What's going on with this DNI Whistleblower ?

[lemonlime 5,503]

They need to stop putting those liars on air.  They're proven liars.  Once they tell a lie, the segment should be cut. There is nothing of anyone could take of value by seeing Gym Jordan lie, and Tapper argue with him.   

[Junior Miller 1,502]

1 hour ago, pantone159 said:

Yes, no matter what the investigation comes up with, the Senate will do nothing and there will be no impeachment trial. The end.

 

If the American people weren't so ridiculously stupid that would be the worst play he could make. If the Senate did nothing then the people blast the republicans in 2020 knocking every branch to the democrats and a newly Democrat led DOJ comes hard after trump and all his idiot co-conspirators with charges. The correct play if the American people weren't complete idiots would be to dump trump now, make him the fall guy, and run on "real family values" bullshit to have a chance in 2020. 

In the end it's the complete idiocy of the American people that allow the abject corruption to continue and eventually bring about the financial collapse of the country.  

Edited September 29, 2019 by Junior Miller

[triplehorn 2,664]

 

[Mdhorn 5,858]

49 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Watching the replay of the entire Jordan/tapper interview. Painful.  Jordan is making up new facts (lies) about the timeline.  When tapper tries to correct Jordan, his only reply is that tapper is ignoring the main point. You can’t support your main point with fake facts.  

And I agree that hunter Biden getting paid by a Ukrainian company is suspect but back it up with facts. 

same thing on Meet the Press this morning.  They Kellyanne Conwayed it up regardless of the question.  After a few futile attempts, Chuck just lets them spew unabated which again, only benefits them.  However, it ends with them asking if Biden should go on checker and the Republican blowhole says yeah, along with Hunter.  Fine, but wtf don't the all agree on Trump going on with his children?  Why is logic and checks only applied one way?   They all effectively said this can hurt both sides.  Why?  Chuck or any of the Dems or press on the panel, in response to all of this being a witch hunt or harassment, ask if so, why have there been so many arrests on Trumps election team?  These were tried in courts of law with irrefutable evidence. Ask them what actual evidence do they have of there being anything on Hunter? If we're so concerned with Biden's son, why aren't we applying this to Trump's family members?  I give a fuck less about Biden.  Had they anything, do they think Trump, Nunes, Jordan or any of those jackasses could've sat on it this long?   

Edited September 29, 2019 by Mdhorn

[David Dennison 18,344]

 

[Welch 635]

 

[Pancho 44,008]

3 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

I don't know how Jake Tapper didn't just throw Jordan off the set, or just punch him.

You could tell Tapper was close...

[Bama Chick 28,596]

[Biff Tannen 45,384]

Ok cool, hook em.

[Bama Chick 28,596]

[Red Five 40,571]

2 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

 

Probably a good idea, what with the president making threats and all. 

[SameSame 1,677]

Watching 60 minutes and if you didn't know it before it is pretty clear that Kevin McCarthy is a vapid dipshit.

[mchookem 15,744]

60 minutes tryna gimme an anxiety attack tonight. that was...well laid out, verifiable dates, official transcripts, phone records.

feels like we need to buckle up 

[Message Board User 12,386]

15 minutes ago, SameSame said:

Watching 60 minutes and if you didn't know it before it is pretty clear that Kevin McCarthy is a vapid dipshit.

Gil Bang will have to help us out - wtf are the people like in the district that voted for this dipshit?

He's a hairier Louie Gohmert.

[Francisco 2.0 32,289]

It's come to this.

The President of the United States is implying a death penalty for a sitting US Congressman, while a whistleblower is hidden in federal custody to protect their life.

If you are a congressional member of the GOP, and you just shrug your shoulders, you have no business holding the office you occupy.

If you are a voter who supports this, then you should have your voting rights taken away.

 

[SmokeyTheBear 5,562]

38 minutes ago, mchookem said:

60 minutes tryna gimme an anxiety attack tonight. that was...well laid out, verifiable dates, official transcripts, phone records.

feels like we need to buckle up 

Cliffs? 

