Texas Recruiting Notes 2023: Strippers, Monkeys, and 5-Stars

[BornAndRaised 12,281]

1 minute ago, IDIOTsavant said:

Um, they have the best TE room in the country.

I haven't watched them at all this year, so legitimately, thank you for the information.

[Mitch Cumsteen 18,547]

3 minutes ago, BornAndRaised said:

Serious question, are either Bama or Georgia getting production out of their TE's like we are this year? I know USC was already discussed a bit above.

Brock Bowers is pretty ridiculous for Georgia. Best TE in college football. Even has 3 rushing TDs this season.

Receiving    Rushing    Scrimmage
Year    School    Conf    Class    Pos    G    Rec    Yds    Avg    TD    Att    Yds    Avg    TD    Plays    Yds    Avg    TD
2022    Georgia    SEC    SO    TE    6    22    378    17.2    2    3    82    27.3    3    25    460    18.4    5

 

[IDIOTsavant 8,483]

2 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Brock Bowers is pretty ridiculous for Georgia. Best TE in college football. Even has 3 rushing TDs this season.

Receiving    Rushing    Scrimmage
Year    School    Conf    Class    Pos    G    Rec    Yds    Avg    TD    Att    Yds    Avg    TD    Plays    Yds    Avg    TD
2022    Georgia    SEC    SO    TE    6    22    378    17.2    2    3    82    27.3    3    25    460    18.4    5

 

Darnell Washington is going in the top 2 rounds of the draft next spring as well. The freshman Delp is going to be quite good, and Arik Gilbert is floating around the periphery of the program if he can ever get his head screwed on straight.

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57 minutes ago, AP101S said:

He has his Covid year remaining. Here's what I'm tracking based on remaining eligibility. No idea what the actual freshman redshirt status is, so the gray shaded cells might be off. Also, the first team/second team stuff is probably out of date as well.

If we think about this in terms of attrition after this season, here's what I see/think:

-The 5 "seniors" are truly gone. 

-Of the "juniors", I assume the majority are gone as well. Let's say Keilan Robinson and Christian Jones stay for one more season. That's 11 scholarship players leaving.

-The "sophomores" will have several kinds of attrition: 1) NFL - BRobinson, Whittington, and Collins. 2) Transfer for PT - Card (GT), Liebrock, a safety. So 6 in all.

-Worthy and Sanders cannot go pro.

-Attrition candidates due to PT (trapdooring also) in the freshman ranks - Wright, Omeire, Hall (watching this guy up close on Saturday and the fact that he didn't get into the game, no way he's back), Alexis, Goram-Welch, Parr, Merril, Harris Jr., Pearson, Ibraheem, Turner-Gooden.

-Garth is already gone.

That's easily 25 spots for the next class and, frankly, I expect 30-35 to open up. They'll move the floor higher with the new class and transfers than what the 2021 guys helped provide, which is where a lot of attrition will come from that isn't eligibility, NFL, or GT. 

In short, nobody should be worrying about the fucking numbers. We'll sign 25-30 guys and add 5-7 transfer of high value. 

This also presumes sufficient funding in NIL to both retain talent and attract talent in the portal.

Also also, for anyone not paying attention and for those who whined at me a few weeks ago about me saying that the WR room is going to need help from both the transfer portal and the recruiting class, yeah, they're going to need 5 guys and to also pay XW another big deal. We really, really need Neyor to get healthy and stay at Texas for 2023. I was glad to see him at the game on Saturday, but that one is shaky right up until fall 2023 practice.

Edited October 10, 2022 by closetojumping
removed the notion that Watts isn't draft eligible

[Hornlover 8,829]

10 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Brock Bowers is pretty ridiculous for Georgia. Best TE in college football. Even has 3 rushing TDs this season.

