Alex Jones

[BrickHorn 18166]

Aaaaaannnnnnddddd… Jones’s lawyers just announced in the Austin trial court, after a week of trial testimony, that Jones’s company has filed for bankruptcy. 

[BrickHorn 18166]

Jury question for plaintiffs expert: “Will you state on the record that you are not a lizard person working for the globalists?”

No shit. That’s a literal question the jury asked the judge to ask the witness. 

[BrickHorn 18166]

(To her credit, the judge declined to ask that one.)

[bolverk 29355]

3 hours ago, royiv said:

What restaurant in Austin is letting him broadcast his drivel from their establishment?

 

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Doesn’t look like it, but I would have said Chili’s, because holy fuck the alt-right/prepper crowd lost their shit during the pandemic when the Chili’s dining rooms were closed.   That and lack of access to SuperCuts seemed to have broken those people.  

Not the greatest screenshot, but blown up, it looks like the waitress's t-shirt just says "DINER."

[CrownKing 55]

Dripping Springs fo sho

[Sawbonz 27364]

8 hours ago, SizzleChest said:

Probably the other sense attached to the head.  

Taste?

[SizzleChest 8275]

2 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

Taste?

 

[Gil Bang 25857]

Right out of the Trump bullshit playbook

 

 

 

[Beau Vine 53949]

They're not really giving you free food if you dine and dash.

[tchookem 3900]

I hope it's something like this...

[Longhorn_Fan68 33816]

 

[Fastbreak 3944]

Aaaaaannnnnnddddd… Jones’s lawyers just announced in the Austin trial court, after a week of trial testimony, that Jones’s company has filed for bankruptcy. 

The party of personal responsibility.

Oh I’m sorry, the party of privatize gains and socialize losses…

[Born to Run 6482]

The party of infinitely delayed justice if you are an old white guy.

That's really the sum of the platform.

Black dude with a joint, any lady not wanting to carry her rapist's baby to term can go to jail with the quickness. Gay and want marriage rights? Fuck off. See this ladder I climbed up on? Fuck off. Go back to whatever land you've never been to....

[Nice Guy Eddie 13391]

How does bankruptcy protect him? Could he lose the case, face a large payment to the plaintiffs and get out of it due to the bankruptcy?

or will this just create future cases as the plaintiffs chase after Alex’s and his companies’ money? 

[Hookah Horns 3058]

On 7/29/2022 at 4:21 PM, SizzleChest said:

Probably the other sense attached to the head.  God help anyone that touched it.

Hopefully not taste. 

[SizzleChest 8275]

1 minute ago, Hookah Horns said:

Hopefully not taste. 

 

On 7/30/2022 at 1:18 AM, Sawbonz said:

Taste?

 

On 7/30/2022 at 4:09 AM, SizzleChest said:

 

 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13536]

Before morons like Joe Rogan go off on normalizing "he's more right than he's wrong" in the face of Alex's lawyers testifying under oath that he's a performer who lies on air, it bears repeating

And repeating

And repeating

And repeating

that if you've used your public platform to make tens of millions of dollars making parents who will have to endure the lifelong nightmarish  burden of dealing with murdered children, deal additionally with lunatics inflamed by your insanely moronic melodrama, you're a human piece of garbage. You're shit that needs to fertilize the soil. 

[Henry Hill 3156]

6 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

How does bankruptcy protect him? Could he lose the case, face a large payment to the plaintiffs and get out of it due to the bankruptcy?

or will this just create future cases as the plaintiffs chase after Alex’s and his companies’ money? 

It’s nature’s do-over. It’s a fresh start. It’s a clean slate.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13536]

Corporation Person and not a Person Person- equal under the law

[Chad Fuck 17501]

I’m guessing there’s some preferential/ fraudulent transfers to be found here. Just a hunch.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13536]

And repeating

"That may be the best argument available to Jones in defending the suit, but it also puts him once more in a position where his lawyers are arguing in court that the things he says during his broadcasts aren’t true—and, in fact, that any “reasonable reader or listener” would conclude that Jones, when he makes statements like “the green screen isn’t set right,” isn’t speaking factually. If Jones isn’t to be taken seriously when making statements like that, though, it becomes harder to understand what, exactly, Infowars is supposed to be informing its audience of."

