you doing to stand up for Americans who are having their citizenship challenged?

I mean, other than continuing your loyal support of the “team” perpetrating that bullshit....

Seems the only question is, are you just a coward, or a collaborator?

I’m not projecting shit on you. I’m just exposing you for what you are. I’m not surprised you don’t like it - it’s a pretty ugly truth.

[Ag with kids 581]

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

What are you doing to stand up for Americans who are having their citizenship challenged?

I mean, other than continuing your loyal support of the “team” perpetrating that bullshit....

Seems the only question is, are you just a coward, or a collaborator?

I’m not projecting shit on you. I’m just exposing you for what you are. I’m not surprised you don’t like it - it’s a pretty ugly truth.

At what fucking time have I EVER stated that I support challenging the citizenship of Americans?  Just because you project your demented view on me doesn't make it so.

You're not exposing anything other than you've become a raving lunatic that has no fucking idea about me.

[atomheartbevo 89348]

 "Complacency is our enemy. Anyone that does not embrace the @realDonaldTrump agenda of making America great again will be making a mistake”

“The Republican Party is the Trump Party.”

- Republican National Committee chairwoman Ronna McDaniel

When the Chair of the RNC publicly says the GOP is the Trump Party and that Trump’s agenda must be embraced, that’s not some kind of gray area.  It’s not open for interpretation.   She is bluntly saying that if you’re a member of the GOP, you are a member of the Trump Party. 

[Brisketexan 104425]

At what fucking time have I EVER stated that I support challenging the citizenship of Americans?  Just because you project your demented view on me doesn't make it so.

You're not exposing anything other than you've become a raving lunatic that has no fucking idea about me.

You are a loyal, unwavering supporter of the GOP, the self-avowed party of Trumpism, which absolutely DOES support that exact thing.

 

You don’t get to say “hey, I vote exclusively for Nazis, I support that party over all others, and want it to hold all power because I like a lot of its economic positions and stuff, but don’t pin that Jew-hating thing on me, I don’t agree with it.” That’s not how this shit works. You support a party that has such bullshittery as one of its central features. You don’t get to both unwaveringly support them AND disavow them.

[Celery Man 20870]

4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

You are a loyal, unwavering supporter of the GOP, the self-avowed party of Trumpism, which absolutely DOES support that exact thing.

 

You don’t get to say “hey, I vote exclusively for Nazis, I support that party over all others, and want it to hold all power because I like a lot of its economic positions and stuff, but don’t pin that Jew-hating thing on me, I don’t agree with it.” That’s not how this shit works. You support a party that has such bullshittery as one of its central features. You don’t get to both unwaveringly support them AND disavow them.

 

[SubliminalHorn 6643]

History will not be kind to those that stood on a fence and tacitly supported a very corrupt administration. 

[Brisketexan 104425]

History will not be kind to those that stood on a fence and tacitly supported a very corrupt administration. 

I’m not waiting for the history books. Get a jump on history, and say “fuck those assholes” today!

[Bozo_Casanova 26218]

15 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

At what fucking time have I EVER stated that I support challenging the citizenship of Americans?  

You said it in the only way that matters: you voted for it. 

[Brisketexan 104425]

You said it in the only way that matters: you voted for it. 

1000000000 times this.

[ndawg 1242]

Ag with Kids bringing one of the more impressive displays of cognitive dissonance I've seen on this board.

[SubliminalHorn 6643]

10 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

You said it in the only way that matters: you voted for it. 

Damn. This so much. I wish people understood how powerful their vote really is

[Chad Fuck 17501]

You said it in the only way that matters: you voted for it. 

Quoted for mother fucking truth.

[Ghost of LL 15347]

You said it in the only way that matters: you voted for it. 

I don’t have a clever rejoinder to that.


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[Larry T. Spider 1740]

3 hours ago, Ag with kids said:

Fuck you.  No I'm not.

But, keep on keeping on.  It helps me to realize that your opinion isn't worth much when you toss out blanket ad hominem like that.

 

Ted Cruz thinks you aren’t fit for having all those kids with your potty mouth.

[Guest]

Green party is looking good. Sheet cake is looking great.

[berlinerbaer 670]

3 hours ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

The moral GOP support of Trump has been reduced to viewing the president as Judge-Getter-In-Chief and ignoring the rest of his powers.  If they view the government that way, and they want those sorts of judges, there isn't much irrational with their support.  You'll see a lot of But Gorsuch!s for this reason.

 

Of course, I don't actually believe those people view the presidency as so limited, so I just end up thinking they are using the above rationale as a cover for the positions they hold that they are too embarrassed to admit.

They don't seem to realize that supreme court justices can be impeached.

Just sayin...

[Stilicho 1397]

3 hours ago, SubliminalHorn said:

History will not be kind to those that stood on a fence and tacitly supported a very corrupt administration. 

Here's hoping that there will be a history worth recording when all is said and done.

At our current rate, history will be nothing more than the acronym "MAGA" smeared in dried feces on the walls of a public bathroom somewhere outside of Shreveport.

[NIUHuskies 504]

3 minutes ago, Stilicho said:

Here's hoping that there will be a history worth recording when all is said and done.

At our current rate, history will be nothing more than the acronym "MAGA" smeared in dried feces on the walls of a public bathroom somewhere outside of Shreveport.

"The walls of a public bathroom somewhere outside of Shreveport" has to be written a country song.