[Degenerate Gardner 4,065]

4 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

 

[Francisco 2.0 32,289]

Ladies and Gentlemen, the House Minority Leader.  Take it away, Mr. McCarthy:

 

 

 

Edit.  Wanted to add this as well:

 

 

 

 

Edited September 30, 2019 by Francisco 2.0

[Degenerate Gardner 4,065]

4 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Ladies and Gentlemen, the House Minority Leader.  Take it away, Mr. McCarthy:

 

 

 

McCarthy's clearly got his sights set on a spot on Dancing with the Stars, which is the clearest path to being Sec of Energy.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13,516]

Wish he would have whipped out a "Remember that one time, when you were tape recorded, and you said you thought Trump was being paid by the Russians and then Paul Ryan said let's not tell anyone about this?"

[jimmyjazz 45,328]

I am now actively shedding long-term friends.  Fuck 'em.  I have my family, and that's all I care about.  Everyone else can step up or fuck off.

[triplehorn 2,664]

 

Dmitry Firtash, a Putin-linked Ukrainian oligarch, is currently holed up in Austria, out of jail on $172M bail, fighting extradition to the US to face felony bribery charges.

 

[HenryJames 65,793]

13 minutes ago, triplehorn said:

$172M bail

#humblebrag

[Hornmatic 245]

12 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

 

 

This is the type of old fashioned political corruption I'm used to and wish we could go back to.  

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,355]

 

[deech 2,248]

3 hours ago, SameSame said:

Watching 60 minutes and if you didn't know it before it is pretty clear that Kevin McCarthy is a vapid dipshit.

He has to read the transcript and know Trump does or does not ask for a favor.

[PsychMike 1,537]

3 hours ago, SameSame said:

Watching 60 minutes and if you didn't know it before it is pretty clear that Kevin McCarthy is a vapid dipshit.

Yeah, that blunder when he said that the point of the Republican-led Benghazi committee was to sink Clinton’s presidential bid? Cost him the Speaker job. What an idiot!

[HenryJames 65,793]

 

[Woland 729]

 

When the government of Ukraine is more ethical than that of the United States...

[Chooky 13,287]

44 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

Kind of odd for them to use a photograph of the former prosecutor wearing his Mickey Rooney 'Breakfast at Tiffany's' costume. 

[Gap03 3,223]

11 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Ladies and Gentlemen, the House Minority Leader.  Take it away, Mr. McCarthy:

 

 

I was really hoping that some shows would start doing a side-by-side of the interviews and the talking points memo, where they highlighted each of the talking points as the Republicans hit each of them in succession.  It would really drive home the GOP MO of just repeating their bullshit talking points over and over and over until the idiots start believing them.

Edited September 30, 2019 by Gap03
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[Nice Guy Eddie 13,385]

When the facts don’t help you, argue about the process.   

To me the whistleblower and their identity seem like a pointless issue now. Their total knowledge is now on their complaint and we have the phone transcript.  Unless they have more info which is possible. 

Trump is being trump in that his guy reaction is to attempt to scare the whistleblower or future whistleblowers.  Speak up and I will ruin your life. It’s why his main business tactic is to file lawsuits.

[Dahobbs 17,314]

30 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

When the facts don’t help you, argue about the process.   

To me the whistleblower and their identity seem like a pointless issue now. Their total knowledge is now on their complaint and we have the phone transcript.  Unless they have more info which is possible. 

Trump is being trump in that his guy reaction is to attempt to scare the whistleblower or future whistleblowers.  Speak up and I will ruin your life. It’s why his main business tactic is to file lawsuits.

God damn it, we dont have the transcript. We have a summary. I would love to see the actual transcript. 

[Junior Miller 1,502]

1 hour ago, Dahobbs said:

God damn it, we dont have the transcript. We have a summary. I would love to see the actual transcript. 

You know, if trump believed he were truly innocent here there's one simple way to prove it.  Release the transcript and any recording that may exist for everyone to see. Give America access to the entire call. The evidence is there to prove an innocent man innocent and he has it. 

Oh, except he's completely guilty and releasing the call would prove he's guilty. 

Edited September 30, 2019 by Junior Miller

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3,861]

4 minutes ago, Junior Miller said:

You know, if trump believed he were truly innocent here there's one simple way to prove it.  Release the transcript and any recording that may exist for everyone to see. Give America access to the entire call. The evidence is there to prove an innocent man innocent and he has it. 