2018

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/alex-joness-attorneys-defamation-suit-argue-no-reasonable-person-believe-says/

[TwiceHorn 31169]

12 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

How does bankruptcy protect him? Could he lose the case, face a large payment to the plaintiffs and get out of it due to the bankruptcy?

or will this just create future cases as the plaintiffs chase after Alex’s and his companies’ money? 

I believe that both he and the company are sued jointly and would be jointly and severally liable for the damages.

Either or both he and the company can file bankruptcy.  They didn't try it initially, because bankruptcy will have him and his company effectively working for the benefit of the plaintiffs for a long time, assuming a sizable damage award.  But it's preferable for Jones that the company file bankruptcy and not him, personally.

If the company were to file bankruptcy, the plaintiffs can still pursue him personally and take his shit.

The stunt in CT was an attempt to make the company solely liable for his actions so they couldn't pursue him personally if/when the company files bankruptcy.

Bankruptcy may temporarily, as in probably just a matter of days or weeks, postpone the Austin proceedings, but ultimately they will go forward, unless Jones agrees to entry of a satisfactorily large judgment.

In Chapter 11, Jones/the company will have to come up with a plan for repayment of all of their current debts, and some, including the judgment, might be reduced, as part of that plan.

When a large, publicly held corporation files Chapter 11, there are tons of debts, and bond and shareholder interests to consider, as well as any judgment debts like this.  I doubt that Jones or his company has any such debts, and the only shareholders are likely Jones and affiliates, so it's going to be really hard for him to avoid this judgment:  he and it can either liquidate completely, or work for the next 5-10 years paying it off.  Liquidate completely for Jones means a homestead, if not acquired recently, and 60,000 worth of personal property, if he's still married, 30k if not.

[TwiceHorn 31169]

1 hour ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

And repeating

"That may be the best argument available to Jones in defending the suit, but it also puts him once more in a position where his lawyers are arguing in court that the things he says during his broadcasts aren’t true—and, in fact, that any “reasonable reader or listener” would conclude that Jones, when he makes statements like “the green screen isn’t set right,” isn’t speaking factually. If Jones isn’t to be taken seriously when making statements like that, though, it becomes harder to understand what, exactly, Infowars is supposed to be informing its audience of."

2018

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/alex-joness-attorneys-defamation-suit-argue-no-reasonable-person-believe-says/

That's not on the table anymore.  Jones has been held liable for defamation and intentional infliction of emotional distress, guilty if you must (but you shouldn't), in both Texas and Connecticut.  The only issues remaining are how much damage the plaintiff sustained.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13536]

5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

That's not on the table anymore.  Jones has been held liable for defamation and intentional infliction of emotional distress, guilty if you must (but you shouldn't), in both Texas and Connecticut.  The only issues remaining are how much damage the plaintiff sustained.

Right. Years ago. Now he's funneled his gains to his family. Perhaps in his lifetime he will pay a price. 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13536]

...and really, with access to tens of millions, clear-eyed forecasting of lifespan, coke consumption, plausible average of judicial appeals/countersuits with a retainer morphine drip the average American will not have access to in a theocracy once all options are finally exhausted and one can choose to bounce this mortal coil and Alex finally has to answer "was it all worth it?"

 

[TwiceHorn 31169]

Jones' efforts to derail these litigations have been so clumsy and transparent, I rather highly doubt that he has effectively shielded his assets.

And the plaintiffs' attorneys have been pretty efficient and tenacious from what I've seen.

He's gonna pay.

[Cousin Strawberry 1261]

Jones' defense lawyer is dogshit.  He isn't eventually making an effort and he seems confused by procedure.

[Gatorubet 30050]

The bankruptcy judges I have dealt with will not take kindly to Jones’ habitual refusal to provide discovery.   And knowing US Trustees, I doubt Jones lying about his assets and dealings (which he will) will go over well. 

[RPM 26183]

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Jones' efforts to derail these litigations have been so clumsy and transparent, I rather highly doubt that he has effectively shielded his assets.

It's almost like he's an incompetent blowhard and doesn't know what he's doing.

