What's going on with this DNI Whistleblower ?

[Pig Bellmont 8884]

8 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

Maybe the Republicans WILL save us!
 

My take: this is because some swing state Dems are saying the refusal to release the report necessitates an impeachment inquiry. McConnell doesn’t want the ultimate impeachment vote in the house to have unanimous Dem support 

[jimmyjazz 47127]

McConnell is trying to get votes and bury it.  The man is fucking evil.  He hasn't "seen the light".  Goebbels never "saw the light".

[Degenerate Gardner 4157]

1 minute ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

McConnell sees the writing on the wall. He's getting ahead of this as much as he possibly can + try to get some daylight between he and Trump.

 

I'd say at this point, he's looking more at covering his ass for November 2020 and hopefully keeping the Senate with the GOP rather than running interference for Trump.

Disagree.  It's pacifying subterfuge though I can't yet tell you what flavor.  Mitch is all in with Trump.  

[Longhorn_Fan68 34102]

2 minutes ago, Degenerate Gardner said:

Disagree.  It's pacifying subterfuge though I can't yet tell you what flavor.  Mitch is all in with Trump.  

good, I hope he goes down with that bloated ship

[Francisco 2.0 32585]

1 minute ago, Degenerate Gardner said:

Disagree.  It's pacifying subterfuge though I can't yet tell you what flavor.  Mitch is all in with Trump.  

Mitch is a pure politician.  Trump isn't.  Mitch will sacrifice Trump in an attempt to cover his ass.

Don't forget; these fuckers all are only interested in the next election.  If this thing gets uber-ugly for Trump, Mitch sure as hell doesn't want voters to be reminded of their alliance in the good days.  

 

[Gil Bang 26230]

what a cunt

 

[Degenerate Gardner 4157]

3 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Mitch is a pure politician.  Trump isn't.  Mitch will sacrifice Trump in an attempt to cover his ass.

Don't forget; these fuckers all are only interested in the next election.  If this thing gets uber-ugly for Trump, Mitch sure as hell doesn't want voters to be reminded of their alliance in the good days.  

 

Usually I'd agree but Trump laid out a unique buffet of lawlessness and opportunity.  GOP leaders filled themselves at the trough.  They've been operating like there's no tomorrow, not like pols who will one day be accountable to voters.  

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Don’t be fooled, McConnell does not want an impeachment trial in the Senate.  

[Francisco 2.0 32585]

1 minute ago, Degenerate Gardner said:

Usually I'd agree but Trump laid out a unique buffet of lawlessness and opportunity.  GOP leaders filled themselves at the trough.  They've been operating like there's no tomorrow, not like pols who will one day be accountable to voters.  

You might be right.

I'm still of the opinion Mitch will make some kind of futile effort in order to get on the right side of history here.   

[SimonBolivar 11062]

1 minute ago, Degenerate Gardner said:

Usually I'd agree but Trump laid out a unique buffet of lawlessness and opportunity.  GOP leaders filled themselves at the trough.  They've been operating like there's no tomorrow, not like pols who will one day be accountable to voters.  

Also I don't see a way the Turtle keeps any kind of power without Trump's base. Many many people in his base hate Mitch and would happily side with Trump no matter what. 

[kevwun 16437]

Mitch is tied at the hip to the USS Trump because of his wife and his own dealings with certain Russian oligarchs.  He's going down with the ship.  You must always assume that he is up to no good.

[InkaUtexas 26860]

Then it is up to the citizens to not forget. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

46 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

This all ends in "Furk."  It always has.  Don't get on the roller coaster.

I came to this conclusion during the Russia stuff.  No matter what happens, America will bleed to death.  

The question I’m most focused on is what comes afterwards.  

[Brisketexan 106874]

Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I came to this conclusion during the Russia stuff.  No matter what happens, America will bleed to death.  

The question I’m most focused on is what comes afterwards.  

[Longhorn_Fan68 34102]

guess I better learn to play guitar

[Pig Bellmont 8884]

Non binding resolution for Trump to release the full whistle blower report to Congress just unanimously passed the Senate. 

