Most of the SEC is outright crap

[Tex Pete 20188]

We don’t root for the conference. I don’t think you get it. I only give a shit about what Texas wins. We get zero credit for what OU wins. 

[Huckleberry 32710]

1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

We had seven years of championships with LSU Florida Auburn and Bama winning.  Point me to a conference with four National champs in forty years, let alone less than a decade.   I get that the SEC knob jobbing is annoying, and false.  But nobody else has come close to dominating the game as the SEC has in modern memory, so there will be some bullshit puffery and biased SEC promoting from ESPN.  No question. 

You don't have to like it, but you can't point to another conference that has accomplished near the achievements of the SEC in the last fifteen years.   Sucks, but whatchagonnado?

 

The Big 12 had 4 teams who had won  NC in about a 15 year period (Colorado, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas) . I don't remember all this bullshit being said then. 

[Gatorubet 30139]

1 hour ago, Huckleberry said:

The Big 12 had 4 teams who had won  NC in about a 15 year period (Colorado, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas) . I don't remember all this bullshit being said then. 

Nebraska was your Bama in the mid-90s, carrying the conference water 3 times.  And you and Okie had one each, 5 years apart (2000 & 2005).     The SEC had 7 in a row via four teams.   That is not even close to similar ownage of the sport.    It is not as relevant now, for sure, but it was impressive as hell  in the mid-2000s

As to the bullshit being said, there was little or no ESPN or cable or internet to push the corporate narrative like we have now.   That absence of chest thumping was not due to the inherent modesty of the Nebraska, Texas and Oklahoma programs.           

[Tex Pete 20188]

Carry the SEC water somewhere else. We don’t want to hear it. 

[TheFlyingBoat 906]

36 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Nebraska was your Bama in the mid-90s, carrying the conference water 3 times.  And you and Okie had one each, 5 years apart (2000 & 2005).     The SEC had 7 in a row via four teams.   That is not even close to similar ownage of the sport.    It is not as relevant now, for sure, but it was impressive as hell  in the mid-2000s

As to the bullshit being said, there was little or no ESPN or cable or internet to push the corporate narrative like we have now.   That absence of chest thumping was not due to the inherent modesty of the Nebraska, Texas and Oklahoma programs.           

I don't think anyone would accuse any of us of modesty. The difference between you and us is we don't brag about the accomplishments of others to make us feel good. You view Alabama's success, LSU's success, Auburn's success, etc. as a thing to brag about. We view OU's success, Nebraska's success, Colorado's success back in the day, etc. and bemoan it and view their success as our failure to prevent it. After all, OU can't win a national title if we win enough to stop them. I wish nothing but failure on OU.

[sushihorn 3233]

3 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

We had seven years of championships with LSU Florida Auburn and Bama winning.  Point me to a conference with four National champs in forty years, let alone less than a decade.   I get that the SEC knob jobbing is annoying, and false.  But nobody else has come close to dominating the game as the SEC has in modern memory, so there will be some bullshit puffery and biased SEC promoting from ESPN.  No question.   

You don't have to like it, but you can't point to another conference that has accomplished near the achievements of the SEC in the last fifteen years.   Sucks, but whatchagonnado?

 

Let's bring this back to the original point of the thread.  Do you not see the obvious correlation between having a conference full of doormats in reality combined with media hype to hide that weakness and the ability to get SELECTED to play for those titles?

The good SEC teams have 3-4 automatic wins OOC and 6-7 auto wins in conference.  Look at Georgia this year.  ND was the only possible OOC loss.  Unless Florida is much better than they've shown to date, Auburn will be Georgia's only real challenge before the CCG and they will make the SEC championship even if they lose that game.  They are essentially guaranteed 11 wins and in the regular season and a spot in the CCG at this point with 8 games still to be played.

In the Big XII there are a bunch of outstanding coaches that can make their 2nd tier talent into truly dangerous and occasionally dominant teams.  See Patterson at TCU and Gundy at OSU for longstanding examples.  ISU's Matt Campbell is headed in that same direction.  3 of the 1st year coaches have come from hugely over-achieving programs at lower levels.  KSU got Kleiman from ND State.  Tech hired Wells from Utah State and WVU got the coach who beat LSU while at Troy.

