Texas Recruiting Notes 2023: Strippers, Monkeys, and 5-Stars

[satyanash 14281]

47 minutes ago, JBJ said:

Uzomah isn't even the best DE in the conference.

 

Edited November 30, 2022 by satyanash

[Pimphand 5596]

13 minutes ago, texifornia said:

There's a lot of aggy all over this post. Especially the TexAgs acronym.

You sit there and whine about this bitchass conference then you whine about an acronym.  Keep whining.  

[satyanash 14281]

1 hour ago, RGBIII said:

Ya that’s total busllhit, fuck this stupid god damn conference. Banks also wasn’t freshman of the year

The Big 12 been shafting us with end-of-year awards long before we thought of leaving. In 2005 Michael Huff won the Thorpe Award and was a unanimous All-American. Big 12 DPoY went to some random LB from fucking Kansas. They've never given us our due.

[TheMailBox357 213]

1 hour ago, texifornia said:

Speaking of awards' relevance for recruiting:

I'd flip Worthy and Barron, but altogether not bad.

 

1 hour ago, satyanash said:

Max Duggan is Big 12 OPoY over Bijan.

Felix Anudike-Uzomah is Big 12 DPoY over Jaylan Ford.

This is exactly the kind of bullshit I'm talking about. Neither of them will sniff an All-America selection but that doesn't matter to the coaches. They just didn't want any Texas players getting awards.

Seeing as this was voted by the coaches, when will we see the All-Big 12 honors from the media?

[RichUT 1791]

26 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

No, correlation doesn't equal causation. But you also can't correlate shit in defense of your stance, either. And you're pretty definitive that awards don't mean shit. And I'm pretty definitive that you can't know the minds of any recruit, and every recruit is different. In general having recent awards you can point to by position shows guys are getting developed and being successful. As another poster said, it's pretty easy to point to a trophy room. Ask aTm how it looks when it's empty. 

You say you can't think of a single instance of a trophy mattering...but how the fuck would you know what mattered and support that? It's not that your take is absurd, or without merit, it's just very odd. More trophies is better than less trophies, I think we can all agree on that. The fact anyone is drawing lines in the sand is just a weird choice on this topic, at least from my point of view. 

I don't know this topic deserves additional discourse, but that's an over simplification of my thesis. I'm not saying that awards don't matter at all, but I do reject the inference that Bijan losing out on the Doak introduces any risk to our ability to sign Baxter. Maybe I mis-read the thrust of the debate as I was skimming through the replies, but I think the idea is absurd. 

[Burntcowboy 1845]

 

[Post Oak 20184]

38 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

I'm surprised none of the sites have him ranked in the top 300/250/247/ect.

 

Yep.  Hes good.

[satyanash 14281]

48 minutes ago, JBJ said:

Yeah.  The defensive process should have looked like:

Best DL = Tyree Wilson

Best LB = Jaylon Ford

Best DB = Josh Newton

Argue over which one of those.

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Duggan is at least the best QB, but the best WR and RB are in the discussion for best nationally.

Player A: 27 tackles (19 solo, 8 ast), 7.5 TFLs, 5 sacks

Player B: 41 tackles (17 solo, 24 ast), 9.0 TFLs, 5.5 sacks, 1 FF

Player A is Okie Lite DE Collin Oliver, who was named 2nd-team All-Big 12. Player B is Barryn Sorrell, who was left off the list. Fuck. This. Conference.

[Junior Bonner 6232]

[BornAndRaised 12223]

Just now, Junior Bonner said:

I'm willing to bet this is in regards to the Big12 DPOY snubs for his team mates not anything recruiting related.

[RabidM 2664]

Are those rap lyrics or am I supposed to know what that means? 

[Mo Horn 8807]

We're leaving the conference and will get zero support for anything until we do. Refs and voters will continue to screw us

[Vertuzzi 1360]

20 minutes ago, Junior Bonner said:

🧢 or no 🧢?

[HateYouAndMyself 828]

5 hours ago, BornAndRaised said:

Not to pick on your in particular, but I feel like this board has been down on Burrell for this recruiting cycle. Any reasoning? Potential to decommit, unimpressive tape, position?

Nah Burrell is great. Just not someone expected to contribute day one like Lefau and doesn't have the same projected first round ceiling as Hill. Causes him to get spoken about less. 

[Vertigo 20266]

7 minutes ago, HateYouAndMyself said:

Nah Burrell is great. Just not someone expected to contribute day one like Lefau and doesn't have the same projected first round ceiling as Hill. Causes him to get spoken about less. 

