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Patricio Swayze

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Love this show. I started watching it as it aired a couple of years ago. Got sidetracked with other stuff halfway through the first season and didn’t finish it until the second season started to air.

It seems like almost every character is heading towards a dark/sad demise. I am guessing Frankie gets killed by the mafia or something along those lines. Vincent and Abby split up. Paul is going to get AIDS. Maybe Eileen ends up doing legit film work.

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I love this series merely for the window into that seedy world of NYC in 80s. Paul, Bobby, and Goldman are all getting AIDS. Rudy and Tommy will have a go at some point since Tommy's doing stuff under the table. I believe the mid 80s was a big time for Mob wars in NY. The evolution of the porn industry is also interesting with nods to movies like New Wave Hookers and the VHS revolution. The AIDS Crisis is something I've never thought got enough of a hard look by Hollywood outside of series like And The Band Played On and Philadelphia. 

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4 hours ago, Patricio Swayze said:


Totally. The photos of Brooklyn and the Bronx from that decade are crazy. Looks like Beirut.

Having worked in NYC several times during the mid 80's, it was almost like Beirut. Just no artillery. Gangs and the Mob were real problems.

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I’m in for another season. I am interested to see how they wrap it up, but I am glad they are wrapping it up. The train wreck is coming and there is no way that a number of the characters don’t end up with sad endings based on the show history, time it is set in, etc.

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On 9/11/2019 at 8:47 PM, Brew said:

I’m in for another season. I am interested to see how they wrap it up, but I am glad they are wrapping it up. The train wreck is coming and there is no way that a number of the characters don’t end up with sad endings based on the show history, time it is set in, etc.

right out of the Boogie Nights playbook.  This time period has always been interesting to me.  So much sadness, lack of belief, etc.  Then USAUSAUSA won the gold and everything was ok again.

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On 9/19/2019 at 10:43 PM, mulletpelini said:

One thing that threw me was Bobbys oldest kid. I didn't even recognize him at all, I just thought they were showing these 2 idiots snortin coke at Frankies bar for the storyline.  

Margarita is still top 10 hottest women in the world gotdamn she is smokin

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Didn't realize she has only five more months before she joins the "chicks over 40 that still have it" thread

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Lazarus Bocanegra

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just got caught back up and this show is still very good.  Not liking at all where Frankie's dumbassedry is leading, but they've been setting that up since the pilot.  Also, that strange confusion of the early days of the AIDS epidemic aside, it is curious that millionaire has zero reservations about sexing former prostitute turned porn star.  

 

 

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On 9/11/2019 at 7:59 AM, Patricio Swayze said:

I am completely fascinated by 70s/early 80s NYC. I love to watch documentaries about it and especially love street photography of it. One of my favorite films is Taxi Driver and after I saw it when I was 17, I have been fascinated by that era of NYC.

Can you expand on which documentaries you liked please? 

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Patricio Swayze

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Can you expand on which documentaries you liked please? 


I need to go back and look for titles, but a few are:

Style Wars (documentary about graffiti in NYC during that era)

Rubble Kings (mostly about NYC street gangs in the 70s)

The Police Tapes (kind of a precursor to “Cops” in that a film crew rides along with police in 1970s NYC)
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3 hours ago, bamachine said:

Dumbass twin finally got what he had been asking for over a long stretch. 

I think the show failed with his character, and the proof is that I didn't feel anything when it happened, and nobody's even bothering to talk about it here.  It's like, eh, finally. 

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I thought the end of Treme was a beautiful, touching, and a culturally accurate ending to a flawed show. I’m hoping for the same for The Deuce. 
 

I hated how the show handled Frankie’s death. They spend a whole season carefully, and thoughtfully setting up the death of a minor character, Todd. Meanwhile, in a span 50 minutes Frankie is killed, mourned, and avenged. I’m guessing Franco had other commitments and didn’t have time to portray two characters anymore. 
 

I’m confused on Tommy and Rudy’s reaction to Frankie’s death. Rudy is a Capo in the Gambino Family. Frankie and Vincent are most certainly with them and protected. The son of a made guy, Pascal kills Frankie. Surely, Rudy would demand a sit down and retribution. Pascal isn’t made and his dad isn’t a Capo or in Gambino upper management. Yet Rudy and Tommy let it slide, and blow Vincent off. Rudy seems to like Vincent, and as a businessman you’d think he’d demand compensation for the loss of an good earner. Just my two cents. 

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I'll be honest, the story of Frankie knocking out the pitcher who beaned Vincent got to me, (brothers and shit). Wasn't expecting that since when Frankie died, it wasn't that big of a deal to me.

Two of my best friends growing up were twins.  They fought all the fucking time.  When it came to fighting one though, you were fighting two.  Two of the toughest sonsabitches I've known in this life.

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Patricio Swayze

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I hated how the show handled Frankie’s death. They spend a whole season carefully, and thoughtfully setting up the death of a minor character, Todd. Meanwhile, in a span 50 minutes Frankie is killed, mourned, and avenged. I’m guessing Franco had other commitments and didn’t have time to portray two characters anymore. 


I disagree. Frankie lived a very fast lifestyle. Gambling, porn, organized crime, etc. him being shot down like that, to me makes perfect sense. He was shot down like a dog in the streets. He was a criminal. Most people don’t care about criminals, especially ones like Frankie. You read about it in the news and go about your day.

Todd on the other hand contracts a disease, that at the time was kind of a mystery, and for many people is this long, slow death sentence. Drawing it out like that felt right. He wasn’t a bad person, but contracted a bad disease.
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