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I'm sure you took both sides of that debate. 

Crusher
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First off there was no extortion. That was not in the transcript. No quid pro quo. Why do you make up shit? Who do you think you are, Adam Schiff?  

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I spent a lot of time thinking about this, unfortunately. You have to have so little self-respect that you are ok being lied to over and over.  You have to be ok with being told what to do.  You

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My prediction is that they are waiting for a big Russian shoe to drop so that way they can pivot and say that their viewer base were the victims of Russia and their bought traitors. That way, their viewers aren't stupid, no... They and all of America were under attack and Trump was originally their champion but he was surrounded by traitors who misled him, and he collapsed under the pressure. What Fox needs is a reason that will make viewers think it was out of their control, that their viewers made the right vote originally, and that it was outside forces that screwed it all up. Hell, they'll even sprinkle in that Obama knew that Russia was coming and did nothing. They'll have the "1980s wants their foreign policy back" clip on repeat. Think of the line they say now that W was a good president, 9/11 fell into his lap, he did his best, but was misled by those around him. They also stated that Bill Clinton had Bin Laden in his grasp and let him go. It's not your fault, you made the right choice, forces out of your control made it all go sideways, and in fact, it was a D who started it all.

Fox is always ready to pivot. Hell, that's why they keep Shepherd Smith around. Once they finally pivot, they will air his clips to show they were onto it all along. By the time all this happens 4, 5 months down the road, their viewers will have forgotten all the thrashing the other 90% of their on-air people were doing over all this. Fox is just waiting to shoot their shot.

Taking these thoughts further, if the Republicans were smart they would go to Fox and orchestrate the takedown of Trump and the ascension of whoever they have waiting in the wings. It would probably work on all those Fox rubes.

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21 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Taking these thoughts further, if the Republicans were smart they would go to Fox and orchestrate the takedown of Trump and the ascension of whoever they have waiting in the wings. It would probably work on all those Fox rubes.

It could backfire and send the the rubes to OAN 

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3 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

 

 

 

4 hours ago, American Swindle said:

Forgot to bring in her expansion on the main point in her tweet:

 

While all this political/media class cheerleading for whistleblower protections is going on, the most prominent whistleblower in America remains imprisoned for taking a principled stand against secret grand juries while being driven into crippling debt. Chelsea Manning is still racking up fines of $1,000 per day while locked in a Virginia federal detention center for refusing to testify against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. The mainstream press that is so keen to champion a “whistleblower” who works for the CIA and provided information which feeds into America’s fake partisan pro wrestling feud has been almost completely silent on the actual whistleblower who exposed actual US war crimes.

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Fox News has hosts openly attacking one another on-air.  And Wallace, Smith, and Judge Neapolitan and the others who are either criticizing Trump, or his backers, are doing so with the support of management.   I’m guessing Tucker is being pressured by Trump, and feeding him info about Fox News goings-on, hence his little spat with Smith.   

Never fails to ruin my childhood mellorine memories.

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Francisco 2.0

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So, the Chinese now?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-he-raised-hunter-biden-allegations-with-his-china-go-between/2019/09/27/c85fbb8e-e152-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html

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President Trump, who has alleged that Hunter Biden got the Chinese to put $1.5 billion into an investment fund, said during private remarks this week that he raised the matter with a U.S. executive who has served as his intermediary on trade talks with Beijing.

Trump’s comments could attract interest in light of the impeachment inquiry underway by House Democrats. That investigation focuses on the president’s effort to extract information about Hunter Biden’s job on a Ukrainian gas company’s board at a time when his father was overseeing U.S. policy in that country. Given Trump’s comments, investigators may want to learn whether the president similarly sought information about the Bidens in China.

 

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In remarks to the U.S. Mission to the United Nations on Thursday morning, Trump said he discussed Biden’s China work with Stephen Schwarzman, the chief executive of the investment company Blackstone.

“I was with the head of Blackstone . . . Steve Schwarzman,” Trump said, according to a video of the remarks obtained by The Washington Post. After alleging that Hunter Biden got $1.5 billion from the Chinese, Trump said he asked Schwarzman, “Steve, is that possible?” Trump said Schwarzman asked, “Who got that?” and Trump responded, “Biden’s son.”

 

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Trump said he asked Schwarzman how that could happen, and the executive responded: “Maybe I shouldn’t get involved, you know it’s very political.”