[sidis 9709]

15 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

The bankruptcy judges I have dealt with will not take kindly to Jones’ habitual refusal to provide discovery.   And knowing US Trustees, I doubt Jones lying about his assets and dealings (which he will) will go over well. 

the idea of alex jones running his horseshit in front of judge isgur or judge jones in bankruptcy court has me laughing so fucking hard that i hope it actually works out.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13391]

I watched some of the testimony of a producer and one of his hosts. The judge was relatively angry with both. For the producer, she came unprepared to testify on certain topics even though she had been given a list of items for which she may testify.  For the hosts because he and Alex spoke about the trial on one of his shows last week even though the Jones attorney was told to prevent that.

The producer's main testimony was that the show barely vets guests and Jones will read any tweet or message with zero fact checking. They use the facebook excuse that it's too much work for them. And that their job is to produce/distribute information and that it's up to the audience to perform the due diligence or do-you-own-research tasks.

It's also no surprise that they blur the line between fact and opinion. The Jones show wants to consider everything an opinion. Example: 26 people were killed at Sandy Hook. That's not a fact, that's an opinion to them. 

[BrickHorn 18166]

5 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

The judge was relatively angry with both. For the producer, she came unprepared to testify on certain topics even though she had been given a list of items for which she may testify

This has been a running problem throughout the case, and one of the reasons the judge entered a default judgment against Jones on defamation liability. 

Daria (the witness you discuss above) was one of Free Speech Systems’ corporate representatives. That means she was designated as a witness on behalf of the company itself and was to testify as to what the company knows. Practically speaking, that means she can’t just rely on her own personal recollection but has to study up and learn what the company collectively knows about certain relevant topics. In other words, she has to study documents the company has, talk to people at the company who know things, watch videos the company published, etc. She didn’t do that. Neither did any of the previous corporate reps (including at least one other, Rob Dew). Basically FSS didn’t do its homework and showed up to its depo completely unprepared, the judge ordered FSS to go back and study and do it over again, it again didn’t prepare, yadda yadda… The judge finally had enough of that shit (and other discovery shenanigans) and ruled against those idiots by default.

[BrickHorn 18166]

And if you want to go back and hear some of the depos diced up with insightful and hilarious analysis, check out the Knowledge Fight podcast series of “Formulaic Objections” episodes. The hosts have been shredding Alex for years and bring their extensive knowledge of his bullshit to bear. The plaintiff’s lawyers also make occasional appearances. 

Edited August 1, 2022 by BrickHorn

[Nice Guy Eddie 13391]

3 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

This has been a running problem throughout the case, and one of the reasons the judge entered a default judgment against Jones on defamation liability. 

Daria (the witness you discuss above) was one of Free Speech Systems’ corporate representatives. That means she was designated as a witness on behalf of the company itself and was to testify as to what the company knows. Practically speaking, that means she can’t just rely on her own personal recollection but has to study up and learn what the company collectively knows about certain relevant topics. In other words, she has to study documents the company has, talk to people at the company who know things, watch videos the company published, etc. She didn’t do that. Neither did any of the previous corporate reps (including at least one other, Rob Dew). Basically FSS didn’t do its homework and showed up to its depo completely unprepared, the judge ordered FSS to go back and study and do it over again, it again didn’t prepare, yadda yadda… The judge finally had enough of that shit (and other discovery shenanigans) and ruled against those idiots by default.

It would be great to hear the conversations at FSS.

Attorney: The court has ordered Daria to testify on behalf of the company.

Alex: Sounds goods. She will spend time gathering that info.  (Attorney departs)

Alex: Fuck what the court wants. 

 

[Gil Bang 25857]

 

[Bullneck 18976]

On 7/29/2022 at 6:14 PM, BrickHorn said:

Jury question for plaintiffs expert: “Will you state on the record that you are not a lizard person working for the globalists?”

No shit. That’s a literal question the jury asked the judge to ask the witness. 

Is the gambit that if the request is denied the case is easier to appeal?

[Beau Vine 53949]

48 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

 

Maybe I'm wrong, but that seems like a terribly stupid thing to put out into the public record while you're being sued?