Also, some food for thought:

 

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3871]

3 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

You might be right.

I'm still of the opinion Mitch will make some kind of futile effort in order to get on the right side of history here.   

If so, it was impressively fast.  I think that takes the denial, anger, bargaining, whatever, whatever, acceptance thing, which would have taken more time.  Acting this fast sounds like he is still working for his team, and not working on something that looks like he is on the other side as his team.  

[Francisco 2.0 32585]

Just now, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

guess I better learn to play guitar

While that would be cool, just operating a flame thrower in lieu of a guitar-flame thrower combo would be good enough.

 

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I knew you were an optimist at heart

[Longhorn_Fan68 34102]

1 minute ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

While that would be cool, just operating a flame thrower in lieu of a guitar-flame thrower combo would be good enough.

 

 

you don't get it. I'm a pacifist. not that I wouldn't kill a motherfucker if it came down to it - and there are plenty of times the thought has risen - there's just better uses of my time

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3871]

 

 

15 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Mitch is a pure politician.  Trump isn't.  Mitch will sacrifice Trump in an attempt to cover his ass.

Don't forget; these fuckers all are only interested in the next election.  If this thing gets uber-ugly for Trump, Mitch sure as hell doesn't want voters to be reminded of their alliance in the good days.  

 

kilgore trout though thinking you might be right.

 

 

[Brisketexan 106874]

Just now, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

you don't get it. I'm a pacifist. not that I wouldn't kill a motherfucker if it came down to it - and there are plenty of times the thought has risen - there's just better uses of my time

Plus, even post-apocalyptic chicks will dig musicians.

Charlize is mine, though.

[Francisco 2.0 32585]

Wonder what new bombshells will come out in the coming days, since a bunch of shit is happening at warp speed now?

Barely 10 days ago, no one had any idea of this coming down the pike. Odds are someone or some group is going to get emboldened enough to leak out something that makes this Ukraine stuff seem quaint.

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 34102]

well lookie there, bi-partisanship

 

[Mojo Hand 4580]

2 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Wonder what new bombshells will come out in the coming days, since a bunch of shit is happening at warp speed now?

Barely 10 days ago, no one had any idea of this coming down the pike. Odds are someone or some group is going to get emboldened enough to leak out something that makes this Ukraine stuff seem quaint.

 

Yeah, if anyone's got anything, now's the time to bring it out. 

[triplehorn 2664]

2 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Wonder what new bombshells will come out in the coming days, since a bunch of shit is happening at warp speed now?

Barely 10 days ago, no one had any idea of this coming down the pike. Odds are someone or some group is going to get emboldened enough to leak out something that makes this Ukraine stuff seem quaint.

 

yep.  aged powder. extra dry.  packs a punch.

[Brisketexan 106874]

1 minute ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

well lookie there, bi-partisanship

 

What this tells me....is that the WB complaint is a nothing.

The GOP wouldn't vote to release something harmful.  And rest assured, the GOP leadership has all seen it already.

[triplehorn 2664]

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

What this tells me....is that the WB complaint is a nothing.

The GOP wouldn't vote to release something harmful.  And rest assured, the GOP leadership has all seen it already.

Not under their control.  It's in the whistleblower's hands.

[Longhorn_Fan68 34102]

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

What this tells me....is that the WB complaint is a nothing.

The GOP wouldn't vote to release something harmful.  And rest assured, the GOP leadership has all seen it already.

You're gonna make me mute you, aren't you?

[Biff Tannen 46151]

35 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

probably a typo anyway.  likely "MCCONNELL has hotcarled the resolution calling for release of the whistleblower report."

almost made me bust out laughing in a meeting.  bravo.

[SimonBolivar 11062]

3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

What this tells me....is that the WB complaint is a nothing.

The GOP wouldn't vote to release something harmful.  And rest assured, the GOP leadership has all seen it already.

Edited September 24, 2019 by SimonBolivar

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3871]

other theory:  Trump's reelection bid is already doomed as many on here have theorized based on hardened disapprovals at the 55% line.  more and more R senators see that number as unmovable and are getting a contingency plan together if it sticks that way through the spring.  

