Texas Recruiting Notes 2023: Strippers, Monkeys, and 5-Stars

[BurntOrange&White 39621]

Can’t miss guys like Hill and expect to win championships 

[immamac 42516]

Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

Can’t miss guys like Hill and expect to win championships 

This is just stupid. Everyone calm the fuck down.

[BurntOrange&White 39621]

5 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

Sounds like a good plan take the 1.5m from aggy and transfer for free after getting paid.

That’s not how it works

[TexasRenegade 2391]

3 minutes ago, FunkSoulBrother said:

My understanding from your posts was we weren’t going to get outbid or more of if we lose Hill it won’t be because of bags.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Irieguy said:

Same.

Ya'll both lack reading comprehension than.  CTJ has said for over a month that if A&M went all in on Hill with a ridiculous offer it would be hard to counter.

 

NIL and such counters the typical bag game, but flopping one giant bag on a recruit is a different matter.

[BurntOrange&White 39621]

Just now, immamac said:

This is just stupid. Everyone calm the fuck down.

It’s not. Shut the fuck up. You need elite talent to win championships. It’s proven. Settling for guys under that tier gets you to the ND’s of the world and Oklahoma’s. Making the playoffs but getting ass fucked by the teams who are landing the elite talent. 

[immamac 42516]

Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

It’s not. Shut the fuck up. You need elite talent to win championships. It’s proven. Settling for guys under that tier gets you to the ND’s of the world and Oklahoma’s. Making the playoffs but getting ass fucked by the teams who are landing the elite talent. 

Lmao why are you such a whiney bitch. 

[Pato del Muerto 52340]

5 minutes ago, FunkSoulBrother said:

My understanding from your posts was we weren’t going to get outbid or more of if we lose Hill it won’t be because of bags.

My read was we were making a respectable presentation of expected NIL potential for him that was a big number, but that the ags were likely to go ahead and get spendy with him and that might be sufficient to get him. 
 

it was. 

[BurntOrange&White 39621]

As always cash > promise of cash. Boosters need to step into the dark side. Especially moving to the SEC. 

[TexasRenegade 2391]

Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

It’s not. Shut the fuck up. You need elite talent to win championships. It’s proven. Settling for guys under that tier gets you to the ND’s of the world and Oklahoma’s. Making the playoffs but getting ass fucked by the teams who are landing the elite talent. 

Well....that would be a world of improvement over the last 13 years? So how about we work on that before we go all @Bevo or @Satya because we missed on one recruit....  

[Pato del Muerto 52340]

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

It’s not. Shut the fuck up. You need elite talent to win championships. It’s proven. Settling for guys under that tier gets you to the ND’s of the world and Oklahoma’s. Making the playoffs but getting ass fucked by the teams who are landing the elite talent. 

We have been bad. In most cases, you have to go from bad to good and then good to great. Trying to go from bad to great is a tough ask.  Don’t be apoplectic when it fails. 

[BurntOrange&White 39621]

Just now, TexasRenegade said:

Well....that would be a world of improvement over the last 13 years? So how about we work on that before we go all @Bevo or @Satya because we missed on one recruit....  

it’s not one recruit. It’s multiple elite recruits that would have helped us get there faster 

[Elmer_Fudd 22104]

[tokamak 6351]

5 minutes ago, FunkSoulBrother said:

My understanding from your posts was we weren’t going to get outbid or more of if we lose Hill it won’t be because of bags.

My reading between the lines - not just from ctj’s posts but from everything - is that our approach is more methodical, looking at the whole roster and recruiting class with an eye on an overall budget. In other words, what number makes sense for a guy like Hill in context of what the rest of our roster is getting? Whereas aggy’s approach is more focused on securing specific players. What number do we have to get to to lock up Hill today, right now? It’s more about raw talent acquisition and sorting the rest out later. 
 

Note that unlike many, I don’t think that aggy’s strategy is necessarily doomed to fail via a portal exodus of disgruntled mercenaries. There will certainly be transfers, like every program has. But it’ll be guys that aren’t making an impact and not seeing playing time. I’m sure starters and top contributors will be just fine. 

[utexas8 1433]

Can’t miss guys like Hill and expect to win championships 

Lol. Let’s win more than 5 games first.


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[Vermin 3042]

6 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Can’t miss guys like Hill and expect to win championships 

 

4 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

It’s not. Shut the fuck up. You need elite talent to win championships. It’s proven. Settling for guys under that tier gets you to the ND’s of the world and Oklahoma’s. Making the playoffs but getting ass fucked by the teams who are landing the elite talent. 

 

Bullshit, you do not need 5* 1st round draft picks at every position to win a championship. Shut the fuck up.