Receiving    Rushing    Scrimmage
Year    School    Conf    Class    Pos    G    Rec    Yds    Avg    TD    Att    Yds    Avg    TD    Plays    Yds    Avg    TD
2022    Georgia    SEC    SO    TE    6    22    378    17.2    2    3    82    27.3    3    25    460    18.4    5

 

Brock Bowers
6    22    378    17.2    2    3    82    27.3    3    25    460    18.4    5
J'Tavion Sanders
6    25    283    11.3    5    0    0        0       0    25    283    11.3    5

Take away the rushing yards, and JT is very close to Bowers.

[NoName 16,351]

13 minutes ago, BornAndRaised said:

I haven't watched them at all this year, so legitimately, thank you for the information.

they had 3 dudes on the John Mackey award list including probably the best TE in CFB in Brock Bowers. Washington is a monster. Gilbert is an incredible talent.

[closetojumping 62,579]

4 minutes ago, Hornlover said:

Brock Bowers
6    22    378    17.2    2    3    82    27.3    3    25    460    18.4    5
J'Tavion Sanders
6    25    283    11.3    5    0    0        0       0    25    283    11.3    5

Take away the rushing yards, and JT is very close to Bowers.

I think Sanders is on a trajectory towards being a 1st round pick in 2024. I think his numbers are currently suppressed by not having Ewers for 4 games. If he had Ewers for all of Bama plus the next 3, I think the dude is sitting at something close to 40 receptions and 8-12 touchdowns already. Any defense that attempts to bracket Worthy and spy Robinson is basically saying "sure, let your TE and other WRs beat us" and we can now say "Ok" and fuck them up. Sanders is also turning into a terrific blocker. 

Bowers and Sanders will both be eligible to be drafted in the 2024 draft. It should be interesting to see how closely they're compared by that time and where each goes in the draft if they can both stay healthy.

[Dbeasy 15,042]

The deal with Vasek is that Texas didn’t prioritize him early, made a few mistakes on how one of the recruiting coaches talked with him, and as a result he soured on the program. Texas has been trying to work their way back from those mistakes. Until Saturday I didn’t think the odds looked very good. But Saturday was such a shit show for OU, maybe he looks again at Texas and Tech. 

[HenryJames 66,038]

1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

My understanding is that he read all of the comments about him from @HenryJames on this thread and soured on Texas accordingly. 

If he thinks I'm mean, wait until he has to line up over Kelvin Banks for two years.

[HtownHorn 14,673]

15 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I think Sanders is on a trajectory towards being a 1st round pick in 2024. I think his numbers are currently suppressed by not having Ewers for 4 games. If he had Ewers for all of Bama plus the next 3, I think the dude is sitting at something close to 40 receptions and 8-12 touchdowns already. Any defense that attempts to bracket Worthy and spy Robinson is basically saying "sure, let your TE and other WRs beat us" and we can now say "Ok" and fuck them up. Sanders is also turning into a terrific blocker. 

Bowers and Sanders will both be eligible to be drafted in the 2024 draft. It should be interesting to see how closely they're compared by that time and where each goes in the draft if they can both stay healthy.

The one thing that impressed me with Sanders was after his 1st catch, he turned the corner and was gone. Didn't think he had that type of speed. Going to be interesting to see how Sanders, Billingsley, and Whittington tear open the intermediate seems in ISU's cover 3 on Saturday.

[Atticus 3,973]

Watts is draft eligible after this season. We need him back as well. 

[closetojumping 62,579]

1 minute ago, Atticus said:

Watts is draft eligible after this season. We need him back as well. 

Good fact check. I don't know why I was thinking he was a 2021 guy. Edited the prior post for accuracy.

[Red Five 40,847]

IT just put out a Recruiting Notebook deal on Vasek. 

Not my line, but the headline when he switches should really include the word Vasektomy. 

[pacman 7,355]

Looking forward to the finish of this class.

Edited October 10, 2022 by pacman

[stork642 4,498]

12 minutes ago, pacman said:

Looking forward to the finish of this class.

A Vasektomy usually makes for a happy ending.  