[Bama Chick 28596]

Wonder what new bombshells will come out in the coming days, since a bunch of shit is happening at warp speed now?
Barely 10 days ago, no one had any idea of this coming down the pike. Odds are someone or some group is going to get emboldened enough to leak out something that makes this Ukraine stuff seem quaint.
 

Today has been a long month.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Don’t worry folks, we’ll go back to picking fights with Iran again soon enough.  

[SimonBolivar 11062]

Just now, Bama Chick said:

 

Today has been a long month.

 

[Mojo Hand 4580]

Schiff has been talking to the WB's attorney, so it's possible he's gotten a proffer and knows what's in the complaint. 

[ndawg 1242]

This is definitely going to be a headfake.

[triplehorn 2664]

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

I hate to think this but somewhere deep down I feel like Bill Barr is orchestrating most of this.  This is his wheelhouse. 

[Red Five 41703]

If it's bad enough, wouldn't this give them the necessary cover to remove Trump? I mean, they'd rather run Nikki Haley or Tom Cotton in 2020 right? 

[Lagunamadre 1975]

I'd say the whole Senate bill deal means one of two things:

1) The whistleblower complaint does not have legs to it and Mitch knows that and this will embarrass the media and Democrats. 

2) Trump is fucked. 

If I know Mitch like I think I know him, I'd have to think it would be closer to 1. 

[deech 2389]

17 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

What this tells me....is that the WB complaint is a nothing.

The GOP wouldn't vote to release something harmful.  And rest assured, the GOP leadership has all seen it already.

Similar train of thought......

The WB complaint is something and it was all going to come out Thursday regardless one way or the other.  So when Schumer suggests this measure, go along with it because then you can say - I've now read the WB complaint - Nothing burger - he shouldn't be impeached.  I thought there would be more/etc.  (Maybe even WB didn't have first hand knowledge - what a political hit job)

I think it's unlikely Trump said on the "public" recordings already approved congressional aid for investigation.  He likely just said - stamp out corruption - look into Biden, etc.  Then he tasked Rudy to go there and deliver the Aid for investigation demand in person.  Why else is he dispatching Rudy?  Everyone will 100% excuse and ignore and justify the fact that Trump released the aid last week when this story started gaining traction though.

So IMHO - they think they can win the argument.  They think they have the American public on the proposition that it's OK for the President to ask a foreign government to open an investigation of a political opponent or their family.  They think they can defend the timing of the aid being provided last week and make the story about Biden attempts to influence Ukraine when he was VP to not investigate.

Anyone thinking Mitch grew a spine or grew a heart or is somehow doing the right thing for 'Merica has not been paying attention.  He knows he wins the argument if he lets it all play out.  Either because the WB complaint is nothing or because they think they win the debate/argument or maybe because Trump is dead in the water and its worse than anyone knows so best to jump ship now.  So yeah, put me down in the they think they win the argument column.

Edited September 24, 2019 by deech

[Bama Chick 28596]

[bolverk 30313]

 

[brown water 3788]

4 minutes ago, Lagunamadre said:

I'd say the whole Senate bill deal means one of two things:

1) The whistleblower complaint does not have legs to it and Mitch knows that and this will embarrass the media and Democrats. 

2) Trump is fucked. 

If I know Mitch like I think I know him, I'd have to think it would be closer to 1. 

Have we seen a Twitter tantrum from Trump?  The latest never that takes rather more 1 seems likely. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Political death would also be a positive for Trump

 

Edited September 24, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Pig Bellmont 8884]

1 minute ago, bolverk said:

 

lol ok

[Eastwood 4394]

23 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

What this tells me....is that the WB complaint is a nothing.

The GOP wouldn't vote to release something harmful.  And rest assured, the GOP leadership has all seen it already.

It's a win/win. Either it is nothing and impeachment goes nowhere... Or it is devastating and they can say that they were an integral part to getting this massive violation to Congress for action.

[atomheartbevo 90636]

28 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

well lookie there, bi-partisanship

 

[SimonBolivar 11062]

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