Chappaquidick

[TahoeHorn 107]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/04/04/the_grisly_history_of_chappaquiddick_136698.html

Will you watch the movie?  Do you remember Chappaquidick?  How did you view it then?  What about now?

I thought then and I think now, that there are few acts by a politician that I consider more disqualifying than what Kennedy did.  I was stunned and disgusted that he continued to have a political career.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

I remember the transgressions of Andrew Jackson and how he killed all those Native Americans.

I can’t believe he got away with that.

 

 

[bschoolprof 6280]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I remember the transgressions of Andrew Jackson and how he killed all those Native Americans.

I can’t believe he got away with that.

 

 

Mary Jo Kopechne never scalped any settlers.  

[Brisketexan 105631]

9 minutes ago, TahoeHorn said:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/04/04/the_grisly_history_of_chappaquiddick_136698.html

Will you watch the movie?  Do you remember Chappaquidick?  How did you view it then?  What about now?

I thought then and I think now, that there are few acts by a politician that I consider more disqualifying than what Kennedy did.  I was stunned and disgusted that he continued to have a political career.

I wasn't around when it happened, but I too was stunned that Ted Kennedy continued to have a career after that.

And now, we have Trump, so none of this shit matters.

It's all water under the bridge.

With a girl drowning under it.  Or something.

[Fastbreak 3997]

Anyone remember the shit that went down under Ptolemy III. That shit was wack...

[Bozo_Casanova 26688]

Ptolemy III was a Democrat!

 

 

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[phdhorn 6224]

From National Lampoon about '71 or so, never forgot it:

Goddamn right.

[Brisketexan 105631]

Just now, phdhorn said:

From National Lampoon about '71 or so, never forgot it:

Goddamn right.

At a law school halloween party, a couple showed up in costumes of (1) him in a suit, loosened tie, half empty whiskey bottle, (2) her in a cocktail dress, all white-death face makeup, seaweed draped on her.  Yep, they were Ted and Mary Jo.  Got some good laughs.

[bad_teammate 13326]

lol4

[phdhorn 6224]

Meh, it took care of the immediate problem.  Kennedy's presidential career was completely shot after that.  So it worked well enough.  I didn't give a flying shit if he got elected 25 times over in Massachusetts, it's their problem.  And his influence pissed out through the 70's with the conservative upmovement in the 80's, so he essentially was just a minority windbag for most of the rest of his career.

There's a fascinating link between Mary Jo Kopechne, Bobby Baker, LBJ, Kennedy, JFK, and the East German spy Ellen Rometsch.  I'll  try to follow up on it later.

[4th&Five 41710]

"You should have heard him talking about Chappaquiddick - trying to blame the whole thing on. bad directions."

[Brisketexan 105631]

1 minute ago, phdhorn said:

Meh, it took care of the immediate problem.  Kennedy's presidential career was completely shot after that.  So it worked well enough.  I didn't give a flying shit if he got elected 25 times over in Massachusetts, it's their problem.  And his influence pissed out through the 70's with the conservative upmovement in the 80's, so he essentially was just a minority windbag for most of the rest of his career.

There's a fascinating link between Mary Jo Kopechne, Bobby Baker, LBJ, Kennedy, JFK, and the East German spy Ellen Rometsch.  I'll  try to follow up on it later.

[David Dennison 19133]

30 minutes ago, TahoeHorn said:

I thought then and I think now, that there are few acts by a politician that I consider more disqualifying than what Kennedy did.  I was stunned and disgusted that he continued to have a political career.

Righteous indignation aside, didn't you vote for Donald Trump?

[F250 28959]

Chappaquidick was way before my birth and I am no spring chicken. I wonder how many people here are actually old enough to remember this incident.

[TahoeHorn 107]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

Righteous indignation aside, didn't you vote for Donald Trump?

Nope.

[jimmyjazz 46502]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

Righteous indignation aside, didn't you vote for Donald Trump?

No, but he did bring the donuts.

[77horn 216]

I remember the incident, haven't seen the movie, and likely won't.  The Kennedys seem like they were a bunch of drunken horn-dogs who were rich enough to get out of all their problems. 

I do know that before it happened, my mother was as staunch a supporter of the Kennedys as you would find.  Afterwards she said she never support Teddy for anything.

[David Dennison 19133]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

No, but he did bring the donuts.

Ah. Gary Johnson voter.

[TahoeHorn 107]

Just now, David Dennison said:

Ah. Gary Johnson voter.

Nope.  Wrote in Jeb Bush.

[jimmyjazz 46502]

Joe was a crook.  JFK had massive support, much of which was justified.  Bobby might have been a better man but almost certainly a lesser politician.  Ted was not without a heart but was hardly an intellect, and pretty much ruined the family legacy.

[Huckleberry 33606]

Once I heard about Chappaquiddick I resolved never to vote for Ted Kennedy.

[Bozo_Casanova 26688]

Or Ptolemy III


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[hayden_horn 11373]

3 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Or Ptolemy III


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ptolemy iii also had troops in iraq and syria

[Incredulity 11717]

I think it's telling that there hasn't been a previous movie, movie of the week, mini series...... about the accident.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

It’s also telling there hasn’t been a Vince Foster movie 

[David Dennison 19133]

I'm waiting for the Seth Rich movie.

[Dr. Teeth 5863]

8 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

It’s also telling there hasn’t been a Vince Foster movie 

Primary colors

[Incredulity 11717]

10 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

It’s also telling there hasn’t been a Vince Foster movie 

half-assed deflection.

Edited April 4, 2018 by Incredulity

[AUinHsv 580]

3 hours ago, TahoeHorn said:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/04/04/the_grisly_history_of_chappaquiddick_136698.html

Will you watch the movie?  Do you remember Chappaquidick?  How did you view it then?  What about now?