Schwarzman declined to comment. His spokeswoman, Jennifer Friedman, said in a statement that “Steve never spoke to the President about Joe Biden or his family, nor has he had any conversations with the Chinese about Biden or his family.”

Schwarzman wrote in his just-published autobiography, “What It Takes,” that he traveled to Beijing eight times in 2018 “on behalf” of the Trump administration during trade negotiations. He is unofficially known as Trump’s “China whisperer.”

 

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-told-russian-officials-in-2017-he-wasnt-concerned-about-moscows-interference-in-us-election/2019/09/27/b20a8bc8-e159-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html

 

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President Trump told two senior Russian officials in a 2017 Oval Office meeting that he was unconcerned about Moscow’s interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election because the United States did the same in other countries, an assertion that prompted alarmed White House officials to limit access to the remarks to an unusually small number of people, according to three former officials with knowledge of the matter.

The comments, which have not been previously reported, were part of a now-infamous meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, in which Trump revealed highly classified information that exposed a source of intelligence on the Islamic State. He also said during the meeting that firing FBI Director James B. Comey the previous day had relieved “great pressure” on him.

 

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A memorandum summarizing the meeting was limited to all but a few officials with the highest security clearances in an attempt to keep the president’s comments from being disclosed publicly, according to the former officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.

 

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The White House’s classification of records about Trump’s communications with foreign officials is now a central part of the impeachment inquiry launched this week by House Democrats. An intelligence community whistleblower has alleged that the White House placed a record of Trump’s July 25 phone call with Ukraine’s president, in which he offered U.S. assistance investigating his political opponents, into a code-word classified system reserved for the most sensitive intelligence information.

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The White House did not provide a comment Friday.

It is not clear whether a memo documenting the May 10, 2017, meeting with Lavrov and Kislyak was placed into that system, but the three former officials said it was restricted to a very small number of people. The White House had recently begun limiting the records of Trump’s calls after remarks he made to the leaders of Mexico and Australia appeared in news reports. The Lavrov memo was restricted to an even smaller group, the former officials said.

A fourth former official, who did not recall the president’s remarks to the Russian officials, said memos were restricted only to people who needed to know their contents.

“It was more about learning how can we restrict this in a way that still informs the policy process and the principals who need to engage with these heads of state,” the fourth former official said.

But the three former officials with knowledge of the remarks said some memos of the president’s communications were kept from people who might ordinarily have access to them. The Lavrov memo fit that description, they said.

White House officials were particularly distressed by Trump’s election remarks because it appeared the president was forgiving Russia for an attack that had been designed to help elect him, the three former officials said. Trump also seemed to invite Russia to interfere in other countries’ elections, they said.

The previous day, Trump had fired Comey amid the FBI’s investigation into whether the Trump campaign had coordinated with Russia. White House aides worried about the political ramifications if Trump’s comments to the Russian officials became public.

Trump had publicly ridiculed the Russia investigation as politically motivated and said he doubted Moscow had intervened in the election. By the time he met with Lavrov and Kislyak, Trump had been briefed by the most senior U.S. intelligence officials about the Russian operation, which was directed by Russian President Vladi­mir Putin and included the theft and publication of Democratic emails and the seeded of propaganda in social-media, according to the findings of the U.S. intelligence community.

Trump’s firing of Comey touched off an investigation into whether the president had tried to obstruct the FBI’s probe. His comments about Comey’s dismissal being a relief, which were first reported the same month by the New York Times, reinforced suspicions that Trump dismissed Comey because the FBI was investigating him.

According to the fourth former official, Trump lamented to Lavrov that “all this Russia stuff” was detrimental to good relations. Trump also complained, “I could have a great relationship with you guys, but you know, our press,” this former official said, characterizing the president’s remarks.

H.R. McMaster, the president’s then-national security adviser, repeatedly told Trump he could not trust the Russians, according to two former officials.

On some areas, Trump conveyed U.S. policy in a constructive way, such as telling the Russians that their aggression in Ukraine was not good, one of those former officials said.

“What was difficult to understand was how they got a free pass on a lot of things — election security and so forth,” this former official said. “He was just very accommodating to them.”