In the past, Texas and OU have had to face the likes of Leach at Tech, Art Briles at Baylor and the Purple Wizard at Kansas State.  Where are the comparable coaches at 2nd tier programs in the SEC?  They don't exist because those who become a real threat to the reigning powers get driven out like Huge Freeze at Ole Miss or Hal Mumme at Kentucky - both driven out for "violations" that were and are standard practice throughout the conference.  The message is clear: if you coach at a peasant program and threaten the aristocracy you will be destroyed.  There is a reason that good, ambitious coaches rarely go to designated doormat programs in the SEC and those that do don't stay long enough for the machine to mobilize against them.

Edited September 25, 2019 by sushihorn

[DigglerontheHoof 21079]

8 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

We had seven years of championships with LSU Florida Auburn and Bama winning.  Point me to a conference with four National champs in forty years, let alone less than a decade.   I get that the SEC knob jobbing is annoying, and false.  But nobody else has come close to dominating the game as the SEC has in modern memory, so there will be some bullshit puffery and biased SEC promoting from ESPN.  No question.   

You don't have to like it, but you can't point to another conference that has accomplished near the achievements of the SEC in the last fifteen years.   Sucks, but whatchagonnado?

 

Bama is the only real difference maker.  What they've done over the past decade is incredible.  The other teams are no better this century than Clemson, Texas, USC, OU and tOSU.  

One dominant team, three really good ones and a WHOLE bunch of overrated SECSECSEC bullshit who get the benefit of the doubt for what the upper tier has done.  Every year we get 6 or 7 SEC teams in the preseason poll and it skews the narrative for the whole year about how badass the SEC is.  Hell, look at aggy sitting in the top 25 with two losses that they didn't show a pulse in...but SEC!  Again, I say horse shit. 

[Dahobbs 17454]

Yeah, I mean one of those championships the SEC got selected to play itself. Another, 2008, Texas would have fucked up the fighting Tebows. 

[TornACL 7685]

Guys, what all of you fail to consider in this thread is that, in the SEC, it just MEANS MORE. 

[utee94 15746]

11 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

   Sucks, but whatchagonnado?

 

We're going to continue to point out the bullshittery and hypocrisy on our TEXAS message board.  This discussion is going to keep happening over and over until the mediots stop doing it.

Nobody here wants to hear you defend a bullshit system all whilst chanting SECSECSEC and telling us we just have to take it.  No, we don't.

And if you don't like that, leave.

[Ghost of Stevie Ray 1580]

10 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

The Big 12 had 4 teams who had won  NC in about a 15 year period (Colorado, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas) . I don't remember all this bullshit being said then. 

Not to mention teams like Texas Tech, Missouri, Kansas, Baylor and TCU all being ranked in the Top 5 at one point or another.

[El Hornarino 371]

2 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

Yeah, I mean one of those championships the SEC got selected to play itself. Another, 2008, Texas would have fucked up the fighting Tebows. 

If we are reviewing... By season, not when played:

2003 - LSU because USC wasn't in the game

2006 - Florida, but using SEC logic this game is an Ohio State, Michigan rematch

2007 - LSU because WVU wasn't in the game.

2008 - Florida because Texas or USC wasn't in the game.

2009 - Alabama because Colt

2010 - Auburn.  This is totally legitimate, mostly due to the genius of HC Chizik.  Also Cam Newton wanted to go to Auburn for the academics.

2011 - Peak SEC

2012 - Alabama plays a patsy.  Ohio State bowl ban because of tattoos, which were valued at > $120,000 (SEC limit per player).

2015 - Alabama.  This one is legitimate.

2017 - Alabama.  Four team single elimination is only semi-legitimate if you don't count results of the pseudo-early rounds in conference.

 

 

Edited September 25, 2019 by El Hornarino

[oSuJeff97 3435]

18 minutes ago, El Hornarino said:

If we are reviewing... By season, not when played:

2011 - Peak SEC

Yeah peak media SEC circle jerk for sure.

The title game that year should have been us against LSU and we would have wrecked them.

[BabaYaga 15215]

1 minute ago, oSuJeff97 said:

Yeah peak media SEC circle jerk for sure.

The title game that year should have been us against LSU and we would have wrecked them.

[GringoSalado 1651]

The only way to really settle this argument (about the relative strength of conferences) would be to swap a few teams from the Big XII into the SEC and see how they do. If, in this crazy hypothetical, say a mid pack Big XII team wins its SEC division after the swap, then we would have a good idea about which conference is tougher.

 

But that will never happen, so we have this thread.