Burrell is a guy I could see being an early contributor. He is really good, and he is a leader. Ford, Burrell, Hill(potential), Lefau is a salty group.

[gmr548 16503]

Yeah.  The defensive process should have looked like:
Best DL = Tyree Wilson
Best LB = Jaylon Ford
Best DB = Josh Newton
Argue over which one of those.
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Duggan is at least the best QB, but the best WR and RB are in the discussion for best nationally.

Yeah, I think Tyree Wilson has a pretty strong case for DPOY. I think his season ending early due to injury cost him there and I wouldn’t argue too much with him winning it over Ford. This KSU guy is pretty inexplicable.

[Atticus 3922]

55 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

Burrell is a guy I could see being an early contributor. He is really good, and he is a leader. Ford, Burrell, Hill(potential), Lefau is a salty group.

Burrell isn't an EE anymore, so he'll probably take a redshirt unless he is able to show value on special teams

[Cairn Horn88 8167]

2 hours ago, Mo Horn said:

We're leaving the conference and will get zero support for anything until we do. Refs and voters will continue to screw us

Yep…..don’t expect any Horns to get any major conference awards for say….oh, about 3 years.

[TXRed 3184]

 

[BurntOrange&White 39650]

[jinx 2635]

6 hours ago, RichUT said:

I don't know this topic deserves additional discourse, but that's an over simplification of my thesis. I'm not saying that awards don't matter at all, but I do reject the inference that Bijan losing out on the Doak introduces any risk to our ability to sign Baxter. Maybe I mis-read the thrust of the debate as I was skimming through the replies, but I think the idea is absurd. 

What were you saying? I couldn’t hear you because I had two Heismans in my ear…

[Cairn Horn88 8167]

4 hours ago, BornAndRaised said:

I'm willing to bet this is in regards to the Big12 DPOY snubs for his team mates not anything recruiting related.

Umm.

[Cairn Horn88 8167]

I think Texas should just win back to back national championships...the last year in the B12....and the first year in the secsec!

[Chili dog 1787]

[Longhornlove 4779]

9 hours ago, satyanash said:

Max Duggan is Big 12 OPoY over Bijan.

Felix Anudike-Uzomah is Big 12 DPoY over Jaylan Ford.

This is exactly the kind of bullshit I'm talking about. Neither of them will sniff an All-America selection but that doesn't matter to the coaches. They just didn't want any Texas players getting awards.

 

This is my response to the Big 12 Coaches selections.

[Ricky's one-hitter 9084]

14 hours ago, Pimphand said:

You sit there and whine about this bitchass conference then you whine about an acronym.  Keep whining.  

[Hornin' In 15]

Y'all need to get over this. UT & OU gave the Big12 the big *#&# you! Don't expect awards, accolades, or breaks on a game call until we see the SEC. Even then, it will be iffy at best. You can't call someone ugly then expect them to love & respect you.

[Kwix 2186]

2 minutes ago, Hornin' In said:

Y'all need to get over this. UT & OU gave the Big12 the big *#&# you! Don't expect awards, accolades, or breaks on a game call until we see the SEC. Even then, it will be iffy at best. You can't call someone ugly then expect them to love & respect you.

It's not unexpected. Still ok to point it out. 

[Knoxtnhorn 5929]

7 minutes ago, Hornin' In said:

Y'all need to get over this. UT & OU gave the Big12 the big *#&# you! Don't expect awards, accolades, or breaks on a game call until we see the SEC. Even then, it will be iffy at best. You can't call someone ugly then expect them to love & respect you.

Agree to a point except that TX and OU made a business decision that improves their schools' stock; the Big 12 is just acting like a petty bitch, ex-girlfriend.

[BrazilHorn 6576]

4 minutes ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

Agree to a point except that TX and OU made a business decision that improves their schools' stock; the Big 12 is just acting like a petty bitch, ex-girlfriend.

The thing is the Big 12 ALWAYS acted like this which is part and parcel of why Texas and OU are leaving. Nothing has changed.

 

[BabaYaga 15210]

19 minutes ago, Hornin' In said:

Y'all need to get over this. UT & OU gave the Big12 the big *#&# you! Don't expect awards, accolades, or breaks on a game call until we see the SEC. Even then, it will be iffy at best. You can't call someone ugly then expect them to love & respect you.

2015 vs Ok State says hold my beer

Fuck this conference

[Junior Bonner 6232]

Jaylan Ford didn’t call anybody ugly. He played his ass off and earned that award. He got screwed, not UT. And it’s okay to point out the injustice done to that kid. 

