Texas Recruiting Notes 2023: Strippers, Monkeys, and 5-Stars

[IDIOTsavant 8493]

9 minutes ago, warhorn8 said:

Weird that Moore is slow at 10.9 and Johntay is considered fast even though he has no verified times and his jumps aren't just outstanding....

And I'm not say Johntay is slow, he looks fast as heck on the field. Just weird that it hasn't been brought up.

Even if we don’t have any verified times, the head to head race with Evan Stewart on YouTube was a pretty solid data point that he’s fast as shit.

[Herbie Hancock 7357]

Weird that Moore is slow at 10.9 and Johntay is considered fast even though he has no verified times and his jumps aren't just outstanding....

And I'm not say Johntay is slow, he looks fast as heck on the field. Just weird that it hasn't been brought up.

Maybe it hasn’t been brought up because it’s a stupid thing to say out loud and everyone knows it? Well, almost everyone

[Doc Daneeka 6769]

12 minutes ago, warhorn8 said:

Weird that Moore is slow at 10.9 and Johntay is considered fast even though he has no verified times and his jumps aren't just outstanding....

And I'm not say Johntay is slow, he looks fast as heck on the field. Just weird that it hasn't been brought up.

When he gets run down from behind like Pittman against Ohio State, it might make sense to question Moore’s speed. Until then, he seems reasonably fast. 

[warhorn8 12]

Even if we don’t have any verified times, the head to head race with Evan Stewart on YouTube was a pretty solid data point that he’s fast as shit.

Forgot about that.

[TonyTexas 10515]

39 minutes ago, futureman said:

Muslim, Hindu.  Basically the same thing. 

Being Hindu is a good reason why nobody should listen to satyanash when it comes to football. However, I’m all ears when he talks about cricket.  

[texifornia 56977]

1 minute ago, TonyTexas said:

Being Hindu is a good reason why nobody should listen to satyanash when it comes to football. However, I’m all ears when he talks about cricket.  

[MuellerHorn 4256]

7 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Being Hindu is a good reason why nobody should listen to satyanash when it comes to football. However, I’m all ears when he talks about cricket.  

I guess we won’t see satya’s takes on chicken fried steak either. 

[TonyTexas 10515]

10 minutes ago, texifornia said:

At least Hindus have a sense of humor 

On 12/21/2022 at 5:52 PM, satyanash said:

Obviously.

<insert cow/IT/caste jokes>

 

[Saint Tacky 1614]

9 hours ago, C-Man said:

Early 80's Redskins had the Smurfs.

They also had Art Monk and the "Fun Bunch."

Don't sell yourself short, @closetojumping. You're a tremendous slouch.

[TrashMaster G 17558]

2 hours ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

But hey, Moore is slow apparently

 

 

 

That video is absurd.

[Doc Daneeka 6769]

4 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

That video is absurd.

My math may be off but it looks like he made up about six yards over a little over 50.

[Getafix 28674]

9 minutes ago, Doc Daneeka said:

My math may be off but it looks like he made up about six yards over a little over 50.

 

 

 

[Post Oak 20239]

Anybody got this?

 

[Reese Bennett 3614]

15 minutes ago, Doc Daneeka said:

My math may be off but it looks like he made up about six yards over a little over 50.

Looks closer to 5, but the angle adds a few more.

[Bodacious Bevo 3584]

2 hours ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

But hey, Moore is slow apparently

 

 

 

Love it. Throwback to this classic

 

[futureman 22472]

more like 

 

[Bodacious Bevo 3584]

10 minutes ago, Reese Bennett said:

Looks closer to 5, but the angle adds a few more.

Moore enters at the 30ish with the other guy at the 33ish. Pushes him out at the 12. Angle adds 3.78 (triangle would be 51 yards along sideline and he's about 20 yards inside (if hashes are 18 yards in)). We don't know where the pursuit actually started though. So let's call it 7 yards. 

Edited December 23, 2022 by Bodacious Bevo

[OU Sucks 8852]

2 hours ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

But hey, Moore is slow apparently

 

 

 

Shades of BJ Foster getting in the way of another defender trying to make the tackle in this clip

[sith_horn 2406]

4 hours ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

4 hours ago, closetojumping said:

“If you’re good at something, never do it for free. “ 

South Austin's mom didn't get the memo

She be a gett'n it fer free; ergo, she be paid in like kind.

[Doc Daneeka 6769]

43 minutes ago, Reese Bennett said:

Looks closer to 5, but the angle adds a few more.

So, he made up about 6 yards… though I was only counting from the time they highlighted him on the video. 

Hash to sideline is 53” and the other side of the right triangle is about 54 yards, again, depending on when you start counting. 

Regardless, he took a nice angle and chased him down.