[Magus Ossis 2784]

3 minutes ago, GringoSalado said:

The only way to really settle this argument (about the relative strength of conferences) would be to swap a few teams from the Big XII into the SEC and see how they do. If, in this crazy hypothetical, say a mid pack Big XII team wins its SEC division after the swap, then we would have a good idea about which conference is tougher.

 

But that will never happen, so we have this thread.

Bravo. We have only the mizzery of wishing such information were available.

Edited September 25, 2019 by Magus Ossis

[oSuJeff97 3435]

2 minutes ago, GringoSalado said:

The only way to really settle this argument (about the relative strength of conferences) would be to swap a few teams from the Big XII into the SEC and see how they do. If, in this crazy hypothetical, say a mid pack Big XII team wins its SEC division after the swap, then we would have a good idea about which conference is tougher.

 

But that will never happen, so we have this thread.

Well played, good sir.

[BabaYaga 15215]

11 minutes ago, GringoSalado said:

The only way to really settle this argument (about the relative strength of conferences) would be to swap a few teams from the Big XII into the SEC and see how they do. If, in this crazy hypothetical, say a mid pack Big XII team wins its SEC division after the swap, then we would have a good idea about which conference is tougher.

 

But that will never happen, so we have this thread.

[utee94 15746]

13 minutes ago, GringoSalado said:

The only way to really settle this argument (about the relative strength of conferences) would be to swap a few teams from the Big XII into the SEC and see how they do. If, in this crazy hypothetical, say a mid pack Big XII team wins its SEC division after the swap, then we would have a good idea about which conference is tougher.

 

But that will never happen, so we have this thread.

I mean obviously that would never happen.

But what if a really mediocre historical B12-South 4th-place finisher were placed in the SEC West and beat eventual national champ Alabama using nothing but B12-recruited talent?  

[TXSG8R 3360]

10 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

Nebraska was your Bama in the mid-90s, carrying the conference water 3 times.  And you and Okie had one each, 5 years apart (2000 & 2005).     The SEC had 7 in a row via four teams.   That is not even close to similar ownage of the sport.    It is not as relevant now, for sure, but it was impressive as hell  in the mid-2000s

As to the bullshit being said, there was little or no ESPN or cable or internet to push the corporate narrative like we have now.   That absence of chest thumping was not due to the inherent modesty of the Nebraska, Texas and Oklahoma programs.           

The bowl records during that span is what put the media slobbing over the top. Our bottom feeders were beating everyone else’s bottom feeders during that run (insert SEC bowl manipulation argument here).  People forget how biased ESPN was for the B10 in the early aughts. Kirk Herbstreit and ESPN pretty much went all in on trying to get an OSU/Michigan rematch in 06. There was some article in the early 2000s that talked about Jim Delany touring ESPN and how most of the staff were B10 grads. Game day is still an OSU guy, a Michigan guy, and an FSU guy, and Kirk and Desmond are still pretty big homers.  You also have to indict pretty much the entire media and a big chunk of coaches since they continue to rank the SEC so high.

The SEC is now very similar to other conferences. An alpha dog, couple of guys that might knock the alpha down in a year when the stars align, average through the middle, trash at the bottom. A big part of that is Saban. He has Bama so far out in front that everyone else is in the “best Bama in 4 years or move on to a coach who can” loop, which is self defeating. Kirby Smart had probably the best possible jump into a program with his recruiting success, and he still can’t get over the hump. Saban rode it out and will start choking him out on the trail again and Kirby will be looking for a new job by year 5.

[TXSG8R 3360]

10 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

Nebraska was your Bama in the mid-90s, carrying the conference water 3 times.  And you and Okie had one each, 5 years apart (2000 & 2005).     The SEC had 7 in a row via four teams.   That is not even close to similar ownage of the sport.    It is not as relevant now, for sure, but it was impressive as hell  in the mid-2000s

As to the bullshit being said, there was little or no ESPN or cable or internet to push the corporate narrative like we have now.   That absence of chest thumping was not due to the inherent modesty of the Nebraska, Texas and Oklahoma programs.           