[Nice Guy Eddie 13391]

14 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Maybe I'm wrong, but that seems like a terribly stupid thing to put out into the public record while you're being sued?

Let me explain our legal strategy to prevent anyone from finding the money.

[ChiTownDoc 21090]

2 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

 

He’s gonna change his name then ask ‘who’s Alex Jones?!?!??’ when they come to collect.  And his audience will not be able to stop crowing about what a genius he is.  Although they won’t say stable genius because even those rubes know this nutjob is anything but stable.  

[Cousin Strawberry 1261]

I watched opening statement and the plaintiff attorney is solid. According to him, Jones realized  that the real money to be made was in grifting the rubes who listen to his show.  The best way to that was from selling supplements and pepper gear.  However, you can only get so much blood from a poor, uneducated turnip.  Thus he needed new listeners to grift and the best way to do this was by saying the most outrageous things possible. 

His original coverage of Sandy Hook called it a tragedy.  The reception to that coverage was pretty meh.  Then he turned it into a gun grab by Obama. That picked up steam.  So he kept pushing it and went into full hoax mode.  That went viral and he talked about it for the next 5 years.  He continued to talk about crises actors, no dead kids, parents were liars, the school wasn't even open at the time of the incident and the whole thing was staged.

He was still talking about hit in 2017 when no other media outlet was covering it.  

[TwiceHorn 31169]

2 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

 

It's also hilariously incorrect.

For the most part, your motive in taking legal actions, like filing bankruptcy or posting an appeal bond are irrelevant.  Filing an appeal bond is optional when you appeal a case, it isn't necessary.  You do it to stop collection of the judgment pending appeal.  Well, bankruptcy is also going to halt collections until judgment becomes final in that case.  So, he won't need to file an appeal bond at all, most likely.

However, bankruptcy supervises both collection efforts by creditors, and expenditures by the debtor, including transfers of money away from the debtor.  Going on record that your motive is to hinder or delay your creditors doesn't bode well for explaining to the bankruptcy court that your transfers for the past couple of years weren't fraudulent, or preferential, within the meaning of the applicable law.

Although bankruptcy provides an avenue for the wealthy to avoid their debts, Alex Jones and his lawyers are such colossal dumbshits that it's not going to help them at all.  My bold prediction.

Edited August 1, 2022 by TwiceHorn

[BrickHorn 18166]

2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

It's also hilariously incorrect.

For the most part, your motive in taking legal actions, like filing bankruptcy or posting an appeal bond are irrelevant.  Filing an appeal bond is optional when you appeal a case, it isn't necessary.  You do it to stop collection of the judgment pending appeal.  Well, bankruptcy is also going to halt collections until judgment becomes final in that case.  So, he won't need to file an appeal bond at all, most likely.

However, bankruptcy supervises both collection efforts by creditors, and expenditures by the debtor, including transfers of money away from the debtor.  Going on record that your motive is to hinder or delay your creditors doesn't bode well for explaining to the bankruptcy court that your transfers for the past couple of years weren't fraudulent, or preferential, within the meaning of the applicable law.

tl;dr: Alex is a dumbass.

[Neonmoon 38127]

1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

Going on record that your motive is to hinder or delay your creditors doesn't bode well for explaining to the bankruptcy court that your transfers for the past couple of years weren't fraudulent, or preferential, within the meaning of the applicable law.

There is zero chance Alex Jones knows that outgoing funds from his accounts in the past year can be clawed back. 

[TwiceHorn 31169]

Just now, BrickHorn said:

tl;dr: Alex is a dumbass.

Egg-zachary.

[TwiceHorn 31169]

3 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

There is zero chance Alex Jones knows that outgoing funds from his accounts in the past year can be clawed back. 

And, for up to four years, if his intention was to hinder or delay creditors

[TheStoicPaisano 9904]

 

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

Poor judge

[Brisketexan 104427]

The chances that Maya tosses his in the hoosegow for contempt have now risen well above 50%.  He won't be able to help himself.

[Beau Vine 53949]

11 minutes ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

 

[Biff Tannen 45470]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

The chances that Maya tosses his in the hoosegow for contempt have now risen well above 50%.  He won't be able to help himself.

+rep for hoosegow