[Vertigo 20290]

39 minutes ago, Bodacious Bevo said:

Moore enters at the 30ish with the other guy at the 33ish. Pushes him out at the 12. Angle adds 3.78 (triangle would be 51 yards along sideline and he's about 20 yards inside (if hashes are 18 yards in)). We don't know where the pursuit actually started though. So let's call it 7 yards. 

[Vito Andolini 9126]

41 minutes ago, Bodacious Bevo said:

Moore enters at the 30ish with the other guy at the 33ish. Pushes him out at the 12. Angle adds 3.78 (triangle would be 51 yards along sideline and he's about 20 yards inside (if hashes are 18 yards in)). We don't know where the pursuit actually started though. So let's call it 7 yards. 

[TexasRenegade 2447]

[Doc Daneeka 6769]

51 minutes ago, Bodacious Bevo said:

Love it. Throwback to this classic

 

“If i had dogged it, I’d had to have lived with it myself.”

You could do worse than 85 guys like that. 

[Fumbles 299]

Alright, we got offense out of the way, let's take stock of the defensive side of the 2023 class.

Defensive Linemen - Sydir Mitchell

Misses - David Hicks, Hunter Osborne, Markis Deal, Roderick Pierce, Dylan Spencer

Sydir Mitchell is a goddamn beast with a rare skillset.  Watch this senior tape:  3x State Champ. Senior Year - Sydir Mitchell highlights - Hudl.  When I see a kid listed at 6'5", 340 pounds playing in New Jersey, I expect to see him throwing opponents around like Godzilla swatting airplanes out of the sky.  And Sydir is most definitely physically outclassing everyone on the field, but look at how he's beating those kids.  He's not just bull-rushing straight through overmatched opponents, he's using his hands to beat attempted blocks and flashing a lot of acceleration once he's won initial contact.  Check out the spin move at 1:00, look at that swim at 1:32, look at the way he sheds the run block at 2:46.  The only question I have is does he have the conditioning to give us 30-40 snaps at that level per game?  If so, that's first round talent.

I do wish we had picked up one more interior guy, but we loaded up on big bodies in 2022 and we got the best guy on our board.  I think the staff prioritized scholarships elsewhere, namely....

Edge - Tausili Akana, Colton Vasek, Derion Gullette, Billy Walton

Misses - Braylan Shelby

Holy shit, you think the coaches noticed we have a pass-rush problem?

I love Tausili Akana.  His senior film dropped about two weeks ago:  senior season - Tausili Akana highlights - Hudl.  First step, closing speed, length and frame, it's all there.  Also, dude is just hype all the time, popping right up after he makes a play, flexing, shit-talking.  Check him out after the sack at 3:15.  Yeah, let him fucking know about it, Tausili.  I've heard criticism that he's 19 and therefore "physically maximized," which is absurd.  Jerrin Thompson and Jaylan Ford got run over by Kansas as 19 year-old sophomores, one year later they look like completely different players.  Everyone has their own developmental curve and we won't know Akana's until he gets on campus, but he's got all the tools to be an elite rusher.

Vasek isn't as quite as quick as Akana, but he's better at taking on blocks and he's relentless.  Colton Vasek 4-0 Highlights - Colton Vasek highlights - Hudl.  Check out the clip at 0:08, he spins off the tackle AND swims the running back in the same play.  That's a technically proficient, high-motor player.

Derion Gullette's classification as "Edge" makes me feel like I'm taking crazy pills.  Am I wrong in assuming that "edge" means at least sometimes playing on the line with an expectation of taking on blocks?  Is everyone else just better than me at projecting Gullette's skills to a different position in college?  Whatever, here's his junior film:  ⭐️Junior Season Defensive Highlights⭐️ - Derion Gullette highlights - Hudl.  I see a guy playing exclusively off-ball linebacker and doing it rather fucking well.  He's lining up outside in coverage, he's comfortable playing in space, he's clearly got fantastic sideline-to-sideline speed (and hopefully still does post-knee injury).  I don't see a whole lot of taking on blocks, pass-rushing moves, or setting the edge.  Wherever he ends up playing, I'm glad we have him.

I like Billy Walton.  Billy Walton Senior Highlights - Billy Walton highlights - Hudl.  He doesn't have any one elite characteristic, he's just above-average-to-good at everything.  He's the kind of player that Oklahoma State, TCU, and Baylor regularly turn into All-Big 12 selections.  If he's willing to develop and wait to earn his snaps, I think he can be a solid contributor as an upperclassman.  Could we have let Walton go to Oklahoma State or wherever and circled back in the portal in 3 years if he panned out?  Maybe, but Walton's good enough that I don't feel bad about this take.    

This is a fantastic edge class.  Missing on Shelby sucks because I think he's fantastic, but I like Akana even better and who could complain about this embarrassment of riches?  Speaking of riches...