The bowl records during that span is what put the media slobbing over the top. Our bottom feeders were beating everyone else’s bottom feeders during that run (insert SEC bowl manipulation argument here).  People forget how biased ESPN was for the B10 in the early aughts. Kirk Herbstreit and ESPN pretty much went all in on trying to get an OSU/Michigan rematch in 06. There was some article in the early 2000s that talked about Jim Delany touring ESPN and how most of the staff were B10 grads. Game day is still an OSU guy, a Michigan guy, and an FSU guy, and Kirk and Desmond are still pretty big homers.  You also have to indict pretty much the entire media and a big chunk of coaches since they continue to rank the SEC so high.

The SEC is now very similar to other conferences. An alpha dog, couple of guys that might knock the alpha down in a year when the stars align, average through the middle, trash at the bottom. A big part of that is Saban. He has Bama so far out in front that everyone else is in the “best Bama in 4 years or move on to a coach who can” loop, which is self defeating. Kirby Smart had probably the best possible jump into a program with his recruiting success, and he still can’t get over the hump. Saban rode it out and will start choking him out on the trail again and Kirby will be looking for a new job by year 5.

[Bama Llama 1447]

I was there when the "S-E-C! S-E-C!" chant was born.  It was almost an afterthought.  It happened in the Superdome in January of 1993 when Alabama pulled back the curtain on Miami. The game was almost dull with about five minutes to go and the outcome long decided.  Some bored group of drunks started it up - "S-E-C! S-E-C!"  and pretty soon it was thundering through the whole Dome.  It was pretty cool then but only because we were winning the mythical championship convincingly and undressing Miami in the process.  Now it's trite and overdone and obnoxious.  I haven't heard it during an SEC game in years.  Anyone claiming any conference is superior to another is full of shit.  

I have news for you.  Alabama is one Hawai'ian ACL injury away from the Liberty Bowl.  Wafer thin at LB, thin at RB, O Line adventures galore, pass rushers dropping like flies, PK can't even kick extra points straight.  LSU and the Boogereaters on the Plains may both beat us as it is.  No pessimist, just the way I see it.  You guys have been the burnt orange monsters of the midway for 70 years.  Bama has beaten UT what?  Once in half a dozen tries!  Excuse us if we enjoy some success now and again.

[Hank Chinaski 6310]

Nobody is disputing that Bama has been great under Saban, or that Florida was great under Meyer - or even that Auburn was great for one year when they bought the best player in the sport. 

What is fucking asinine is the common refrain by talking heads and idiot fans that implies that "SEC football" is an entirely different and superior) sport than what everyone else plays. You hear it all the time - "SEC speed," "SEC defenses," blah blah blah.

It's not that Alabama is overrated - it's that Vandy and Kentucky and Tennessee and South Carolina and Miss and MSU and A&M, and to a lesser extent Auburn and Georgia, are overrated because they play in the SEC. Most teams in that conference are wildly overrated. That's why it's annoying.

That and the fact that on-field results never seem to have any effect on this SEC dogma - Georgia lost to Texas because they were disinterested, not because their archaic offense was completely suffocated by better coaching when matched against similar athletes; Missouri, a perennial B12 also-ran wins the SEC East twice in its first 3 years in that conference; A&M's best years in the SEC were their first 2 - after defecting from the B12 (where they weren't particularly good); etc. 

 

[Bill Lumbergh 7171]

Nobody is disputing that Bama has been great under Saban, or that Florida was great under Meyer - or even that Auburn was great for one year when they bought the best player in the sport. 
What is fucking asinine is the common refrain by talking heads and idiot fans that implies that "SEC football" is an entirely different and superior) sport than what everyone else plays. You hear it all the time - "SEC speed," "SEC defenses," blah blah blah.
It's not that Alabama is overrated - it's that Vandy and Kentucky and Tennessee and South Carolina and Miss and MSU and A&M, and to a lesser extent Auburn and Georgia, are overrated because they play in the SEC. Most teams in that conference are wildly overrated. That's why it's annoying.
That and the fact that on-field results never seem to have any effect on this SEC dogma - Georgia lost to Texas because they were disinterested, not because their archaic offense was completely suffocated by better coaching when matched against similar athletes; Missouri, a perennial B12 also-ran wins the SEC East twice in its first 3 years in that conference; A&M's best years in the SEC were their first 2 - after defecting from the B12 (where they weren't particularly good); etc. 
 

This post should be copy and pasted every time the topic comes up. This addresses the entire thing perfectly.

[lemonandaturd 4285]

Which game will be better this weekend?

aggy vs arky

Oklahoma State vs. Kansas State 

OU vs Texas Tech.  