[BabaYaga 15210]

1 minute ago, Junior Bonner said:

Jaylan Ford didn’t call anybody ugly. He played his ass off and earned that award. He got screwed, not UT. And it’s okay to point out the injustice done to that kid. 

Yep - these are the actions of a petty, dying conference trying desperately to propel it's sole team into prominence by hook or by crook. 

[hook me 2080]

15 hours ago, satyanash said:

Player A: 27 tackles (19 solo, 8 ast), 7.5 TFLs, 5 sacks

Player B: 41 tackles (17 solo, 24 ast), 9.0 TFLs, 5.5 sacks, 1 FF

Player A is Okie Lite DE Collin Oliver, who was named 2nd-team All-Big 12. Player B is Barryn Sorrell, who was left off the list. Fuck. This. Conference.

Player C : 39 tackles (26 solo, 13 ast), 10 TFL, 7.5 sacks, 2 FF

Player C is the newly crowned defensive player of the year despite having a worse statistical year in literally every single category than he did in 2021 & having almost identical numbers as someone who only received honorable mention. Is there something we're missing? Was alphabet soup triple teamed on every play & constantly run away from or did he just receive a lifetime achievement award? Same for the DL form WVU who got 1st team - Stills. What a joke.

Edited December 1, 2022 by hook me

[babysdaddy 2718]

I have turned bitter.  I want KSU to buttfuck TCU on national tv this Saturday then KSU get embarrassed in their bowl game.  Joke

[Junior Bonner 6232]

5 minutes ago, babysdaddy said:

I have turned bitter.  I want KSU to buttfuck TCU on national tv this Saturday then KSU get embarrassed in their bowl game.  Joke

Why joke? I hereby adopt and approve this highly desirable outcome. 

[texifornia 56512]

7 minutes ago, babysdaddy said:

I have turned bitter.  I want KSU to buttfuck TCU on national tv this Saturday then KSU get embarrassed in their bowl game.  Joke

And alphabet soup to be a nonfactor in both games.

(Honestly I generally like K-State and Hypnotoad, I hope they both do well)

[Snake Diggity 4614]

Is this the recruiting thread?

[Junior Bonner 6232]

6 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

Is this the recruiting thread?

Big 12 Awards Grievances thread, dude. Air your grievance or gtfo… 

[Red Five 40651]

37 minutes ago, babysdaddy said:

I have turned bitter. 

New site motto please, thanks. 

[Jersey Man10 3508]

I have turned bitter.  I want KSU to buttfuck TCU on national tv this Saturday then KSU get embarrassed in their bowl game.  Joke

I’ve always been bitter. Fuck everyone who is not Texas.

[Hiphopopotamos 20865]

Marion is now following 4* CB and Arkansas commit Jaylon Braxton. 

Oh, Jaylon is the younger brother of current portal resident and previous Tulsa QB Braylon Braxton.

[jeevsie 3720]

[Gil Bang 25897]

7 hours ago, texifornia said:

And alphabet soup to be a nonfactor in both games.

(Honestly I generally like K-State and Hypnotoad, I hope they both do well)

If by "like" you mean "hate", and if by "Hypnotoad" you mean "Cockroaches:, than I agree with you.

[RollingPresidential 632]

Getting Hill really means losing Burrell? 

[Vertigo 20266]

16 minutes ago, RollingPresidential said:

Getting Hill really means losing Burrell? 

Possibly, but it shouldn't. Those two guys can coexist. 

[Elmer_Fudd 22108]

2 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

Possibly, but it shouldn't. Those two guys can coexist. 

It would be silly if Burrell leaves.  Posted a few days ago, but after next year, Hill, Lefau, and Burrell could easily be the top three LB's.

[texifornia 56512]

4 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

It would be silly if Burrell leaves.  Posted a few days ago, but after next year, Hill, Lefau, and Burrell could easily be the top three LB's.

Sounds like Aranda is giving him the "be the star of the show under a defensive HC, not an afterthought" sell.

[Texas Wahoo 3383]

40 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Sounds like Aranda is giving him the "be the star of the show under a defensive HC, not an afterthought" sell.

I guess they have to, given that they just fired their defensive coordinator.

[Hookem2147 20931]

"Inside Texas believes there is a good chance On3 Consensus 5-star linebacker Anthony Hill will be back on campus for a day the final weekend before signing day. IT also believes he could do the same at Texas A&M."