[The Dog 43794]

[BurntOrange&White 39621]

1 minute ago, utexas8 said:

Lol. Let’s win more than 5 games first.


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Let’s not hire shit coaches and have banana republic hiring process. 

1 minute ago, Vermin said:

 

 

Bullshit, you do not need 5* 1st round draft picks at every position to win a championship. Shut the fuck up.

Now show me the rest of that defense you dumb mother fucker. Show me that offense you dumb mother fucker. 

[Pato del Muerto 52340]

1 minute ago, The Dog said:

The expectation now is they all of your meme posts are tailored to your username. 

[TommyGufano 6021]

1 minute ago, Vermin said:

 

 

Bullshit, you do not need 5* 1st round draft picks at every position to win a championship. Shut the fuck up.

Team didn't even have Adrian Peterson either.

Let me middle this thing...

A.) You need really good players to compete for and win national championships. B.) There's no single player in the world who you can't recover from missing out on

[Tex-19 2869]

2 minutes ago, Vermin said:

 

 

Bullshit, you do not need 5* 1st round draft picks at every position to win a championship. Shut the fuck up.

This.

Also, we have enough talent to win 10 games every year. If we start actually doing that, watch what happens in recruiting.

[Ignatius 4000]

7 hours ago, Duane Moore said:

If that’s all it is, then it’s a sensible approach. Again, if the car that wouldn’t start Thursday gets running again today, I’m going to see that as a warning sign. 

Lol how long do you think it takes to fix a fucking car?

[BurntOrange&White 39621]

Just now, Ignatius said:

Lol how long do you think it takes to fix a fucking car?

Much less a tire as was reported

[Tex-19 2869]

25 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

That wasn’t what was said at the time and we discussed it and tried to explain it to you here at the time. But you lack reading comprehension and can’t fathom context, so here we are, with you making shit up and claiming to be a soothsayer. 

I didn’t fucking say that ATM wasn’t paying people. God damn, guys. I fucking sat here for two weeks telling you what was going to happen with Hill, while guys paid to cover this remained bullish. 

Fwiw, I think he's referring to the rumors about A&M not fully meeting their promises to last year's class. Not that A&M isn't paying at all.

But yeah no one said they weren't paying at all.

[Bevo 13525]

5 minutes ago, TexasRenegade said:

Well....that would be a world of improvement over the last 13 years? So how about we work on that before we go all @Bevo or @Satya because we missed on one recruit....  

My comments were that our edge recruiting sucked, that we didn't seem to have a plan for edge and that our pool party seemed useless and unorganized. It upset you and quite a few others, but I stick by it. I haven't commented on Hill.

[Tex-19 2869]

1 minute ago, Ignatius said:

Lol how long do you think it takes to fix a fucking car?

 

Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

Much less a tire as was reported

IT literally said the car thing was just for the public, and the staff knows the real reason. Enough with the car shit.

[TexasRenegade 2391]

Just now, Bevo said:

My comments were that our edge recruiting sucked, that we didn't seem to have a plan for edge and that our pool party seemed useless and unorganized. It upset you and quite a few others, but I stick by it. I haven't commented on Hill.

Actually no...you started playing Satya's greatest hits because you thought the pool party was unorganized and we weren't getting recruits.  Then when others called you out on that, you pivoted to the edge recruiting complaint.

[Hookem2147 20928]

Hill is the 4th ranked player in the state on 247 and the 9th ranked player in the state on On3. He is a damn good player but S’Maje Burrell had just as good, if not better junior tape than Hill. Only difference is Hill has been on recruiting radars for 3 years now. Buddy of mine who coaches in the district he plays in said he honestly flashed more at RB than he did at LB when they played Denton Ryan. He is not an irreplaceable piece in this class. I certainly would prefer to have him in the class, but we have a decent recruiting floor set at that position. If we find one more good one it will still be the best LB haul we’ve had in a decade from both a quality and quantity standpoint.

Edited July 30, 2022 by Hookem2147

[BurntOrange&White 39621]

2 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

 

IT literally said the car thing was just for the public, and the staff knows the real reason. Enough with the car shit.

IT also said they felt good about Hill so who really gives a shit what they think at this time

[Surlian 79]

Seems kind of hard to believe A&M would be able to land Hill with a bag if they weren't delivering on the bags from last class. Seems like their recruits from last class would be negatively recruiting if they weren't actually getting their money 

[ClubWhatever 12087]

Loud noises

[Ignatius 4000]

4 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

 

IT literally said the car thing was just for the public, and the staff knows the real reason. Enough with the car shit.

I got three of my best guys on your car right now…

[David Dennison 18652]

BurntOrange&White seems upset.

[Lonestar88 4585]

I honestly don’t know how some of you survive as adults when you shit your pants at the first sign of any adversity. We weren’t going to land every single player we wanted, championship teams don’t even do that, much less 5-7 ones.