Linebacker - Anthony Hill, S'Maje Burrell, Liona Lefau

Misses - Not a Damn One

PRAISE BE!  There is only one LB Coach, who's true name is Choate, and Jaylan Ford is His prophet.  I'm so happy that we have legitimately good, fundamentally sound linebacker play in Texas again.  We're not just bringing in world-class athletes and telling them to go chase the ball.  Malik, you deserved so much better.  Anyway, the croots!

Anthony Hill.  2022 Highlights. Only 6 Games Played - Anthony Hill Jr. highlights - Hudl.  No, one is not enough.  Take his junior highlights too.  2021 Highlights - Anthony Hill Jr. highlights - Hudl.  He's elite at all the basic things, he has great closing speed, great size, he generates turnovers at a Ford-esque rate.  He's wrapping up well, taking great angles to the ball carrier, moving decisively.  In his senior film, he's making a lot of those plays after getting off of a block, which is a huge skill to learn for an off-ball linebacker.  He's a day 1 starter beside Jaylan Ford.

I love S'Maje Burrell as a compliment to Anthony Hill, but also as a player in his own right.  Non District Highlights - S’Maje Burrell highlights - Hudl.  Look at that beautiful drop back into zone coverage at 00:35.  You think we could have used that on a few third downs this year?  Gimme.  

Liona Lefau's tape is even better than Burrell's (though in fairness, Burrell's longest montage is from a few games and this is Lefau's full senior season).  SR Highlights - Liona Lefau highlights - Hudl.  He's laying guys out, running in stride with receivers in coverage, taking on and shedding blocks, and he looks even bigger than his listed 215 to me.  Or maybe everyone else is just smaller.  It is Hawaii, not exactly a competitive area for high school football.  Still, that's a damn fine highlight reel.

Anthony Hill is arguably the best LB prospect we've ever recruited to Texas in my lifetime and, top to bottom, this is without question the best LB class I have ever seen come to Texas.

Secondary - Malik Muhammad, Derek Williams

Misses - Peyton Bowen, Javien Toviano

It's always hard to judge a cornerback by a highlight reel because, by the nature of the position, you doing your job means the quarterback looks somewhere else and the play never comes your way.  And who's gonna make a clip of that?  Still, there's a lot of positives to see in Malik Muhammad's junior tape:  Malik Muhammad Highlights - Malik Muhammad highlights - Hudl.  I think my favorite clip is at 1:31, that's a nice pop for a guy listed generously at 175.  He shows soft hands and obvious deep speed as a wide receiver.  In the few clips we have of his senior season so far, he's constantly playing tight man and running right with his guy:  Malik Muhammad Senior Highlights - Malik Muhammad highlights - Hudl.  I love how close he starts the play at 00:10, practically in the neutral zone.  He sure as shit isn't afraid of anyone running past him.  

Derek Williams is a classic alley-filling strong safety.  Derek Willaims Junior Year - Derek Williams highlights - Hudl.  The athleticism jumps right off the screen in his running back highlights, Williams certainly does not lack for short area acceleration or top end speed.  His safety clips show a player very comfortable moving forward and getting physical with the ball carrier.  I do worry that we don't see a whole lot of coverage in these highlights.  00:36 shows a nice press man moment (although if you're wearing burnt orange in the Big 12, that's a defensive holding flag) and there are a few other moments in there, but nothing showing his ability to track deep balls, run with his man, or transition from backpedal to sprint.  But he definitely has the speed, size, and ill temperament to be a terrifying enforcer in the middle of the field.

Including Peyton Bowen as a miss is admittedly a stretch, we were never really in it for him and there's the whole signing day drama.  But oh man, can that kid ball.  After Jalen Hale, missing out on Bowen is the biggest miss of this class. He's a deep safety with elite coverage skills and incredible speed for a guy his size.  We do not have that skillset on campus right now and we could really use it.  Javien Toviano isn't as good as Malik Muhammad, but he's got the size to play safety or corner and that positional versatility would have been a great addition to the class.  

Overall thoughts on the 2023 Defensive Class

Excellent defensive class top to bottom.  We aggressively addressed our roster needs with top tier talent and numbers.  And we didn't settle for the low-hanging fruit.  Previous staffs would have taken guys like Markis Deal, Dylan Spencer, and Jamel Johnson and wondered why we look like a bunch of JAGs on defense in 2025.  This staff identified Sydir Mitchell as a rising star in New Jersey and beat Georgia head-to-head for him.  This staff closed Anthony Hill.  This staff went into the Bayou and poached Derek Williams.  I love it.  I do wish we had added one more safety with established coverage skills, but hey, that's what the portal is for.  