Edited October 10, 2022 by stork642

[LCHorn 2,615]

2 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

The deal with Vasek is that Texas didn’t prioritize him early, made a few mistakes on how one of the recruiting coaches talked with him, and as a result he soured on the program. Texas has been trying to work their way back from those mistakes. Until Saturday I didn’t think the odds looked very good. But Saturday was such a shit show for OU, maybe he looks again at Texas and Tech. 

Yeah, I don’t buy it.  A Longhorn legacy that lives in Westlake doesn’t commit to OU except as the most gigantic “fuck you” to his parents that he can imagine.  
 

If he wanted to get out a bit he could have gone to Oregon.  

[Dbeasy 15,042]

9 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

Yeah, I don’t buy it.  A Longhorn legacy that lives in Westlake doesn’t commit to OU except as the most gigantic “fuck you” to his parents that he can imagine.  
 

If he wanted to get out a bit he could have gone to Oregon.  

I just explained to you what happened. I don’t follow your comments. It wasn’t an FU to his parents. This isn’t opinion. It’s fact. 

[Codaxx 5,731]

3 hours ago, closetojumping said:

If we think about this in terms of attrition after this season, here's what I see/think:

-The 5 "seniors" are truly gone. 

-Of the "juniors", I assume the majority are gone as well. Let's say Keilan Robinson and Christian Jones stay for one more season. That's 11 scholarship players leaving.

-The "sophomores" will have several kinds of attrition: 1) NFL - BRobinson, Whittington, and Collins. 2) Transfer for PT - Card (GT), Liebrock, a safety. So 6 in all.

-Worthy and Sanders cannot go pro.

-Attrition candidates due to PT (trapdooring also) in the freshman ranks - Wright, Omeire, Hall (watching this guy up close on Saturday and the fact that he didn't get into the game, no way he's back), Alexis, Goram-Welch, Parr, Merril, Harris Jr., Pearson, Ibraheem, Turner-Gooden.

-Garth is already gone.

That's easily 25 spots for the next class and, frankly, I expect 30-35 to open up. They'll move the floor higher with the new class and transfers than what the 2021 guys helped provide, which is where a lot of attrition will come from that isn't eligibility, NFL, or GT. 

In short, nobody should be worrying about the fucking numbers. We'll sign 25-30 guys and add 5-7 transfer of high value. 

This also presumes sufficient funding in NIL to both retain talent and attract talent in the portal.

Also also, for anyone not paying attention and for those who whined at me a few weeks ago about me saying that the WR room is going to need help from both the transfer portal and the recruiting class, yeah, they're going to need 5 guys and to also pay XW another big deal. We really, really need Neyor to get healthy and stay at Texas for 2023. I was glad to see him at the game on Saturday, but that one is shaky right up until fall 2023 practice.

Collins???

[Shaggyhorn 641]

https://www.on3.com/teams/texas-longhorns/news/texas-commitment-has-game-for-the-ages/

Walton ️️️ is looking like a steal.

[closetojumping 62,579]

5 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Collins???

I assume he’s gone and hadn’t heard he’s graduating. If you want to get didactic and make sure we know he’s unlikely to go to the NFL, have at it. 

[cmontexas 3,270]

6 hours ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

I'm sure it's been discussed but, what's the deal with Vasek?  Legacy, from Austin, friends on the team, OU sucks, etc.  And, it's not as if he's picking a school for a specific reason like major or awesome defensive coach.

His dad has him going undercover to get inside info on the OU program before transferring back home after a year

A sample of the information: OU sucks

[Post Oak 20,209]

GH said on the pod today that if Vasek isn't all in on being at Texas and he's just looking for an OU off ramp he's not worth the take.  

The guys who aren't at Texas because they love Texas hurt your culture.  

I'm sure a few are fine but you don't want a bunch of them.

[Longhornlove 4,810]

4 hours ago, closetojumping said:

If we think about this in terms of attrition after this season, here's what I see/think:

-The 5 "seniors" are truly gone. 

-Of the "juniors", I assume the majority are gone as well. Let's say Keilan Robinson and Christian Jones stay for one more season. That's 11 scholarship players leaving.