Oh, except he's completely guilty and releasing the call would prove he's guilty. 

 They aren't arguing that the transcript differs from the summary — That somehow they would be vindicated by the transcript in a way that the summary doesn’t. They claim the summary vindicates them itself.  

[jimmyjazz 45,328]

Minor point:  I don't believe the calls are "recorded".  Multiple officials listen in and take notes, which have not been released, but audio recording is apparently no longer a thing, no doubt in part due to Nixon's shenanigans.

[Js1 84,935]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Minor point:  I don't believe the calls are "recorded".  Multiple officials listen in and take notes, which have not been released, but audio recording is apparently no longer a thing, no doubt in part due to Nixon's shenanigans.

Israel already had cellphone surveillance near the White House.  Not out of the realm of possibility that a recording exist somewhere. 

[jimmyjazz 45,328]

Just now, Js1 said:

Israel already had cellphone surveillance near the White House.  Not out of the realm of possibility that a recording exist somewhere. 

OK, I wasn't referring to Donald's iPhone.  I was referring to official calls between Trump and foreign dignitaries -- the policy appears to be "no audio recording".

[Pig Bellmont 8,658]

23 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

The Trump presidency & McConnell leadership will ultimately lead to more constitutional amendments.  

When the Senate fails to advise & consent on scotus nominees or potentially stand as court in an impeachment trial, future presidents could ignore the senates authority since they subjectively apply their authority. 

They can’t refuse to hold a trial without voting to modify the current Senate rules. The politics on that vote would be absolutely fatal, so there will definitely be some kind of trial- it will most likely focus on Hunter Biden however 

[Junior Miller 1,502]

6 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

 They aren't arguing that the transcript differs from the summary — That somehow they would be vindicated by the transcript in a way that the summary doesn’t. They claim the summary vindicates them itself.  

Well then no need to hide the transcripts in a secured clearance location. Release them all and let the officials who wrote them testify to open session Congress about what they heard. 

What they claim doesn't matter because it's bullshit. They know he's guilty and the transcripts will prove it. That's why they tried to hide them. 

[jimmyjazz 45,328]

They're apparently hiding most, if not all, similar transcripts these days.  

[Junior Miller 1,502]

9 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Minor point:  I don't believe the calls are "recorded".  Multiple officials listen in and take notes, which have not been released, but audio recording is apparently no longer a thing, no doubt in part due to Nixon's shenanigans.

They probably aren't but with Dumb Watergate any level of stupidity is possible. 

[jimmyjazz 45,328]

This seems important.  I mean, if the KREMLIN says we need their consent to release Trump-Putin transcripts, then I guess we'll just have to wait for them to grant permission.  Damn the luck.

 

[DixonHur 10,951]

3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

This seems important.  I mean, if the KREMLIN says we need their consent to release Trump-Putin transcripts, then I guess we'll just have to wait for them to grant permission.  Damn the luck.

 

Too bad for Russia that DC has a one-party consent law.

[Chooky 13,287]

The old, Cold War, Reagan era, fighting American spirit would dictate politely asking for Russia's approval before moving forward with domestic criminal proceedings. 

[HenryJames 65,793]

#ChookyRhymesWithDooky

[Chooky 13,287]

Goddamnit.

[Red Five 40,571]

I'm assuming that at his next klan rally we'll be treated to chants of "fake whistleblower!" and "execute Schiff!". 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,385]

12 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

They can’t refuse to hold a trial without voting to modify the current Senate rules. The politics on that vote would be absolutely fatal, so there will definitely be some kind of trial- it will most likely focus on Hunter Biden however 

Is there a rule requiring the trial within a certain number of days?  McConnell didn't care about holding any SCOTUS nomination hearings or votes for close to a year. It would seem that there would be more rules around that as opposed to an impeachment trial as SCOTUS nominations are relatively frequent events.

[WhatTheBuck 28,690]

11 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

They're apparently hiding most, if not all, similar transcripts these days.  

"I'm the most transparent president in history."

Well, yeah, but not in the way that term is normally used.