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5 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

You asking for evidence while ignoring circumstantial evidence is infuriating. If you were in a windowless room and someone walked in with a wet umbrella, you’d be screaming for proof that it’s raining. Do me this favor though, Where is the word for word transcript and how did it get there?

There might be a busted water pipe in the hall way to the windowless room. No proof it's raining outside?

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I'm sure you took both sides of that debate. 

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First off there was no extortion. That was not in the transcript. No quid pro quo. Why do you make up shit? Who do you think you are, Adam Schiff?  

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14 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

You asking for evidence while ignoring circumstantial evidence is infuriating. If you were in a windowless room and someone walked in with a wet umbrella, you’d be screaming for proof that it’s raining. Do me this favor though, Where is the word for word transcript and how did it get there?

And I say "Is it raining outside"?

You respond "How dare you ask me that. I will not provide evidence it is raining". 

It might be raining. It might not. But for damn sure you're a fucking lunatic.

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1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

It's a piece of circumstantial evidence which can be used by a finder of fact to make a determination that it is raining outside. 

Circumstantial evidence is all you and all the jackasses that you appear to lead (with a little help from Hugo) appear to have.

What do you really think is going to happen? I will tell you what I think is going to happen.

1. Trump will get Impeached in the House.

2. Trump will get acquitted in the Senate.

3. Trump will get re-elected by about a 70-30 margin in 2020.

What happens after that I guess is up to the knuckleheads everywhere in the country. The majority of the people in this country are not ready for socialism or globalism. To effect globalism you must bring down the USA not raise up the rest of the world. It is impossible.

Even the most deplorable citizens of the USA know they it have better than most of the world. You are not gonna convince them otherwise.

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3 minutes ago, Crusher said:

Circumstantial evidence is all you and all the jackasses that you appear to lead (with a little help from Hugo) appear to have.

What do you really think is going to happen? I will tell you what I think is going to happen.

1. Trump will get Impeached in the House.

2. Trump will get acquitted in the Senate.

3. Trump will get re-elected by about a 70-30 margin in 2020.

What happens after that I guess is up to the knuckleheads everywhere in the country. The majority of the people in this country are not ready for socialism or globalism. To effect globalism you must bring down the USA not raise up the rest of the world. It is impossible.

Even the most deplorable citizens of the USA know they it have better than most of the world. You are not gonna convince them otherwise.

When people who actually heard the phone call testify as to the contents of the transcript, then it will be direct evidence.

There are also more phone calls that were inappropriately classified.

Donald Trump is in a bad spot. 

But good luck with your talking points.

 

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15 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

When people who actually heard the phone call testify as to the contents of the transcript, then it will be direct evidence.

There are also more phone calls that were inappropriately classified.

Donald Trump is in a bad spot. 

But good luck with your talking points.

 

Who are these people and when would they testify? The same people that heard the Ukrainian call live and didn't have a problem with it and didn't file a whistleblower complaint?

You guys are reaching. Reaching so bad. 

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7 minutes ago, Crusher said:

Who are these people and when would they testify? The same people that heard the Ukrainian call live and didn't have a problem with it and didn't file a whistleblower complaint?

You guys are reaching. Reaching so bad. 

Yes. Those people. They are going to be called in to testify.

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We do that all the time. Ever heard of a treaty? Or a trade agreement? Dunce..


Lol. Now I know you’re not serious.

You: But Obama investigated political rivals!

Me: Maybe, but the big difference would be that he didn’t get help from a foreign government to do so.

You: We get help from other countries for stuff all the time though!

It’s the combination of the two that’s not “OK”.

This is such a bizarre exchange to be having with an adult smart enough to use a computer/smart phone, which is a pretty low bar.
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1 minute ago, scottsins said:

 


Now you don’t know what “transcript” means. Are you for real or is this a bit?

 

There is no recording of the conversation. So a "transcript" in this case is 5 people with pad and paper. After the call they all get together and combine their notes. That becomes the "transcript". 

Are you calling all 5 of those folks liars? 

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3 hours ago, Crusher said:

Yes I did. Here is where you can read it if you would like to refresh your memory. It's on the NPR link below:

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/25/764164340/trump-asked-ukrainian-president-for-a-favor-on-biden-doj-says-no-charges

 

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Still pretending to not know what the English word “transcript” means.

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1 hour ago, Thetexashammer said:

It's right here: https://docs.google.com/viewerng/viewer?url=https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

It got there because Trump released it.

I beg to differ. It is the facts that are infuriating. I get that you think it was a quid pro quo. You really, really want it to be. But your personal preference has no influence on the burden of proof. You are still required to present evidence.