I've got Okie Lite vs. KState.  

 

[Burt Macklin 19000]

It’s obvious why gata fans are the ones trying to prop this myth up. Their team isn’t that good and has no business being ranked top 10, but they’ll feast on horrible teams like Miami, UK, Tenn, Vandy, and USC (plus 2 cup cakes in Towson and UT Martin) while probably going 0-3 against LSU, Auburn, and UGA but barely dropping in the rankings each loss. Maybe they’ll win one of those 3 if they’re lucky, but a top 50 team in the country could would win 8-9 games with their schedule. So they’ll get propped up by their conference as a top 15 team when a bunch of teams could accomplish the same record with their schedule.

 

[sidis 9769]

2 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

It’s obvious why gata fans are the ones trying to prop this myth up. Their team isn’t that good and has no business being ranked top 10, but they’ll feast on horrible teams like Miami, UK, Tenn, Vandy, and USC (plus 2 cup cakes in Towson and UT Martin) while probably going 0-3 against LSU, Auburn, and UGA but barely dropping in the rankings each loss. Maybe they’ll win one of those 3 if they’re lucky, but a top 50 team in the country could would win 8-9 games with their schedule. So they’ll get propped up by their conference as a top 15 team when a bunch of teams could accomplish the same record with their schedule.

 

you forgot powerhouse florida state to go along with the grueling gauntlet of towson (who the fuck is that?) and ut-martin.

[Catdaddyhorn 3444]

On 9/22/2019 at 5:02 PM, Butch Had Not said:

I'm not buying Georgia from a coaching position.  They can out talent everyone except Alabama and they have developed a reputation of being elite. With that said, kirby makes very questionable coaching decisions that get masked by the talent they have. Plus they play offense that is very generic but it works when they can push you around.

We showed what can happen when you don't get caught up in the mystique that everyone in sec buys into. 

Georgia's problem is Kirby Smart is sticking to Saban's old template from a decade ago. Not only is their offensive scheme dreadfully wasteful, but their defensive scheme does its damnedest to not generate any negative plays. Which given the talent level on that side of the ball is total malpractice.  Kirby's approach to the game will guarantee that they play games closer than necessary and will almost ensure that they're upset way more than they should be if he continues to employ this 1980s style of football. 

[MrPhlegm 3413]

We had seven years of championships with LSU Florida Auburn and Bama winning.  Point me to a conference with four National champs in forty years, let alone less than a decade.   I get that the SEC knob jobbing is annoying, and false.  But nobody else has come close to dominating the game as the SEC has in modern memory, so there will be some bullshit puffery and biased SEC promoting from ESPN.  No question.   
You don't have to like it, but you can't point to another conference that has accomplished near the achievements of the SEC in the last fifteen years.   Sucks, but whatchagonnado?
 

mooooooooo

[Catdaddyhorn 3444]

23 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

We had seven years of championships with LSU Florida Auburn and Bama winning.  Point me to a conference with four National champs in forty years, let alone less than a decade.   I get that the SEC knob jobbing is annoying, and false.  But nobody else has come close to dominating the game as the SEC has in modern memory, so there will be some bullshit puffery and biased SEC promoting from ESPN.  No question.   

You don't have to like it, but you can't point to another conference that has accomplished near the achievements of the SEC in the last fifteen years.   Sucks, but whatchagonnado?

 

The SEC's recent success has tracked right alongside the brand management work done by CBS and ESPN over the past 25 years. Ever since CBS lost NFC games to Fox back in 1994 or 1995 and signed their exclusive deal with the SEC the promotion of that league has netted unmatched results. The league's success over that duration of time is tied directly to their unparalleled exposure.  Give another entire conference that same level of brand support and you'll have similar results. 

Edited September 26, 2019 by Catdaddyhorn

[MrPhlegm 3413]

It’s obvious why gata fans are the ones trying to prop this myth up. Their team isn’t that good and has no business being ranked top 10, but they’ll feast on horrible teams like Miami, UK, Tenn, Vandy, and USC (plus 2 cup cakes in Towson and UT Martin) while probably going 0-3 against LSU, Auburn, and UGA but barely dropping in the rankings each loss. Maybe they’ll win one of those 3 if they’re lucky, but a top 50 team in the country could would win 8-9 games with their schedule. So they’ll get propped up by their conference as a top 15 team when a bunch of teams could accomplish the same record with their schedule.
 

gata is aggy. they, like most aggy skools, am simple people of the land,

you know,

morons.

