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We Are in a Political Cold War


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On 9/10/2019 at 6:11 PM, Celery Man said:

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The quote below is from on op-ed piece that came out during the talks in London. Interesting article as it relates to not only foreign policy, but also, the rather observant take on how the cult views someone who would typically be seen as a dictator.

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But putting that aside, I believe there is a more fundamental change: European liberals have come to understand that American democracy no longer produces a consensual politics with a predictable foreign policy. The change of president means not only a new figure in the White House but also, in fact, a new regime. Were the Democrats to triumph in 2020 and a Europe-friendly president to take the helm, there is no guarantee that in 2024 Americans will not elect a president who, like Mr Trump, will see the European Union as an enemy and will actively try to destabilise relations with Europe.

The self-destruction of the American foreign policy consensus was powerfully demonstrated not only during the recent impeachment hearings, which have seen the politicisation of policy towards Ukraine, but also by the fact that the spectre of Russian subversion did not provoke a bipartisan allergic reaction. When Trump voters were told that President Vladimir Putin of Russia supported their candidate, they started admiring Mr Putin rather than abandoning Mr Trump.

 

 

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On 9/10/2019 at 7:44 PM, Ghost of LL said:

It ends when you die.  Both politically and corporeally. 

This "Political Cold War" is the death rattle of a failed generation that was given everything and never contributed a thing.  Only when you are dead are we going to be able to promulgate the reforms needed to fix our democracy.

In other words, fuck off, donut boy.

 

On 9/10/2019 at 7:55 PM, Ghost of LL said:

Here is a real problem in Tahoe's discussion: when he talks about the "majority," he's talking about the Senate majority.  But that is not representative of the majority of Americans.  The majority of Americans voted Democratic.  Three million more Americans voted for Hillary Clinton than voted for Donald Trump.

And yet when the Senate minority--which actually represents the will of the majority of Americans--doesn't acquiesce to this Administration's incompetence, immorality, and abuse of power, they're being "dicks" and "assholes."

Take that horseshit to the Fuckville County Trumpkin Party meeting along with a box of donuts, fuckface. 

Damn, this is some Cy Young level heat you were throwing that day. 

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