[Hmbre97 6297]

[Getafix 28410]

 

OU 247, on Hicks.

 

 

 

[BurntOrange&White 39621]

I’m patiently waiting the day our boosters realize they’re gettting outbid and the game isn’t what they think. Sink or swim. 

[David Dennison 18652]

1 minute ago, Lonestar88 said:

I honestly don’t know how some of you survive as adults when you shit your pants at the first sign of any adversity. We weren’t going to land every single player we wanted, championship teams don’t even do that, much less 5-7 ones.

The fans who waited 35 years for a national championship know that Longhorn football requires a little patience.

We'll be fine.

[Tex-19 2869]

People panicking about Hill need to get a grip. Sure, it sucks to lose him, but did y'all really think we were going to get everyone? He always seemed like a longshot anyway until the last few weeks.

As long as we hang onto our current guys, add Baxter and Matthews or Toviano, plus fill in around the edges, this is an elite class. Plus as I've said before, the portal is the great wild card now days. Winning the initial recruitment may end up meaning very little.

[Chili dog 1787]

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I’m patiently waiting the day our boosters realize they’re gettting outbid and the game isn’t what they think. Sink or swim. 

You call this, “patient?”

[Irieguy 1059]

10 minutes ago, Surlian said:

Seems kind of hard to believe A&M would be able to land Hill with a bag if they weren't delivering on the bags from last class. Seems like their recruits from last class would be negatively recruiting if they weren't actually getting their money 

Yup.  

[Tex-19 2869]

1 hour ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Get your facts out of here, this is an attempt to create a narrative.

Haha fair enough. It's actually kind of crazy though. Bama had the then #1 all-time class in '21. In '22 they actually had a higher avg-recruit ranking than A&M, but with 4 fewer guys (excluding transfers), and now they look to be on their way to the #1 class this year. They've also proven to master the transfer portal. Saban is a fuckin witch.

[Michael Knight 12888]

27 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

It’s not. Shut the fuck up. You need elite talent to win championships. It’s proven. Settling for guys under that tier gets you to the ND’s of the world and Oklahoma’s. Making the playoffs but getting ass fucked by the teams who are landing the elite talent. 

You're right we haven't recruited well at all at the most important position in football with *checks notes* 2 100 overall rating QBs back to back.

[Dr. Teeth 5831]

4 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I’m patiently waiting the day our boosters realize they’re gettting outbid and the game isn’t what they think. Sink or swim. 

Legally outbid won’t happen. We won’t add things for a dad, coach, runner or broker. We will win high profile transfers, kids that see the future earnings potential and those that are willing to start with a UT coalition NIL base amount. A&M, unfortunately, will get the others. The amount of those kids will decrease each year. 

[BurntOrange&White 39621]

Until they dont

[Longhornlove 4779]

44 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

 

I didn’t fucking say that ATM wasn’t paying people. God damn, guys. I fucking sat here for two weeks telling you what was going to happen with Hill, while guys paid to cover this remained bullish. 

I hope you know I was defending you. I damn sure don't want you climbing up my backside. I had enough of that a long time ago.

[clapclapclap 9000]

6 minutes ago, Chili dog said:

You call this, “patient?”

English Patiently

 

[Vertigo 20265]

15 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

IT also said they felt good about Hill so who really gives a shit what they think at this time

Good Lord man. Step away from the keyboard, take a valium, and maybe go break into your furry porn collection.

[closetojumping 62223]

23 minutes ago, TexasRenegade said:

 

 

Ya'll both lack reading comprehension than.  CTJ has said for over a month that if A&M went all in on Hill with a ridiculous offer it would be hard to counter.

 

NIL and such counters the typical bag game, but flopping one giant bag on a recruit is a different matter.

 

20 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

My read was we were making a respectable presentation of expected NIL potential for him that was a big number, but that the ags were likely to go ahead and get spendy with him and that might be sufficient to get him. 
 

it was. 

Y’all are correct. 

19 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

As always cash > promise of cash. Boosters need to step into the dark side. Especially moving to the SEC. 

So what you’re wanting is for boosters with no background or appetite historically for buying recruits to start buying recruits because the dinosaur down the road still has a few targets of opportunity? That’s a panicked fantasy. And also, throwing out something that is working because of one absurd scenario seems pretty smart. 

[Chuckie Finster 22598]

I’m patiently waiting the day our boosters realize they’re gettting outbid and the game isn’t what they think. Sink or swim. 

Lol, like three weeks ago we were the hottest team in the country.

[Michael Knight 12888]

This is a worse meltdown than last year and we didn't have anything like this years class already committed at this point. I'm beginning to think you people just can't be happy