Negged for either being too stupid to know what a simple word means or deliberate obfuscation.  You pick.

TRANSCRIPT.

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8 minutes ago, Crusher said:

There is no recording of the conversation. So a "transcript" in this case is 5 people with pad and paper. After the call they all get together and combine their notes. That becomes the "transcript". 

Are you calling all 5 of those folks liars? 

Still catching up with your nonsense.  I’ll stop after this.  You actually make a correct assertion!  There is no “recording”.  There IS, however, an actual transcript of the call.  It’s locked in some super secret server, and STILL has not been released by the WH.

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7 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

You seem to be a lot concerned.

Yes I am.

I thought my last reply to you would have clued you in to what I am actually about.

Trump is a tool. Useful at the moment.

I just disagree with a movement that seems to be trying to sweep the USA away. 

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23 minutes ago, The People’s Elbow said:

No. Just you. 

Well. Show some proof that I am a liar.

If not you are an asshole who just jumps into threads where he feels safe that no one will fight back because you have smarter people than you covering your back.

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1 hour ago, Crusher said:

Circumstantial evidence is all you and all the jackasses that you appear to lead (with a little help from Hugo) appear to have.

What do you really think is going to happen? I will tell you what I think is going to happen.

1. Trump will get Impeached in the House.

2. Trump will get acquitted in the Senate.

3. Trump will get re-elected by about a 70-30 margin in 2020.

What happens after that I guess is up to the knuckleheads everywhere in the country. The majority of the people in this country are not ready for socialism or globalism. To effect globalism you must bring down the USA not raise up the rest of the world. It is impossible.

Even the most deplorable citizens of the USA know they it have better than most of the world. You are not gonna convince them otherwise.

70 -30 might be the most incredibly fucking stupid thing anyone has ever posted on this site, and @Johnny Sack still posts here.

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32 minutes ago, Crusher said:

Yes I am.

I thought my last reply to you would have clued you in to what I am actually about.

Trump is a tool. Useful at the moment.

I just disagree with a movement that seems to be trying to sweep the USA away. 

Sorry, I seem to have missed your opus.

You believe that the people fighting Drumph are trying to “sweep the USA away”?

Fuck yourself with a chainsaw.

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11 minutes ago, VRHorn said:

Sorry, I seem to have missed your opus.

You believe that the people fighting Drumph are trying to “sweep the USA away”?

Fuck yourself with a chainsaw.

Well I guess this is where are. I have given a little of my self here, how bout you tell me where you are coming from?

I can't believe that all you have for your cause is "fuck you with a chainsaw". Yuk Yuk

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32 minutes ago, VRHorn said:

70 -30 might be the most incredibly fucking stupid thing anyone has ever posted on this site, and @Johnny Sack still posts here.

Well, we will see. 

I can't believe that you took the time to go back and neg every single post I made tonight.

You really should charge me some rent.  How bout 5$  a post.

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1 hour ago, scottsins said:

Still catching up with your nonsense.  I’ll stop after this.  You actually make a correct assertion!  There is no “recording”.  There IS, however, an actual transcript of the call.  It’s locked in some super secret server, and STILL has not been released by the WH.

lulz at 5 guys with a pad and pen. someone didn’t get their talking points straight. 

the sitroom has a voice recognition readout of the actual transcript. what was released was a summary they thought would clear them, because they’re buffoons. 

the transcript is on a code-word server reserved for matters of national security, not embarrassing/illegal phone calls. 

misusing this server is evidence of a cover-up. someone without clearance put it there. also not legal. it’s been used several times before - again, not ok. 

stick with your whataboutism, it’s your only possible way to jumble the nonsense and confuse the rubes. shit, it’s worked so far. 

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2 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

lulz at 5 guys with a pad and pen. someone didn’t get their talking points straight. 

the sitroom has a voice recognition readout of the actual transcript. what was released was a summary they thought would clear them, because they’re buffoons. 

the transcript is on a code-word server reserved for matters of national security, not embarrassing/illegal phone calls. 

misusing this server is evidence of a cover-up. someone without clearance put it there. also not legal. it’s been used several times before - again, not ok. 

stick with your whataboutism, it’s your only possible way to jumble the nonsense and confuse the rubes. shit, it’s worked so far. 

OK Henry I'll Bite: If this is such a super secret why are you telling everyone on the board about it?

Wow.. are you Secret Service? I am so impressed.

 

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1 minute ago, henrygandorf said:

seriously?  it was all over the news since last night/this morning. go back a few pages, it’s not a secret. 

 OK.. So what does it mean? Tell me how Trump broke the law. Just once? What has Trump done that has broken the law, Not what you think , but what you can prove!!!