This is SEC country...

[Deej 76587]

Good to see Mrs. Phlegm pop up again.

[MrPhlegm 3413]

Good to see Mrs. Phlegm pop up again.

that's swanny's grandma

[Armybrat 40752]

 Number?

[Mitch Cumsteen 18525]

3 hours ago, sidis said:

you forgot powerhouse florida state to go along with the grueling gauntlet of towson (who the fuck is that?) and ut-martin.

Not to defend Florida, but it's not their fault that Miami and FSU suck. You never know what you're going to get when schedules are made so far in advance. Sometimes you get a good program when they are down (see Texas ot win vs notre dame) sometimes you get an historically mediocre program at an unhistorically high point (see aggy vs Clemson).

Still, if the sec would just schedule a 9th conference game and disallow all the fcs games then this would sort itself out. That's the frustrating part of this to me. It's not the hype, it's the fact that they don't ever have to prove the hype. The best thing to happen to college football this season would be a one loss Bama being left out of the playoff because their strength of schedule is so bad. 

[Catdaddyhorn 3444]

Just now, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Not to defend Florida, but it's not their fault that Miami and FSU suck. You never know what you're going to get when schedules are made so far in advance. Sometimes you get a good program when they are down (see Texas ot win vs notre dame) sometimes you get an historically mediocre program at an unhistorically high point (see aggy vs Clemson).

Still, if the sec would just schedule a 9th conference game and disallow all the fcs games then this would sort itself out. That's the frustrating part of this to me. It's not the hype, it's the fact that they don't ever have to prove the hype. The best thing to happen to college football this season would be a one loss Bama being left out of the playoff because their strength of schedule is so bad. 

Unless Florida made those schedules 20 years ago lauding them for scheduling Miami is laughable. The Hurricanes have been down for a long fucking time. 

[NAVY 6739]

Phlegm has been bringing... er coughing up great commentary lately. No more fitLump picks though pls! Fucking gross 

Go Phlegm and hook’em! 

 

 

[Homercles 10205]

The SEC slobbering is just as bad, if not worse, in college baseball. Of course that sport has a legit playoff system, and when a Vandy wins the whole thing I tip my cap to them as it wasn’t earned via preseason polls, an extra non-con series against nobodies, endless talking heads floating the idea for 8 SEC teams to be magically voted into the CWS, or any other media inflated banter...

To get to the top you have to win your regional in double elimination, take 2/3 at a Super, avoid two losses in your bracket at the CWS and win the final series...despite how quirky baseball can be, you earn your way to that final dogpile.

That’s now how it works in D1 football, polls are a huge influencer and perception...with no real playoff system you can backdoor your way in with a few lucky bounces and hype.

[Deej 76587]

21 minutes ago, Homercles said:

The SEC slobbering is just as bad, if not worse, in college baseball. Of course that sport has a legit playoff system, and when a Vandy wins the whole thing I tip my cap to them as it wasn’t earned via preseason polls, an extra non-con series against nobodies, endless talking heads floating the idea for 8 SEC teams to be magically voted into the CWS, or any other media inflated banter...

To get to the top you have to win your regional in double elimination, take 2/3 at a Super, avoid two losses in your bracket at the CWS and win the final series...despite how quirky baseball can be, you earn your way to that final dogpile.

 

ESPN wants no part of that.

[MrPhlegm 3413]

Phlegm has been bringing... er coughing up great commentary lately. No more fitLump picks though pls! Fucking gross 
Go Phlegm and hook’em! 
 
 

jesus man don't do that.

it just encourages Phlegm.

[Homercles 10205]

ESPN wants no part of that.

 

Yeah I’m sure Finebaum would have a face herpes aneurysm on air if Coastal Carolina won it all while the #1 seed and only SEC team Florida went 0-2 BBQ like in 2016.

[Homercles 10205]

DP

[flatdawgs 1270]

2 hours ago, Armybrat said:

 Number?

4

[jinx 2635]

I will try to refrain from writing a novel, but I absolutely hate the SEC because I live right smack in the middle of it. I have a degree from UF (after Texas) and so does my wife, so I am not even ranting as an outsider necessarily. 