-The "sophomores" will have several kinds of attrition: 1) NFL - BRobinson, Whittington, and Collins. 2) Transfer for PT - Card (GT), Liebrock, a safety. So 6 in all.

-Worthy and Sanders cannot go pro.

-Attrition candidates due to PT (trapdooring also) in the freshman ranks - Wright, Omeire, Hall (watching this guy up close on Saturday and the fact that he didn't get into the game, no way he's back), Alexis, Goram-Welch, Parr, Merril, Harris Jr., Pearson, Ibraheem, Turner-Gooden.

-Garth is already gone.

That's easily 25 spots for the next class and, frankly, I expect 30-35 to open up. They'll move the floor higher with the new class and transfers than what the 2021 guys helped provide, which is where a lot of attrition will come from that isn't eligibility, NFL, or GT. 

In short, nobody should be worrying about the fucking numbers. We'll sign 25-30 guys and add 5-7 transfer of high value. 

This also presumes sufficient funding in NIL to both retain talent and attract talent in the portal.

Also also, for anyone not paying attention and for those who whined at me a few weeks ago about me saying that the WR room is going to need help from both the transfer portal and the recruiting class, yeah, they're going to need 5 guys and to also pay XW another big deal. We really, really need Neyor to get healthy and stay at Texas for 2023. I was glad to see him at the game on Saturday, but that one is shaky right up until fall 2023 practice.

GH stated in a video that Texas is going to the portal for 2 wide receivers. He is aware of 2 specific high profile guys that are interested.

[Wishbone 4,759]

On 10/8/2022 at 6:07 PM, crash_davis said:

i bet that motherfucker is high as a kite, nekkid and playing the banjos.

It was bongo’s.

[Michael Knight 12,977]

22 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

GH stated in a video that Texas is going to the portal for 2 wide receivers. He is aware of 2 specific high profile guys that are interested.

How specific 

[Longhornlove 4,810]

2 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

How specific 

He said some people would know who they are, I didn't connect the dots. He mentioned there were previous rumors. 

[mvlonghorns 285]

Luther Burden has to be one of the guys we are going to make a run at, though that will certainly be a national slugfest as has already been alluded in this thread.

[Happy Gilmore 1,001]

7 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

He said some people would know who they are, I didn't connect the dots. He mentioned there were previous rumors. 

Kayshon Boutte might be one to watch. He's not having a good time at all. But he may bet on himself and hit the league.

Edited October 10, 2022 by Happy Gilmore

[Codaxx 5,731]

1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

I assume he’s gone and hadn’t heard he’s graduating. If you want to get didactic and make sure we know he’s unlikely to go to the NFL, have at it. 

I just assumed he was back. smSurprised to see his name 

[UnhappilyMarried 815]

1 hour ago, Post Oak said:

GH said on the pod today that if Vasek isn't all in on being at Texas and he's just looking for an OU off ramp he's not worth the take.  

The guys who aren't at Texas because they love Texas hurt your culture.  

I'm sure a few are fine but you don't want a bunch of them.

Whatever helps him get over that we prioritized Shelby if that’s the issue. I have a hard time believing a local legacy who’s been a fan his entire life would be a culture drag. 

[UnhappilyMarried 815]

13 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

Kayshon Boutte might be one to watch. He's not having a good time at all. But he may bet on himself and hit the league.

I would be surprised if any WR transfer candidates are older than 2nd year sophomores. They’re usually ready to bolt as soon as they’re eligible, especially the caliber we’d be targeting to upgrade the room

[MuellerHorn 4,228]

1 hour ago, Longhornlove said:

He said some people would know who they are, I didn't connect the dots. He mentioned there were previous rumors. 

AWWWWWWWW SHIT. We're finally getting Waddle! All of his QBs are hurt, after all.

[Dr. Teeth 5,844]

Aunt Jen is letting Lache unretire. 

[crum 525]

not to fuel the fire on Burden, but outside of Texas commits he's one of the few people Arch Manning has started following on Instagram recently. the kid is a recruiter

[Vermin 3,043]

3 hours ago, Post Oak said:

GH said on the pod today that if Vasek isn't all in on being at Texas and he's just looking for an OU off ramp he's not worth the take.  