I thought then and I think now, that there are few acts by a politician that I consider more disqualifying than what Kennedy did.  I was stunned and disgusted that he continued to have a political career.

One the more interesting parodies was National Lampoon in early 70's. VW had run some sort of commercial that showed a VW Beetle floating on water. Lampoon created a parody that said something like "If Ted Kennedy drove a VW he would be president". VW sued and won..

[TahoeHorn 107]

1 minute ago, AUinHsv said:

One the more interesting parodies was National Lampoon in early 70's. VW had run some sort of commercial that showed a VW Beetle floating on water. Lampoon created a parody that said something like "If Ted Kennedy drove a VW he would be president". VW sued and won..

IIRC the issue never went to print.

[phdhorn 6224]

45 minutes ago, TahoeHorn said:

IIRC the issue never went to print.

Oh, sure it did.  I remember that, too.  And it's pretty easy to get on the Internets.

[Parliament 14401]

Are all of the Kennedy's dead now?  Drugs, guns, skiing, etc?

[Dutchrudder 11160]

Damn that's a lot of Scrabble points.

[Brisketexan 105631]

1 minute ago, Parliament said:

Are all of the Kennedy's dead now?  Drugs, guns, skiing, etc?

In a related note, "Drugs, guns, and skiing" will be the title of my debut album.

[TahoeHorn 107]

http://www.printmag.com/imprint/on-hoaxes-spoofs-and-parodies/

 

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The Lampoon had to recall the magazine and issue an apology.

I've seen the picture but never a magazine with it.  I'm not clear how many hit the streets.  I know I couldn't find one.

Edited April 4, 2018 by TahoeHorn

[EastTexan 662]

4 hours ago, David Dennison said:

Righteous indignation aside, didn't you vote for Donald Trump?

 

All bs aside, is Mueller investigating Trump for murder now?

[jettrink 40]

5 hours ago, F250 said:

Chappaquidick was way before my birth and I am no spring chicken. I wonder how many people here are actually old enough to remember this incident.

I am, and I never thought it was accident.  She was gonna roll that loser so he killed her ass.

[David Dennison 19133]

1 hour ago, Parliament said:

Are all of the Kennedy's dead now?  Drugs, guns, skiing, etc?

Nope. One's still in Congress.

[bad_teammate 13326]

Roll him on what? He was a drunk, entitled piece of shit from an American royalty family of douchebags who didn't give a shit about the life of a peasant. Fuck the Kennedys all day, but come on, this isn't some grand fucking conspiracy. It's a powerful family of narcissistic assholes protecting their own.

[DaysOff 8012]

^^^^correct

Will watch it next week.

[Heavy 6 68]

22 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Nope. One's still in Congress.

[longhorndude 146]

I’m guessing this is what FChorn will look like before the opening credits are even finished.

[Judge Roybeanbag 11829]

I voted for all the Kennedy’s.  I was -5,  2 and maybe 11 for the last one.   

Edited April 5, 2018 by Judge Roybeanbag

[Bateshorn 9965]

20 hours ago, F250 said:

Chappaquidick was way before my birth and I am no spring chicken. I wonder how many people here are actually old enough to remember this incident.

This.  I was born in 73 and have worked in politics in DC my entire adult life. She's dead. He's dead.  Newsflash:  Rich powerful people can literally get away with murder.  Who fucking cares?

What's next?  Nan Britton and Warren G. Harding?  Jesus. 

Edited April 5, 2018 by Bateshorn

[FondrenRoad 4378]

Did Beetles actually float?

[ChiTownDoc 21238]

On 4/4/2018 at 1:48 PM, phdhorn said:

There's a fascinating link between Mary Jo Kopechne, Bobby Baker, LBJ, Kennedy, JFK, and the East German spy Ellen Rometsch.  I'll  try to follow up on it later.

Well she was fairly hot, so I'm sure us Shaggy Surly detectives can figure it out.  Not sure how fascinated I am though...

[SDG 3319]

6 hours ago, Bateshorn said:

This.  I was born in 73 and have worked in politics in DC my entire adult life. She's dead. He's dead.  Newsflash:  Rich powerful people can literally get away with murder.  Who fucking cares?

What's next?  Nan Britton and Warren G. Harding?  Jesus. 

Well when we have threads like this stormy-daniels-60-minutes-special getting so much attention...

[phdhorn 6224]

I don't get some of the posts on this thread either.  A movie has just been released about a reallyinfluential episode at the time, one which influenced the course of Presidential history, and one of the most publicly well-known scandals in American political history.  It was mammoth in its scope and attention.  

Posts that seem to imply in some weird way that it's still relevant as a scandal today are completely, utterly missing the point.  The point is a movie has come out dealing with what, at the time, was a significant thing and had a significant impact.  You might as well say, "what the fuck's so important about Lincoln's assassination now?  I mean, they're all dead."

What?  The?  Fuck?

And the most puzzling is, "well I wasn't alive then... so big deal."  Whathefuck?  Okay, you weren't around.  I was like 12.  It was still a huge deal.  You being born or some fluid in a sperm sac doesn't change that.

It's relevant because it was a real, historical, and actually diabolical thing.  It's worth a fucking movie, at least.  And it's a fascinating story.

Honest to god, is history for some of you only shit you think is relevant?  

Anyway, uh, this is a movie.  No more, no less.  DEFINITELY worth discussing.  The rest I just have no fucking idea where some of you are coming from...

[TornACL 7766]

If it's a movie, then it's not real like Pizzagate is.

[bernorange 8377]

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/cold-opening/n10108?snl=1

RIP Phil Hartman