Everyone, and I mean everyone of my SEC friends have off handedly mentioned how Georgia didn't really seem interested in playing in the Sugar Bowl.  My wife mentioned it right after the game and she has no love for Georgia.  If Texas ever gave ANY inclination that they were not interested in playing in the SUGAR BOWL I would absolutely lose my shit.  But apparently Georgia didn't want to play Texas just like Bama didn't want to play Utah and UF didn't want to play Louisville.  Maybe they should abandon their tie to the Sugar Bowl completely.

The rankings piss me off weekly. We have Aggy hanging on to a top 25 ranking at 2-2 after proving absolutely nothing on the field.  On the flip side, OSU should have been ranked for our game last week.  The Big 12 went 3-1 against the SEC last year in bowls, but that seems irrelevant on the national scene, since half of the SEC is ranked while no more than 2 or 3 Big 12 teams get ranked.

The SEC has been Saban for over a decade, with a mix of Urban and a dash of sCam mixed in.  Sure they are good, and I would grant they may be the best many years, but  they get the benefit of the doubt regardless. Like the earlier poster noted, we get "SEC speed" and "SEC defense" shoved down our throats constantly.  

So just like a national title raises brand awareness, the SEC bias becomes a self fulfilling prophecy for the SEC.  All of these recruits believe the hype and go there.  I mean we have Zach Evans saying we barely beat UGA, and probably going there.  This has trickled down into all sports because they wisely take all the money they make and spend it on some of the best facilities in the nation.  And so the myth becomes reality in sports like baseball and softball.  A decade ago the SEC had a couple of good baseball teams and LSU.   Now they dominate in both softball and baseball.

I will give them full credit for building a brand by having the first conference championship and pushing the league unity and the SEC brand to the front years ago.  The Big 12 and their membership should learn some lessons from the SEC, no doubt.

But the idea that the SEC is the home of the premier brands and the others are just a bunch of lower class teams in lesser conferences is absolute bullshit.  

Rant over.  Didn't succeed in not writing a novel.   

[Homercles 10205]

Get ready because the narrative has started for both LSU and Alabama to be in the CFP...repeat of 2011 ‘best loss’ incoming.  

[Armybrat 40752]

Well, goddammit. Herman better do something about it next year by pushing LSU’s shit in on their home field next year instead of fumbleassing it away - and then upsetting Bama in the Playoffs.

[oSuJeff97 3435]

15 hours ago, lemonandaturd said:

Which game will be better this weekend?

aggy vs arky

Oklahoma State vs. Kansas State 

OU vs Texas Tech.  

I've got Okie Lite vs. KState.  

 

Good call.  Our games with K-State seem to be razor thin, every damn year, no matter how good either team is.  5 of our last 7 games with then have been decided by less than a TD.

[Machinator 32098]

Brady Quinn thinks the SEC will send 3 teams.

 

[Scholz 11937]

Can't stomach the SEC members sucking each other off.  It's gross and pitiful.  My God.

Also don't like the ranking manipulations that conference dishonestly participates in annually:

• Only play 8 conference games
• Everyone plays 3 complete patsies every year (including FCS)
• All scheduling 1 of these patsies in the most pathetic November weekend imaginable to get a leg up when rankings are being solidified for post season
• VERY rarely scheduling the good West and East conference teams vs each other
• All culminating in everyone's rankings being artificially inflated which helps everyone else's rankings when they play via a feedback loop
• Oh and the cherrypicking of bowl game opponents.  Cowards.

[Valmy77 13123]

On 9/25/2019 at 12:17 AM, Gatorubet said:

Nebraska was your Bama in the mid-90s, carrying the conference water 3 times.  And you and Okie had one each, 5 years apart (2000 & 2005).     The SEC had 7 in a row via four teams.   That is not even close to similar ownage of the sport.    It is not as relevant now, for sure, but it was impressive as hell  in the mid-2000s

As to the bullshit being said, there was little or no ESPN or cable or internet to push the corporate narrative like we have now.   That absence of chest thumping was not due to the inherent modesty of the Nebraska, Texas and Oklahoma programs.           

Yeah it was really impressive back in 2010. But Bama has dominated with only a little trouble since then. One school dominating like that is hardly a mark of a great conference.

And again I have great respect for many of the SEC schools and it is nothing against them. But it gets really tiring when we have a whole country who loves College Football and for really no reason they are all treated as an afterthought because one group of 14 schools has been pre-crowned every year. Only a small handful of SEC schools deserve that type of recognition.

Edited September 26, 2019 by Valmy77