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2 minutes ago, Crusher said:

 OK.. So what does it mean? Tell me how Trump broke the law. Just once? What has Trump done that has broken the law, Not what you think , but what you can prove!!!

it’s not my job to prove anything, we’re just discussing. the investigation has just begun, even though trump and rudy have already inadvertently confessed to breaking the law.

are you looking for someone to explain things to you?  the ukraine call?  the server?  rudy’s special purpose?  who paid for what?

or is this a broader question where we should cover emoluments and obstruction?

holding back aid until he sees if ukraine president will play ball and open an investigation into a domestic political rival is abuse of power. asking or pressuring, doesn’t matter, can’t do it. congressmen can’t even take personal phone calls or discuss campaign contributions in certain office hallways. this is not man, there are rules.

using a code-word server for matters not pertaining to national security isn’t illegal, but points to a cover-up because someone else was smart enough to know people shouldn’t see it. however only trump can classify or declassify like that, and he said it was a perfect phone call, which tells me someone trying to protect him broke the law (anyone else sensing a trend here?). now it’s come out that the server was used for other non-national security reasons. calls with russia and saudi. this opens the door to a potential river of shit. 

i can keep going, but you really should read the complaint and get caught up. it was a really busy couple days. this is just the beginning of evidence and inquiry phase. subpoenas have just started. oh, and these you can’t just ignore. 

and once it comes out that pompeo and rudy weren’t on the same page, one of them is fucked, likely rudy, who won’t stop digging his own grave. and if taxpayers/creep paid for his trips, well, that’s not great, bob. 

if you’re looking for illegal shit, it’s everywhere.  if you’re looking for people positive he’ll get removed over it, that’s a whole other thing  

i’m off to bed. get your homework done and we can chat more tomorrow. 

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Yes I am.

I thought my last reply to you would have clued you in to what I am actually about.

Trump is a tool. Useful at the moment.

I just disagree with a movement that seems to be trying to sweep the USA away. 

You are a fucking piece of shit and traitor. The only people trying to wash away our values and country are Republicans and Trumpkins like you. Go fuck yourself.

 

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4 hours ago, Crusher said:

Man wake up. Everyone knows that the Repubs started the Dossier and the Dems took it up a notch with the DNC cut out law firm  Perkins Coie  and Fusion GPS.  

Well, maybe not if all you have been watching MSNBC and CNN. You will find out what really happened when Barr's report on FISA abuse come out.

Personally I think this is what all this Ukrainian shit is about. Trying to make one last splash before the truth comes out.

Barr has about as much credibility as you.   Keep flailing away.  Trumpkins are so cute when they go from orange to purple. 

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2 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

lulz at 5 guys with a pad and pen. someone didn’t get their talking points straight. 

the sitroom has a voice recognition readout of the actual transcript. what was released was a summary they thought would clear them, because they’re buffoons. 

the transcript is on a code-word server reserved for matters of national security, not embarrassing/illegal phone calls. 

misusing this server is evidence of a cover-up. someone without clearance put it there. also not legal. it’s been used several times before - again, not ok. 

stick with your whataboutism, it’s your only possible way to jumble the nonsense and confuse the rubes. shit, it’s worked so far. 

Wait.  Your last paragraph, was that meant for me?  The fuck?  Where is my whataboutism in my post.  I was telling the troll that there is an actual transcript, so lack of a recording does not necessitate relying on the bullshit memorandum.

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After retiring early, I wake up to a whole lot of back and forth. I'm a bit of a Luddite, so whenever y'all start discussing the server/memo/transcript stuff, I picture some low level aid in a windowless room doing this:

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So, to make sure I understand this. The phone call is/was recorded/transcribed and the transcription is placed on a server normally reserved for highly sensitive classified info that a normal phone call would not be usually placed due to the extreme restricted access to said server? And that the placement of this call(s) is unusual because of the security over-rides (or whatever they are called)? And that the WH released a memo not a verbatim transcript?

Not trolling, just trying to keep up. The media keeps parsing words about this and that and if someone has a reliable source for a description of what actually went down, please post a link. Keeping up with the news dump has been hard this week!

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Its really interesting how only certain posters throw sand into the gears to disrupt actual, substantive conversation. Crusher isn't even trying to be part of the conversation, he just wants to hijack the thread to spout the whitehouse talking points memo. 

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Man wake up. Everyone knows that the Repubs started the Dossier and the Dems took it up a notch with the DNC cut out law firm  Perkins Coie  and Fusion GPS.  
Well, maybe not if all you have been watching MSNBC and CNN. You will find out what really happened when Barr's report on FISA abuse come out.
Personally I think this is what all this Ukrainian shit is about. Trying to make one last splash before the truth comes out.


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