The former official observed that Trump has “that streak of moral equivalency,” recalling how he once dismissed a question about the assassination of journalists and dissidents in Putin’s Russia by telling Fox News’s Bill O’Reilly, “There are a lot of killers. You think our country’s so innocent?”

Another former official said Trump wasn’t the only one to conflate Russia’s interference in the U.S. elections with U.S. efforts to promote democracy and good governance abroad.

The president and his top aides seemed not to understand the difference between Voice of America, a U.S.-supported news organization that airs in foreign countries, with Russian efforts to persuade American voters by surreptitiously planting ads in social media, this person said.

One former senior official said Trump regularly defended Russia’s actions, even in private, saying no country is pure. “He was always defensive of Russia,” this person said, adding the president had never made such a specific remark about interference in their presence.

 

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40 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:


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https://www.npr.org/2017/10/27/560308997/irs-apologizes-for-aggressive-scrutiny-of-conservative-groups

Wasn’t just conservative groups. It was political groups in general.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/politics/irs-targeting-tea-party-liberals-democrats.amp.html

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Benedict J. Trump.
I'm thinking there's gonna be some shit dropping over the next several weeks that people have been sitting on and now is the time to get it out before they find their ass in a sling.
 
 

There may be something to this. When the spigot opens, you’ve got cover being in the flow.
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56 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:


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https://www.npr.org/2017/10/27/560308997/irs-apologizes-for-aggressive-scrutiny-of-conservative-groups

Lulz. This apology brought to you by Jeff Sessions and Jay Sekulow. 

After the IRS confession in 2013, its top echelons were quickly cleaned out. Conservative groups sued. Congressional Republicans launched what became years of hearings, amid allegations the Obama White House had ordered the targeting.

How'd that turn out? Seems if they found a connection to Obama we would've heard about it. 

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You know, this may very well be one of the greatest scandals in Presidential history; on par with Watergate and the Teapot Dome Scandal.  But who here wouldn't be surprised if Trump just decided next Thursday to pardon everyone who worked in the Whitehouse from January 20, 2017 until present day?  Just a big blanket pardon of everyone.  

While that alone would be scandalous enough, what's to stop him?  His conscience? His morals?  His dignity?  Hell, he has none of those.  He, with a straight face, can say he is doing this to stop the godless Democrat party from ruining this great country, and 40% will eat it up.

We all know without a doubt he's been thinking of how to pardon himself and his family.  

 

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2 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

A historic scandal and, let’s be honest, not the least bit surprising.  

Maybe so but Johnny Sack thinks he’s doing a great job. Didn’t vote for trump but now he will. You know, tax cuts and all. 

Whoever the next president is should make sure that guys like the sack lose almost all their money. All of it. 

All of it. 

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5 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

You know, this may very well be one of the greatest scandals in Presidential history; on par with Watergate and the Teapot Dome Scandal.  But who here wouldn't be surprised if Trump just decided next Thursday to pardon everyone who worked in the Whitehouse from January 20, 2017 until present day?  Just a big blanket pardon of everyone.  

While that alone would be scandalous enough, what's to stop him?  His conscience? His morals?  His dignity?  Hell, he has none of those.  He, with a straight face, can say he is doing this to stop the godless Democrat party from ruining this great country, and 40% will eat it up.

We all know without a doubt he's been thinking of how to pardon himself and his family.  

 

Riots would be justified 

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I didn't realize that Trump's regular look, sans makeup or tanner, is identical to the aliens in "They Live."  

Makes total sense now.  

Also, to Goredho's point...visiting Baptists who are also Trump voters.  Good lord, I thought my in-law weekends were rough.  Peace be with you...

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You know, this may very well be one of the greatest scandals in Presidential history; on par with Watergate and the Teapot Dome Scandal.  But who here wouldn't be surprised if Trump just decided next Thursday to pardon everyone who worked in the Whitehouse from January 20, 2017 until present day?  Just a big blanket pardon of everyone.  
While that alone would be scandalous enough, what's to stop him?  His conscience? His morals?  His dignity?  Hell, he has none of those.  He, with a straight face, can say he is doing this to stop the godless Democrat party from ruining this great country, and 40% will eat it up.
We all know without a doubt he's been thinking of how to pardon himself and his family.  
 
Can you issue just a generic blanket pardon or do you have to specify what exactly is being pardoned? I'm too lazy to look it up.
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