[Hiphopopotamos 20875]

 

[utfan87 408]

13 hours ago, futureman said:

Duce has been in for a while. 

You’ve been saying this for a while. What do you know? Please disclose 

[DeweyCox 366]

1 minute ago, utfan87 said:

You’ve been saying this for a while. What do you know? Please disclose 

He knows the future, man.

[nycHorn 3034]

You’ve been saying this for a while. What do you know? Please disclose 

[Vertigo 20290]

3 minutes ago, utfan87 said:

You’ve been saying this for a while. What do you know? Please disclose 

 

[Pato del Muerto 52508]

18 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

 

Surprise, the morons in the comments think Eli is giving out that advice to all incoming college athletes, and not specifically to his nephew. 

[hookemATL 11741]

5 minutes ago, utfan87 said:

You’ve been saying this for a while. What do you know? Please disclose 

Do your homework and please memorize the schtick of all posters. It’s not hard. 

[C-Man 27230]

2 hours ago, Saint Tacky said:

They also had Art Monk and the "Fun Bunch."

Don't sell yourself short, @closetojumping. You're a tremendous slouch.

Correct, the "Smurfs" were a smaller group within the "Fun Bunch." Alvin Garrett, Charlie Brown and ??? were the Smurfs.

[tejas60 3533]

2 hours ago, MuellerHorn said:

I guess we won’t see satya’s takes on chicken fried steak either. 

Hindus don't eat chicken?

[Michael Knight 12985]

15 minutes ago, utfan87 said:

You’ve been saying this for a while. What do you know? Please disclose 

Don't do this

[Sgt Hulk 13765]

If Duce doesn’t sign here. Future man will fist his own ass

[Michael Knight 12985]

12 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Surprise, the morons in the comments think Eli is giving out that advice to all incoming college athletes, and not specifically to his nephew. 

I mean the advice is focus on getting better, focus on growing up and don't get distracted by the other shit. Not every recruit has that privilege of course

[futureman 22472]

19 minutes ago, utfan87 said:

You’ve been saying this for a while. What do you know? Please disclose 

contrary to the other posters on this site, who are uninformed and making ignorant guesses, I know the dad. today it’s texas. will be texas. anyone who says otherwise doesn’t know what I know. 

[IDIOTsavant 8493]

18 minutes ago, hookemATL said:

Do your homework and please memorize the schtick of all posters. It’s not hard. 

 

[Harrison Stafford 3335]

23 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Correct, the "Smurfs" were a smaller group within the "Fun Bunch." Alvin Garrett, Charlie Brown and ??? were the Smurfs.

Virgil Seay was the other member of the Smurfs.

[Mother mopar 3319]

You’ve been saying this for a while. What do you know? Please disclose 

Stop quoting this asshat.

[TrashMaster G 17558]

1 hour ago, futureman said:

contrary to the other posters on this site, who are uninformed and making ignorant guesses, I know the dad. today it’s texas. will be texas. anyone who says otherwise doesn’t know what I know. 

"The dad"?  Is that like Peter McCallister, the father?

[HenryJames 66082]

1 hour ago, futureman said:

anyone who says otherwise doesn’t know what I know. 

The inside of your own ass?

[Junior Bonner 6257]

I have that motherfucker on fucking ignore for a fucking reason. So please fucking stop quoting that motherfucker you fucking morons. 

Thank you. 

[honolulu horn 6164]

4 minutes ago, Junior Bonner said:

I have that motherfucker on fucking ignore for a fucking reason. So please fucking stop quoting that motherfucker you fucking morons. 

Thank you. 

Same here. Ignore is your friend. 

[Bevo14 8323]

2 hours ago, utfan87 said:

You’ve been saying this for a while. What do you know? Please disclose 

[Coach pop a bitch 5468]

2 hours ago, futureman said:

contrary to the other posters on this site, who are uninformed and making ignorant guesses, I know the dad. today it’s texas. will be texas. anyone who says otherwise doesn’t know what I know. 

Just quoting @futureman to fuck with @Junior Bonnerand @honolulu horn. Dont tell me how to live my life. 

[ClubWhatever 12144]

Immamac please delete futureman’s account.  Thanks.  

[Hank_Hill 18861]

58 minutes ago, Junior Bonner said:

I have that motherfucker on fucking ignore for a fucking reason. So please fucking stop quoting that motherfucker you fucking morons. 

Thank you. 

No?

[SaucyJack 3488]

5 hours ago, Bodacious Bevo said:

Moore enters at the 30ish with the other guy at the 33ish. Pushes him out at the 12. Angle adds 3.78 (triangle would be 51 yards along sideline and he's about 20 yards inside (if hashes are 18 yards in)). We don't know where the pursuit actually started though. So let's call it 7 yards. 

Turns out to 6.34 yards.  Great back of the envelope work, though.