The guys who aren't at Texas because they love Texas hurt your culture.  

I'm sure a few are fine but you don't want a bunch of them.

USC brought in a bunch of mercs and went from 4-8 to 6-0. I understand avoiding locker room cancers, but that's too extreme.

[CHIEF 5,079]

Mims and Stewart. Both have to be saying, "fuck this."

CHIEF

[totallynotabuttpirate 5,395]

1 minute ago, Vermin said:

USC brought in a bunch of mercs and went from 4-8 to 6-0. I understand avoiding locker room cancers, but that's too extreme.

That's a bit of an oversimplification. They went from a dogshit coach to a very good one that brought a QB and WRs with him. 

[Vertigo 20,276]

12 minutes ago, CHIEF said:

Mims and Stewart. Both have to be saying, "fuck this."

CHIEF

I would take both if I am being honest. If we took Hall, we would take Stewart. Mims needs a hostage negotiator called in.

Edited October 11, 2022 by Vertigo

[HenryJames 66,038]

Drake Stoops got more touches than Mims on Saturday.

[utexas8 1,436]

Wrong thread

[Lonestar88 4,637]

32 minutes ago, Vermin said:

USC brought in a bunch of mercs and went from 4-8 to 6-0. I understand avoiding locker room cancers, but that's too extreme.

I think the point is that Vasek isn’t good enough to justify taking that risk. People were debating if he was a take even when they thought he was all in. 
 

21 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

I would take both if I am being honest. If we took Hall, we would take Stewart. Mims needs a hostage negotiator called in.

Difference is Stewart personally affronted Sark and the rest of the staff. Hall has a boatload of issues, but there was nothing personal with anyone on the team.

[JesusSweatDuck 17,781]

24 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

I would take both if I am being honest. If we took Hall, we would take Stewart. Mims needs a hostage negotiator called in.

It was mentioned earlier but Sark grew tired of Stewart's bullshit and soured on him at the end. Doubtful he'd invite him back

[Getafix 28,578]

9 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Drake Stoops got more touches than Mims on Saturday.

 

Mims had more yards when he entered the Cotton Bowl on Saturday, than he did when he left.  

 

 

[Hiphopopotamos 20,869]

1 hour ago, crum said:

not to fuel the fire on Burden, but outside of Texas commits he's one of the few people Arch Manning has started following on Instagram recently. the kid is a recruiter

I have watched zero snaps of Missouri football - but how the hell is that kid only averaging 6 yards a catch?

[Funk Doctor Spock 12,183]

Maybe Sark is trying to lure Bru Mccoy back in. Did you ever think of that???? Huh??? He and Burden! LFG! 

 

Jk for the dipshits who actually think I'm being serious on Mccoy.

[Hornius Emeritus 12,456]

1 hour ago, MuellerHorn said:

AWWWWWWWW SHIT. We're finally getting Waddle! All of his QBs are hurt, after all.

Quinn keeps throwing like this Waddle may come back from the NFL.😄

Seriously, we should have our pick of receivers if he keeps going like this.

[Funk Doctor Spock 12,183]

Quinn even has Alabama fans on his nuts. There's this YouTube channel called MattBeGreat who was shitting all over Quinn before the season, and now the dude said recently after the ou game that Quinn and Texas could beat anybody in the country and should be top 10, and that we're 22 tied with Kentucky is fucking bullshit (his words). He became a believer after the Bama game. 

[Henry Hill 3,156]

24 minutes ago, Spider2YBanana said:

Maybe Sark is trying to lure Bru Mccoy back in. Did you ever think of that???? Huh??? He and Burden! LFG! 

 

Jk for the dipshits who actually think I'm being serious on Mccoy.

[Scholz 11,940]

54 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Drake Stoops

Douchebag name for a mouthy douchebag 

[Hank_Hill 18,801]

Mims is a good guess and one I’d be happy with